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Zelensky called positions in negotiations with Russia more realistic

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At the talks with Russia, the positions of both delegations became more realistic. This was stated by the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky. As the head of the Kiev regime noted, commenting on the negotiations with Russia, "it's hard, but important."


As Zelensky said, now it is important that everyone works in their place, and this statement also applies to the participants in the negotiation process. According to Zelensky, now the positions of the parties sound more realistic than before.

But it will take some time for decisions to be made in the interests of Ukraine, not Russia.

How Zelensky imagines it - the results of the negotiations without taking into account the interests of Russia, he did not explain.

Zelensky's deputy chief of staff, Igor Zhovkva, said earlier that the talks should be followed by a meeting between the President of Ukraine and Vladimir Putin, with the participation of international leaders. The most important result of the negotiations should be a ceasefire and a truce.

However, Zelensky's office announced unacceptable territorial claims. But this statement nullifies the prospects for a compromise, since the recognition of Crimea as Russian, and the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics as sovereign is one of Moscow's main demands in the negotiations.
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  1. Orange bigg
    Orange bigg 16 March 2022 08: 32
    +23
    What kind of negotiations are we talking about?
    1. keeper03
      keeper03 16 March 2022 08: 40
      +17
      Only all the Nazis to the scrap, to the end !!! am angry soldier
      1. Murmur 55
        Murmur 55 16 March 2022 08: 48
        +2
        keeper03 hi, it won’t work for everyone, even the USSR didn’t clean everyone up, and there the measures and methods were more effective.
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 16 March 2022 09: 47
          +2
          The most important result of the negotiations should be a ceasefire and a truce.
          Everything, Zelya began to confuse soft with warm, a call to the doctors. To ban sniffing, not to give 100 gr and to eternal duty officers in the basement.
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 16 March 2022 10: 30
            +1
            Quote: NIKNN
            The most important result of the negotiations should be a ceasefire and a truce.
            Everything, Zelya began to confuse soft with warm

            No, the main thing for Zelensky
            should be followed by a meeting of the President of Ukraine with Vladimir Putin

            And everything else doesn't matter
        2. Lionnvrsk
          Lionnvrsk 16 March 2022 14: 25
          +1
          How Zelensky imagines it - the results of the negotiations without taking into account the interests of Russia, he did not explain.

          It was already like this - “Give scum any promises, and we will hang them later” No.
      2. Machito
        Machito 16 March 2022 09: 46
        +3
        And what will the meeting between Zelensky and Putin look like? Zelensky in a striped robe crawls on his knees in front of the GDP and shits under himself out of fear? am
      3. Hiller
        Hiller 16 March 2022 13: 00
        +2
        There are NO negotiations with the Nazis, only for scrap. Speak only with friendly authority! Clown in the scrap!
    2. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 16 March 2022 08: 41
      +4
      the drug addict is delirious ... no matter how an overdose happens.
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 16 March 2022 08: 45
        +13
        He is dragging on time. Even the Americans are surprised that we have not yet completed the special operation. And this is all because of our too idealistic ideas about the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who, in turn, do not disdain to hit Tochka-U in cassette performance in the center of Donetsk. They gave them time mobilize, come to your senses. Everyone naively expected that someone would give up, and now all this can drag on for months.
      2. Carat
        Carat 16 March 2022 08: 56
        +3
        Quote: Aerodrome
        the drug addict is delirious ... no matter how an overdose happens.


        Do you feel sorry for this drug addict? For me, let the flippers stick together from an overdose.
    3. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 16 March 2022 08: 43
      +7
      Quote: OrangeBigg
      What kind of negotiations are we talking about?

      Only about unconditional surrender
    4. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 16 March 2022 08: 46
      -3
      hi Well, what are they going on, what they are talking about is not clear, if the positions are diametrically opposed, there is enough fog, both sides are encrypted in detail, but each declares that they will not betray their interests.
    5. usr01
      usr01 16 March 2022 09: 02
      +1
      Quote: OrangeBigg
      about what negotiations

      - about surrender. And Zelya began to look at it "more realistically" ... wink
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 16 March 2022 09: 06
        +3
        It would be nice to have a land corridor to Crimea, and this is control over the territories of the Kherson, Zaporozhye regions and the DPR, LPR at least. I personally have no doubts that sooner or later Ukraine will climb to liberate Crimea. And this is essentially another Minsk, the result of which will be a new war with Ukraine in the future. It’s not to cut off the cat’s tail right away, we cut it in small pieces over a long period of time. But the fact is that we are winning now, and only God knows how the card will fall in the future. As they say, strike iron while it's hot.
        1. Alemax
          Alemax 16 March 2022 09: 32
          0
          Duc is already waiting for the message to be restored.
        2. usr01
          usr01 16 March 2022 09: 41
          +3
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          sooner or later Ukraine will climb

