Germany was unable to deliver the promised Gepard 1A2 self-propelled anti-aircraft guns to Ukraine

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Ukraine was left without self-propelled anti-aircraft guns Gepard 1A2, decommissioned by the Bundeswehr more than 20 years ago. According to Welt, Berlin was never able to supply anti-aircraft guns to the Ukrainian army.

The German publication, citing a source in Kyiv, reported that the Ukrainian army did not receive the Gepard 1A2 self-propelled anti-aircraft guns promised by Germany, which have been talked about so much lately. Although the delivery itself was announced back in mid-April, and German Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht even announced it had almost taken place, in fact, all the installations remained in the warehouses of the manufacturing company Krauss-Maffei Wegmann, where they were stored after decommissioning.



As explained in Kyiv, the Germans failed to find the required amount of ammunition for Oerlikon GDF automatic guns, and the existing stock of 23 shells for all installations is not enough for one battle. In general, Berlin has 30 Gepard 1A2 ZSUs and a great desire to transfer all this to Ukraine, but there is no ammunition that is produced in Switzerland. And according to Swiss laws, the supply of weapons, etc. is prohibited. to countries in which hostilities are taking place.

As already reported, the Gepard 1A2 self-propelled gun is equipped with 35-mm Oerlikon GDF automatic cannons for a 35x228 mm projectile, which is produced in Switzerland. There was information that the FRG allegedly agreed with Brazil on the supply of 300 thousand shells to its ZSU, and is also negotiating with Qatar and Jordan for another 150 thousand, but judging by the developing events, these are only rumors. Although everything can be true. But on the other hand, even this amount of ammunition will not save the situation. For the effective use of installations, it is necessary to have a constant source of replenishment of ammunition, and not a one-time one.

As previously reported, the Gepard 1A2 ZSU has a firing range of up to 5 km, and in height - up to 4 km, the radar detects targets at a distance of up to 18 km. At the same time, the installation does not have the ability to deal with modern air threats, and therefore was withdrawn from service.
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  1. +4
    6 May 2022 07: 27
    Ukraine was left without Gepard 1A2 self-propelled anti-aircraft guns, decommissioned by the Bundeswehr more than 20 years ago.
    Even such junk Nemetchyna is not eager to supply ...
    Well, they would have driven, but there are no longer German problems with the BC.
    First of all, it's beautiful!
    1. +3
      6 May 2022 07: 36
      So, probably, Rheinmetall itself needs metal. laughing
    2. +9
      6 May 2022 07: 38
      Of course it's beautiful. For Kubinka and all sorts of patriot parks, it’s easier for us to take such equipment without ammunition! laughing
      1. 0
        6 May 2022 07: 41
        For Kubinka, if I don’t confuse the deactivated position ...
        1. +1
          6 May 2022 09: 06
          Well, let them deactivate it, I would look at such a miracle with pleasure. About 7 years ago, for example, my son sat behind the wheel of a tiger, so memories for a lifetime, and for me, a healthy forehead, it was terribly interesting. and to feel even the enemy is cool.
    3. +2
      6 May 2022 07: 50
      Moreover, problems with BC will not be in Ukraine, but in Africa, where this rubbish is hoch .. Ukrainians will immediately drive
      1. 0
        6 May 2022 08: 13
        Well, they won’t drive them right away, so for no reason, they’ll burn out - it will be necessary to shoot from them for the sake of appearance, then show a couple of lined ones and that’s it - Russia "destroyed" the delivered equipment - you can sell it to Africans. Or do you think that the people of Wuhan will not even keep quiet? Well, it will be completely impudent - they can either stop supplying or make them share, unfasten.
    4. 0
      6 May 2022 09: 07
      There is such a thought, but is it a problem to rivet new ammunition in Germany? Where did the German military-industrial complex go?
      1. 0
        6 May 2022 09: 10
        We see a problem. Since everything is out of production. Re-launch specifically for Wuhaniya? Probably not very beneficial. Nah, I think the Germans don't like Wuhania that much.
        1. 0
          6 May 2022 09: 35
          I looked, a 35-mm projectile is used there, I don’t know, but are these only on them or are they outdated?
      2. 0
        6 May 2022 10: 16
        Quote: Valentina Salenko
        There is such a thought, but is it a problem to rivet new ammunition in Germany? Where did the German military-industrial complex go?

        Have you seen their defense ministers? One is better and smarter and quicker than the other.
        1. 0
          6 May 2022 10: 31
          This is exactly laughing one gynecologist, the other I don’t remember, and the third one is the same.
      3. 0
        6 May 2022 14: 03
        There are not enough energy resources for what is needed, it is necessary to refuse oil, there is tension with metals of all kinds, the ambassador is teasing ....
  2. +1
    6 May 2022 07: 27
    As explained in Kyiv, the Germans failed to find the required amount of ammunition

    ***
    They didn't stock up on ammunition...
    ***
    1. 0
      6 May 2022 08: 06
      As explained in Kyiv, the Germans failed to find the required amount of ammunition for Oerlikon GDF automatic guns, and the existing stock of 23 shells for all installations is not enough for one battle.

