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Germany says G7 countries will not pay for Russian gas in rubles

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Germany says G7 countries will not pay for Russian gas in rubles

German Vice Chancellor Robert Habek said that the GXNUMX countries would not comply with Moscow's demand regarding payment for gas supplied in rubles.


Western leaders motivate their decision by the fact that a different currency is indicated in the existing agreements. Consequently, by demanding to pay for raw materials in rubles, Russia violates the terms of the contracts.

Khabek added that by taking such measures, President Vladimir Putin, apparently, was trying to break the unity in the GXNUMX. However, according to the German Minister for Economic Affairs and Climate Protection, the Russian leader will not be able to implement this plan.

Recall that on March 23, Vladimir Putin instructed to transfer payments for gas for countries unfriendly to Russia into rubles. Today, a list of the above instructions was published on the Kremlin's website. In particular, it states that the innovations relate to both new and existing contracts of Gazprom.

While claiming violations of treaties, the West apparently forgot how they completely illegally and unilaterally froze our gold and foreign exchange reserves, assets and real estate. By and large, sanctions were imposed against Russia, designed to completely isolate our country on the world stage. But it doesn't come out.

So who actually violates partnership agreements?

However, it is unlikely that the G7 countries, like other states unfriendly to us, will be able to “get out” of the current situation by referring to the terms of the contract.

Just today, Dmitry Peskov, press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation, said that the Kremlin has not yet decided what exactly will be done with countries that have refused to pay for gas in rubles. At the same time, he assured that Russia would definitely not supply “blue fuel” to anyone for free, and therefore the likelihood of simply closing off supplies to them increases.

Against this backdrop, the US currency accelerated its decline against the ruble. At the moment, trading is at levels below 92 rubles per US dollar.
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  1. gansales
    gansales 28 March 2022 17: 23
    +59
    Germany says G7 countries will not pay for Russian gas in rubles

    Well, the flag is in the hands of the Amer Fritz!
    Do you think Russia is upset? We have a lot of things that have not yet been gasified in the country!
    Won China asks to increase supplies !!!!
    1. NIKN
      NIKN 28 March 2022 17: 24
      +26
      G7 countries will not pay for Russian gas in rubles
      Well, the G20 countries will get more. In general, they will scream and will not go anywhere. They have a protocol for such interaction with Russia, how can disciplined Europe be without a protocol?
      1. The black
        The black 28 March 2022 17: 29
        +67
        Well, that's their right, so to speak. laughing ..... the main thing for our leadership is to show firmness. It is said for rubles - it means for rubles ....
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 28 March 2022 17: 32
          +37
          Quote: Black
          Well, that's their right, so to speak. laughing ..... the main thing for our leadership is to show firmness. It is said for rubles - it means for rubles ....

          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 28 March 2022 17: 33
            +29
            Khabek added that by taking such measures, President Vladimir Putin, apparently, was trying to disrupt the unity of the GXNUMX.

            Yes, Russia doesn't give a damn about your "unity" or "non-unity" in the "Group of Seven", which has become overwhelmed by permissiveness against Russia!
            Russia has its own SOVEREIGN national interests in maintaining its national security of Russia in the world, with which this brazen "Group of Seven" is obliged to reckon with parity!
            1. NIKN
              NIKN 28 March 2022 17: 35
              +20
              Quote: Tatiana
              the outrageous "Group of Seven" is obliged to reckon with parity!

              the outrageous "Group of Seven" will soon be called in the new world a group of 7 outcasts from civilized society. If they don't make up their mind.
            2. gansales
              gansales 28 March 2022 17: 43
              +34
              Quote: Tatiana
              Khabek added that by taking such measures, President Vladimir Putin, apparently, was trying to disrupt the unity of the GXNUMX.

              Yes, Russia does not care about your unity or not unity in the "Group of Seven" that has grown up against Russia!
              Russia has its own interests in respect of its national security of Russia, with which this brazen "Group of Seven" is obliged to reckon with parity!

              Everything is just beginning Tatyana! These statements and pieces of paper are not worth green .. They declare to the whole World, and they themselves are already starting to buy Rubles quietly .. Double standards!
              Soon sowing and fertilizers will need supplies .. And who supplies them to Europe?
              Russia has the main food security at the level ..
              Well, chips, etc. , China is already supplying us, and we ourselves can produce .. We will survive, but we will insert VERY powerfully in the West!
              Give them Vladimir Vladimirovich! Russia with you
              1. abrakadabre
                abrakadabre 28 March 2022 18: 20
                +25
                They declare to the whole world, and they themselves are already starting to buy rubles for the quiet ...
                And here it is necessary to announce each payment publicly. In the form: "Today Germany paid for gas for rubles for <such and such> period" wassat And post it on the website. And voice over RT.
                To no "helped save face." On the contrary, as much as possible with the loss of face.
              2. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 28 March 2022 22: 02
                +7
                Quote from gansales
                Soon sowing and fertilizers will need supplies .. And who supplies them to Europe?

                They say that Old Man has a lot of fertilizers.
                But there will be laughter if he demands Belarusian rubles! Or Russian.
                1. Prisoner
                  Prisoner 29 March 2022 08: 03
                  +3
                  And he will require. It won't rust after it.
            3. Alien From
              Alien From 28 March 2022 17: 54
              +27
              Let's see what life-giving gas does hi
              1. fif21
                fif21 28 March 2022 18: 15
                +11
                Quote: Alien From
                Let's see what life-giving gas does

                The dollar today fell below 90 rubles! That's what ruble gas does! hi
                1. Castro Ruiz
                  Castro Ruiz 28 March 2022 19: 37
                  0
                  More like a gas rub.
            4. Clear
              Clear 28 March 2022 17: 55
              +27
              Quote: Tatiana
              with which this brazen "Group of Seven" is obliged to reckon with parity!