          Here is the task to there is nobody it was to climb - to close Ukraine, as an unsuccessful anti-Russian Polish project. And to develop older, more viable ones - Little Russia, Novorossia, and Slobozhanshchina for that matter ... Well, Galicia (to keep it with an iron fist, like the Poles)
    6. Maz
      Maz 16 March 2022 09: 37
      +1
      Zelya must be judged publicly and excuse me, hang publicly on the Maidan in Kyiv for war crimes against our own people and Russia
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 16 March 2022 09: 42
        +1
        Zelya is just a puppet, fulfilling the will of the Ukrainian oligarchy, ready for anything to preserve his power and his profits. All the bumps will fall on Ze for other people's crimes committed as if on his behalf, since he is the president, which means formally the main one and is responsible for everything .
    7. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 16 March 2022 10: 43
      +2
      Quote: OrangeBigg
      what kind of negotiations can be discussed?

      Alternatively:
  2. Evil 55
    Evil 55 16 March 2022 08: 36
    +4
    No time. It is necessary to complete the operation, at least in Lvov ... In a month, winter crops will rise .. And if you do not remove and re-sow, then hunger will definitely come to Europe ..
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 16 March 2022 08: 44
      +1
      One of the factors that determined the start date of the special operation smile
      1. Evil 55
        Evil 55 16 March 2022 08: 46
        -7
        Of course .. GDP is a literate person who subtly feels the needs of Geyrobey little men for warmth and nutrition ..
    2. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 16 March 2022 08: 44
      +5
      Quote: Angry 55
      And if you do not remove and re-sow, then hunger will definitely come to Europe ..

      And these will be our sanctions
    3. mark1
      mark1 16 March 2022 08: 47
      +6
      Quote: Angry 55
      And if you do not remove and re-sow, then hunger will definitely come to Europe ..

      What is sadness to you? No one in Europe laments about the hardships of the Russians.
    4. Egoza
      Egoza 16 March 2022 08: 50
      +6
      Europe doesn't bother me much. But the Rusyns of Transcarpathia turned directly to Putin ...
      The Rusyns officially supported the position of the Russian leadership on Ukraine.
      In the context of forcing Ukraine to peace and the federalization of the lands, we propose to transform western Ukraine into Carpathian Rus on the Rights, Mandates, Titles of Rusyns.
      If Western Ukraine remains in the form in which it is now, then in question:

      — national security strategy of the Russian Federation;
      - Russophobia;
      - elimination of the source of international terrorism;

      — debanderization, denazification;
      - an outpost in the west of Russia, which it has been for more than 1200 years.
      We hope that the solution of these issues through the Carpathian Rust will organically fit into the National Security Strategy of the Russian Federation.
      Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1647348538
      1. Carat
        Carat 16 March 2022 09: 09
        +5
        Quote: Egoza
        Europe doesn't bother me much. But the Rusyns of Transcarpathia turned directly to Putin ..


        The Transcarpathian region is the only region in Western Ukraine that is pro-Russian.
    5. Carat
      Carat 16 March 2022 08: 59
      +3
      Quote: Angry 55
      In a month, winter crops will rise .. And if you do not remove and re-sow, then hunger will definitely come to Europe ..


      For me, on the contrary, it is necessary to create an artificial famine in Europe in order to feel the results of their sanctions.
    6. evgen1221
      evgen1221 16 March 2022 09: 16
      0
      But don’t we care what they start there, if they want to eat, let them give us their factories and technologies by barter, or feed on the air of freedom.
    7. Foul skeptic
      Foul skeptic 16 March 2022 09: 31
      0
      What is the famine in Europe? Why? They will simply stop throwing away those 30% of the products that were thrown away every year. Well, Africa will lose part of the humanitarian aid.
    8. Stepan S
      Stepan S 16 March 2022 09: 38
      +4
      Hunger may not come to Veropa. Food inflation, yes. And the third world countries, which are most dependent on supplies from Ukraine and Russia, will starve
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 16 March 2022 14: 41
        0
        . Hunger may not come to Veropa.

        Late. Already arrived.
        Export is prohibited, by the way, only to unfriendly 193 countries wassat
    9. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 16 March 2022 09: 45
      +2
      way to starve
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 16 March 2022 14: 42
        0
        And they have no choice.
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 16 March 2022 15: 46
          0
          will know how to put pressure on sanctions
        2. Carat
          Carat 16 March 2022 15: 46
          +1
          Quote: igorbrsv
          And they have no choice.


