General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine confused in the words about the "stopped" or "rejected" Russian troops near Kiev

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General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine confused in the words about the "stopped" or "rejected" Russian troops near Kiev

The Ukrainian command presented a summary of the situation in the Kiev region, which is part of the northern sector of the Russian special military operation. The summary, like many others published by the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, raises at least questions. She was introduced by the Deputy Chief of Staff of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, General Alexander Guzevich.

According to Guzevich, Ukrainian troops "on the right bank of Kyiv" (that is, on the right bank of the Dnieper) were driven back up to 70 km. "Of course, such a report may cause alarm among Russian users interested in the situation. After all, 70 km is more than an impressive distance taking into account the option in which the special operation takes place.



But the same Ukrainian general Guzevich then literally says the following: "We thwarted the enemy's plans, on the right bank of the river he was stopped for almost 70 km, which makes it impossible to fire, except for rocket fire, on the capital."

Agree that there is a difference between the words "thrown back by 70 km" and "stopped by 70 km" ...

Further, it turns out that the Ukrainian general decided, as they say, to add valor or a jingoistic Maidan "intoxication" and called the "stop" of the Russian troops the territory where the Russian troops were not going to approach at this stage. We are talking about the direction Fastov - Belaya Tserkov, which is located on the right bank of the Dnieper, but on which there are simply no Russian troops.

It turns out that the general of the Armed Forces of Ukraine announced that Russian troops were "thrown back" from there or even to where they did not exist at all.


But there are Russian troops along the entire western and northwestern arc around Kyiv - from Byshev to Demidov, including the vicinity of Irpen, from where it is no more than 5 km to the outskirts of Kyiv.

But further - more. The mentioned Ukrainian general, commenting on the situation on the left bank of the Dnieper in the Kiev region, issued such a tirade that any sane person can hardly understand.

Here is what Guzevich said:

On the left bank we have a small advance, but now we have liquidated it.

Who was eliminated? Own promotion?

Such a statement somehow resonates with the epic words of the then Minister of Defense of Ukraine Stepan Poltorak about "advancing troops from the south-north."

And now to more serious things. General Guzevich can talk a lot and for a long time. But the situation near Kiev is such that Russian troops, having fairly settled down and having already reached Baryshevka (east of the Ukrainian capital) with the possibility of partial control of the Kyiv-Kharkov highway, hung over the Kiev regime with the sword of Damocles. The situation for the Ukrainian armed formations is such that, even if they wanted to, they would not be able to come forward to help the Kharkov group, which asked them for help. The road in the Baryshevka area is controlled from the ground and air. Any column of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, national battalions, terbatov will be destroyed even in the first kilometers of the march. And then General Guzevich will have to explain to the people of Kiev who, after all, was liquidated.
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  1. -30
    18 March 2022 18: 10
    Well, the generals are the same everywhere.
    1. +13
      18 March 2022 18: 14
      Well, what should he say? Meli Emelya, when you still have to, or even not at all. request
      1. +13
        18 March 2022 19: 25
        So Klitschko writes texts for him! Or is it for Nickname??? request Generally -
        "weird way of talking when the brain is resting" fellow (c) M. Zhvanetsky
        1. +5
          18 March 2022 19: 32
          Quote: usr01
          Generally -
          "a strange way of speaking when the brain is resting" (c) M. Zhvanetsky

          It is impossible to argue with M Zhvanetsky, he took examples from life and mainly in \\ in Ukraine.
        2. +4
          18 March 2022 20: 08
          Quote: usr01
          So Klitschko writes texts for him! Or is it for Nickname???