              Indeed, brats. They want to pay for gas with dollar zeros in computers, which are immediately blocked.
          2. The black
            The black 28 March 2022 17: 39
            +2
            NIKNN (Nikolai), laughing good
        2. Alien From
          Alien From 28 March 2022 17: 39
          +25
          There is no gas, but you hold on ......
          1. Clear
            Clear 28 March 2022 17: 52
            +10
            Quote: Alien From
            There is no gas, but you hold on ......

            ... and all the best to you!
            1. Alien From
              Alien From 28 March 2022 18: 06
              +4
              Do not sneeze dear "partners" hi
        3. fruc
          fruc 28 March 2022 17: 40
          +10
          ...... the G7 countries, as well as other states unfriendly to us, are unlikely to succeed.

          Rates go up, don't want to pay, cut off the gas.
          PS and oil, metals, grain too.
          1. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
            Mihaylo Tishayshiy 28 March 2022 19: 02
            +5
            Grain is not supplied to Europe and America, they have enough of their own. Bye. While our fertilizers were supplied. And the gas from which they also made fertilizers. Now the whole world will have to go to the pots and take them out into the fields, they say, it fertilizes the soil well. good
            1. PSih2097
              PSih2097 28 March 2022 19: 07
              +7
              Quote: Mihaylo Tishayshiy
              While our fertilizers were supplied.

              fertilizers in the west jumped 3 times in price ...
            2. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 28 March 2022 22: 05
              +2
              Quote: Mihaylo Tishayshiy
              Now the whole world will have to go to the pots and take them out into the fields, they say, it fertilizes the soil well.

              My wife does a little gardening. He says that it is impossible to fertilize human and pig - it burns the roots. You have to wait 15 years for it to rot.

              So from this side they have an ambush. request
        4. Clear
          Clear 28 March 2022 17: 48
          +11
          Quote: Black
          Well, that's their right, so to speak. laughing ..... the main thing for our leadership is to show firmness. It is said for rubles - it means for rubles ....

          The stakes in the Cold War are rising.
          At the same time, Russia has nowhere to retreat.
        5. fruc
          fruc 28 March 2022 19: 00
          +9
          I want to see the team live on April 1.04.2022, XNUMX Putin - Miller: - Tighten the valve! hi
        6. musketon64
          musketon64 28 March 2022 19: 36
          +12
          Beryozka stores are opening in Germany, where everything is available. Even vegetable oil, flour, pasta, rice. They are not available to ordinary Germans, as trade in THEM takes place for rubles. laughing
        7. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 28 March 2022 19: 47
          +3
          Quote: Black
          ..... the main thing for our leadership is to show firmness. It is said for rubles - it means for rubles ....
          So.
          Yes, and it would be time to stop calling all this riffraff, which is waging an information and economic war with us, and supplying our enemies with weapons, "partners."
        8. Fisherman
          Fisherman 28 March 2022 19: 49
          +4
          Miller has ALREADY said that we will no longer lend and will only sell for rubles. Putin's order! Hardly anyone dares. The exception is only friends like Serbia!
        9. hohohol
          hohohol 28 March 2022 21: 30
          +2
          ..... the main thing for our leadership is to show firmness

          Then this matter should be transferred to the control of any of our housing and communal services, at hour X, the gas burners of the malicious non-payers begin to slowly go out. It's business, it's a common thing, and the fact that Europe's gas will turn off some kind of ZHKO will quickly bring down the arrogance of arrogant slickers and put them into a stupor for a long time.
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      3. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 28 March 2022 17: 37
        +12
        Quote: NIKNN
        G7 countries will not pay for Russian gas in rubles
        Well, the G20 countries will get more. In general, they will scream and will not go anywhere. They have a protocol for such interaction with Russia, how can disciplined Europe be without a protocol?

        And if they do not buy, we will turn off the gas. Since April 1, why pull.
        1. The black
          The black 28 March 2022 17: 42
          +9
          And if they do not buy, we will turn off the gas. Since April 1, why pull.
          well, then the SPORTLOTO tickets should be added to the load wassat
        2. NIKN
          NIKN 28 March 2022 17: 44
          +8
          Quote: SKVichyakow

          And if they do not buy, we will turn off the gas. From April 1, why pull

          Well, on April 1, for anyone, you should at least joke, let them shudder on the day of laughter, arrogance will fly off. laughing
        3. Tavi
          Tavi 28 March 2022 18: 08
          +6
          Since April 1, why pull.

          And it won't be an April 1st joke...
      4. zloybond
        zloybond 28 March 2022 17: 54
        +16
        It is not necessary to deprive them of goods. You just need to kick them into the ruble zone. Every week, a new product is transferred to the ruble. This Geyropstan must be kept in a tough tone, like a herd of sheep, driving into the framework of our worldview, since they decided to declare such a war on us, it is necessary that they understand - IN war as in war. belay belay belay
        On April 1, we transfer gas to the ruble
        On April 7 we transfer oil
        April 14 wheat
        April 21 metals
        April 28 sugar
        and So step by step, tough no sentimentality You can even speed up and several products and goods in one go. Let them hurry up. Are we going to endure patiently? They also found patience for me. The main thing now is that some kind of Nabiulina or Gref should not help them get out. hi
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 28 March 2022 18: 22
          +9
          On April 1, we transfer gas to the ruble
          On April 7 we transfer oil
          April 14 wheat
          April 21 metals
          April 28 sugar
          Correction: wheat and metals will wait a week. On the 7th or 14th, fertilizers must be transferred to ruble payments. To disrupt the preparation of the sowing season.
          1. zloybond
            zloybond 28 March 2022 19: 03
            +2
            Well ... I threw it off at a glance ... there, of course, you can figure out how to make the transition more fun ... There are smart people, they receive awards, medals from the state, let them brainstorm. how to make this issue the most beneficial for Russia! good
        2. Flooding
          Flooding 28 March 2022 18: 49
          +1
          Quote: zloybond
          Every week a new product is transferred to the ruble

