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South Korea received from the United States the right not to request an American license to supply high-tech products to Russia

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Official Seoul announced the end of negotiations with the American side related to sanctions measures against Russia. Reports from the South Korean Ministry of Trade, Industry and Energy say that the South Korean side has been negotiating with the United States for a possible right to remove its companies from the so-called prohibition list. We are talking about a list of companies that was actually compiled in the United States and which were supposed to stop supplying certain products to the Russian Federation, primarily high-tech ones.


It is reported that Korean representatives succeeded in persuading Washington to remove South Korean companies from this list.

The Korean Ministry of Commerce and Energy reports that the American side, represented by the US Deputy Secretary of Commerce, has agreed to add the Republic of Korea to the list of countries for which an exception to the “foreign direct product rule” has been introduced.

In fact, the Americans forbade the export of products to Russia if the payment is in dollars or if these products contain American technology. To be able to carry out such exports, the country had to obtain an American license. If a country receives an exception from the United States, then it itself undertakes to support sanctions, but at the same time it can decide for itself what products it can supply to the Russian Federation. In fact, in such cases, verification by the United States of the implementation of sanctions becomes more formal.

There are currently 32 such countries. Among them are Australia, Britain, New Zealand, etc.

Earlier in Seoul, they said that the supply of household appliances and electronics to the Russian Federation would not be canceled, "since these products belong to goods for general civilian use."
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 4 March 2022 06: 47
    +12
    Some sort of semiconductor iron curtain is obtained, if you strongly ask. wink
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 4 March 2022 06: 51
      +15
      Business however. Koreans have a lot of factories in Russia. In Kaluga the same. It is clear that there is only an assembly of kits from Korea. But nonetheless...
      IMHO, they did not want to drain the Russian market to the Chinese, so they rushed off to beg for permission from the "hegemon". Maybe they were persuaded by the fact that they will kick back from deliveries and sales. Money. All because of money.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 4 March 2022 06: 54
        +5
        Quote: Nexcom
        Money. All because of money.

        And Russia should use this cynically! All the same, the negative post-Soviet experience is worth a lot. I am for the USSR-2, but the excessive good-heartedness of the lost USSR is useless.
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 4 March 2022 06: 59
          +1
          Yes, now, IMHO, it is still necessary to deal with many production and logistics things, the Europeans and the Yankees have destroyed a lot. And think about the people if in a normal way ....
          The people will be completely rotten now. My wife's salary was cut by 30% and we have two children. Rogozin also patriotically cut his salary by 30% for himself and his managers. But the difference is in the scale of salaries is probably obvious. If these 30% fie are for him, then these funds are not at all superfluous for us, especially on the scale of the rise in price.
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 4 March 2022 07: 05
            -1
            Quote: Nexcom
            Yes, now, IMHO, it is still necessary to deal with many production and logistics things, the Europeans and the Yankees have destroyed a lot.
            Regarding the restoration of sovereignty, Parshev clearly states that without autarky in the main positions of Russia there is nothing to catch.
            Quote: Nexcom
            My wife's salary was cut by 30% and we have two children. Rogozin also patriotically cut his salary by 30% for himself and his managers. But the difference is in the scale of salaries is probably obvious. If these 30% fie are for him, then these funds are not at all superfluous for us, especially on the scale of the rise in price.
            Yes, you also know not a very rosy mood.
            But I think the nationalization of the Central Bank and pushing "particularly effective" from there can solve some of the problems. But I am an optimist.
            1. Nexcom
              Nexcom 4 March 2022 07: 12
              0
              Unfortunately, so far there is not much reason for optimism. Traders - very angry at the Guarantor. He broke them all.
              Yesterday I had a chance to talk with the owner of the cafe. Angry. And he angrily declares that you will all pay for the price increase: I will have to buy products more, pay for everything - and you will pay more for what I sell - I will also raise prices for everything. I, grit, do not intend to reduce my standard of living. Me, grit, still excuse my son from the army. That's the attitude, that attitude....

