Kyiv has very big problems with the "guerrilla war"

Yuri Podolyaka

Yesterday, and even more so today, there are reports that the so-called therodefense of Kherson and the region, which hid in the caches, are being heavily thinned out. And from this we can come to the conclusion that the information about the leaks of the lists of "partisans" did fall "into the tenacious paws of the KGB."

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[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

Kyiv has very big problems with the "guerrilla war"

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- One Ukrainian is a Ukrainian!
- Two Ukrainians - a partisan detachment!
- And three Ukrainians - a partisan detachment with a traitor! ...
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[Finches]

Every day I clearly understand that it is necessary to go not to Kyiv, but to Lviv - Ukraine, as there should be no state! Not in any form and in any way!

[Shurik70]

For the report before the customer the report is necessary.
Since the CIA, and not Kyiv, was the customer of the "underground", the most complete report was prepared.
And if these lists hit the "KGB" - this is great news.

[EXPrompt]

It was clear at the very beginning of the war that Lvov should be taken.
The question is not this.
The question is how to divide Ukraine and how to manage it after. It would be a tragic mistake to give power in any fragment of the former Ukraine to the local elites, even if they really are loyal to the Russian Federation or seem to be loyal today.
In my opinion, the main thing is that Ukraine has successfully proved over the 31 years of its existence that they cannot rule by themselves, and they choose such ghouls for the throne ... what a wonder.
No one, even such a political Byzantine as Putin, can calculate what will happen to their power in 20-30-50 years and what kind of scum they will pick up if they leave the state and such a right as free elections.

So the Hong Kong option, or the governor general appointed from the Kremlin .. Most likely there will be one of these. Although Putin clearly has not yet outlined a political position.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: EXPrompt

The question is how to divide Ukraine and how to manage it after. It would be a tragic mistake to give power in any fragment of the former Ukraine to the local elites, even if they really are loyal to the Russian Federation or seem to be loyal today.

In each city, put your own "crisis manager" with the team, otherwise Bandera's roots will definitely wake up over time.

[Igor Ivanov_4]

I beg of you! did you serve in the army? did they drop in on your part of the check from the headquarters? in our unit, there was an Uzbek who worked as a civilian in a restaurant, the officer’s canteen turned into a branch of the Eliseevsky restaurant for three days, and the inspector wiped a mean tear when he left.

[Anyuta Glorious]

About Lvov. The city was founded by the RUSSIAN prince of Galicia, this prince is one of the founders of Russia on the famous monument "1000th anniversary of RUSSIA", he successfully beat both the Poles and the Hungarians. To surrender his city to neo-Nazis, drug addicts is an outrage against the prince, over the entire history of Russia.
Therefore, I agree with you willingly. Russian must return to Russia.

[crack]

don't forget who lives there now. Neither Stalin nor Khrushchev managed to clean them out. And the current government even more so.
They need to be left alone. boil themselves in their own cauldron. Or in Polish which is the same thing.

[Alex777]

Quote: crack

Neither Stalin nor Khrushchev managed to clean them out.

I am not a supporter of Stalin, at all, but the Bandera movement
under him they defeated, and the survivors were imprisoned for a long time.
And Khrushchev, after the visit of Chancellor Adenauer in 1955, all of them
amnestied! He didn't "fail". He did not try to "clean out" Bandera.
What did he do later, developing Ukrainian schools and giving Crimea,
you know without me.

[crack]

On April 14, 1960, in the Ternopil region, there was the last battle in which the last Bandera people were destroyed. Khrushchev even used chemical weapons, but all this, as we see, did not eradicate them.

[Common sense]

It was immediately clear. If you already got involved, then you need to clean it to the end. Half measures won't help here...
And for this, it will be necessary to declare mobilization and uncork storage bases.

[Igor Ivanov_4]

what is really missing now is Pavel Anatolyevich Sudoplatov.

[Two]

It is a pity that not to Warsaw! Psheks climbed under the lid, which will be covered soon ...

[paul3390]

- And three Ukrainians - a partisan detachment with a traitor! ...

Even the old man Chernovol used to say that there was a mistake in the joke - the traitor in the detachment was by no means alone ... And he knew his relatives as flaky ...