          What will you order to do with the currency with which they will pay for rubles?
          I am most interested in the purchase of rubles, the procedure for settlements and the further use of these proceeds.
          1. zloybond
            zloybond 28 March 2022 19: 01
            +3
            what do you mean by command. There is Nabiulina Siluanov ..... I'm not them. lol The president gave them a command not to me hi Let them work. I only suggest not to stop but to increase fellow
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 28 March 2022 19: 08
              +5
              Russia does not need a European currency in the face of sanctions

              let them buy rubles for services and goods
              the sale of rubles is a fundamental point in the scheme for the export of ruble gas
              1. zloybond
                zloybond 28 March 2022 20: 04
                +9
                The equivalent of this can already be established by the state based on needs. The main thing is not to push through our ultimatum with a seal. If we say, as they say, the whole camp refuses to pay in rubles - and we suddenly start looking for a way out for the situation - that's all. Consider they wiped themselves with our ambition. The main thing is not to help them come out clean. Since they are hard on us, let them look for options themselves. Rubles, the equivalent of a commodity, gold-diamonds - it is already necessary to choose what is more profitable for us and not for them. Of course, now everything depends on the patriotism of the leaders responsible for solving the problem. Evriki, in theory, to us before the lamp, we are forbidden to use them. But they need bread now, and oil too, and gas for industry. We need to expand the list of products. They now have a head start - they are oppressed only by gas. If we start putting a load on their heads according to the list of goods and deadlines, then whatever one may say, they will have to change their shoes. Let's give them some slack - not only will they fuck us, they will ridicule us and tear us apart. (well, this is my opinion. You can see it from above).
          2. XiaoTou
            XiaoTou 28 March 2022 20: 38
            +2
            No currency required! Let goods be delivered in exchange for rubles.
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 28 March 2022 17: 24
      +8
      We need to cook more cacti for them! yes
      As Putin said: "Freeze, freeze the wolf's tail!"
    3. Sandor Clegane
      Sandor Clegane 28 March 2022 17: 24
      +3
      Quote from gansales
      Well, the American flag is in your hands!

      no, Russian! no rubles, no gas - no gas - collapse in the EU
      1. Borik
        Borik 28 March 2022 17: 32
        0
        Take payment only in gold, it is always in price, since for this gold we can pay for goods in other countries. And we will print rubles.
        1. surok1
          surok1 28 March 2022 18: 00
          +9
          Printing is inflation. They must put nishtyaks and get rubles for it, and then pay with these rubles for our nishtyaks.
          1. Tavi
            Tavi 28 March 2022 18: 14
            +7
            Nishtyaki to sell to us now for rubles, this still needs to be agreed (with this you can / need to pull it), gas is now needed. In the meantime, they can take a loan from our Central Bank, and the% rate is right there))) 20% Well done Nabiullna.
            1. ANB
              ANB 28 March 2022 18: 36
              +9
              . In the meantime, they can take a loan from our Central Bank, and the% rate is right there right now))) 20%

              Yes, why would it be under 20% then?
              This is the rate at which the Central Bank issues loans to its banks, and not to everyone else.
              Let them take it in a regular bank, like a cash loan. And since it is not secured, and even risky, then under 60-70%.
              For nefig.
              1. Tavi
                Tavi 29 March 2022 12: 13
                +1
                And I think it will not work to change the course. there is no confidence in their currencies, they can freeze, although I think the Central Bank may agree to the Yen.
      2. gansales
        gansales 28 March 2022 17: 50
        +4
        Quote: Sandor Clegane
        Quote from gansales
        Well, the American flag is in your hands!

        no, Russian! no rubles, no gas - no gas - collapse in the EU

        They are shy of the Russian flag and the letter Z too
        There were Fritz and there were cowardly burgers laughing
        Arabs and Turks will soon explain to them how to love their Motherland!
    4. Maz
      Maz 28 March 2022 17: 27
      +9
      Yes, here the plot twists more abruptly than on the territory of the country. We are waiting for an answer, I believe that the answer will be adequate.
    5. Evil 55
      Evil 55 28 March 2022 17: 29
      +13
      And why Russia has been striving for this pan-European viper for 300 years, I don’t understand .. Squabbles, squabbles, slops against each other and eternal attempts to rip off your neighbor .. hi
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 28 March 2022 17: 32
        +2
        April 1, Putin: "You do not want to give the ruble? Oh, you aphid!"
      2. Clear
        Clear 28 March 2022 18: 05
        +8
        Quote: Evil 55
        And why Russia has been striving for this pan-European viper for 300 years, I don’t understand .. Squabbles, squabbles, slops against each other and eternal attempts to rip off your neighbor .. hi

        Not Russia, it always aspired to go there, but pro-government liberals who managed to grab money.
      3. Plate
        Plate 28 March 2022 22: 16
        +2
        And why Russia has been striving for this pan-European viper for 300 years, I don’t understand.

        So for the last 300 years Europe and then the USA have been the center of technical innovation. It is logical to strive to where there is more new technology.
        But now everything is unfolding in such a way that soon there will be more new technology in Asia. And - here are those on! We are starting to turn to Asia.
        What I don't understand is why we ourselves have not yet become the world's center of technical innovation.
    6. Thrifty
      Thrifty 28 March 2022 17: 38
      +10
      The main thing is that the Kremlin "does not give it back" for the "interests of partners"! We decided to take rubles, they don’t want to, let them pump gas from the atmosphere of Jupiter for free !!!
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 28 March 2022 17: 56
        +1
        Blue fuel will be remembered by candlelight))
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 28 March 2022 21: 42
          +3
          Quote: Alien From
          Blue fuel will be remembered by candlelight))
          Candles and torches (budget option) also sell only for RUBLES
          good
    7. Russian
      Russian 28 March 2022 17: 39
      +1
      Only let's say a pipe is brought to the village, but in order to connect it to the house, pay a lot of money, I'm not sure that everyone can find it, plus our price is lower than in Europe for domestic consumption. So there is no way to replace the export. But to turn to Asia - yes. The main thing is that later China should not set conditions for us, otherwise it will remain the only major consumer
    8. Vend
      Vend 28 March 2022 17: 45
      +5
      Quote from gansales
      Germany says G7 countries will not pay for Russian gas in rubles

      Well, the flag is in the hands of the Amer Fritz!
      Do you think Russia is upset? We have a lot of things that have not yet been gasified in the country!
      Won China asks to increase supplies !!!!

