Zelensky threatened to revise the non-nuclear status of Ukraine

Ukraine can regain its nuclear status if the countries participating in the Budapest Memorandum do not provide Kiev with the security guarantees promised in 1994. This statement was made by the President of Ukraine.

Zelensky threatened to revise Ukraine's non-nuclear status, as provided for in the Budapest Memorandum. Speaking at the Munich Security Conference, he said that Kiev would initiate a meeting of the countries that signed the document, and if the meeting does not take place, then Ukraine has the right to regain its nuclear status, which it lost in 1994.

I am initiating consultations within the framework of the Budapest Memorandum (...) If (...) as a result of these consultations there are no guarantees of security (...) all the package decisions of 1994 will be called into question

Zelensky said, adding that he would instruct Foreign Minister Kuleba to convene the summit.

Before this, in his speech, he accused Russia of “annexing” Crimea, seizing Donbass, preparing for an attack, constant shelling from the “illegal republics”, and even cited as an example artillery a shell that allegedly hit a kindergarten a few days ago. Zelensky emphasized that Kyiv "consistently" fulfills the Minsk agreements, while Russia, on the contrary, violates them. Therefore, he demands protection for Ukraine from Russia, including within the framework of the Budapest Memorandum. And if this does not happen, then Kyiv will ensure its own security, including by returning to nuclear status.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, part of the nuclear arsenal remained on the territory of Ukraine. In 1994, the Budapest Memorandum was signed, under which Ukraine acquired a non-nuclear status, and Russia, the United States and Great Britain promised to provide guarantees for its security.

Comments

[Fedor Sokolov]

It is time for Zelensky to finally remember that he is not on the stage of the 95th quarter and become a serious and responsible politician who is responsible for his words.

[karish]

well, firstly, the condition for Ukraine to accept a nuclear-free status, transfer nuclear weapons and join the nuclear non-proliferation treaty was just the Budapest memorandum and guarantees of its territorial integrity from 3 states.
Legally, if one of the parties does not fulfill its obligations, the other has the absolute right to withdraw from it, of course, as well as from the agreements into which the Budapest Memorandum was included.
Of course, no one will return nuclear weapons to them, but in the event of withdrawal from the NPT, no one will impose sanctions.
Will Ukraine be able to create Yao? Of course he can.
Korea created . South Africa and Libya too. Science is no less developed in Ukraine, and rocket technologies even more so.
The conversation is not even about Ukraine's ability to create nuclear weapons, but about the consequences, and the consequences are simple, all those guarantees that superpowers give are ultimately not worth the papers written on them.
i.e. this could lead to a collapse in the NPT system itself, when any country understands that the guarantee of its inviolability is nuclear weapons.
Outcome. collapse of the entire world balance.
Dozens of countries with nuclear weapons will appear.
Zelensky correctly raised the question, you guaranteed - guarantee.

[Livonetc]

What kind of science is in Krajina.
This is no longer Ukraine.
Left "not only all."
As for Libya's creation of nuclear weapons, I somehow missed the topic altogether.
And South Africa?
And you, Dear, from which regions will you be?

[VORON538]

He is Israeli.:))) Naturally, with relatives ... in Ukraine.

[aszzz888]

VORON538 (artem)
Today, 08: 13

+5
He is Israeli.:))) Of course, with relatives ... in Ukraine.

On duty from them, and therefore carries all sorts of nonsense -

Will Ukraine be able to create Yao? Of course he can.

[karish]

Quote: Livonetc

What kind of science is in Krajina.
This is no longer Ukraine.

sufficient to build nuclear weapons.

Quote: Livonetc

And as for the creation of nuclear weapons by Libya, somehow he missed it altogether.
And South Africa?

In the early 1980s Libya turned to centrifuge uranium enrichment technology. In the mid 1990s. through an illegal network created by the "father" of the Pakistani nuclear bomb, A.K. Khan, Libya received the first 20 centrifuges for uranium enrichment, and in 2000 tried through the same source to purchase 10 P-2 centrifuges capable of annually producing highly enriched uranium for the production of 10 nuclear warheads. In parallel, Libya purchased uranium in various forms. At the end of 2001 - beginning of 2002. through the A.K. network Hana Livia received documents related to the design and production of a nuclear weapon.
However, the insufficient development of the scientific, technical and technological base of Libya did not allow it to independently use the materials and equipment received and achieve significant progress in creating the production of weapons-grade nuclear materials.
On December 19, 2003, Libya, as a result of secret negotiations with Great Britain and the USA, announced its refusal to implement programs for the creation of weapons of mass destruction (WMD), in particular, the decision to destroy materials, equipment and programs suitable for the creation of WMD. The ensuing full-scale inspections by the IAEA confirmed the absence of the possibility of producing weapons-grade nuclear materials in the country. Equipment and materials previously purchased by Libya, potentially posing a threat to the non-proliferation regime, were removed from the country.