      And does it matter to them? No. EU one horseradish shakes off almost one illiquid asset for decoration. The main thing is to check the box and report, wagging your tail, to the Master behind the Big Puddle.
  3. +4
    6 May 2022 07: 29
    It's okay, they will teach the Wuhan operators of these installations to shout menacingly: Bang-bang, natyurlih hit! Win, lads!!
    1. 0
      6 May 2022 08: 29
      Wuhan (and according to the West, it was in Wuhan that the coronavirus broke free) - are you talking about China, or what? I do not understand.
      1. +1
        6 May 2022 08: 31
        it's a meme. Pelosi called Ukraine Wuhania and Biden called Ukrainians Iranians.
        So the meme was born - Wuhan Iranians = Ukrainians (Supporting Zelensky and the Nazis).
  4. +1
    6 May 2022 07: 34
    The radar detects targets at ranges up to 18 km.

    Let her not shoot. Or is the radar also not working? Then unscrew her tower and put something else.
    So they don't give it...
    1. +2
      6 May 2022 07: 40
      If you remove the tower, then after all, a mobile toilet like a cesspool will turn out! We need weight at the front.
      1. +1
        6 May 2022 07: 42
        Fuck them with a mobile toilet - let them do it in their pants.
      2. -1
        6 May 2022 07: 54
        Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
        it's a mobile toilet

        It won't work, you can't warm it request
      3. +1
        6 May 2022 09: 08
        Reminds me of a joke about what is most important in a tank laughing
    2. -2
      6 May 2022 07: 53
      Quote: Kerensky
      and put something else.

      Maxim machine gun lol
      1. +2
        6 May 2022 08: 11
        And what, a quad installation from Maxims is powerful. laughing
        1. -2
          6 May 2022 08: 51
          Quote: Nexcom
          And what, a quad installation from Maxims is powerful

          And creative laughing
          1. 0
            6 May 2022 08: 56
            And then! The main sight is more hippy to put. laughing
            And paint. Screw the calculator in the form of a ballistic calculator. lol
            And then they call everyone the new Wuhan modernization.
        2. 0
          6 May 2022 09: 10
          Well, in fact, if a bunch of cartridges and water are damn good as bunker equipment, a maxim can steer, it's hard to carry it around.
          1. 0
            6 May 2022 09: 13
            Nothing, let them drag it - it will do them good.
  5. +3
    6 May 2022 07: 35
    Dryunya "liver sausage" dashed off a new list, enough to regale with scrap metal, I want a modern one! Otherwise I'll call it differently!
    1. +1
      6 May 2022 07: 38
      In the Swiss commune of Romont, police officers found 500 kilograms of cocaine hidden in coffee bags at the Nespress factory. This was reported by the law enforcement agencies of their canton of Friborg.

      Experts have already analyzed and found out that this is cocaine, the purity of which is about 80%.

      They prepared it for Ukhaniya - for Zelya and his team.
      1. -1
        6 May 2022 07: 55
        Quote: Nexcom
        They prepared it for Ukhaniya - for Zelya and his team

        Well, he has an appetite. belay lol
        1. +1
          6 May 2022 07: 58
          What is Zee left to do? Sniff and beg for money, beg and sniff.
          Again - he is clearly not in one "blowing", you have to share.
          Otherwise, how to explain the enchanting reports about the "victories" of Ukhaniya in the fight against Russia?
          1. -1
            6 May 2022 08: 06
            Quote: Nexcom
            have to share.

            Too many freeloaders
            1. +1
              6 May 2022 08: 07
              These are not freeloaders, but comrades-in-arms. Sing along our way. Ze is nobody without them. So he has to keep them. Otherwise, they will run away.
              1. 0
                6 May 2022 08: 54
                Quote: Nexcom
                These are not freeloaders, but comrades-in-arms.

                Then accomplices
                1. 0
                  6 May 2022 08: 57
                  Oh right! You, Sergey, were able to pick up a more accurate word. good
                  Indeed, these are accomplices in his dirty deeds.
  6. +1
    6 May 2022 07: 38
    For those who are interested, watch on YouTube the video of the exit of the 1st Vinitsa rifle battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, I think 73 brigades. The point is that the officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine abandoned their subordinates. The bulletproof vests supplied by Western countries fall apart on the go. "vaunted" help from the West.
    1. +2
      6 May 2022 07: 39
      They sniff, prick and everything will be forgotten, and "life will get better."
      1. 0
        6 May 2022 10: 02
        Yes, this is just not the case, they are quite adequate and, what is important, they finally began to understand who and how they have them.
        1. -1
          6 May 2022 10: 04
          So LDNR members constantly find strange unmarked pills, used syringes in the places of the former deployment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions. Throw something on camera? Or did all the members of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the National Battalion suddenly fall ill with SARS? Maybe they have depression?
      2. 0
        6 May 2022 10: 08
        There is a video of an interrogation of a soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, he says "there are a lot of javelins, but no one in our unit could use them."
    2. -1
      6 May 2022 07: 57
      Quote: Mikhail Maslov
      Here it is the "vaunted" help of the West.