              How to change something for the better here with such people?
              1. Lech from Android.
                Lech from Android. 4 March 2022 07: 15
                +2
                Well, it’s easy to crush such people with unscheduled checks ... of course they will hiss.
                1. Nexcom
                  Nexcom 4 March 2022 07: 16
                  +1
                  Duc Garant seems to have forbidden now to nightmare "small business" with checks for no reason. and almost all of them are.
                2. A_Mazkov
                  A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 07: 33
                  -10
                  Aha! Press down.
                  Such as this aunt officially dissolves, and a black market will arise, where there will be the same coffee, but in general for fabulous money. Naturally, the local authorities will protect the whole thing for a considerable bribe.
                  We have already gone through all this.
                  1. Nexcom
                    Nexcom 4 March 2022 07: 38
                    +2
                    And they are already roofing her - she boasted that if anything - she would solve the problem, there are connections.
                    1. A_Mazkov
                      A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 07: 46
                      -6
                      Well, you see.
                      The purchase price of coffee rose.
                      Shipping costs have gone up.
                      You also need to bring in for the roofing.
                      And also the rate of profit must be increased, since the cost of the aunts also increased.
                      It is logical that under such conditions the cost of coffee has increased.
                      Actually, now it has grown, and the cost of everything, both coffee and toilet paper, and cars, will also grow.
                      Be glad that it, this is coffee, in general, there are also products that are not on the cards!
                      1. Nexcom
                        Nexcom 4 March 2022 07: 47
                        +4
                        We rejoice. How long will the joy last?
                      2. A_Mazkov
                        A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 07: 51
                        -3
                        Quote: Nexcom
                        We rejoice. How long will the joy last?

                        I don't understand, is it you?
                        I’m just against both price increases and the black market, and I just don’t feel any joy.
                        But war is an expensive business, and the end consumer will naturally pay for it out of his own pocket.
                      3. Vadim237
                        Vadim237 4 March 2022 12: 28
                        -4
                        If the sanctions are not lifted, you will have to "rejoice" at the new socio-economic conditions in Russia for a long time.
                  2. Nastia makarova
                    Nastia makarova 4 March 2022 08: 25
                    -1
                    no one will buy from her, she herself will go broke
                    1. A_Mazkov
                      A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 08: 34
                      -3
                      Yes, as an option.
                      In fact, you can refuse coffee.
                      We will look at the prices of tea and potatoes (or buckwheat).
                      And it's too early to draw long-term conclusions. In a month or two it will become more or less clear whether we can afford this coffee, and tea at the same time.
                    2. Nexcom
                      Nexcom 4 March 2022 08: 47
                      0
                      Y-yes, in a month or two it will be clear.
                      Only it is not clear how visitors will understand that it is not worth buying coffee from that merchant - she does not voice her position on certain issues to each visitor.
                      1. -Paul-
                        -Paul- 4 March 2022 08: 58
                        +3
                        By prices. Since she raises the cost, she will drink less coffee.
                      2. Nexcom
                        Nexcom 4 March 2022 08: 59
                        +2
                        Ahh, that's it. This is understandable. Nafik a cup of coffee for the price of a "submarine".
                  3. Vladimir_2U
                    Vladimir_2U 4 March 2022 08: 28
                    +3
                    Quote: A_Mazkov
                    Such as this aunt officially dissolves, and a black market will arise, where there will be the same coffee, but in general for fabulous money.

                    You passed, yeah, on a solid deuce! The black market arises either when a product is banned, or when it is rationed!
                    1. A_Mazkov
                      A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 08: 44
                      -6
                      Not only! When you try to crush someone (this was originally discussed), this someone can completely dissolve with the same bags of coffee.
                      And actually, nothing has passed since the beginning of the operation. Perhaps we will live to see rationing.

                      The most logical thing now is to sit on the priest evenly, pick your nose, and watch the development of events.
              2. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U 4 March 2022 07: 15
                +4
                Quote: Nexcom
                Yesterday I had a chance to talk with the owner of the cafe. Angry.

                And how angry the artists of the Bolshoi and Maly theaters are. But it is quite possible to live without cafes and theaters. And phones out, Yu.K. quite provide, for the first time.
                1. Nexcom
                  Nexcom 4 March 2022 07: 20
                  +9
                  You are absolutely right Vladimir. One can live without all this "attribute of a well-fed life". Worse than the other - it is these little people that make up the fifth column in the rear. They have their own pocket and a used foreign car as a symbol of prosperity - the closest. They don't care about the country. As she told me - if they start to put pressure on me - I'll fall out of the rashka. And I will do business there. That's their whole approach. Over all these years, such a stratum of the population has formed which does not care about the country from a high tower - the main thing is to eat hearty and sleep sweetly. Everything else is secondary or even completely unimportant.
                  1. GUSAR
                    GUSAR 4 March 2022 08: 41
                    +5
                    “I’ll quit and do business there. Yeah, right now! Just like that, he’ll come abroad and open his own business there. What kind? I see many such "dumpers" who have been "dumped" for years, or even more.
                    1. Nexcom
                      Nexcom 4 March 2022 08: 53
                      +1
                      Well, let's put it this way, it's pretty clear that manna from heaven won't break off for her either. again, there, God forbid, there will not be enough coffee or something else, according to the Soviet (NOT SOVIET - this is different) habit, it will cheat and that's it. She will be quickly ruined there for this. I myself watched as a German in a Turkish coffee shop was compensated for not refilling his coffee. The Turk apologized for a long time, refilled his coffee and gave a freebie a cookie to hush up the incident.
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              4. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 4 March 2022 09: 51
                +2
                Quote: Nexcom
                . Traders - very angry at the Guarantor. He broke them all.
                Yesterday I had a chance to talk with the owner of the cafe.