South Africa ended its nuclear weapons program in 1989. All bombs (six assembled and one under assembly) were dismantled and disposed of, and South Africa acceded to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, which was signed by South African Ambassador to the United States Harry Schwartz.

Quote: Livonetc

And you, Dear, from which regions will you be?

from where there are no nuclear weapons, but we will use them if necessary.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: 30 vis

Everyone there hates Russia and Russians ... Sometimes I start to wonder if it was necessary to save these people from Schilgruber?

You really are. This is the so-called annoyance for the fact that due to the fault of the temporary detention center and the Russians, Israel did not settle in the Crimea ...
How would you like...

[Bolt cutter]

purchase 10 thousand centrifuges

Now it's not so easy, this time. But buy for what? International hucksters do not sell weapons on credit. Libya did not have this problem with its petrodollars.

[Vadim237]

Enough to build nuclear weapons. From the beginning, let them learn how to build with reactor fuel - but about nuclear, but who the poor will allow you to create it, the EU will immediately stop all assistance, and the United States is doing the same on this issue, as this will become a significant incentive for other countries to acquire their own nuclear weapons on an individual basis and the NPT you can safely bury it like that.

[neri73-r]

Quote: karish

from where there is no nuclear weapons, but we will use it if necessary.

Do not apply, you will not be able, or rather you will not have time! And about Ukraine, the first who will be against it are the Anglo-Saxons! And they will put Nenko in a certain pose if she even twitches towards the creation of nuclear weapons.

[Ingenegr]

Quote: Livonetc

And South Africa?

South Africa, to date, is the only country that has created nuclear charges of its own design and production, tested them and voluntarily refused to deploy them. That is, South Africa has the technological and scientific backlog for the production of nuclear weapons.
But with Libya - it looks more like a "Powell test tube".

[Dart2027]

Will Ukraine be able to create Yao? Of course he can. Korea created . South Africa and Libya are the same.

What? Libya created nuclear weapons?!

Already in Ukraine, science is no less developed, and rocket technology even more so.

Well, what are their achievements during the "independence"?

when any country understands, the guarantee of its immunity is nuclear weapons.

I want to see how some Zimbabwe builds ballistic missiles.

[1976AG]

Well, firstly, Ukraine never created nuclear weapons, did not have a technological chain and never possessed it. Yes, for some time there was nuclear weapons on its territory, but it never belonged to it. Secondly, the creation of nuclear weapons requires equipment and competencies that Ukraine has NEVER possessed and never had. If you think that it is all so simple, then you are greatly mistaken. Ukraine is not able to master the production of combat aircraft and air defense systems, so it has nothing to even dream about nuclear weapons. Although they can blurt out to the public, of course. As for the Budapest Memorandum, if you are already such a supporter of the rule of law, then explain under what law the United States staged a coup d'état in Ukraine. Or can they break the law? Laws must either be observed by everyone, or then no one should be required to comply with them. And so that the West does what it wants, and Russia poke into different documents there - that will not work.
"all those guarantees that superpowers give in the end are not worth the papers written on them."
Yes. The states have shown that this is the case. When America doesn’t like something, she didn’t give a damn about the documents, which, among other things, she herself signed.
"Zelensky correctly raised the question, you guaranteed - guarantee"
Do not remember what Yanukovych was guaranteed there at one time? And why is it possible for Yanukovych not to comply with guarantees, but not for Zelensky?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

You forgot that the memorandum is not legally binding.

[karish]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

You forgot that the memorandum is not legally binding.

You are strange, you signed, but does not bear any obligations, then the entry of Ukraine into the day does not bear any obligations (if you like)

[Repellent]

Quote: karish

then the entry of Ukraine into the day does not bear any obligations

You are confusing the Agreement with the Memorandum. And tourism with immigration

[dmmyak40]

You and your masters preach the law: "He who did it is right." So sip with a full spoon together n Ze.

[neri73-r]

Quote: karish

You are strange, you signed, but does not bear any obligations, then the entry of Ukraine into the day does not bear any obligations (if you like)

It has not been ratified, that is, it has not even entered into force!

[Looking for]

which was confirmed by the German ambassador to Ukraine.

[SSR]

Quote: 1976AG

Yes, for some time there was nuclear weapons on its territory, but it never belonged to it. Secondly, the creation of nuclear weapons requires equipment and competencies that Ukraine has NEVER possessed and never had.