      I'm wondering what our answer will be. The fact that the Europeans are lackeys of the United States is understandable, they will bleat, what they will be told. But what move will ours make. This is really interesting.
      1. surok1
        surok1 28 March 2022 18: 04
        +7
        First a dramatic pause, then silently turn on the valve.
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 28 March 2022 18: 25
          +5
          First a dramatic pause, then silently turn on the valve.
          With maximum sound effect and slowly. Kind of rusty in the open position. After all, even in the days of the USSR they did not screw it up.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 28 March 2022 18: 07
        +8
        Quote: Wend
        I'm wondering what our answer will be.

    9. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy 28 March 2022 17: 58
      +14
      In Spain, on the website of the Ministry of Energy: in order to save money, do not wash clean clothes, if the clothes are outwardly clean, but have a smell, we recommend that you do not wash them, but hang them in fresh air for ventilation. away
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 28 March 2022 18: 07
        +4
        Russian pipeline gas does not come to Spain, Algeria and LNG are there ... at the same time
        LNG terminals, most of all in Europe, are located in Spain. Their total capacity exceeds 44 million tons/year (over 60 billion cubic meters/year). However, the capacity of gas pipelines from Spain to Central Europe is insignificant and does not allow for deliveries in volumes that can compensate for the cessation of gas imports from Russia. https://1prime.ru/exclusive/20220206/835993045.html
        and somehow LNG doesn’t really help them now ... although some in Europe hope so much for it
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 28 March 2022 18: 30
          +5
          Only this LNG gas will cost Italy several times more than ours. And if they really refuse to pay gas, they will cut it off and the price tag for 1000 cubic meters will easily break through the ceiling of 4000 and 5000 bucks, and LNG carriers will wind up.
          1. Brturin
            Brturin 28 March 2022 18: 40
            +3
            they will raise the price and leave Asia without LNG, and there are already victims there ... the first of them is Pakistan - from the previous ones - In November and December, Pakistan was left without three contracted LNG cargoes from traders Gunvor and Eni ... In the first month of winter in the country three LNG tankers are due to arrive, but only one will arrive - on a fifteen-year contract from Qatar -. and lastly, international trader Guvnor decided to terminate the contract for the supply of LNG to Pakistan. As a result, in April-June the country will not receive four cargoes of liquefied gas (360 million cubic meters).
            Guvnor has been violating the contract for the supply of LNG to Pakistan since autumn. The trader has not delivered three liquefied gas tankers since November. Also acted when gas prices rose sharply in Europe, and the Italian Eni. She broke the agreement four times. https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2022/03/28/evropa-ostavlyaet-bednye-strany-azii-bez-gaza
            1. cat Rusich
              cat Rusich 28 March 2022 21: 53
              +1
              Quote: BrTurin
              they will raise the price and leave Asia without LNG, and there are already victims there ... the first of them is Pakistan - from the previous ones - In November and December, Pakistan was left without three contracted LNG cargoes from traders Gunvor and Eni ... In the first month of winter in the country three LNG tankers are due to arrive, but only one will arrive - on a fifteen-year contract from Qatar -. and lastly, international trader Guvnor decided to terminate the contract for the supply of LNG to Pakistan. As a result, in April-June the country will not receive four cargoes of liquefied gas (360 million cubic meters).
              Guvnor has been violating the contract for the supply of LNG to Pakistan since autumn. The trader has not delivered three liquefied gas tankers since November. Also acted when gas prices rose sharply in Europe, and the Italian Eni. She broke the agreement four times. https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2022/03/28/evropa-ostavlyaet-bednye-strany-azii-bez-gaza
              Offer LNG from Russia to Pakistan for rubles ...
              They will agree - then liquefy gas from SP-1 and the GTS of Ukraine (you will have to build a plant if necessary) and sell it in the form of LNG to where they agree to pay in rubles.
              yes
              1. Brturin
                Brturin 28 March 2022 23: 35
                +1
                There are plants ... It’s all about Europe, but Gazprom has a controlling 2% + 50 share in the Sakhalin-1 LNG (Shell said it wants to leave Sakhalin, and it has 27,5%, in the current scenario it will be sold to Gazprom , then the share is even higher) - if LNG is for rubles ... then the Japanese are already - https://topwar.ru/193908-raschety-za-gaz-v-rubljah-v-japonii-ne-ponimajut-kak-realizovat- namerenie-rossii.html, there are also Koreans ... if from this plant, then rubles here ... Novatek has already been somehow discussed to press taxes in the European direction, then it will be lucky to Asia, there and besides Pakistan ...
    10. usr01
      usr01 28 March 2022 18: 20
      +2
      Quote from gansales
      Well, the flag is in your hands