          Two boots - felt boots. What to take from them.
        3. 0
          19 March 2022 15: 46
          ahaha))) Klitschko writes) laughing laughing
    2. +20
      18 March 2022 18: 27
      request Their usual wording: "Russian troops retreated 50 km forward" fool doesn't work anymore... fool
      1. +9
        18 March 2022 18: 50
        oh my brain!! only Klitschko can understand them!
        1. +6
          18 March 2022 18: 52
          wassat And it is better to keep silent about this brain. His device is beyond the understanding of Klochko himself)))) fool
      2. +6
        18 March 2022 18: 55
        Quote: zloybond
        request Their usual wording: "Russian troops retreated 50 km forward" fool doesn't work anymore... fool

        I remembered from the time of the school in physio: "comrade cadets perform a throw - through themselves!" angry
        1. +3
          18 March 2022 20: 58
          belay So that's where this harsh reality comes from.
          what I sit and remember the term, the cadet years, the service ... and I understand ... we all came from the same school ....
          hi (Well, those who forgot that he was Russian had to call doctors ....)
          1. +1
            19 March 2022 07: 49
            Quote: zloybond
            belay So that's where this harsh reality comes from.
            what I sit and remember the term, the cadet years, the service ... and I understand ... we all came from the same school ....
            hi (Well, those who forgot that he was Russian had to call doctors ....)

            hi Everything is exactly like that!
      3. +5
        18 March 2022 19: 14
        Quote: zloybond
        request Their usual wording: "Russian troops retreated 50 km forward" fool doesn't work anymore... fool

        Russian troops retreat from Kyiv in the direction of Lvov. laughing lol wassat
      4. +3
        18 March 2022 20: 09
        Quote: zloybond
        Their usual wording: "Russian troops retreated 50 km forward"

        The main thing is to crow - Peremoooga !!!"
    3. +5
      18 March 2022 18: 27
      Quote: sergo1914
      Well, the generals are the same everywhere.

      Ukrainian, generally out of competition.
      1. +4
        18 March 2022 18: 35
        But he graduated from the Soviet military school. Or already independent?
      2. +2
        18 March 2022 18: 51
        Quote: Fitter65
        Quote: sergo1914
        Well, the generals are the same everywhere.

        Ukrainian, generally out of competition.

        Definitely..! Remember that talking head? Tymchuk)))
    4. +8
      18 March 2022 18: 40
      Certainly! And we won the Second World War not thanks to, but in spite of them. Do you think so?
    5. +1
      18 March 2022 18: 40
      To draw such conclusions and visit it is necessary everywhere. And so it's empty chatter.
    6. +10
      18 March 2022 18: 46
      Quote: sergo1914
      Well, the generals are the same everywhere.

      Especially sofas.
    7. +5
      18 March 2022 18: 50
      Well, why are you like this, maybe this is the third of the Klitschko brothers !?
    8. 0
      19 March 2022 13: 19
      Well, the generals are the same everywhere.
      The authors are also not very different:
      about direction Fastiv - Bila Tserkva

      Find this direction on the map below? What for to insert into the article a map that does not reflect ... yes, in general, does not reflect anything indicated in the article ...
      Oh ... Fastov found .... on the "right bank", either the author or I have topographical cretinism. Judging by the map - I'm healthy.
      1. +1
        19 March 2022 14: 43
        Oo ... Fastov found .... on the "right bank", either with the author or with me
        ... well, here you are somewhat wrong with the libel .... the point is how the author considers "bank-left, bank-right" from a topographic point where the bank is left and right is considered from the source of the river to the mouth, or from a geographic one that provides from the equator, a decrease in the digital value of latitudes to zero .... so it doesn’t matter which coast that Fastov is on. ... the direction can be strategic .. from Fastov to Lviv, or to Odessa ... it doesn’t matter anymore
        1. 0
          19 March 2022 14: 48
          Well, topography is accepted all over the world: the north - to the left of the north is the left bank, the right - respectively, they teach it in the army, because it’s not good for soldiers to guess (know) where the river mouth is and where the source is. So, what about the libels .... this is about myself ...
          1. +2
            19 March 2022 14: 57
            Well, the topography is accepted all over the world: north is to the left of north
            ... again, you worked to zero .... a device is defined to determine the location - a sextant is called, it determines your location. and it doesn't matter where you are. what matters is the distance from you to the target .... and most importantly ... the military uses the "snail" map in the old fashioned way where there is neither left nor right ... there are only coordinates of the location ... well, something like that. ... by the way, you held a sextant in your hands, I don’t even ask how to work with it ....
            1. 0
              19 March 2022 15: 14
              Well, 10 years of difference does not give you the right to call me on YOU - this is the time. In all the exercises, when we were given the task of crossing to the left bank, we carried it out according to the compass and according to the maps "always right". A sextant .... in the infantry, I have never seen in my life even among officers. So you - YOU piz .... bol.
              My opinion!!!!
              By the way, a sextant needs the sun, and I can use it (albeit theoretically) (self-education). But they don’t use it in the ground forces, because it’s not advisable (Changeable weather, you know, you know) You still suggest using the Vikings’ “stone of the Sun” ... God, what nonsense people are talking here
              1. ANB
                0
                21 March 2022 16: 14
                . By the way, a sextant needs the sun, and I can use it (albeit theoretically) (self-education). But in the ground forces it is not used,