                Oh, those poor, unfortunate hucksters.... crying
                Quote: Nexcom
                That's the attitude, that attitude....

                A normal mood for this audience and the same normal approach - all this husk has a special huckster mentality.
              5. sharp-lad
                sharp-lad 4 March 2022 22: 52
                0
                If you yourself do not work in this cafe, then simply refuse to appear in it. Yes, advise family and friends. hi
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 4 March 2022 07: 31
        -3
        China needs to put pressure on the Russian market, Korea and corporations are all under the United States. And Europe was put on the opus.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 4 March 2022 12: 30
          0
          Russia will now depend even more heavily on supplies from China.
      3. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 4 March 2022 07: 37
        +7
        Quote: Nexcom
        Business however.

        All of Europe to trade with Russia nizya-i-i and the South Caucasus, it turns out, zya-i-i. Negotiations were held - and all. ... And what, so it was possible?!
        So, really, looking at everything that is happening, the Europeans do not understand that they have been brazenly and cynically moved in the Russian markets. Oh well. Let's keep moving in the same direction. (Quote from the statements of S.V. Lavrov).
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 4 March 2022 22: 53
          0
          Are the colonies allowed to decide for themselves?!
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 4 March 2022 07: 07
      +9
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Some kind of semiconductor iron curtain is obtained if you strongly ask

      Well, that's all formed by itself. And the people began to panic that we would be left without telephones and televisions.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 4 March 2022 07: 16
        +1
        people began to panic that we would be left without telephones and televisions.

        But what about ... they encroach on the sacred. what
        People got hooked on a needle in the form of the Internet... the strongest drug.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 4 March 2022 07: 25
          +2
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          people began to panic that we would be left without telephones and televisions.

          And how they encroach on the sacred. what

          I have a Samsung smartphone 10 years old. Was bought for three thousand of our native rubles. He works, he allows you to call, sometimes he takes pictures. And I live somehow calmly without iPhones.
          For young animals, this is "holy" - show-offs of pure water. Any thing, first of all, should be functional. And then it’s fashionable, modern, and what else of the show-offs they have ... I have a ten-year-old Samsung that is completely functional. Works like a phone. From applications - alarm clock, timer and 2GIS. There is no Internet. And why do I need an iPhone, which doesn’t even have its own “brains” - everything is stored in the “cloud”?
          1. Nexcom
            Nexcom 4 March 2022 07: 30
            +6
            You are not the only one who can safely do without iPhones. But a generation has already formed for which life without an iPhone and Instagram is not life. Although it would be more correct to say that the West managed to form such a generation in our country.
          2. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 4 March 2022 07: 30
            +4
            I use my smartphone as a map and a reference book and use the mail if I need to urgently transfer something ... and I fight with him with Bandera from my sofa ... a useful and necessary thing. smile
            All the same, progress is necessary in communication between people.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 4 March 2022 07: 37
              +3
              Quote: Lech from Android.
              I use my smartphone as a map and a reference book, and I also use mail if something needs to be urgently transferred ... and I fight with him with Bandera from my sofa ...


              I want to,
              to the bayonet
              equated pen.
              With cast iron
              and with steel dressing
              about the work of poetry,
              from the Politburo
              to do
              Stalin reports.
              drinks
            2. Nexcom
              Nexcom 4 March 2022 07: 37
              +3
              I also use it on business - I have a periodic table there and other things for work. I don’t give a damn about the camera - except that I take pictures of ads so that I can use them later or something else - on business. And not for instagram stories to sculpt. That's from the fact that many have made these stories the meaning of their lives - it pulls to burp. Exhibitionism is some kind of Internet.