      as in the old joke - "the bazaar is big ... walk around .. bargain .." wink
    11. Myths
      Myths 28 March 2022 18: 37
      +3
      So they themselves violated the contract by blocking the ability to use their currency. Turning it essentially into paper. And toilet paper is a little cheaper than gas.
    12. laws70
      laws70 28 March 2022 20: 52
      +2
      And what audacity to refer to contracts after the freezing of our assets and instructions to their companies to stop doing business in Russia?!
  2. lubesky
    lubesky 28 March 2022 17: 23
    +2
    I propose to accept payment from the EU for gas only in grain and gold by the fall of this year!
    1. Alexander X
      Alexander X 28 March 2022 17: 25
      +16
      I propose to accept payment from the EU for gas only in grain and gold by the fall of this year!
      Only goods, technologies and industrial equipment that Russia needs
    2. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 28 March 2022 17: 27
      +8
      Our grain is enough, we don't need them, but gold, that's fine
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 28 March 2022 18: 31
        +13
        Our grain is enough, we don't need them, but gold, that's fine
        You didn't understand the irony. Remember the famine in the Volga region immediately after the civil war? This was largely because the USSR purchased a lot of equipment and other goods for the industrialization and restoration of industry. And the West, on purpose and in an organized manner, began to sell all this only for grain. It was with the intention to deprive the young Soviet state of either industry or population. A lot of grain was required. And overzealous performers in the field raked everything clean from the peasants. Like, we will not just do it, but we will repeatedly over-fulfill the grain order. And this was superimposed by a drought in the Volga region.
        Roughly the same thing happened during this publicized Holodomor in Ukraine. Local Khokhly functionaries robbed the peasants to the bone. Not only food minimum, but also seed material. But the center is still being blamed.
        That's the same comrade and offers to do with Europe. There will be a shortage of grain. And then demand payment for our goods also in grain.
        1. lubesky
          lubesky 28 March 2022 19: 18
          +2
          [quote = abrakadabre] [quote] Our grain is enough, we don't need them, but gold, that's fine [/ quote] You don't understand the irony. Remember the famine in the Volga region immediately after the civil war? This was largely because the USSR purchased a lot of equipment and other goods for the industrialization and restoration of industry. And the West, on purpose and in an organized manner, began to sell all this only for grain. [quote]
          Thanks, colleague. It's nice when someone sees the depth of thought. Naturally, there is little intelligence for this - you need to know history well! wink
        2. hrapon
          hrapon 28 March 2022 21: 58
          +1
          As an option - fertilizers. The idea itself is not devoid of grace and healthy vindictiveness.
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 28 March 2022 23: 36
            0
            As an option - fertilizers.
            Fertilizers are a long game. And I want to eat every day. Given the venality and lack of conscience among the bigwigs, including the grain market, it may well work.
    3. Cananecat
      Cananecat 28 March 2022 17: 30
      +5
      Quote: lubesky
      I propose to accept payment from the EU for gas only in grain and gold by the fall of this year!

      We export grain there ourselves... plus Ukraine has fallen in love with the sowing season this year... now there is no particular panic, it will begin closer to summer, when it becomes clear how much land Ukraine will sow.
      1. Maks winter
        Maks winter 28 March 2022 18: 21
        +2
        Quote: Canecat
        Quote: lubesky
        I propose to accept payment from the EU for gas only in grain and gold by the fall of this year!

        We export grain there ourselves... plus Ukraine has fallen in love with the sowing season this year... now there is no particular panic, it will begin closer to summer, when it becomes clear how much land Ukraine will sow.

        the answer is ready, not at all. they are only preparing in the Donbass, but in the rest of the 404 - oh, it seems, as if not ...
    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty 28 March 2022 18: 00
      -3
      lubesky-here, they are ours with us. then they will pay with gold! By the fact that in landons and various pairs lies ...
  3. Third district
    Third district 28 March 2022 17: 27
    +16
    Consequently, by demanding to pay for raw materials in rubles, Russia violates the terms of the contracts.

    Thieves and robbers in the west suddenly started talking about the observance of rules and laws.
    1. Carat
      Carat 28 March 2022 17: 36
      +14
      You understand what a performance. When they rob - it's legal, when they - it's arbitrariness and lawlessness.
    2. Clear
      Clear 28 March 2022 18: 06
      +4
      Quote: Third District
      Consequently, by demanding to pay for raw materials in rubles, Russia violates the terms of the contracts.

      Thieves and robbers in the west suddenly started talking about the observance of rules and laws.

      They always had laws only for others.
  4. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 28 March 2022 17: 27
    +10
    "existing contracts specify a different currency."
    So there is nothing about sanctions. Well, to supply you with gas, so that later the money is frozen again. It's like it's free.
    1. Carat
      Carat 28 March 2022 17: 38
      +9
      Quote: Lena Petrova
      It's like it's free.


      Why like? It's free and it works. Just do not ride with them.
      1. Plate
        Plate 28 March 2022 22: 21
        +1
        We will give you dollars for your gas, but you will not be able to use them, because they will be on blocked accounts. And yes, you still have to pay contributions to the Council of Europe. Of course, not from blocked accounts!
        1. Carat
          Carat 28 March 2022 23: 00
          +2
          Quote: Plate
          And yes, you still have to pay contributions to the Council of Europe.


          Russia left the Council of Europe.
          1. Plate
            Plate 29 March 2022 07: 45
            +1
            So this is the absurdity of European requirements.
  5. Alevil
    Alevil 28 March 2022 17: 27
    +9
    End of European industry. The Americans still got their way.
    1. Clear
      Clear 28 March 2022 18: 09
      +7
      Quote: Alevil
      End of European industry. The Americans still got their way.

      Yes, they are consistent in this. For their complete happiness, it remains only to throw Poland into an armed conflict with Russia. And Europe can be plundered already insolently.
  6. Sailor
    Sailor 28 March 2022 17: 29
    +17
    The main thing is that ours do not give up.
    1. Clear
      Clear 28 March 2022 18: 10
      +2
      Quote: Sailor
      The main thing is that ours do not give up.