                Both are wrong.
                The sextant allows you to accurately measure angles. In navigation, it is used to determine the height of the sun above the horizon. That is, not only the sun, but also the stars are suitable. Used by sailors. It is practically impossible to use it on the shore, since there is no real horizon line. Yes, and you need to know your height as accurately as possible.
          2. 0
            21 March 2022 16: 17
            How it is accepted all over the world - I do not know. But in Russian "Left-bank Ukraine" has always been from the Dnieper and towards Russia. And how, based on your ideas, to determine the side of the rivers flowing parallel to the equator? And there are also rivers that meander, vile ... The same Volga ...
        2. 0
          19 March 2022 14: 51
          I will even say more: in Siberia, two neighboring rivers run in different directions, and on military maps the right-left banks will create huge confusion ... You are wrong.
          1. +1
            19 March 2022 15: 06
            , and on military maps, the right-left banks will create huge confusion ..
            .... the map "snail" never lies, I repeat once again ... it is important to determine your location .... and then determine how much to stomp even to the neighboring village for moonshine, even for shopping in New York .... the main thing you need to know your location ... well, and then calculate your capabilities ... so you’re in vain about Fastov
            1. 0
              19 March 2022 15: 16
              Look..the ones above... sailor...
              1. 0
                19 March 2022 15: 29
                Look..the ones above... sailor...
                .... as he used to say in the famous film, paraphrasing "why watch a dog if you don't show anything" (about the dog, this is not about you personally to Ivan Vasilyich) ... let's get to the point. ...
                1. 0
                  19 March 2022 15: 34
                  yes, in essence, I already said ... landmen do not use a sextant, because it’s not good to bother. If you are a sailor, sorry - different concepts of topography.
                  Sincerely hi
                  1. 0
                    19 March 2022 15: 42
                    If you are a sailor, sorry - different concepts of topography.
                    Regards hi
                    ... well, Aleksey Batkovich (you didn’t provide a middle name) I got acquainted with the sextant when I served the term 1991-1994 on the PSK Donbass board 201, and so most of my life at the moment I served in my beloved Fire Department, so I can tell a lot about the location... about you. then when you served at all and didn’t have to study the topography or the place of the situation ... it came to you from the engineering service, which, without any zhps and glonass, exactly made up "snails" .... I hope we will discuss it again .. Sincerely
                    1. 0
                      19 March 2022 15: 53
                      I can’t help but agree, they provided the coordinates, but we “went” to them using the compass and the Zh.paES map, and even more so, we didn’t have Glonass, not only in the army, civilians then only received such data on the coolest gadgets .... we are the old fashioned way ...
                      1. 0
                        19 March 2022 16: 04
                        "Zh.paES"
                        .... joke about zheps from me ....
                        in our village a long time ago there was one of two crossings through the railway line, and then at 3 o’clock in the morning I called “help pull the car out of the railway lines” ... we arrive .... renoshka on the second lane of the railway line at a closed crossing without front suspension, well pulled. we ask the woman how you got here, there are slabs there, ... she showed the route to the jeeps and here we go without lighting and the wall turned away well .... well, about 100 km per hour per hour .... and also there was a case with this move when a four-axle dump truck drove onto the railway line ... I was not there, but there was a tin ... here's a zhps
                      2. 0
                        19 March 2022 17: 34
                        Yes, full of such nonsense. I was younger, I thought - Glonass is cooler (by definition of coordinates) because of the geostationary orbit, it turned out to be cooler who has better software and chip performance. We have something to strive for
                      3. 0
                        19 March 2022 17: 46
                        canceled all the minuses according to article 1.01 of the site code
                        "as illegal, due to ignorance of the material part" soldier
                      4. 0
                        19 March 2022 21: 27
                        canceled all the minuses according to article 1.01 of the site code
                        ... yes, Lyokha, I spit on these minuses from a high hill ... the main thing is that I do not allow myself to put them ... I live at the moment in a binary electronic world where there is 0 and there is 1, there is no other sane and accessible to everyone yet came up with
            2. 0
              19 March 2022 15: 26
              Still offer the astrolabe ... those .... there will be norms)))
              1. 0
                19 March 2022 15: 32
                Suggest an astrolabe..
                ... if you want to tell a couple of stories about the ZHPS .. thank God without death ..... so the astrolabe along the way is definitely better than the compass ... or rather, the compass positively complements it