              Threat already even in some newspapers they write - here, the star has updated the story, the pictures are cool, etc. It is imposed as a way of life. The good news is that not everyone has yet "went" on this.
          3. A_Mazkov
            A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 07: 37
            -10
            That is why in our country there will be no Apples, Samsungs, and even Huaweis or ZTEs.
            And why, if at the beginning of the 21st century there are a lot of people ready to live like at the beginning of the 20th!
            laughing
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 4 March 2022 07: 48
              +5
              Quote: A_Mazkov
              Why, if at the beginning of the 21st century there are a lot of people who are ready to live like at the beginning of the 20th?

              I just want to LIVE, and not burn my life, chasing the latest trendy toy.
              My three-ruble Samsung receives calls worse than an iPhone? Financially, I can afford almost any smartphone (well, with the exception of some unique ones sprinkled with diamonds). But why do I need a phone for 100+ kilorubles, if mine for a triplet works ABSOLUTELY THE SAME. Okay. Not at all how Samsung smartphones worked "at the beginning of the 20th century." laughing

              And you, youngsters, work hard for days at McDonald's and Auchan, take out loans to live in a rented "one-room apartment" to hell on the horns, drive a credit "Logan", but with an iPhone ..... laughing
              1. A_Mazkov
                A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 08: 02
                -5
                As for the youth - thanks! We seem to consider young people under 30 years old, so it's nice.
                About phones:
                10 year old Samsung since the modern Internet will not catch. Perhaps you don’t need high speed at work, but someone needs 4G to quickly transfer large files.
                And in the world, imagine, they are already switching to 5G (although there are problems there).
                Although, I will reassure you. Since cellular communication equipment is expensive, and components for it are not produced in Russia, it is possible that in the future your 10-year-old Samsung will become a brick.
                PS: I don't have an iPhone and I don't have a TV either. hi
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 4 March 2022 08: 20
                  +2
                  Quote: A_Mazkov
                  About phones:
                  10 year old Samsung since the modern Internet will not catch. Perhaps you don’t need high speed at work, but someone needs 4G to quickly transfer large files.
                  And in the world, imagine, they are already switching to 5G

                  Both 4G and 5G don't care for me, since there is a computer at work in the office, there is a computer at home. And 30 minutes on the road, I somehow survive without the Internet.
                  To send large files, I have a secretary and five sensible deputies, each of whom also has a secretary.
                  PS Who studied what. hi
                  1. A_Mazkov
                    A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 08: 51
                    -6
                    Do you have computers, of course, "Made in Russia"?
                    By the way, about the Internet: there are nameplates of Russian companies on network equipment, but don’t flatter yourself too much, the inside is not fastened there.
                    1. Zoldat_A
                      Zoldat_A 4 March 2022 11: 44
                      +2
                      Quote: A_Mazkov
                      Do you have computers, of course, "Made in Russia"?
                      By the way, about the Internet: there are nameplates of Russian companies on network equipment, but don’t flatter yourself too much, the inside is not fastened there.

                      I know exactly what is inside computers and inside network equipment.
                      Only about a year and a half ago I updated the entire computer park in the company, up to printers. Office machines are not a gambling monster. I think that the West will get tired of counting losses from sanctions much faster than I will have to change computers in the company again. And inside, of course, is not (as you put it) "Made in Russia", but China, which has already become familiar.
                      And I prefer Cisco network equipment. Inside, you will be surprised - all the same China. I dismantled a couple of routers at my leisure, I was stunned myself.
                      1. A_Mazkov
                        A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 12: 17
                        0
                        Only about a year and a half ago I updated the entire computer park in the company, up to printers.

                        You did it right! Hold on for three years! good
                2. Nexcom
                  Nexcom 4 March 2022 08: 57
                  +1
                  a long time ago, many mobile operators switched to Chinese duplicates of equipment for cellular communications. used to sit on Siemens. I know this for sure, a friend worked there (in Megafon-Ural). And somehow the collapse of the connection is not observed.
                  The equipment has recently been upgraded. And also in Chinese.
                  1. A_Mazkov
                    A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 09: 32
                    -8
                    The equipment has recently been upgraded. And also in Chinese.

                    That is, we do not like Europe and the USA with Japan, let China now dictate the terms to us? what
                    It's funny laughing
                    1. musketon64
                      musketon64 4 March 2022 14: 18
                      0
                      That is, we do not like Europe and the USA with Japan, let China now dictate the terms to us? what

                      China dictates to ANYONE, NOTHING. They have only business and nothing personal and political. Even the UN sanctions are on the side of the Chinese, when they trade military technologies with Iran and buy oil from them. And Russia will be sold everything they have to offer. All transactions will pass by and not transparent to Western payment systems in national currencies.
                3. Paranoid50
                  Paranoid50 4 March 2022 09: 55
                  +4
                  Quote: A_Mazkov
                  We seem to consider young people under the age of 30, so it's nice.