      Who will blink first.
      1. just exp
        just exp 28 March 2022 18: 31
        -2
        the only question here is what will happen to the old contracts?
        because initially it was in the news that the NEW contracts would be in rubles, and the old ones would remain, but then everywhere they began to write that all unfriendly countries were only in rubles and directly from some date.
        although if it was in the old treaties, then why did the Italians and Germans start to swell? they have old contracts for a few more years.
  7. svp67
    svp67 28 March 2022 17: 30
    +4
    Germany says G7 countries will not pay for Russian gas in rubles
    And payments in foreign currency do not go through, since the accounts are arrested ... Well, that means we also need to "arrest" our energy carriers
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 28 March 2022 17: 30
    +2
    We have firewood in Siberia! Stormy and prolonged laughter, turning into hysteria. The West probably remembers this. April 1 is a good fun day.
  9. Nafanya from the sofa
    Nafanya from the sofa 28 March 2022 17: 30
    +5
    It seems that now ordinary fools are in power in the countries of Europe. Otherwise, it is simply impossible to evaluate the statements of European officials. Chatterboxes and demagogues and a complete lack of professional competence in economic matters.
    1. Clear
      Clear 28 March 2022 18: 15
      +2
      Quote: Nafanya from the couch
      It seems that now ordinary fools are in power in the countries of Europe. Otherwise, it is simply impossible to evaluate the statements of European officials. Chatterboxes and demagogues and a complete lack of professional competence in economic matters.

      There are no fools, there are vassals who do not have the right to vote.
      1. Nafanya from the sofa
        Nafanya from the sofa 28 March 2022 18: 24
        +4
        There are no fools, there are vassals who do not have the right to vote.

        I disagree with you about voting rights. The statements made recently by some of the European leaders unequivocally confirm the proverb: "If you keep silent, you will pass for a smart one."
        Well, Grandpa Joe's statements generally give the impression that he is not aware of what and where he is saying.
  10. maxim1987
    maxim1987 28 March 2022 17: 31
    +1
    well go goat in the crack
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  12. tech3030
    tech3030 28 March 2022 17: 32
    +1
    Well, what will turn on the rear BB? And then we will listen to excuses, they say it's different? If this happens, our people will die in vain ...
    1. Clear
      Clear 28 March 2022 18: 16
      +4
      Quote: tech3030
      Well, what will turn on the rear BB? And then we will listen to excuses, they say it's different? If this happens, our people will die in vain ...

      Is there a place to take it back?
      1. tech3030
        tech3030 28 March 2022 18: 40
        +6
        In my understanding, no! That's why I'm asking this question. Now give up the slack - give the jackals a reason to tear us apart.
        1. Clear
          Clear 28 March 2022 19: 18
          +3
          Quote: tech3030
          In my understanding, no! That's why I'm asking this question. Now give up the slack - give the jackals a reason to tear us apart.

          And I, about it yes
          1. tech3030
            tech3030 29 March 2022 16: 02
            +2
            Well, they turn on the back ... negotiations have begun. Everything is as always, we are stupidly betrayed.
            1. Clear
              Clear 29 March 2022 18: 25
              +2
              Quote: tech3030
              Well, they turn on the back ... negotiations have begun. Everything is as always, we are stupidly betrayed.

              Can you explain why they do it?
  13. Carat
    Carat 28 March 2022 17: 32
    +5
    At the same time, he assured that Russia would definitely not supply “blue fuel” to anyone for free, and therefore the likelihood of simply closing off supplies to them increases.


    The formula is simple: no rubles - no gas.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 28 March 2022 17: 40
      +3
      Let them study the classics. About chairs and money. Oh, and it’s forbidden for them. Then let them drown with chairs.
      1. Carat
        Carat 28 March 2022 18: 00
        +3
        Russia supplies hundreds of billions of cubic meters of gas to Europe alone. I'm afraid there won't be enough replacement chairs.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 28 March 2022 18: 08
          +3
          Europe believes that there will be enough chairs. There is peace on the stock exchange. On March 31, we will find out what ours are up to, but before that we need to troll them at the expense of their sanctions, at the expense of their legality. And all their courts are on the drum.
          1. Clear
            Clear 28 March 2022 18: 21
            +9
            Quote: tralflot1832
            The market is calm.

            Actually, the game is serious.
            Let's not underestimate Europe, it is ready to sacrifice a lot, and will go to great lengths for itself in order to crush Russia once and for all.
            See what Russophobia is there. This has been prepared for a long time (including sanctions) and now it is obvious that we simply got ahead of the blow (both military and financial and economic).
            1. Carat
              Carat 28 March 2022 18: 27
              +7
              Quote: Clear
              Let's not underestimate Europe, she is ready to sacrifice a lot, and will go to many hardships for herself in order to crush Russia once and for all


              Then let's not underestimate the USA. They are ready to sacrifice Europe and will go to great lengths for themselves in order to crush Russia once and for all
            2. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 28 March 2022 18: 54
              +4
              They had everything ready, from flags to fashion shows. But our SVR eats bread for a reason.
          2. Carat
            Carat 28 March 2022 18: 24
            +5
            And the meanest Stockholm court is already on the drum. For he is in the jurisdiction of PACE, and we are no longer there.
  14. ivan2022
    ivan2022 28 March 2022 17: 36
    -3
    They always knew what they wanted.
    But Russian politics regularly changes its direction by 180 degrees. We are still looking in the darkness for the right path.... From the time of Peter to the present day.

    If in 1917 there was at least the World War as the cause of the collapse, then for the last time in 1991 they got to the point that they gouged their country simply for the sake of "entering the world community" .. So that Yeltsin could dance "Kalinka" in Berlin, and Chubais with Berezovsky - to become millionaires.

    And the period of fluctuations is getting shorter and shorter.... Oh, if Russia played at least an active role in this process, and not a passive one, it would be something to be proud of.