          There is always a choice.
  3. Elephant
    Elephant 16 March 2022 08: 36
    +8
    Nothing to negotiate with the ukrofascists
    1. Carat
      Carat 16 March 2022 09: 02
      +2
      Quote: Elephant
      Nothing to negotiate with the ukrofascists


      To agree only on the creation of humanitarian corridors for the civilian population in the besieged cities. For the rest, stand your ground.
  4. K-50
    K-50 16 March 2022 08: 37
    +5
    But it will take some time for decisions to be made in the interests of Ukraine, not Russia.

    Well, you can forget about ur cain in the light of current events. At least in this state. Even before the Maidan is no longer a "cake". Only the formatting and punishment of war criminals and those who gave them orders, plus, at a minimum, a truly neutral status.
    1. Luenkov
      Luenkov 16 March 2022 08: 46
      -1
      Land from Suvorov to neutral status?
    2. Evil 55
      Evil 55 16 March 2022 08: 48
      -1
      Ukraine, it’s precisely said, just in the light in the light of Zelya Bunkerovich’s amnesty for criminals and the uncontrolled distribution of weapons into stupid hands ..
      1. Evil 55
        Evil 55 16 March 2022 08: 48
        +1
        URKA-ina..
    3. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 16 March 2022 08: 51
      0
      K-50 hi, confuses the statement of our leaders that Russia is not going to change the regime, why lie? And if the regime is not changed, then they (Kyiv) will not change anything in their policy, which means everything is in vain.
      1. K-50
        K-50 16 March 2022 08: 55
        +1
        It is hard to say. So far, we can hear that the tasks set are being carried out in full. What is the result? The Future Will show. I hope by May 9 there will be another reason to celebrate the Victory over fascism and Nazism. hi
      2. Stepan S
        Stepan S 16 March 2022 09: 40
        0
        confuses the statement of our leaders that Russia is not going to change the regime

        It probably means that the people of Ukraine themselves must change the regime in order for it to be recognized by Europe. Europe has yet to restore Ukraine, and without recognition they will not do it.
  5. olhon
    olhon 16 March 2022 08: 40
    +1
    Surrender. That's all the negotiations.
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 16 March 2022 08: 45
      +2
      Quote: olhon
      Surrender.

      What is the unconditional
  6. Carat
    Carat 16 March 2022 08: 43
    +2
    since the recognition of Crimea as Russian, and the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics as sovereign is one of Moscow's main demands in the negotiations.


    It is necessary to include in the main demands a criminal trial of all leaders of the highest and middle levels of the Nazis. As well as all the Nazis on whom a case has been opened in the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 16 March 2022 09: 15
      +3
      Quote: Carat
      It is necessary to include in the main requirements the Criminal trial of all leaders of the highest and middle ranks of the Nazis

      But only no The Hague and the UN court, where the Yankees rule. To judge in Donetsk, Lugansk and Basmanny court.
      1. Carat
        Carat 16 March 2022 09: 27
        +1
        It goes without saying. In The Hague, the Americans are in charge.
      2. Stepan S
        Stepan S 16 March 2022 09: 40
        0
        and Basmanny Court.

        In Rostov, it now sounds more fashionable
  7. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 16 March 2022 08: 44
    0
    Yes, in the course of the "marathon" for this individual continues.
  8. Luenkov
    Luenkov 16 March 2022 08: 45
    -1
    "with the participation of international leaders"
    .. what's this? Heads of outposts or customs officers?
  9. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 16 March 2022 08: 45
    +1
    Zelya dreams under coke ... well, let her dream.
  10. comradChe
    comradChe 16 March 2022 08: 47
    0
    Is this a screen or another betrayal of the elites? If Abromovich's Portuguese mug was noticed during the negotiations, then the second option is being prepared for us. Look, Akela, this is the last jump for you, as well as for us.
  11. bar
    bar 16 March 2022 08: 47
    +8
    These fake negotiations only demoralize both the military and especially the civilians. In the liberated territories, the people continue to be afraid of the Nazis, expecting that they may return if Zelya agrees with Moscow. And all this is being fueled by our own State Duma deputies, who declare with a blue eye that the negotiations are progressing successfully. negative
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 16 March 2022 09: 08
      0
      Quote: bar
      These fake negotiations only demoralize both the military and especially the civilians.

