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The Ukrainian grouping of troops near Donetsk continues to feel quite “at ease”

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The Ukrainian grouping of troops near Donetsk continues to feel quite “at ease”

With the active advance of Russian troops and the people's militia of the DPR and LPR to the borders of the republic, one should not forget about the centers of Ukrainian military activity on the so-called line of contact. We are talking about the line that was determined in 2014-2015, including after the Minsk agreements. In most areas, it has already been pushed back tens of kilometers to the west, up to the exit to the borders of the Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk and Kharkov regions. But there are links where the Ukrainian security forces continue to carry out shelling.


In particular, we are talking about the fortified area of ​​​​the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAvdeevka, Krasnogorovka and Pesok. At the initial stage of the special operation to liberate the territory of the republic, this direction of the DPR troops was left "without proper fire impact." First of all, this is precisely what makes it possible for the Ukrainian security forces to strike from various types of weapons in Donetsk and Gorlovka.

According to local residents, only today Ukrainian security forces carried out several attacks on the capital of the DPR. At the same time, a powerful explosion is also reported - “arrival” from Avdiivka. On the Telegram channel "The wrong side of the military commissar" there is a message that it could be a missile of the Ukrainian complex "Tochka-U". The interception of the missile took place near Shakhtyorsk.

So far, there is no official information about this. At the same time, it is known that the Ukrainian troops, whose positions actually go to the suburbs of Donetsk, feel relatively at ease. At the same time, the ring around them closes, and the ammunition, no matter how much it accumulates, cannot be endless. Although this can hardly be considered something of a consolation for the residents of Donetsk, who continue to experience daily blows from Ukrainian positions. It is important to understand that the grouping of Ukrainian security forces is gradually getting bogged down in the cauldron, which will become the third largest one in the Donbas today.

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  1. Fisherman
    Fisherman 12 March 2022 15: 22
    +29
    We do not have enough MTR for such a large country with 37 million people, to attack almost 350 armed fighters of all stripes. Therefore, we wet in parts, cutting off from fuel and lubricants and additional warehouses with ammunition. They brought a lot of ammunition to the East to start their offensive, enough for a long time, but without fuel and lubricants they will not last long, so time and hands with a gun will reach them. First, strategic directions and tasks, and then burn tactical boilers.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 12 March 2022 15: 28
      -16
      You are completely out of topic.
      Don't rush to comment.
      Read previous articles on the topic.
      Read the summaries, etc., etc.
      hi
      1. Fisherman
        Fisherman 12 March 2022 15: 42
        +9
        you are in vain focusing on other people's articles, this is an erroneous path and do not teach others your mistakes. Read reports from the field from both sides, draw your own conclusions, unless of course you have at least some strategic leadership experience in the Armed Forces and knowledge. If not, don't give empty advice.
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 12 March 2022 15: 40
      +30
      Of course, the counter-battery fight in the suburbs of Donetsk is not staged very well. It's time for our command to increase the fire impact on the positions of the Bandera bastards who are shelling the civilian population.
      1. Fisherman
        Fisherman 12 March 2022 15: 52
        +7
        here I AGREE ... it surprised me that our counter-battery was not closely engaged, since the experience is rich. Yes, and drones ... although we don’t have enough drones for the entire ruin.
      2. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 12 March 2022 16: 17
        +1
        If the mortar of these creatures is on the roof of a residential building or on a playground, where will we shoot?
        1. Olkhovsky
          Olkhovsky 12 March 2022 16: 28
          +7
          Alexander 3
          Today, 16: 17
          NEW

          0
          If the mortar of these creatures is on the roof of a residential building or on a playground, where will we shoot?

          The answer is obvious - with a mortar, wherever it stands. You have stupid questions and doubts.
          1. Alexander 3
            Alexander 3 12 March 2022 16: 46
            -10
            Do you think you need to shy away from Point U or just cover it with missiles. What is your slogan - the life of old people and children means nothing to you? Who are you?
            1. Olkhovsky
              Olkhovsky 13 March 2022 01: 12
              -7
              Do you think you need to shy away from Point U or just cover it with missiles. What is your slogan - the life of old people and children means nothing to you? Who are you

              I feel sorry for the elderly and children, but first of all, the life of our military is important to me.
              Who am I? Just a son of the Russian land. I'm not interested in asking about you.
            2. Barbulator
              Barbulator 13 March 2022 11: 23
              +5
              We don't have points! This junk has been used for a long time.
          2. dv_generalov
            dv_generalov 13 March 2022 21: 37
            +3
            Imagine that your family is in the building. Whereas, it’s at home in an armchair you can write like that, but what’s in place is a big question
            1. Olkhovsky
              Olkhovsky 14 March 2022 00: 58
              0
              Imagine that your family is in the building. Whereas, it’s at home in an armchair you can write like that, but what’s in place is a big question