Khataskraynie, as usual, confuse one with the other. They "was" consider their own, although even in the next 20 years, they will not be able to get weapons-grade material, only TVEL from their ceiling reactor.
They killed the industry and the clown with what he played the piano, he will make a centrifuge, what a daring one. )))

[Aviator_]

South Africa and Libya are the same.

More about Libya please. Do not wave a test tube of washing powder like Powell. There was an attempt in South Africa, but they were quickly shortened in desires.

[karish]

Quote: Bessik

South Africa and Libya are the same.
==========
What ward will you be from?

Quote: Aviator_

South Africa and Libya are the same.

More about Libya please. Do not wave a test tube of washing powder like Powell. There was an attempt in South Africa, but they were quickly shortened in desires.

I provided links, read them, or is there a problem with understanding what you read?

[Repellent]

Quote: karish

I provided links, read

You better take care of Iran, it is closer to you. And here it’s slippery without yours, they themselves have a runny nose

[Dart2027]

Quote: karish

I gave links, read, or is there a problem with the concept of what is read?

Quote: karish

In the early 1980s Libya turned to centrifuge uranium enrichment technology. In the mid 1990s. through an illegal network created by the "father" of the Pakistani nuclear bomb, A.K. Khan, Libya received the first 20 centrifuges for uranium enrichment, and in 2000 tried through the same source to purchase 10 P-2 centrifuges capable of annually producing highly enriched uranium for the production of 10 nuclear warheads.

That is, she tried to buy equipment that she herself could not produce even theoretically. Are you sure you don't have problems with reading comprehension?

[Looking for]

Do you even understand the concept of "reference" to something.

[German A.]

Can not. I don’t know what Zele’s advisers whispered there and who wrote the speech to him. But immediately after the coup, when the war in the Donbass was, Turchynov threatened to scatter nuclear waste ...

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

Then, for starters, Zelebobik will return to the Constitution of Ukraine for the time of 1994, where it is written in black and white about the neutral status of Ukraine. And regarding the creation of nuclear weapons, the dills will not have enough mind. As well as industrial capacities. The only thing they can do is the second Chernobyl.

[Egoza]

Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky

And about the creation of nuclear weapons - the dills will not have enough mind. As well as industrial capacities

Ze. thinks that nuclear weapons can be slapped in a shed on your knee! And what? Like everything "new" in Ukraine

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

Zeli's imagination is limited only by the long "road" he has sniffed out.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: karish

Legally, if one of the parties does not fulfill its obligations, the second has the absolute right to withdraw from it, of course, as well as from the agreements that included the Budapest Memorandum.

It is strange how, with such ignorance of the names of European capitals, you became a colonel?
That is ... the Budapest memorandum is sacred, and the Minsk agreements are for Russia?
Oh!!! Renet...

Quote: karish

Will Ukraine be able to create Yao? Of course he can.

And will she be able to test him or will she rush with him, like APU with "Hammer" monkey with a grenade Or was 1986 not enough for her?
Any country in the world has already begun to understand why the world democracy represented by the United States has lost interest in North Korea... And it makes sense to have a heart-to-heart talk with Eun - what if he turns out to be not such a clown as Zelensky... We are neighbors, after all. ..

Quote: karish

Zelensky correctly raised the question, you guaranteed - guarantee.

In the light of the requirement for guarantee obligations, Russia can also ask very biasedly following the results of the Nuremberg trials and the oversight of outright fascism by some heads of state ...
=====
Don't scare the hedgehog with bare hemispheres...

[cmax]

Quote: karish

well, firstly, the condition for Ukraine to accept a nuclear-free status, transfer nuclear weapons and join the nuclear non-proliferation treaty was just the Budapest memorandum and guarantees of its territorial integrity from 3 states.
Legally, if one of the parties does not fulfill its obligations, the other has the absolute right to withdraw from it, of course, as well as from the agreements into which the Budapest Memorandum was included.
Of course, no one will return nuclear weapons to them, but in the event of withdrawal from the NPT, no one will impose sanctions.
Will Ukraine be able to create Yao? Of course he can.
Korea created . South Africa and Libya too. Science is no less developed in Ukraine, and rocket technologies even more so.
The conversation is not even about Ukraine's ability to create nuclear weapons, but about the consequences, and the consequences are simple, all those guarantees that superpowers give are ultimately not worth the papers written on them.
i.e. this could lead to a collapse in the NPT system itself, when any country understands that the guarantee of its inviolability is nuclear weapons.
Outcome. collapse of the entire world balance.
Dozens of countries with nuclear weapons will appear.
Zelensky correctly raised the question, you guaranteed - guarantee.