[Egoza]

[quote=paul3390]
Old man Chernovol was a smart nationalist. He immediately said that Ukraine needed a Federation. Well, Kiev had to put its paw on ALL profits, and with a federal structure, "too much" would remain in place. It was for this opinion that he was killed, they set up an accident like the Belarusian one with Masherov.

[Basarev]

This is also true for Russia, which is a federation only in name.

[Finches]

Why are you still free???

[Basarev]

It was understood that Russia also needed real federalization, with unlimited local powers and the largest possible share of deductions to the local budget. Look at the Swedish communes - I see such formations as true subjects of the federation, others are not needed.

[Finches]

Russia, not Liechtenstein, such a number will not work, but will only lead to disintegration! On the contrary, it is necessary to tighten the vertical of power to a dictatorship!

[Basarev]

Dictatorship in Russia is destructive. It is too dangerous when everything in the country depends on one person, not only subject to all sorts of twists, but also a mortal. We all know what a squabble immediately begins after the departure of the next king. In essence, Russia has not yet created a normal system of transfer of power.

[Finches]

Everything is fine! History to the rescue!

[crack]

As I understand it, it warms your soul when there is an iron curtain in the country, no dissent - everyone slams the parties and the general secu, Complete caesura, the destruction of alien classes (clergy, nobility, merchants, officers). Resettlement of entire peoples (Chechens, Ingush, Tatars, Kalmyks, Koreans, etc.) 25 years for dissent. Threes without a trial. Dekulakization and expulsion of peasants. Total surveillance and denunciations.
Do you prefer North Korea or Kampuchea?
Or does it apply only to the vertical?

[Finches]

I don't like liberalism!

[crack]

liberalism is not gays and juvenile justice. This is just a philosophical and socio-political trend that proclaims the inviolability of the rights and freedoms of man and citizen, transparency, election and change of power.
And this is what is written in the constitution of the Russian Federation
the Constitution of the Russian Federation. Article 29
1. Everyone is guaranteed freedom of thought and speech.
3. No one can be forced to express or reject their opinions and beliefs.
4. Everyone has the right to freely seek, receive, transmit, produce and distribute information in any legal way.
5. Freedom of the media is guaranteed. Censorship is prohibited.

[Two]

Just about that time I was going to the native province, to Khmelnitsky, so I watched the whole process! Such was the ambience! Funeral of Chernenko K.U. even next to NE stood!

[kin]

Keep your tongue behind your teeth.

[Vovavvs]

During the Second World War, the younger brother of my grandfather was the commander of the RDO in the Pervomaisky district of the Odessa region. In 1944, a local traitor lured into a German ambush

[Private SA]

Kovpaka S.A. with his raids on some territories, we are now clearly not enough.

[your vsr 66-67]

Ukroreich has always been famous for traitors!

[paul3390]

When, under Alexei the Quietest, the Boyar Duma discussed the issue of whether or not Khmelnitsky's proposal should be accepted, many were against it. They were motivated by the fact that the Cherkasy, as the Cossacks were then called, are not faithful people, they do not keep their word, they will betray at any moment .. As they looked into the water. Nothing has changed in 300 years.

[Egoza]

Quote: paul3390

They were motivated by the fact that the Cherkasy, as the Cossacks were then called, are not faithful people, they do not keep their word, they will betray at any moment .. As they looked into the water. Nothing has changed in 300 years.

That's not necessary! You forgot about the SOVIET soldiers and partisans of Ukraine.
It's just that the best are always ahead, and all the scum is hiding in order to crawl out later.

[Egoza]

I admit that many went to the defense, if only they didn’t rake into the army. Stand at the checkpoint, check the car, but certainly not get involved in a guerrilla war. There are, of course, those who take advantage of the moment to "officially" rob, there are also those who are saturated with Nazi frenzy. But all the same, the number of "partisan detachments" will be 50 percent less than that expected in Kyiv.

[Two]

The number will drop sharply, in direct proportion to the number of publicly "impaired partisans".

[your1970]

Well, in general, it would be strange - if this had not happened. This has already happened many times in history - if there are lists of people loyal to the government - these lists can fall into any hands, including those hostile to this government.
So it was in many countries - Ukraine is not a pioneer.
There will always be those who want to receive preferences from the new government

[Dart2027]

Yes, there are some lists - in our time everything is laid out on social networks and stored on phones. As Kochergin joked, a person collects dirt on himself.