    I don’t know what else the bosses can get into their heads in the next few years, it’s scary to even think about it.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 28 March 2022 17: 45
      0
      Well, here it’s more likely from the fact that they manage to arrange a small coup in our country from time to time, and, well, a primordially Russian looking back at their actions on the opinion of Europe. I always thought it was our dumbest trait.
  15. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 March 2022 17: 38
    +5
    German Vice Chancellor Robert Habek said that the GXNUMX countries would not comply with Moscow's demand regarding payment for gas supplied in rubles.
    He called such demands an attempt to "split" the Western countries and added that they have "solidity and determination" to prevent a split.

    "According to Ivan Abramov, Deputy Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Economic Policy, such a position of the G7 "will definitely lead to a cessation of gas supplies." According to him, Western countries have enough opportunities to purchase rubles, "you can do it instantly on any exchange."
    This is how they sang in the West, and they suddenly remembered about the rights, though only about their own, forgetting that Russia also has rights.
    "I'm right because I'm always right" is an expression Europe borrowed from the United States.
    "And you can face it and talk about the table" - this is already a Russian expression.
  16. dimy44
    dimy44 28 March 2022 17: 38
    +10
    Putin dealt with them gently anyway, gave them the opportunity to receive gas for rubles. I could even close the valve as a response. Will their population freeze? Ha ha, do they think a lot about the population of Russia when they introduce packages of sanctions? War, so war.
  17. evgen1221
    evgen1221 28 March 2022 17: 42
    +1
    Well, that means tomorrow the gas will be turned off. They were already told that there would be no free gas.
  18. Olkhovsky
    Olkhovsky 28 March 2022 17: 44
    +7
    Stage of denial.
    But the strengthening of the ruble suggests that someone is already preparing for new realities
    1. hohohol
      hohohol 28 March 2022 19: 40
      +6
      Stage of denial.

      I would say that Russia is entering the stage of liquidation of the arrogance of Europe!
  19. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 28 March 2022 17: 48
    +5
    Once the decision is made, then you need to hold on to the end, calmly declare that since they banned their currency, they will now operate with the ruble. It would be nice to denominate the ruble, remove the extra zero. soldier
  20. ISKANDER_61
    ISKANDER_61 28 March 2022 17: 50
    +2
    Don't want to pay? Let them smoke bamboo.
  21. Commodore Arctic
    Commodore Arctic 28 March 2022 17: 50
    +7
    They won't go anywhere! The main thing for us is not to leave our positions! Forgive no one - all for Rubles !!!! and not only for GAS, but also for Oil, Timber and other resources - only the Ruble! am
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 March 2022 18: 36
      +4
      The same thing will happen soon. One hell of a lot with other countries, they began to pay in national currencies, and even private individuals were forbidden to import euros and dollars to Russia, and now in the West we can buy little with them, hence the question is why the hell do we keep the exchange rate for these currencies in rubles and what do they have value?
  22. Adagka
    Adagka 28 March 2022 17: 50
    +7
    Well, now let's see how our leader is responsible for the words, now there are two options, either give back and drain the entire special operation or close the gas valve and let them eat each other.
  23. zsdk
    zsdk 28 March 2022 17: 51
    +2
    Well, as they want. Autumn will come, winter will follow, they run in, piss in the corners!
  24. Eva Star
    Eva Star 28 March 2022 17: 51
    +9
    So that's great. I hope Putin does not back down. Everyone turn off the gas. How can you even trade with those who give weapons to the Nazis. All resources for rubles for hostile countries.
  25. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 28 March 2022 17: 52
    +6
    the main thing is that the GDP should keep its promise
  26. Pavel57
    Pavel57 28 March 2022 17: 52
    +4
    The West is crushing us, so we need to crush the West. Gas is an excellent reason to make the ruble a world currency.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 March 2022 18: 42
      0
      More uranium oil wood iron ore xenon REM food transit cargo and everything else. It is possible with an ultimatum, we give you gas, and you give us all high-tech production equipment, including for the production of microelectronics and components for them.
  27. tuts
    tuts 28 March 2022 17: 53
    +2
    On no and no gas
  28. alystan
    alystan 28 March 2022 17: 54
    +2
    German Vice Chancellor Robert Habek said that the GXNUMX countries would not comply with Moscow's demand regarding payment for gas supplied in rubles.

    Wonderful are your deeds... The vice-chancellor contradicts the chancellor, who just the other day said: "The German position is that under the current conditions the energy boycott is not supported."
    Even more fully and humanistically (what came over them?) spoke the official representative of the German government, Steffen Hebeshtreit.
    First of all, we are talking about the provision of Germany, the provision of heat for hospitals, nursing homes, as well as many apartments.

    They remembered the elderly, the sick and the rest, before that, unnecessary citizens to anyone ...
    Further adding that the German economy would certainly not have benefited from such a boycott and would have lost a significant number of jobs.
  29. Astra55
    Astra55 28 March 2022 17: 59
    +7
    We decided to fire wood...
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 29 March 2022 08: 06
      0
      Where are the firewood from? Again, you will have to buy for rubles.
  30. Emergency
    Emergency 28 March 2022 18: 02
    +5
    Change lace underpants for warmer ones. You can send your liberated panties to the APU as humanitarian aid.
  31. Sibguest
    Sibguest 28 March 2022 18: 03
    +2

    Note: for every cunning European ass, we have our own gas .... valve.
  32. Kesha1980
    Kesha1980 28 March 2022 18: 03
    +1
    Khabek added that by taking such measures, President Vladimir Putin, apparently, was trying to disrupt the unity in the GXNUMX.