And what about the coup d'état in Ukraine in 2014. It is also guaranteed by the Budapest Memorandum. Or it was guaranteed by the guarantors of the agreement between the opposition and Yanukovych - France and Germany. There didn’t seem to be a word about the coup d’état in February, about the 2014 elections in the fall, it was said. So there is no need to tell la la here. First the coup, then the Crimea, and not vice versa. The current government in Kiev is illegal.

[syndicalist]

Something you have a complete mess in your head. You should read this very memorandum, or something. It only has 4 paragraphs in a few lines and not a word about guarantees for specific persons in the system of Ukrainian power.
There is not a single state in the world with an initially legitimate government. Each of them has episodes associated with revolution, war, coup. And there was no coup in Ukraine, since not only state institutions remained unshakable, but even their personnel. So what if the head of one of the branches of power left his post under popular pressure? An absolutely banal situation for any modern state.
The most established is the attitude of the international community. And here today's Ukraine has a full openwork. It is a member of the UN, the Council of Europe, recognized by all world states, including Russia, which continues to negotiate with it, conclude agreements, and conduct commercial settlements, taking into account the entire history from the moment of the Belovezhskaya agreements.

[cmax]

Quote: syndicalist

Something you have a complete mess in your head. You should read this very memorandum, or something. It only has 4 paragraphs in a few lines and not a word about guarantees for specific persons in the system of Ukrainian power.
There is not a single state in the world with an initially legitimate government. Each of them has episodes associated with revolution, war, coup. And there was no coup in Ukraine, since not only state institutions remained unshakable, but even their personnel. So what if the head of one of the branches of power left his post under popular pressure? An absolutely banal situation for any modern state.
The most established is the attitude of the international community. And here today's Ukraine has a full openwork. It is a member of the UN, the Council of Europe, recognized by all world states, including Russia, which continues to negotiate with it, conclude agreements, and conduct commercial settlements, taking into account the entire history from the moment of the Belovezhskaya agreements.

They explained it as Russia's "partners" always do. The coup in Kyiv is something else. The events in Kosovo are something else, the US and Turkish troops stationed in the north of the independent country of Syria are something else. According to your logic, American soldiers who are now thousands of kilometers away from the US in Romania, Poland, Lithuania, Estonia pee exclusively with syrup, while Russian soldiers, who are in their own country, on their own territory, pee exclusively with urine. Don't try too hard to answer, it's an allegory. I already wrote that the May 9 parade in Moscow on Red Square will soon be a sign of a threat to Western society (maybe to you too, Makarevich already thinks so now), an attempt... and so on and so forth. Finish it yourself, you are a master at explaining that white is black and vice versa. Read carefully... first the coup, then Crimea, otherwise you too have a mess in your head, pearl barley. But to tolerate such a stinking, evil, dangerous semi-state near your border, especially when the direct distance from Kharkov to Moscow is only 650 km, is probably still dangerous. A couple of years and missiles with explanations that bears roam in Moscow, and that we need to protect ourselves from them, will appear in Ukraine, even if it is not officially in NATO.

[Vlad69]

Creation technology is only one side of the coin. Point number two, so to speak. And the first point, as always: who will give money for this?

[engineer74]

Quote: Vlad69

Creation technology is only one side of the coin. Point number two, so to speak. And the first point, as always: who will give money for this?

And it’s not so easy with technology, for the development of this topic, at a certain stage, a series of tests is needed, and this moment cannot be bypassed
Nuclear test site in the center of Europe, I think everyone will be very happy
Yes, and the Israeli experience of stopping unwanted research is recognized by the world community

[NKT]

Just what points from the Budapest Memorandum did the Russian Federation violate?
Did not support the state coup? There is no such obligation.
Supported the people's right to self-determination, which is one of the basic principles of international law? There are no such restrictions in the memorandum. Committed aggression against Ukraine? Also no. It didn’t help when they committed aggression, against Ukraine, too. So what did the Russian Federation violate in the end?

[nobody75]

Is the Budapest Memorandum a legally binding document? Did the US Department of Justice publish any clarifications? And to create a nuclear arsenal for Ukraine, it’s like walking to the moon ...
Sincerely

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

And I kept thinking, wondering, when will Ukraine break through the bottom? Here it is! If you remembered the Budapest memorandum, then this is already a real bottom! Further, there is nowhere to go.

[Egoza]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

If you remembered the Budapest memorandum, then this is already a real bottom! Further, there is nowhere to go.