                  Oh, Antosha, yes, you need to cry here - the body is over thirty, and the brain is like a shell ... yes crying wassat
                  1. A_Mazkov
                    A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 09: 56
                    -8
                    BEIJING, March 3. /TASS/. The Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) has suspended projects related to the Russian Federation and Belarus due to military operations in Ukraine. This is stated in a statement published on Thursday on the website of the financial institution.
                    On this topic
                    Military operation in Ukraine. Chronicle of events March 3, 2022
                    Military operation in Ukraine.
                    "The AIIB thinks of everyone affected by the war in Ukraine and expresses its sympathy," it says. "The management [of the bank] has decided that all activities related to Russia and Belarus are suspended and are under consideration."

                    You can already start crying! hi
          4. -Paul-
            -Paul- 4 March 2022 09: 01
            0
            The battery has already become bad, and so I have the same ancient machine.
          5. Egg
            Egg 4 March 2022 13: 24
            +1
            Ой ладно звиздеть то... а че не с 1993 года телефон то?
            10 years ago, phones had 1, well, a maximum of 2 gigs of RAM, and most of them had 0,5 in general. Modern firmware on such an amount of RAM will work if it does so in strobe mode with a frequency of 1 glare per 10 minutes. I changed my 5-year-old this year, despite its 2 gigabytes of RAM, it was constantly busy at least 1,7. And is it a 10-year-old phone .... or do you have a push-button phone? laughing
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 5 March 2022 00: 10
              0
              Quote: Telur
              And is it a 10-year-old phone .... or do you have a push-button phone?

              Yep, button. With one button. And how much RAM he has - I somehow don't care. There is no Internet on it, all the more so I don’t play toys and I don’t watch movies on it.
              IT'S JUST A PHONE. To call. Do you know - so "ring-ring-Hello"? And to be able to call me. For everything else, computers were invented, and I’m not such a computer addict killed on my head that I can’t live for half an hour on the way from home to work without the Internet and likes on social networks.

              Samsung GT-S7262
              With how much time I spend at construction sites, as well as fishing and hunting, I would also buy Nokia 3310. The thing is completely indestructible. Only they are no longer even in the "flea markets".

              And whoever doesn’t like it, cry that they imposed sanctions on us and now we won’t have iPhones.
          6. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 4 March 2022 23: 02
            +1
            "Cloud" is a thing! He warned the missus not to mess with him ..... Well, a woman is a woman. I gave her money for a new one, and the old one was kept in case. And suddenly mine "covered", well, I took it, inserted my SIM card and .... from the "cloud" I received the entire catalog of numbers and all correspondence in all places of my dear with constant updates! THIS was a thrill!
    3. syndicalist
      syndicalist 4 March 2022 07: 16
      +4
      Well, this is exactly according to Lenin: "The capitalists will sell us a rope on which we will hang them"
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 4 March 2022 07: 18
        +5
        Quote: syndicalist
        Well, this is exactly according to Lenin: "The capitalists will sell us a rope on which we will hang them"
        And a phone that we use to make fun of them. hi
        1. A_Mazkov
          A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 09: 34
          -5
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          Quote: syndicalist
          Well, this is exactly according to Lenin: "The capitalists will sell us a rope on which we will hang them"
          And a phone that we use to make fun of them. hi

          But everything is twice the price! laughing
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 4 March 2022 09: 36
            0
            Quote: A_Mazkov
            But everything is twice the price!

            What do the Chinese have?
            1. A_Mazkov
              A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 09: 43
              -2
              The Chinese sold cheaper, as long as there were other, non-Chinese brands on our market.
              Now everything has changed somewhat, so "yes", the Chinese will sell both the rope and the telephone, but at a high price! sad
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U 4 March 2022 09: 54
                0
                Quote: A_Mazkov
                The Chinese sold cheaper, as long as there were other, non-Chinese brands on our market.
                Now everything has changed somewhat, so "yes", the Chinese will sell both the rope and the telephone, but at a high price!