              And imagine that from this building they are firing personally at you / your son / father / brother.
              And?
              1. dv_generalov
                dv_generalov 14 March 2022 11: 32
                0
                I can imagine, but I won’t do it ... Perhaps I became sentimental or aged ... Although at work I would do everything so that the fighters passed without incident
          3. Beregovic_1
            Beregovic_1 13 March 2022 21: 42
            +2
            Stop come on! I have an aunt and a sister there. And vushniki there without a fighting mood. They are waiting for the command to exit the boiler, mostly conscripts. They go to the store, buy an apple or an orange. Children, mother. They won't stand until the end. And on the other side, the same civilians live. No one writes about the losses of civilians on the other side, but they exist. It's all difficult, you have to be more careful in actions and in statements.
        2. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 12 March 2022 16: 58
          +6
          low-yield guided missiles of the Ptur type
        3. aglet
          aglet 12 March 2022 17: 01
          0
          "If these creatures have a mortar on the roof of a residential building or on a playground, where will we shoot?"
          and this mortar shoots at residential buildings and playgrounds. whose children are dearer, their own, or others? but one thing is clear - the "troops" of the LPR do not fight much, they were enough to somehow hold back the force when the north wind was blowing, but in the offensive somehow nothing. now, the barmaley are already waiting for reinforcement, and they are also warriors, wow. then they will also have to be caught along the forest belts
          1. Alexander 3
            Alexander 3 12 March 2022 17: 28
            0
            There are specialists in operations in residential areas. This war will show the true face of fascism. Germany has passed this period. After captivity, Wehrmacht soldiers who returned to Germany remember everything. They just nodded their heads, not applauded. Fascism in Germany is punishable.
        4. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 12 March 2022 20: 28
          +7
          Quote: Alexander 3
          If the mortar of these creatures is on the roof of a residential building or on a playground, where will we shoot?
          Maybe with such a flying AK ...
          The idea is - UAV (БezПhelot Лflying Аvtomat) detects militants sitting on the roofs - and shoots them from the air.
          The same is true for the calculations of mortars and guns in the courtyards of residential buildings - firing from a "flying AK" will not cause an explosive wave and fragments.
          soldier
          1. Igoresha
            Igoresha 13 March 2022 14: 43
            0
            yes .. because in Mariupol the floors are now being demolished from tank guns
          2. dv_generalov
            dv_generalov 13 March 2022 21: 39
            0
            Good humor
        5. storm
          storm 13 March 2022 05: 35
          +1
          You need to shoot at the playground, if there is enemy artillery, but only at night when there are no children nearby ....
          Targets can be illuminated either from UAVs or spotters from DRGs ....
          There, one battery of self-propelled guns with guided missiles, an Orlan-10 UAV and several DRGs with fire spotters are required.
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 14 March 2022 14: 53
            0
            What kind of children are on the playground, if there is a mortar or MLRS there? What kind of mother would lead her cubs there, to the sandbox? Night-day does not play a role. There are no children there, but there are Nazis. With mortar. But high-rise buildings are another matter.
      3. avdkrd
        avdkrd 14 March 2022 12: 09
        +1
        I do not agree. Counter-battery fight, set to the maximum. The problem is that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also not girls and national battalions, in addition to the fact that scumbags, without moral shores, have 7 years of experience and resources. As long as they have. Intelligence is not omnipotent, you just need to understand that on the other side, far from deer.
    3. zloybond
      zloybond 12 March 2022 18: 44
      +4
      Enough strength. Many units of the MTR remain in places of permanent deployment and are engaged in daily activities. Do not rush to be sad.
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 12 March 2022 20: 33
        0
        I think the more the Bandera people show their face, the less we will need to convince the people. The janitors who drive the Bandera people out of the courtyard of their house probably already understood everything.
      2. storm
        storm 13 March 2022 05: 38
        +3
        And does Russia really have so many units of the MTR that they are fighting in Syria, and in Ukraine, and even the places of permanent deployment are "cooling" :))
    4. Maz
      Maz 12 March 2022 21: 17
      +3
      Nothing, nothing - a grain of chicken, right now the volunteers from the Middle East will catch up, I will also come, again, my mother is there, we need to finish off these creatures, otherwise it’s a pity for young boys, but we have already lived, we need to help the Motherland in difficult times and the Russian Fatherland , it was not in vain that they took the oath for tea, and these cunningly crafted ones themselves will strangle themselves in their own intricacies.
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 12 March 2022 23: 22
        +7
        I have relatives from Uzhgorod to the Caucasus. My grandfather died for me. My grandfather died so that I could be born In the Caucasus, no one asks what nationality you are. JUDAS.
    5. sagitovich
      sagitovich 13 March 2022 01: 46
      0
      Why ruin the lives of our soldiers, waiting is the most acceptable tactic. Give up in 10-15 days.
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 12 March 2022 15: 23
    +7
    I hope that no one will wait until the ammunition really runs out there, otherwise to actually have a large enemy unit in the rear, especially with the OTP Point M in service, this is the likelihood of getting a strong blow in the back.
  3. host
    host 12 March 2022 15: 23
    +4
    On the video - "Krasnopol" 152mm. There are many places where it will have to be sent.
  4. sen
    sen 12 March 2022 15: 45
    +8
    At the initial stage of the special operation to liberate the territory of the republic, this direction of the DPR troops was left "without proper fire impact."