      I think everything is clear and understandable

      “Negotiations, which are currently ongoing, to ensure the neutral military status of Ukraine in the context of security guarantees for all participants in this process, in the context of the demilitarization of Ukraine, so that no threats to Russia ever come from its territory, and in the context, of course, of the termination of the country's policy of nazification, which is enshrined in a number of legislative acts," Lavrov said.

      In particular, we are talking about the need to abolish "all discriminatory restrictions that have been imposed on the Russian language, Russian education, culture, Russian media," he added.

      Read more at RBC:
      https://www.rbc.ru/politics/15/03/2022/62307f049a7947e91064d227
      1. bar
        bar 16 March 2022 09: 49
        +1
        Quote: Flood
        said Lavrov

        Politicians should have spoken before. And when Shoigu started talking, it would be better for politicians to keep quiet. It is their turn to come after the signing of a complete surrender.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 16 March 2022 10: 15
          0
          Quote: bar
          when Shoigu began to speak, politicians had better be silent. It is their turn to come after the signing of a complete surrender.

          Lavrov listens to you?
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 16 March 2022 10: 52
      +2
      Quote: bar
      negotiations only demoralize and war

      The military has no time to reflect, because they are busy with business, and they are not diverted to every hat.
      Quote: bar
      and especially civilians.

      laughing Hysterical inhabitants, unable to analyze and filter information - that's how it is more true. yes
      1. bar
        bar 16 March 2022 13: 16
        0
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Hysterical inhabitants, unable to analyze and filter information - that's how it is more true.

        You, on your soft sofa and with the Internet, do not admit that in cities where hostilities are taking place, "hysterical inhabitants" in the basements may have problems not only with the analysis of information, but also with the information itself? After the end of hostilities, they need to somehow organize their lives there. And how exactly to organize it, if it is not clear what will happen next? And if they suddenly come to an agreement with Zelensky, as our negotiators together with Lavrov promise on TV? Our troops will leave, as from the same Kazakhstan, and the Nazis will return again? In such conditions, it is not surprising that our troops are met very wary, and not at all with bread and salt. And they are in no hurry to organize local government bodies.
  12. Prisoner
    Prisoner 16 March 2022 08: 50
    +1
    Read, they will flog Zeleboba not along, but across. The words of this clown are not even a penny, but many times cheaper.
  13. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 16 March 2022 08: 51
    +3
    Negotiations for the sake of negotiations, playing for the public. Real negotiations will begin after only Galicia remains from Ukraine, which will most likely enter both the EU and NATO, unless, of course, Poland and the Ugrian region) have their own vision on this matter ... By the way, these countries, together with Slovakia, are now showing enviable activity and even their rulers went on an excursion to Kyiv. I remind you that it is this trio that has no hidden territorial claims to Ukraine. So there are only two options, either Ukraine will be torn apart or yes Galicia, and maybe negotiations are going on today about this, who knows ...

    1. Flooding
      Flooding 16 March 2022 09: 03
      0
      What territorial claims does Slovakia have?
      You probably meant Romania.
      1. Dimon-chik-79
        Dimon-chik-79 27 March 2022 14: 06
        0
        By the way, Romania is unfairly not mentioned, it is almost on a par with Poland, it is very active in the claimed territories, although the opportunities are much less due to the weakness of the armed forces and the economy, but nevertheless. And Slovakia, as a component of Austria-Hungary with the same Hungary, has a territorial interest in Ukraine, maybe not as pronounced as in the Ugorshchina, but nonetheless, if Nezalezhnaya’s affairs go very badly and she begins to lose statehood, if Poland and Romania take some action, these two states will not stand aside.
  14. XNUMX%
    XNUMX% 16 March 2022 08: 56
    +1
    You are a piece of shit, there will be no decisions for you. The decisions have all been made long ago ... without you and your "negotiation" group. While degenerates, the countdown has been going on for a long time.
  15. cniza
    cniza 16 March 2022 08: 59
    +3
    But it will take some time for decisions to be made in the interests of Ukraine, not Russia.