                1. 0
                  19 March 2022 17: 14
                  Yes, I don’t argue)) It’s just that we dry enough for a map and a compass + ballistic tables. You sailors can’t do without an astrolabe and a sextant if there are no satellites either ....)))
                2. 0
                  19 March 2022 17: 39
                  Tell us, we'll all be interested.
                  1. +1
                    19 March 2022 20: 47
                    Tell us, we'll all be interested.
                    ... there was a chip in the 15th year ... I went to arrange my second one at the Nakhimov School in Sevas .. well, I looked on the map, everything seems to be clear, on the outskirts, I know the center of Sevas so and so, but the periphery is zero .. well, here kent-I have a zhps ... let's go .... well, we reached Sevas and then the zhps led us into impassable country jungles ... in the end, I decided to turn on the folk zhps in the old fashioned way ... that is, ask how to get there ... well, we got there ... back, too, Kent turned on the zhps ... as a result, we ended up on a one-way road, and against the wool .... and then I spat on this zhps and went straight to the east ... as a result, I went to Ostryakov's friend and everything ... the way home .... so I personally don't give a damn about the jeps whether it is or not
                    1. 0
                      19 March 2022 21: 40
                      You won’t believe it ... everything is sad ... in the second grade I read 120 words per minute with an expression ........ I just did my homework, with my friend’s daughter, the 2nd grade cannot multiply 2x11 .. ..but I'm not a teacher...but I explained...
                      1. 0
                        19 March 2022 21: 51
                        This is the answer to the Asshole generation
                    2. 0
                      19 March 2022 21: 41
                      And how to teach history to them if they don’t even know how to write in the 2nd? ...
                      1. 0
                        19 March 2022 21: 59
                        And how to teach history to them if they don’t even know how to write in the 2nd? ...
                        .... well, Lyosh, you lied about it, on the clave they do such things that, God forbid, I’m unlikely to succeed with you ... in fact, this is how you set the start .... my first-born studied through the horizontal bar. hunchback is a ten with a clean bench press, and so on. now she is participating in coclaine on the tank ... the second one, on the way from the technical school, also wants to go through the military line, and the youngest one is in the Kurchatov class, so whatever you call the yacht she will go
        3. -2
          19 March 2022 15: 28
          I don’t know about you, but it seems that everyone at school was taught in geography lessons what the left and right banks of the river are and it’s somehow strange to get confused in this
          1. 0
            19 March 2022 15: 53
            but it seems that everyone at school was taught in geography lessons,
            ... in geography lessons in Soviet times, they taught what longitude and latitude are and not about the coast-left coast-right ..... the point with the definition of longitude and latitude in seconds is important .... but everything else is not important ... on which bank of the Mendyuki and on the Kok of the Shmendyuki .... longitude and latitude are important
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              1. 0
                19 March 2022 16: 15
                and here we are talking about the use of terms of reference to the terrain
                ... and what the hell are the terms for you .... if you are on one side and you need to cross to the other .. the term is the only "opposite bank" and that's it, exactly the same for lakes and reservoirs, there is an opposite bank. and the coordinates are not only measured by the stomach .... as the head of Severstroy used to say in the film "Territory", paraphrasing --- "you can believe or not believe in ideas, but the geographical location is a thing quite material"
                1. 0
                  19 March 2022 17: 26
                  Well, "lake" is you exaggerated a little, "a lake is a closed body of water, overcoming of which is impractical on the water surface" (c) I don't remember where I read it .... On a conventional unit - "lake" there is no concept of "opposite shore"
                  1. 0
                    19 March 2022 22: 10
                    On the conventional unit - "lake" there is no concept of "opposite shore"
                    ... again past ... Lyosh .. my grandfather got seriously injured just on Lake Balaton in 1944, and one of the fragments finished him off in 84 ... so I don’t need to specify about the opposite shore of the lake
  2. +7
    18 March 2022 18: 12
    It seems that this general can only do whatever comes to mind! fool Or, eat with your whole head lol .But, it is clearly contraindicated for him to think, his brains quickly turn sour wassat
  3. +11
    18 March 2022 18: 12
    "Not only everyone can understand this. I would even say that few people can do it...."
  4. +8
    18 March 2022 18: 15
    His job is to lie, lie, lie.
    1. +4
      18 March 2022 19: 02
      To lie, you need to have a good memory .... but they have problems with their brains ... wassat
      1. +1
        18 March 2022 20: 11
        They're ok with cocaine
    2. +2
      18 March 2022 20: 36
      Quote: polpot
      His job is to lie, lie, lie.