                What is written in the article, is it completely sideways for you? Well, there is about allowing Korea to trade in Russia, all that ...
                1. A_Mazkov
                  A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 10: 04
                  0
                  No, not on the side.
                  Korean cars will be better in quality than Chinese ones. Although, the Chinese have recently also "pulled themselves up" ...
                  The question is the price of these very "phones and ropes".
    4. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 4 March 2022 09: 38
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Some sort of semiconductor iron curtain is obtained, if you strongly ask. wink

      Like in a joke:
      - So, red fox, I open my notebook and write down: "Red fox, one thing." Come to my place for dinner tonight and I'll eat you. Understandably?
      - Understandably.
      - Any questions?
      “No,” the fox sighed sadly and left doomed. The dragon also went his own way and met a hare.

      - So, oblique, I open my notebook and write down: "oblique hare, one thing." Come to my place for dinner tonight and I'll eat you. Understandably?
      - Understandably.
      - Any questions?
      - There is.
      — Ask!
      - Can I not come?
      - Can. You-black-ki-va-yu!

      Wrong dragon went, already toothless.
  2. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 4 March 2022 06: 50
    +3
    It’s interesting if Eun (the leader of North Korea) decides to “ask” for something from the mattresses ... where will the next rocket be fired belay ??
    Incredible humiliation of their own country, South Koreans - where is your dignity?
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 4 March 2022 06: 55
      +4
      Dear and Prospective First Comrade Eun - the Hope of the entire Korean People, is unlikely to beg for something from the Yankees. No matter how hard it is for them there, they will not humiliate themselves, unlike the South Koreans and other vassals of the "hegemon".
      1. A_Mazkov
        A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 09: 41
        -3
        Of course they won’t.
        They have been living like this for 70 years.
        Pyongyang, July 11 (Xinhua) -- The DPRK has made great strides in the humanitarian field, but it still faces many challenges. The United Nations Organization (UN) will provide this country with more humanitarian aid. This was announced on Wednesday by UN Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs Mark Lowcock. He made a statement at a briefing by the Office of the United Nations Development Program (UNDP) in Pyongyang.

        In short, they are so good!

        Do you want to be like in North Korea?
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 4 March 2022 06: 52
    +10
    Sanctions against Russia are forever. Therefore, you need to strongly "slam the door" and withdraw from the WTO, and the IMF is a must! And, against countries that have imposed sanctions, introduce a response in the form of protective duties on their products in the amount of 500 percent of the value of the goods. Sooner or later, many will come running to trade with Russia, and now we need to firmly put them in their place! And, by ourselves, we must begin to truly import the devices, equipment, electronics we need, and most importantly, microelectronics.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 4 March 2022 07: 06
      +3
      I have already written about this and will repeat. In order to replace - you need research and development. We have a lot of foreign equipment in science - they have no domestic analogues. Now there will be no spare parts for them and consumables - what will we conduct research on? Well, for 5 years these devices will last as they are. So? A vicious circle in some way turns out. It was decided to rapidly support the IT region at the State level. What about research? They themselves tryndyat about the need for development to replace the Western one, but after all, these developments cannot be carried out with bare hands - an instrumental research base is needed. Of course, there is an option - to buy Chinese copies of spare parts, but you know, don’t plug a Chinese board into the TV, where manufacturing accuracy is very important and quality. The Chinese are not close to this yet.
      1. frei67
        frei67 4 March 2022 07: 30
        +1
        From my bell tower, I think that the question is not in the ability or inability of ours to do something, but in expediency. Well, our electronic products will lag behind for the first generation two. The question is cost. Well, the business will not invest in a long time if it cannot compete on price, but it cannot
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 March 2022 12: 47
        -5
        First of all, in all areas it is necessary to create a purely own school of production of means of production in all spheres, but at the moment Russia is bad with these, to put it mildly - as an example, we have no one involved in the development and production of lithographic equipment, that is, microprocessors using technology 65, 45 , 40, 28, 16, 14, 10, 7 nm we cannot produce. And it is not realistic to create this school in 10 years, it takes decades. And now, without cooperation, modern competitive products that will meet the requirements of today and tomorrow and at an affordable price will be very difficult and often simply impossible to create - the USSR as a vivid example and Russia, in fact, is returning to this again - a slow but sure lag in almost everything from the West mechanical engineering microelectronics machine tool building instrumentation civil consumer goods and so on.
    2. igork735
      igork735 4 March 2022 10: 19
      -3
      We have been import substituting since 2014. "And things are still there"
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 March 2022 12: 49
        -2
        It is simply unrealistic to replace everything with imports.
  4. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 4 March 2022 07: 15
    +3
    I'm really bad at "high-tech electronics", but maybe there are those who will tell you what it is about? What does the national economy and industry require (and cannot be replaced) by technologies of 15-20 years ago? As far as I understand, ultra-modern processors consider "faster" and are able to do this not only due to the higher speeds of performing similar operations compared to the "old" ones, but also due to the fact that they do it in fewer cycles. But there are not so many areas in industry and the national economy where it is critical to receive data at high speeds. Yes, I agree, there are places where the speed of calculations is critical, but there are few such areas. So, in my opinion, in principle, the big question is, how many such “high-tech” devices do we need in the Russian Federation? And is it possible to organize the production of even a few obsolete devices, but covering the mass needs of industry and the national economy? Figuratively speaking, if compared with the nutrition of the population, then in the mass it is possible to abandon the advertised McDonald's (for gourmets and for a lot of money, you can also import a hamburger) and replace it with shawarma (fast food remains in the bulk and the population does not die of hunger)?
    1. Bradley
      Bradley 4 March 2022 08: 20
      +4
      Yes, we cannot produce a lot of things, there are simply no technologies.
      Even the domestic Elbrus processors, according to more or less modern standards, were made for us by Taiwan at TSMC.
      If TSMC could make Elbrus using 14nm technology, then we can only use 65nm. This is quite critical, because a 14-nm sample consumes less energy, which means it heats up less, while other things being equal, it has greater performance, because with less tech. process transistors can be grown at a higher density much more.