You don't know Ukraine very well. Here everything is according to the principle: "Deeper, and deeper and deeper!"

[nobody75]

Zero is not the limit. There are also negative numbers...
Sincerely

[beeper]

Quote: nobody75

Is the Budapest Memorandum a legally binding document? Did the US Department of Justice publish any clarifications? And to create a nuclear arsenal for Ukraine, it’s like walking to the moon ...
Sincerely

The Budapest Memorandum was NOT RATIFIED by the Kiev authorities themselves, which the screeching w / Bandera Goebbelsuchs slyly "forget to inform" about!
And the "militant" Zelts, in order not to make the public laugh again (smartly "chopping off the numbers" on the "political stage"), let him find out from the "balcony sniper" Lenka Kravchuk the "history of the issue" about Washington's ultimatum demand to the separatists of the former Ukrainian, of the Kazakh and Belarusian Soviet Socialist Republics, about "renunciation of nuclear weapons (and its complete evacuation to the territory of the former RSFSR, at the disposal of the ameropuppet "EBN comrades regime", which were then already "turned" with might and main by the insidious overseas "advisers")", still at the stage registration of "natsnezalezhnosti"!
Without which, these anti-people separatist "projects" of local klepto "elites" would have been denied "democratic recognition" by the American dominators and they would NOT have taken place initially (although, as we see, in the case of the "independence" of the former Ukrainian SSR, it was not worth it to "start", unrestrained kleptomania and hopeless stupidity of absolutely all the "Kiev authorities" over 30 post-Soviet years has led to poverty, devastation and collapse - the galvanized corpse of the failed "state" only stinks unbearably "for the whole district" and the postmortum "squirms" ...)!
The undereducated "lawyer" Seltz is a priori incompetent in what he is trying to rant about, neither from the legal nor from the technical side, and his "advisers" are the same stupid, unfortunate "artists of the burnt theater"!
It would have been different if these Jewish "lads" had at least a modicum of intelligence, they would NOT have behaved like that, they would NOT have become ugly, they would NOT have become "w / Bandera", they would NOT have betrayed the Memory of the Holocaust (I also see here on VO, under this article, excitedly a certain "karish" -Israeli adherent of "w / Banderism" and the "Maidan" Banderonazi "regime" )!

[Andy_nsk]

The Budapest Memorandum was NOT RATIFIED by the Kiev authorities themselves

Memorandums do not require ratification, they are something like a declaration of intent: for all that is good against all that is bad. Well, and most importantly: there was no armed attack on Ukraine, if anyone believes that there was a war, then tell us about the hostilities, losses of the parties, etc. And I am very curious what nuclear weapons would give in the case of Crimea, on whom the Kiev authorities were going to drop atomic bombs (or missiles with nuclear warheads) on Sevastopol, Simferopol, Moscow? - completely stoned!

[beeper]

By "stupefaction (they say that it is "elite", almost unbroken, "Colombian snow")" Zeltsa and his "friends" would not categorically "deny"!
But Yushchenko's ex-prime minister, "gas" Zhulya, with her "boyfriend" from the "party of regions", reaching the handle in a Russophobic rage, seriously "discussed" how they were burning with the desire to "kill Russians from atomic weapons"!
So, if they had such an opportunity "in real life", then these "Maidan" extremists would easily have fired nuclear weapons at Crimea, Donbass, and any other rebellious city in Eastern Ukraine!
And then, more than once, the "w / Bandera" who seized power publicly "thought" about creating a "dirty bomb" - for explosions in the Crimea and Donbass, ... and further, in large cities of Russia (I really hope that the RF IC "did not disregard" these large-scale criminal terrorist intentions of the "Maidan authorities", because they are "without a statute of limitations"!)!
You can, of course, laugh at the "stoned kaveenshchiks", but life has taught me that you should not arrogantly turn your back on a stupid dog furiously barking at you, even such a cowardly and insignificant dog as this "w / Bandera comedian troupe" - this provokes them on unreasonable "jumps" ...

[Looking for]

German Ambassador to Kiev Anka Feldhusen made an important statement about the Budapest Memorandum, a document that resulted in the deprivation of Ukraine of nuclear weapons.