    You stupid talker, you shouldn't have gotten into the wrong sleigh...
  16. lukewarm
    lukewarm 16 March 2022 09: 16
    +2
    Enough already to be humiliated by these negotiations! Who do we want to set in our favor? For all of us - the aggressors. And the fact that we were left with no other solution is not important. They all knew perfectly well when they gave a closed response to Putin's demands. After which it became inevitable what happened. Now any consideration of the interests of the 404th state is our defeat. Even if they accept the demands on the Crimea and the LDNR, so what? And why then stood at Kyiv? If we leave the statehood of this country, the West will rebuild it for us on the mountain. And in a few years, everything will have to be corrected with great bloodshed. What we did not do in the 14th, we do 8 years later in much worse conditions. So I think that the then delay and the current "negotiations" are not the real position of the country, but another concession to the pro-Western part of the "elite". Here we fight, but here we don't fight. That won't work. Sanctions have already been received and they will not be canceled. Only with us. So before whom do we bow down with these negotiations and for what?
  17. grau
    grau 16 March 2022 09: 17
    0
    We have Putin that a narcologist
  18. Sibguest
    Sibguest 16 March 2022 09: 19
    +1
    Looking at this one-celled thing, I am convinced of one thing - the bottom of human stupidity has not been reached.
    I propose to introduce a unit of measurement of human stupidity (for healthy people) - 1 green. But this is a very large unit, so you can also enter - 1 microgreen.
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 17 March 2022 07: 59
      0
      But what about the "dogs". :)))
  19. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 16 March 2022 09: 41
    +3
    He lies like he breathes. But realism has increased in the perception of the universe.
  20. Hagen
    Hagen 16 March 2022 09: 42
    +1
    According to Zelensky, now the positions of the parties sound more realistic than before.

    But it will take some time for decisions to be made in the interests of Ukraine, not Russia.

    The thought creeps in on me that someone else was running his business, but not himself. With this mindset, he cannot be a successful entrepreneur. Only a clown. In the profession of a mockingbird, all sorts of "illogisms" are very valuable, but in business one must be able to see possible compromises. And in any case, you should not voice your hidden stupidity. Although, on the other hand, the Ukrainian side has long shown its inability to conduct productive negotiations and to comply with the agreements reached, that this stupidity can no longer spoil anything. The reputation of Ukraine in the negotiation process is zero. It won't get any worse. request
  21. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 16 March 2022 10: 05
    +1
    The conversation is dumb with the deaf.
    We continue to calibrate.
  22. sifgame
    sifgame 16 March 2022 10: 12
    +2
    How is this in the interests of Ukraine? Russia leaves, restores everything at its own expense, gives the Kuban and the Rostov region. to all the dead and wounded Nazis and relatives of compensation? Or is it in the interests of Ukraine that Russia leaves Western Ukraine without its presence? Three non-rulers of the countries that decide nothing have brought a fresh batch of coke?
  23. lyrics
    lyrics 16 March 2022 10: 38
    +1
    Let the clown think that officials even reckon with him. Only unconditional surrender, the restoration of the national economy at the expense of the citizens of the former Ukraine and the most severe trial of war criminals, including the "Ukronazi with Jewish roots" himself, is some kind of surrealism, but it's true.
  24. iouris
    iouris 16 March 2022 10: 44
    0
    And the terrorist acts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the negotiations? But Medinsky and Co. handle them.
  25. Valery Volkov
    Valery Volkov 16 March 2022 11: 15
    +1
    Does anyone listen to him or is he broadcasting for his ... fellow citizens? Yes, this is for them, since for the rest he is a nobody and there is no way to call him.
  26. riwas
    riwas 16 March 2022 11: 28
    +3
    At the talks with Russia, the positions of both delegations became more realistic.

    You can't say the same about Ukraine. It requires the transfer of the entire liberated territory, including the entire territory of the LDNR, under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. So it's too early to talk about the termination of the special operation. We need a radical defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the national battalions.
  27. Fitter65
    Fitter65 16 March 2022 12: 32
    0
    At the talks with Russia, the positions of both delegations became more realistic.
    Moreover, Russia's position is becoming more and more realistic every day. Moreover, the reality is such that the closer to summer, the more realistic that the Ukrainian delegation will only have an L-shaped position ...
  28. antikilller55
    antikilller55 16 March 2022 14: 15
    +1
    the talks should be followed by a meeting between the President of Ukraine and Vladimir Putin, with the participation of international leaders. The most important result of the negotiations should be a ceasefire and a truce.
    And who are the international leaders? US or EU favorites? In 2014, these same leaders also gave guarantees to Yanukovych, and we know how it all ended. What can be negotiated with cocaine except for surrender and it can be accepted in the presence of the leaders of the CSTO countries.
  29. your vsr 66-67
    your vsr 66-67 17 March 2022 07: 45
    0
    Here's a scarecrow ze, he even took it into his head to dictate conditions! lol
  30. blackcat
    blackcat 17 March 2022 07: 47
    0
    The more boilers he has, the more realistic the prospect of negotiations
  31. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 17 March 2022 16: 34
    0
    I hope for at least 8 years he will be "dynamized" like he and Minsky.