      And yes, performance is never superfluous. Otherwise, they would have sat on 8086 processors.
      The software part becomes more and more difficult, because it acquires more features.
      Roughly speaking - compare notepad and Microsoft Office. The second - the possibilities are much wider and they are all used. But the notepad will work fine on weak hardware, but for the Office you already need something sane if you don’t want to catch a “tick” from the brakes.

      Phone processors are the same. Today, the phone is a multimedia device. Internet, video, games and only then a dialer.
      And in order to process video in FHD, 10Mb / s in the 265th (HEVC) codec without brakes, you need a sane processor. You can also watch video in 3GP, but blood will come out of your eyes.

      Wherever you spit - everywhere you need high-performance processors, and even at the same time energy efficient ones.
      It's the same in defense. Yes, the servers are the same as those on the American Xeon and EPYC.

      We have no industry, no infrastructure, no technology to produce even "somewhat obsolete" stones.

      Not so long ago, they tried to push through all the same domestic "Elbrus" with their own, so Sberbank and Rosatom denied it as best they could.

      Quite simply, we have nothing to replace Western technology. Technologies and products without which we cannot survive today.
    2. igork735
      igork735 4 March 2022 10: 24
      +1
      I demand dumplings instead of McDonald's!
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 4 March 2022 15: 20
        0
        Good and real dumplings will make any sandwich from McDonald's. yes
  5. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 4 March 2022 07: 16
    +2
    Now, when the "blockheads" from Europe are competing for distillation with what to break up with Russia or which enterprises to close, the liberated Russian markets will be occupied by Asians, and then it will be difficult for European producers to return back.
    Moreover, the West has shown its vile guise.
  6. Bradley
    Bradley 4 March 2022 07: 30
    -3
    Certainly, this is good news. The products of such a giant as RK are necessary.
    By the way, our own phone was released there (AYYA T1), again. Completely domestic (with Helio P70 processor). MediaTek, if anything - the office of Taiwan.
    The OS is also completely domestic - Finnish Sailfish OS.

    I wonder how phones were going to be massively assembled if MediaTek joined the sanctions, which will create a shortage of their stones?

    But that's okay, I'm more concerned about AMD and Intel processors, the prices for which are now completely inadequate. i3 on the Comet Lake core cost 7k, and now 30k.
    Let them at least agree with AMD so that they can assemble a new computer without selling a kidney for a stone for the office.
    Moreover, desktop processors are unlikely to be purchased for the defense industry. They took the Zeons there.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 4 March 2022 07: 42
      +2
      The OS is also completely domestic - Finnish Sailfish OS.


      So is it domestic or Finnish??? And why is the apparatus then domestic if there are Taiwanese "guts"? Screwdriver assembly is obtained.
      1. Bradley
        Bradley 4 March 2022 07: 57
        -1
        So is it domestic or Finnish??? And why is the apparatus then domestic if there are Taiwanese "guts"? Screwdriver assembly is obtained.