    So there are such prerequisites, since they themselves talk about it. But the Germans, of course, will hit hardest of all. Soon Merkel will be raised on the barricades). The Germans now clearly regret comparing Merkel and Scholz - "but this did not happen before ...").
  33. STUG III
    STUG III 28 March 2022 18: 04
    +7
    Well, that's exactly what the United States is trying to achieve. Destroy the EU economy. And this will happen if Europe refuses our gas or Russia cuts it off. Europe itself is stepping into the abyss as if hypnotized, and the United States gently pushes them in the back from across the ocean.
    1. bender528
      bender528 28 March 2022 18: 15
      +7
      Europe's self-sawing began with the introduction of the 3rd energy package, but now, under the strict guidance of the United States, they are breaking all speed records. laughing
  34. opposite28
    opposite28 28 March 2022 18: 04
    +2
    German Vice Chancellor Robert Habek said that the GXNUMX countries would not comply with Moscow's demand regarding payment for gas supplied in rubles.
    The winter of 2022 will show how far-sighted the policies of the G7 were, as well as whether the main political theses of the German Green Party regarding CO2 emissions into the atmosphere of Europe will come true. recourse
  35. Commodore Arctic
    Commodore Arctic 28 March 2022 18: 05
    0
    The only question is ONE: At what rate will Geyropa exchange his currency for our Rubles ?? and this is actually an important question, obviously, not at the exchange rate! The rate should be fixed - and be a little more than the Exchange!
  36. Cynic
    Cynic 28 March 2022 18: 05
    +3
    existing contracts specify a different currency.

    And what is there in the agreements on freezing accounts and prohibitions? Cunningly crafted Europe is all for free, gas today, and payment later, maybe?
    In vain, only gas, there is still a lot of what they basically took from us for greenery ...
  37. Vovanych007
    Vovanych007 28 March 2022 18: 08
    0
    You do not want and do not need to. Stoke chairs.
  38. bender528
    bender528 28 March 2022 18: 09
    +5
    I feel April Fool's Day - April 1, will be fun in Europe. laughing
  39. kakvastam
    kakvastam 28 March 2022 18: 13
    +1
    The question is what are the sanctions for cutting off supplies.
    Otherwise they will not understand, now there will be a war of nerves.
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  41. tralmaster
    tralmaster 28 March 2022 18: 18
    +3
    Well, let the wolf's tail freeze. As soon as the factories start to close, we'll see what happens to these governments. A bunch of drunks and liberals.
  42. hohohol
    hohohol 28 March 2022 18: 18
    +3
    They remembered the agreements a bit late, we also concluded agreements with them on the safety of funds when we placed our assets in Western banks. A typical example of Western hypocrisy.
  43. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 28 March 2022 18: 20
    +3
    Then they will have to decide who to deprive of energy first. Transport, production or housing and communal services. But in any case, yellow vests will come to the streets and squares of cities. Sooner or later.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 March 2022 18: 44
      -1
      The yellow vests have already come out and Macaron in the upcoming elections in France, the current situation is deadly.
  44. RoTTor
    RoTTor 28 March 2022 18: 24
    +4
    They sensed the warmth and become impudent.
    This is not for long, in winter, as always, the descendants of the underdogs begin to grow wiser.
    And let their industry die without gas.
  45. XNUMX%
    XNUMX% 28 March 2022 18: 29
    +1
    Germany said that the G7 countries would not pay for Russian gas in rubles.

    These will be purely your problems, the problems of shit Europe.
    Or Russian gas in rubles, or American gas in dollars. In the second case, early elections with the expulsion of American eurofools from the echelons of power are INEVITABLE.
  46. Sochi
    Sochi 28 March 2022 18: 30
    +4
    Do not want in rubles? will pay in gold...or will be without gas. We are not interested in wrappers like the euro, and candy wrappers with the presidents of the tan.
  47. bender528
    bender528 28 March 2022 18: 30
    +9
    Fools start a new life from April 1
    - It's technically impossible!
    - Well, why, perhaps. You go to the exchange, buy rubles, pay for gas.
    - Then you have to change all the contracts!
    - Have to.
    - We will have to circumvent our own sanctions!
    - Walk around.
    - It will create problems!
    - Create.
    - We will impose an embargo on Russian gas supplies!
    - Enter.
    - Let's give it up!
    - Refuse.
    - Quite quite!
    - Yeah, got it, got it.
    - We will vote!
    - Vote.

    A month goes by...

    - We decided not to buy your gas.
    - Do not buy.
    - You'll regret it!
    - We feel sorry for you.
    - You remember us.
    - We remember you anyway. How alive before your eyes stand.
    We will consult.
    - Take advice.
    - Just in case, send us your terms on the new contract.
    - Sent, look in the mail.
    - Details are illegible.
    - Now let's duplicate it.

    Another month has passed

    - All right, in rubles, but the price quotes are at the rate of the London Stock Exchange.
    - London, taking into account the Hong Kong.
    - All right, accepted.
    - But the exchange rate of the ruble on the MICEX.
    It's robbery in broad daylight.
    - Other options are technically impossible.

    Autumn came. September

    - We have people live in blankets and sleep in two sweaters.
    - Coaches from Donbass can give you survival courses. Payment in rubles.
    - The vaults are empty. Maybe we can agree on euros?
    - What are they to us? Salt? What to do with them?
    - Where are we going to get such an amount of rubles?
    - Sell something.
    - What?
    - We'll tell you. Search in mail.

    Winter has come. December

    - Telegram. Kremlin. Putin. Urgently. Send food and lots of gas period Agree any conditions period Payment in rubles period Hugs!!!
  48. Fat
    Fat 28 March 2022 18: 43
    +4
    This provides an excellent opportunity to close the gas traffic through Ukraine. They will not pay - not everyone will have enough gas. In Europe, 7 includes only Germany, France, Italy. (Britain is not Europe). Master's business... laughing
  49. rocket757
    rocket757 28 March 2022 18: 43
    +6
    Germany says G7 countries will not pay for Russian gas in rubles
    . And sho, they said loudly, they turned their nose up high ...
    Interesting events are coming, we'll see.
  50. vmo
    vmo 28 March 2022 18: 54
    +2
    Everything will be like in the proverb about a submarine, but where will you go, or listen to the presumptuous Minister of Agriculture, and in other respects your choice.