    So what's the problem? Gotta hit. We have an advantage in aviation, we must use it to the fullest.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 12 March 2022 16: 06
    +4
    The Ukrainian grouping of troops near Donetsk continues to feel quite “at ease”
    . There is a time for everything ... although for residents of neighboring territories of the republics, this is not at all a consolation.
    1. Silver Fox
      Silver Fox 12 March 2022 20: 24
      0
      Yes, there and now they are not sweet.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 March 2022 21: 47
        +2
        The problem will be solved, the wait is not long.
  6. Yak28
    Yak28 12 March 2022 16: 10
    +2
    Ukraine on the territory is not Iraq or Serbia, plus the goal is to minimize the loss of civilians, there are no carpet bombings and heavy shelling of cities by RZSO systems. Yes, and gangs of formation of Nazi drug addicts are not going to give up, since they are in any case death.
  7. czes
    czes 12 March 2022 16: 30
    +14
    What a strange war Why weren't they destroyed in the first place?
    1. Third district
      Third district 12 March 2022 17: 52
      +1
      Quote: czes
      What a strange war Why weren't they destroyed in the first place?

      They said from the very beginning that it would not work to take them head-on. Only the environment. Too much they strengthened near Avdeevka for 8 years. So we went first to the south, to take Mariupol. With aviation, too, something is not clear in this area, why they cannot mix all these fortifications with the ground. In my opinion, there is still quite a strong air defense there. After all, the Ukrainian army had a large number of S-300s.
      1. Sergey3
        Sergey3 12 March 2022 23: 24
        0
        Since you can’t take it head-on, so throw concrete-piercing bombs, they will come out themselves, whoever they can.
      2. garri-lin
        garri-lin 14 March 2022 08: 48
        +2
        There is a huge coking plant in Avdeevka. The basis of the economic stability of the region. No one will demolish it with shelling. They work precisely. Recently, aircraft suppressed artillery there. It's been quiet for a week. Now they are active again. They will push again. Donetsk is empty. Men in the ginseng field and children anywhere. The city suffers but there are few civilians there.
    2. sagitovich
      sagitovich 13 March 2022 01: 49
      +3
      Because there, the same as you and me... Just a little lost in life.
  8. svoit
    svoit 12 March 2022 16: 58
    +1
    Quote: czes
    What a strange war Why weren't they destroyed in the first place?

    The exact term, the position is the same as on the borders of Germany and France. Apparently they are still trying to comply with the Minsk agreements in the old fashioned way, in half the cases it is possible to destroy even with revenge and conventional power supplies, and another third with red field
  9. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 12 March 2022 17: 22
    +8
    On the Telegram channel "The wrong side of the military commissar" there is a message that it could be a missile of the Ukrainian complex "Tochka-U".

    The most elusive weapon of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there is only one missile brigade in the Armed Forces of Ukraine (with a dozen launchers), and OTRs keep flying and flying, provided that they have long past their service life ....
  10. Elephant
    Elephant 12 March 2022 20: 20
    +9
    Where are our attack drones capable of monitoring the territory for 24 hours and hitting hailstones and howitzers shelling Donetsk with planning bombs!?
  11. Silver Fox
    Silver Fox 12 March 2022 20: 22
    0
    If you can call it the word "freely"
    DPR army: enemy losses in the DPR - almost 2300 killed and wounded