        Finnish OS, Taiwanese hardware.
        Butina says that even desktop themes are Russian.
        The deputies have such a flash mob going on, like they refuse iPhones in favor of the domestic Aya.
        Reminds me of the time when everyone changed their iPhones (including Kadyrov and Medvedev) to Yotafon. For a short time they walked with him.
    2. musketon64
      musketon64 4 March 2022 08: 23
      +1
      I wonder how phones were going to be massively assembled if MediaTek joined the sanctions, which will create a shortage of their stones?

      Here in one article I read about possible responses to sanctions. So, it turns out that processor manufacturers buy from us a huge amount of inert gas necessary for their production. If deliveries are canceled, then the shortage of these products on the market will worsen even more.
      1. Bradley
        Bradley 4 March 2022 08: 27
        +3
        Here in one article I read about possible responses to sanctions. So, it turns out that processor manufacturers buy from us a huge amount of inert gas necessary for their production. If deliveries are canceled, then the shortage of these products on the market will worsen even more.

        I won't say anything here. I don't know how much gas they need there and for what purposes.
        If our gas really plays a serious role in this, then yes, the deficit will increase. I think that the Americans will import gas.
        1. musketon64
          musketon64 4 March 2022 08: 42
          +1
          I think that the Americans will import gas.

          Well, if only the SSG. winked
          The Americans, out, themselves are asking to withdraw from the sanctions of Russian enterprises supplying uranium. By the way, this article also mentions such sanctions in the form of a ban on the supply of palladium (40% of the market) for the European auto industry, which goes to the production of exhaust catalysts. And Russia and Belarus control 80% of fertilizer production, almost all of which goes to Europe. If you close these deliveries, then the European agricultural sector will simply lie on its side.
          1. Bradley
            Bradley 4 March 2022 08: 45
            +2
            Yes, it is quite. And they will not build the infrastructure quickly, and this is money too.
            Yes, I read the news that the companies asked the government not to impose sanctions against uranium suppliers.
      2. -Paul-
        -Paul- 4 March 2022 12: 02
        +2
        A quarter of the world market for sapphire crystals for smartphones and tablets belongs to Russia.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 4 March 2022 08: 03
    +1
    South Korea received from the United States the right not to request an American license to supply high-tech products to Russia
    . Nothing unexpected, just business ... though the analyst predicted the start of this process a little later, but someone decided to hurry up right away ... commendable!
  8. mitroha
    mitroha 4 March 2022 08: 15
    -1
    Quote: Bradley
    SailfishOS.

    She is no longer Finnish, but ours. And a lot has been changed from the original
    1. Bradley
      Bradley 4 March 2022 08: 35
      +1
      She is no longer Finnish, but ours. And a lot has been changed from the original

      Yes, we bought this OS.
      But I would not argue that we have changed something there. Except the interface.
      We already had so many different assemblies on Linux that had no analogues in the world that I had already lost count.
      Astra Linux more or less took root. After Windows server it's just torture.
      This slow operating system is now being slowly installed in Rosatom, and specialists are being sent to courses.
  9. zwlad
    zwlad 4 March 2022 08: 18
    +1
    The US agreed to add the Republic of Korea to the list of countries for which an exception to the “foreign direct product rule” has been introduced.

    Business and nothing more.
  10. with a bomb
    with a bomb 4 March 2022 08: 49
    -5
    Koreans supply high-tech products. and we ourselves lived to see a stone axe.
  11. riwas
    riwas 4 March 2022 09: 18
    +1
    South Korea received from the United States the right not to request an American license to supply high-tech products to Russia

    A ray of light in the dark realm of US vassals. It seems that for a long time those who support sanctions will not be enough. They'll break quickly.
  12. A_Mazkov
    A_Mazkov 4 March 2022 10: 07
    0
    Bad news! Not patriotic!
    Now I'll fix it!
    That is:
    "Volodin told what will be the response of Russia to Western sanctions."
    The only possible response to sanctions is the development of our country, State Duma Chairman Vyacheslav Volodin wrote on his Telegram channel.
    Read more in PG: https://www.pnp.ru/economics/volodin-rasskazal-kakim-budet-answer-rossii-na-zapadnye-sankcii.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop

    Only Robinson had a real Black Friday. Everything else is a scam!
  13. Nikolay Sayenko
    Nikolay Sayenko 4 March 2022 16: 48
    0
    Unfasten the share of Uncle Sam and order!
  14. RED_ICE
    RED_ICE 4 March 2022 20: 42
    0
    Independent state)))))
  15. xASPIDx
    xASPIDx 5 March 2022 11: 39
    0
    Ahahahaha, all the loot won evil.