      Well, like this! Whole Brigadier General. Gruzevich (error in the surname in the text)
      When did you finish school? It's not that important. There have always been triples with a "paw on top".
  5. +2
    18 March 2022 18: 15
    He himself doesn't know what to say and how... as it was said about the withdrawal-approach!
  6. +11
    18 March 2022 18: 21
    Actually, Baryshevka is east of Kyiv. And the road to Kharkov goes east.
    1. +4
      18 March 2022 18: 27
      Actually Baryshevka east of Kyiv
      I was surprised too. The author messed up.
      1. +3
        18 March 2022 18: 43
        The author is not to blame. Anyone after quoting Poltorakov's "north-south direction" is guaranteed to have a brain failure.
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  8. +2
    18 March 2022 18: 26
    According to Guzevich, Ukrainian troops "on the right bank of Kyiv" (that is, on the right bank of the Dnieper) were thrown back up to 70 km "... But the same Ukrainian general Guzevich immediately says the following: "We thwarted the enemy's plans, on the right bank of the river it stopped for almost 70 km,
    Well, what's wrong with that? After all, in 2015, one Ukrainian general repelled a Russian offensive from the south-north. So, this one is a baby.
  9. +1
    18 March 2022 18: 30
    And what is the fuss about:
    Ukrainian troops "on the right bank of Kyiv" (that is, on the right bank of the Dnieper) were driven back to a distance of up to 70 km