    Since the beginning of the special military operation, the losses of the enemy amounted to:
    ➖95 odshbr - 75 servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed and 98 were wounded;
    ➖25 air brigade - 69 servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed and 97 were injured;
    ➖56 ompbr - 96 servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed and 125 wounded;
    ➖54 ombr - 132 servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed and 145 wounded;
    ➖53 ombr - 263 military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed, including the brigade commander, and 276 were injured;
    ➖36 military regiment - 235 servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed and 265 wounded;
    ➖12 OBR - 185 NGU soldiers were killed and 223 were wounded.
    1. yashka12007
      yashka12007 12 March 2022 21: 18
      -2
      2300 in three weeks, this is almost without loss, it’s good that they stopped publishing their losses, information about their losses has a negative impact on the population, but the enemy’s losses can be exaggerated, as Suvorov said, write more that you should feel sorry for these infidels.
      1. Silver Fox
        Silver Fox 12 March 2022 21: 22
        -2
        they have information on the DPR 80 dead
        1. stoqn477
          stoqn477 13 March 2022 01: 40
          +5
          Quote: Silver Fox
          they have information on the DPR 80 dead

          80 vs 2300. Long live optimism....
          1. Silver Fox
            Silver Fox 13 March 2022 10: 07
            -1
            So give me your numbers. your right not to trust the DNI. It's not hard to calculate.
  12. Sergey3
    Sergey3 12 March 2022 23: 22
    -2
    Honestly, I don’t understand this, in Syria, 1,5 ton bombs are being thrown in batches, not a single one has been thrown off here, maybe it’s enough to babysit the enemy, it’s time to embed them to the fullest.
  13. sagitovich
    sagitovich 13 March 2022 07: 20
    0
    Something I was stunned by the comments, "some in the forest, some for firewood," everyone knows how to do it, but no one is where it is necessary, they are talking nonsense, contradicting themselves. Be silent, don't upvote, don't downvote. Take the machine and show how it should be!
  14. Vasilich2217
    Vasilich2217 13 March 2022 08: 51
    0
    Powerful demonstration strikes paralyze the enemy's will to resist. The sooner this is over, the fewer victims. The law of war. And stop fighting by the rules and some principles. This is war. Then we'll talk about principles. After victory
  15. svoit
    svoit 13 March 2022 14: 41
    -2
    Quote: Elephant

    Where are our attack drones capable of monitoring the territory 24 hours
    probably almost all of them are in Syria, although the bulk of everything that could be returned there to Russia.
    80 people died in the DPR during the first week of the operation.
    Quote: Vasilich2217
    And stop fighting by the rules and some principles

    You are wrong, without the rules you will suffer unjustified losses and it’s good if you are not defeated, no matter what the rules are taught in the academies
  16. acetophenone
    acetophenone 13 March 2022 15: 27
    -1
    Quote: sagitovich
    Because there, the same as you and me... Just a little lost in life.

    So the nits Akhedzhakovichi climbed ...
    "Forgive us, ukrofascists!"
  17. cucun
    cucun 13 March 2022 21: 55
    +2
    What happened? After all, recently everyone was a normal virologist ...
  18. Havoc
    Havoc 13 March 2022 22: 29
    +1
    Quote: Beregovyhok_1
    Stop come on! I have an aunt and a sister there. And vushniki there without a fighting mood. They are waiting for the command to exit the boiler, mostly conscripts. They go to the store, buy an apple or an orange. Children, mother. They won't stand until the end. And on the other side, the same civilians live. No one writes about the losses of civilians on the other side, but they exist. It's all difficult, you have to be more careful in actions and in statements.

    But while they are standing, and I must admit, they are not bad. This once again confirms that we are one people. NATO fighters would have pissed off a long time ago.
  19. certero
    certero 14 March 2022 13: 00
    0
    Quote: Elephant
    Where are our attack drones capable of monitoring the territory for 24 hours and hitting hailstones and howitzers shelling Donetsk with planning bombs!?

    It's scary to say, but it looks like they just don't exist. The question remains why not buy Turkish bayraktars before the operation? they bought from us, so we would buy from them
    1. Repellent
      Repellent 14 March 2022 13: 07
      0
      Quote: certero
      That's what we would buy from them.

      Chertero, would you buy bucks next to the exchanger, around the corner?
  20. certero
    certero 14 March 2022 13: 09
    0
    Quote: Repellent
    Quote: certero
    That's what we would buy from them.

    Chertero, would you buy bucks next to the exchanger, around the corner?

    Why is your comparison incomprehensible? if you don’t have your own now, then you had to buy someone else’s. And save the lives of our soldiers.
    Speaking of bucks. Now you can’t buy cash anywhere in official exchangers, not bucks, not euros. Just around the corner
    1. Repellent
      Repellent 14 March 2022 13: 13
      0
      Quote: certero
      Now you can’t buy cash anywhere in official exchangers, not bucks, not euros. Just around the corner

      Well? I asked the question - are you ready to buy them, bucks, that is, under such conditions. I don't get a good answer.. laughing

      After your answer, we will be able to discuss the purchase of Bay Tractors in Turkey wink