On the air of the Ukraine 24 TV channel, the diplomat said that the document does not provide for international legal obligations.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: karish

well, firstly, the condition for Ukraine to accept a nuclear-free status, transfer nuclear weapons and join the nuclear non-proliferation treaty was just the Budapest memorandum and guarantees of its territorial integrity from 3 states.
Legally, if one of the parties does not fulfill its obligations, the other has the absolute right to withdraw from it, of course, as well as from the agreements into which the Budapest Memorandum was included.
Of course, no one will return nuclear weapons to them, but in the event of withdrawal from the NPT, no one will impose sanctions.
Will Ukraine be able to create Yao? Of course he can.
Korea created . South Africa and Libya too. Science is no less developed in Ukraine, and rocket technologies even more so.
The conversation is not even about Ukraine's ability to create nuclear weapons, but about the consequences, and the consequences are simple, all those guarantees that superpowers give are ultimately not worth the papers written on them.
i.e. this could lead to a collapse in the NPT system itself, when any country understands that the guarantee of its inviolability is nuclear weapons.
Outcome. collapse of the entire world balance.
Dozens of countries with nuclear weapons will appear.
Zelensky correctly raised the question, you guaranteed - guarantee.

Well, firstly, a memorandum is just a memorandum. A memorandum (lat. memorandum - something to remember) is an information and reference document outlining views on any issue. Can be used in diplomatic relations, business, as a memo or reference within an organization. Statement of views and no obligations.

Will Ukraine be able to create Yao? Of course he can.

Yes, of course he can't.

. Already in Ukraine, science is no less developed, and rocket technology even more so.

.
It is so developed that Sapsan has not been able to finish it for many years.

[sagitovich]

Urgently eliminate the 404 error, it starts to strain a lot.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Error 404 has been annoying for almost 30 years. But the Kremlin did not think to itch. Everyone was shouting about "brotherhood". Even the ambassador was M. Zurabov. God forbid that we don't like it And now, "get it and sign it" - an innate state on our borders.

[spech]

well, firstly, the condition for Ukraine to accept a nuclear-free status, transfer nuclear weapons and join the nuclear non-proliferation treaty was just the Budapest memorandum

Recall the definitions of the word "memorandum"?
PS To promise does not mean to marry.

[SKVichyakow]

Karish. Don't you know that a memorandum is a non-binding intention, a kind of memorandum. Moreover, it was not ratified by any of the parties that signed it. And in case of attempts to develop it, all organizations involved in them must be destroyed. Is that what Israel does?

[ioan-e]

Quote: karish

Zelensky correctly raised the question, you guaranteed - guarantee.

Everything is correct, if you act according to the principle - I see here, but I don’t see here! First, let them return everything back to the 2014 coup, and then they demand it! The government lost its legitimacy in 2014, so nobody owes THIS anything! It's strange that they talk to them at all!

[svoroponov]

Ukraine was the first to violate the Memorandum by introducing a paragraph on joining NATO into its constitution. According to the Memorandum, it should have a non-bloc status.
But they won't let her develop nuclear weapons. With a nuclear club Ukrainian no one needs it in Europe.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: karish

Korea created . South Africa and Libya

Korea, most likely, was helped by the Chinese, South Africa by the Israelis, Libya never had it,

[Palmyra]

This means that in the eyes of the world community, Ukraine is becoming a terrorist state. And this threat must be eliminated in a consolidated manner. Ukraine was the first to break the agreement on not joining NATO, securing this path with the constitution. What are the claims...

[Alex Nevs]

Accept. Only this is a Very expensive pleasure. Very. This is not for you to cut strategists. Where to take the money? No one will give you that much. None! Yes, and ... only a grenade for a monkey is not enough for more.

[Normal ok]

The man made a very reasonable point. The fact that technically Ukraine can make a dozen nuclear weapons. And, even legally, they will be right. But no one will let you do it. Neither Russia nor the West.

[Bolt cutter]

technically, Ukraine can make a dozen nuclear weapons.

Now it is no longer an outrageous high-tech, but it is still very difficult and expensive.
The problem is different - if they theoretically create a bomb, how to explain to Indonesia, Turkey, Algeria, Nigeria (!) And another crowd of the afflicted, why is it impossible for them, but for Ukraine? After all, then even Paraguay will become a nuclear power.

[Looking for]

and Cuba. Forgot Cuba?

[cat Rusich]

Quote: karish

Will Ukraine be able to create Yao? Of course he can.
.

Atomic bomb (classic exploding ammunition) - CAN NOT

Quote: karish

, all those guarantees that superpowers give are ultimately not worth the papers written on them.
.

Of this "truth" I have no doubt

Quote: karish

Zelensky correctly raised the question, you guaranteed - guarantee.

First, "in turn" to fulfill the "guarantees" issued in February 2014 to Yanukovych.

Quote: karish

The conversation is not even about Ukraine's ability to create nuclear weapons. but about the consequences.

Stop selling TVEL to Ukraine

[viktor.]