[EXPrompt]

It was, was not, intent on a terrorist attack (s), and the drillers neatly took Podolyaka under the hood.
I would also strongly check Comrade Yura Marsupial for what he really did in 14-15 in detail and small details ..
The leaders of the Maidans-there are no former.

[riwas]

Kyiv has very big problems with the "guerrilla war"

There is no need to feel sorry for such bandits, otherwise it will backfire in the future, as happened with the unfinished Bandera people.

[Scientist_]

"one can come to the conclusion that the information about the leaked lists of "partisans" did fall into the tenacious clutches of the KGB." These partisans themselves have long been lit up. All Bandera people have exposed themselves in social networks. They did not at all hide their participation in Nazi organizations, nor their Nazi views, nor their crimes. They flaunted it all. Followed for 8 years. So finding them is not difficult.

[steelmaker]

Yes, we have already been told all this, and also that they will be greeted with flowers. Podolyako is already running ahead of the locomotive. Putin, too, seems to have blown in his ears what he wanted to hear. That's a sopatka and got - thousands of dead and hundreds of prisoners. Therefore, we will rejoice when we really control the liberated territories and do not run away.

[naidas]

Sergei Bondar, a Nazi of the C14 group and a militant of the special forces "Harpoon" of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, published about Ukrainian partisans (terodefense) on his Facebook, PolitNavigator correspondent reports:
-You keep killing your own. Yesterday they screwed up again. And they pissed off the boys. Which one of you will apologize to them? How many reconnaissance groups did you shoot for ...
-Who will apologize to the relatives of Ruslan Sergiyan, whom your frightened double-barreled shotguns killed? Who will apologize to the relatives of the ensign of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, whom you burned alive in the Urals on International Square?
-Even more from your frightened misinformation. "DRG in Vasilkov, 14 corpses" - their own. “All night fighting on Beresteyskaya” - their own. "DRG captured one of the district administrations of Kyiv" - the battle of the defense against special forces, machine guns and grenade launchers, corpses and wounded on both sides.

They flunked one of the heads of the SBU on your tip. Several groups of special forces regiments did not lie down from the enemies, but they came under fire from the frightened "terodefense".
- Yes, you even manage to shoot down our helicopters. Nobody counts drones anymore.

https://peremogi.livejournal.com/60612104.html

[steelmaker]

, "But they were shot by a frightened "terodefense.""
It only says that they are ready to fight! Even with SWAT!

[naidas]

they will fight where there is no power. Where there is no power, the power of the defense. And this is the problem of the partisan movement where there is no leading center, where every entrance has power and sneezed at everyone else.

[Sanche]

Quote: Finches

Ukraine, as a state, should not exist! Not in any form and in any way!

And what about the tens of thousands of dead in this case?

[NetKeys]

Quote: Basarev

Dictatorship in Russia is destructive. It is too dangerous when everything in the country depends on one person, not only subject to all sorts of twists, but also a mortal.

Pick up another form of autocracy, and limit it. Not a single country on the ball has escaped autocracy as the most effective means of government at certain historical stages. Only in the fattest and calmest times did the state pass into the role of a "sleeping watchman." But prosperity ALWAYS quickly ended.
There is no ideal form of government. And never will. Isthmat and diamat to help. And in Russia, with its history and territory, the so-called "democracy" is contraindicated.
For reference: democracy on the planet happened once and never happened again. In Greece. And will never happen again.

[Emergency]

To hell with them. As long as it's not with us.

[realist]

"tenacious paws of the KGB" - very funny, yes there was a time when they had a full staff and they really worked well, there were agents and analytics and outdoor advertising, but today the states are greatly reduced and the opportunities are not the same ...

[Wasiliy kostrow]

They fucked up the FSB (eshnik) in a beer bar and what was he doing there?

[Rage66]

Quote: Starover_Z

Quote: EXPrompt

The question is how to divide Ukraine and how to manage it after. It would be a tragic mistake to give power in any fragment of the former Ukraine to the local elites, even if they really are loyal to the Russian Federation or seem to be loyal today.

In each city, put your own "crisis manager" with the team, otherwise Bandera's roots will definitely wake up over time.

So the "team" should be no less than a regiment .. You can't get enough regiments for each city.