      Well, the most important thing is to report to the freelancers that they helped
  7. +1
    6 May 2022 07: 42
    And according to Swiss laws, the supply of weapons, etc. is prohibited. to countries in which hostilities are taking place.
    . interesnye guys, the Swiss .... against the mainstream across the risk to go???
    1. +1
      6 May 2022 07: 53
      Quote: rocket757
      And according to Swiss laws, the supply of weapons, etc. is prohibited. to countries in which hostilities are taking place.
      . interesnye guys, the Swiss .... against the mainstream across the risk to go???

      They just trade. The Germans are greedy, they want to buy cheaper. Here the Swiss are turning their heads - like it’s impossible, we can’t do anything, the law is like that.
      1. +2
        6 May 2022 08: 45
        Option ... we'll see.
    2. -1
      6 May 2022 07: 58
      Quote: rocket757
      against the mainstream risk going across???

      Forced to change the law
      1. +3
        6 May 2022 08: 04
        Why change the law? Gather together, discuss and adopt an amendment-proviso to the law such as "in an exceptional situation (direct military threat) to protect democracy and freedom - it is possible." And ffse. Yes
        1. -1
          6 May 2022 08: 07
          Quote: Nexcom
          Gather together with all the hamuz, discuss and adopt an amendment-provider to the law

          or like this
      2. +2
        6 May 2022 08: 48
        Times like these, anything can happen.
        1. -2
          6 May 2022 08: 52
          Quote: rocket757
          Times like these, anything can happen.

          Moreover, the outskirts are unpredictable
  8. +2
    6 May 2022 07: 51
    The Ukrainian army did not receive the Gepard 1A2 self-propelled anti-aircraft guns promised by Germany, which have been talked about so much lately.

    Why supply? Here Biden and Scholz have already agreed that Germany and the United States will not recognize the change in the borders of Ukraine. But at that moment they apparently did not remember about Poland and Co.! But this is an interesting call.
  9. 0
    6 May 2022 07: 53
    Do they have ammunition for the same Leopards-1? Or to other scrap metal, taken out of service N years ago.
  10. +5
    6 May 2022 07: 56
    Ah .... well, yes ....

    wassat
  11. +4
    6 May 2022 08: 17
    They answered for the "liver sausage". bully
  12. +4
    6 May 2022 08: 29
    This is like the answer of the slug Scholz, for the fact that his ukrotyrki dipped their muzzles in the shit. It won’t help anymore, I signed up to be a pindo .. which pad, to absorb ukroderma, now it’s like a pad and will have an attitude, Merkel, the women, had more courage, independence, will and dignity than this slug.
  13. +1
    6 May 2022 09: 03
    It was smooth on paper, but forgot about the ravines, my applause laughing
  14. +1
    6 May 2022 09: 20
    Germany was unable to deliver the promised Gepard 1A2 self-propelled anti-aircraft guns to Ukraine

    A trifle, but nice. Soon Europe will run out of steam and supplies will be reduced.
  15. 0
    6 May 2022 10: 03
    Well then, at least let's have sausage!Sholtsevskaya, and more insulting to!
  16. 0
    6 May 2022 10: 28
    In general, Berlin has 30 Gepard 1A2 ZSUs and a great desire to transfer all this to Ukraine, but there is no ammunition, which are made in Switzerland. And according to Swiss laws, the supply of weapons, etc. is prohibited. to countries in which hostilities are taking place.

    the Gepard 1A2 self-propelled gun is equipped with 35 mm Oerlikon GDF automatic cannons for a 35x228 mm projectile, which is produced in Switzerland.

    Either our "propaganda" is wishful thinking, or the Germans have an extremely stupid excuse.
    35x228 for KDB and KDC machines is produced by at least 2 more manufacturers: Norwegian-Finnish Nammo and South Koreans (I don’t remember the name of the manufacturer). But really manufacturers, I think more, just too lazy to look.
    1. +1
      6 May 2022 11: 53
      They simply "do not want to" - "Oerlikon" has long been part of the Rheinmetall concern.
  17. 0
    6 May 2022 19: 45
    And why the hell has the manufacturing company been keeping this junk for more than 20 years?
  18. IVZ
    +1
    6 May 2022 22: 41
    That's how you call someone a sausage, and he has grenades of the wrong system.