Zelya will go around the World like the Georgian Bear, and Russia will have to build and feed Ukraine! There are simply no other options!

[Shiva83483]

My dear ... and in your opinion, memorandum = contract? If so, then oh...

[SOF]

Quote: karish

you guaranteed - guarantee

..... guaranteed ..... exactly until the moment ..... when the neo-Nazis came to power.............
.... post a couple of pictures ...... where are those requiring guarantees ..... walking with the faces of their new / old heroes? ..... who are active and wholeheartedly ........ .... helped the Germans to destroy people ...... incl. and Jews...
.....now these guarantees need to be extended to others.....who are around this dUkraineyou live.........how do you.....spread to Iran, for example........
..... or something else?.....

[Okolotochny]

Wow, what an Israeli crap. Leave your capital Tel Aviv, take your Tabor and come to protect Nenka. Sofa warrior, .

[Proxima]

Nuclear weapons without carriers are a home-made mine. Without carriers, they are nothing. The Tu-160 strategic missile carriers that the Ukrainians cut up for non-ferrous metal - was that also what the Budapest Memorandum forced them to do? And Yuzhmash, which produced the Satan and which also went under - was that also envisaged by the Budapest Agreements? I no longer stutter that Ukraine is unambiguously incapable of producing nuclear stuffing in a full cycle. In a word, the greedy elite first bought into the loans of Western partners, and now they want to eat a fish and ... This does not happen!

[1976AG]

Quote: Proxima

Nuclear weapons without carriers are a home-made mine. Without carriers, they are nothing. The Tu-160 strategic missile carriers that the Ukrainians cut up for non-ferrous metal - was that also what the Budapest Memorandum forced them to do? And Yuzhmash, which produced the Satan and which also went under - was that also envisaged by the Budapest Agreements? I no longer stutter that Ukraine is unambiguously incapable of producing nuclear stuffing in a full cycle. In a word, the greedy elite first bought into the loans of Western partners, and now they want to eat a fish and ... This does not happen!

Based on the real state of affairs, apparently Ukraine plans to buy nuclear missiles in the DPRK.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Fyodor Sokolov

that he is not on the stage of the 95th quarter and become a serious and responsible politician responsible for his words.

Answered

[210ox]

Orderlies! Fix the sucker! Stop the drug addict!... He needs to be treated.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: 210ox

He needs to be treated.

Therefore, he runs from orderlies from Lviv to Germany

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: 210ox

Orderlies! Fix the sucker! Stop the drug addict!... He needs to be treated.

He doesn't need treatment... He needs to be hit in the forehead. A direct blow to the forehead will correct the guy's thought process.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: 30 vis

A direct blow to the lobeshnik will correct the thought process of the butt.

And it is possible and on a member. Can't play the piano. Tragedy!!!!

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Seryoga64

Quote: 30 vis

A direct blow to the lobeshnik will correct the thought process of the butt.

And it is possible and on a member. Can't play the piano. Tragedy!!!!

Here's another one. Personally, I've been squeamish since birth... Even in combat boots, ugh... Right on the forehead!

[Seryoga64]

Quote: 30 vis

Here's another . Personally, I'm squeamish from birth.

In the outskirts there are many who want to pile

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Seryoga64

Quote: 30 vis

Here's another . Personally, I'm squeamish from birth.

In the outskirts there are many who want to pile

If our guys enter Ukraine, the people will fish out and hang these Zelenskys from all sorts of rat holes... They will also have to be stopped... There is nothing more terrible than a humiliated, robbed, deceived people... There will be a people's reprisal against Banderovites and Svido-Ukrainians... I am sure.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: 30 vis

. Still have to stop...

Do not

[Egoza]

Quote: 30 vis

There will begin a massacre of Bandera and Svidoukra.. I'm sure.

In the eastern part - yes! In the west - no! On the contrary, they will hide there, unless the EU takes this part of Ukraine into their own hands.

[210ox]

Trepanation, as an option will fit. They say that at the same time psychos become complaisant

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: 210ox

Trepanation, as an option will fit. They say that at the same time psychos become complaisant

Isn't it a waste of time? To involve doctors... To spend money... But here one good blow to the forehead and brain activity will improve... In the right direction...

[Dude]

Quote: 210ox

Trepanation, as an option will fit. They say that at the same time psychos become complaisant

Have you confused trepanation with lobotomy?

[210ox]

I am not a psychiatrist. I need to correct all the single-cranial box. Like, with a blow, with a saw or whatever else, it doesn’t matter.

[Dude]

Walkie-talkie on an armored personnel carrier, I understand!