    What's wrong?
    we have a small promotion, but now we have eliminated it.

    It is logical - they themselves organized, and liquidated themselves.
  10. +4
    18 March 2022 18: 30
    Tell him someone that a lot of fat smoking is harmful. From this, the convolutions on the brain are smoothed out.
  11. +8
    18 March 2022 18: 34
    In the main photo of the AK warrior of the first series, if I'm not mistaken. Warehouses NZ 50-ies opened.
  12. +6
    18 March 2022 18: 36
    laughing Here is the Bandera mug. Looks like gorilki went through.
  13. +2
    18 March 2022 18: 41
    Well, he can't say nothing... Unlike Konashenkov, it's harder for him. wassat
  14. +1
    18 March 2022 18: 41
    ... with the epic words of the then Minister of Defense of Ukraine Stepan Poltorak about "advancing troops from the south-north."

    They will always be funny, until the end of time - stupid, greedy Ukrainian little ones in uniform. But now we are not in the mood for jokes, so the jokes of the Ukrainian generals will cost them very dearly, that is, not at all for free. They say - we do. And then, those who spoke a lot ... will be remembered.
  15. +12
    18 March 2022 18: 55


    Charlie Hebdo cover. 2 euros for petrol? Ride Ukrainians. It's free.
    1. +5
      18 March 2022 19: 35
      ,, Charlie, of course scum anyway)
      1. +2
        18 March 2022 20: 21
        Quote from blade3
        ,, Charlie, of course scum anyway

        For that, they got it in full. "Filter Bazaar Charlie!".
    2. +3
      18 March 2022 19: 35
      Then they will begin to call for burning Ukrainians in furnaces. For heating. Fascism in Europe has not been eradicated. And these sheep from the square eat it all. Not realizing that they are just consumables. And nothing else.
    3. +1
      18 March 2022 19: 44
      Oh, and I already thought they didn’t notice something)
  16. 0
    18 March 2022 19: 23
    Each general has his own victories. And how to submit them so that the enemy does not guess, the Ukrainian general knows best.
  17. 0
    18 March 2022 19: 23
    The essence of the propaganda of Goebbels and Nazism is emotions!
    1. 0
      18 March 2022 20: 22
      Quote: Gardener91
      The essence of the propaganda of Goebbels and Nazism is emotions!

      But the Tavistock Institute thinks otherwise.
  18. +6
    18 March 2022 19: 31
    I hope the operation is not cancelled. I hope they add this mode. Kill this Nazi scum. Otherwise, why all this? A soldier was buried in Krasnoyarsk today. 20 years old. And all this abomination must be crushed. So that in the end it doesn’t turn out that he and people like him laid down their lives in vain. Because the politicians decided otherwise. It is good that Yeltsin is not in power now. And the new Swan, I hope, will not be found. To the fallen Light and Eternal memory. And eternal rest. And bow to you low, Guys.
  19. 0
    18 March 2022 20: 01
    On the left bank we have a small advance, but now we have liquidated it.

    Yes, he's just drunk! Dog! fellow laughing
  20. +2
    18 March 2022 20: 37
    Destruction of the positions of Ukrainian neo-Nazi fighters from Azov, who settled on the territory of the Azovstal plant in Mariupol
    https://vk.com/video251781107_456241480?list=eae445e3b364b1bd0e
    1. 0
      18 March 2022 21: 58
      yes, either foreign mercenaries filmed, or dill stoned, but ours burn notably !!!
  21. +1
    18 March 2022 21: 56
    Dictionary Russian-Ukrainian:
    Cat - Kit
    Popa - Dupa
    Lie - Tell the truth
  22. 0
    18 March 2022 22: 12
    According to Guzevich, Ukrainian troops "on the right bank of Kyiv" (that is, on the right bank of the Dnieper) were pushed back up to 70 km. "Of course, such a report can cause alarm among Russian users

    Whose the, suddenly, anxiety? Quite the opposite.
  23. 0
    18 March 2022 22: 57
    I don’t want a war in Kyiv, the 40s were enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I hope the Nazis go down in history
  24. 0
    19 March 2022 04: 10
    I ate bacon with vodka and suffered .... !!!
  25. 0
    19 March 2022 04: 33
    Well, I would say directly that the Armed Forces of Ukraine recklessly draped 70 km, in connection with which the Russian troops stopped in confusion and confusion 70 km from them ..
  26. 0
    19 March 2022 09: 03
    Well, in Berlin, as you know, there is a reystag, after the victory, the fighters of the Red Army signed on it.
    And in Kueva, apparently, you will have to sign on the building of the Rada.
  27. 0
    19 March 2022 09: 33
    On the left bank we have a small advance, but now we have liquidated it.

    Catch the addict!
  28. 0
    20 March 2022 01: 23
    Tired of winning.
  29. mva
    0
    21 March 2022 15: 32
    The White Church flashed in the reports of hostilities on both sides, so your statement, dear author, is at least debatable.