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Jews will take revenge on Ukrainians for constant pogroms.)

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Seryoga64

Quote: Fyodor Sokolov

that he is not on the stage of the 95th quarter and become a serious and responsible politician responsible for his words.

Answered

You are worse, you are a clown.

[1536]

For a great artist, the stage is the whole world. If he wants to play something, he will play. If you don't like it, don't watch, dear viewers.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Fyodor Sokolov

It is time for Zelensky to finally remember that he is not on the stage of the 95th quarter and become a serious and responsible politician who is responsible for his words.

Everything is given to a person from birth, it is given to be born a genius, which means a genius will be born, and whoever is given to be born a donkey will be born a donkey or a clown, well, like V. Vysotsky: "And if you are stupid as a tree, you will be born a baobab, and you will live by it until you you will die."

[cat Rusich]

Quote: tihonmarine

Zelensky
"And if you are stupid as a tree, you will be born a baobab, and live by it until you die."

If V. Zelensky is reborn, then into this plant

Cocaine bush from the genus Erythroxylum.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: cat Rusich

Coca bush - from the genus Erythroxylum.

Yes, and in our Russian bush, it can be reborn.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Fedor Sokolov

It is time for Zelensky to finally remember that he is not on the stage of the 95th quarter and become a serious and responsible politician who is responsible for his words.

This weakling, just like Poroshenko, lies and doesn't blush, the only thing missing in his hands was a brick from the allegedly shelled kindergarten "Skazka" on Depovskaya Street, in the center of the village, from the LPR, and, like Poroshenko, a piece of a bus blown up by the "Ukrainians" themselves using a MON-50. If you look from the front, the hole is made at the level of a sledgehammer swing; from the right flank, parallel to the front. No shrapnel, no blanks, no broken glass. They only show one corner so that they don't have to hammer another wall. Well, what can you say, weaklings are weaklings. When the Americans were asked how Zelensky differs from Poroshenko, they answered - nothing, only younger.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Fyodor Sokolov

and become a serious and responsible politician responsible for his words.

How can you become something that a priori cannot be? "A politician who is responsible for his words" is something mythological.

[flicker]

that he is not on the stage of the 95th quarter and become a serious and responsible politician

Yeah, he was "built" as president precisely so that he would joke there.

But every phenomenon has a downside: it is from the territory of Ukraine that "Ukrainian" YARS can fly to the territory of the United States
And then we'll remember

Zelensky threatened to revise the non-nuclear status of Ukraine

[boris epstein]

Zyists vin ziv would, but who would give you?
Maybe he would like to become serious, but that's not why he was "chosen".

[PN]

Yes, for God's sake, let them be a nuclear superpower. Only one question, why are vigorous bombs in the arsenals then taken?

[Pasus]

This is just a solvable issue! To increase pressure on the Russian Federation, the West can organize the supply of, for example, "dirty" bombs, mortar shells, etc., but what can I say, a sufficient number of materials are taken to Chernobyl for alleged processing and burial.

[PN]

No, Europe's memory is still fresh for Chernobyl. I think the Europeans themselves will bite the sharovaries for him. But deliveries such as special shells are not excluded ...

[mark1]

Quote: PASus

The West can arrange deliveries,

And what about the non-proliferation treaty?
But I would venture to suggest that not all nuclear weapons were taken out of Ukraine, they stumbled on something cunning (maybe even in the form of individual parts and assemblies, and not a finished product), and they periodically experience itching (this is bad in the sense of a terrorist threat)

[karish]

Quote: mark1

And what about the non-proliferation treaty?

The condition for joining the NPT was precisely the Budapest memorandum.
Not fulfilling

Memorandum on security guarantees in connection with Ukraine's accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (Budapest Memorandum) is an interstate document on security guarantees in connection with Ukraine's accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Signed on December 5, 1994 by the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Great Britain and the USA.
On November 16, 1994, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine adopted Law No. 248/94-VR “On accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons of July 1, 1968"[1], where one of the paragraphs states:
“6. This Law shall enter into force after the nuclear states provide Ukraine with security guarantees, formalized by signing the relevant international legal document.
It was the presence of this clause that led to the emergence of the Budapest Memorandum.

the same is true with Dnyao - his condition was a memorandum, failure to fulfill one entails a legal withdrawal from the other.

Quote: mark1

But I would venture to suggest that not all nuclear weapons were taken out of Ukraine

of course everything

[mark1]

Quote: karish

Condition for joining the NPT

The condition for entering the NPT for Ukraine could be anything (both a carcass and a stuffed animal), we are talking about Western countries that ... (and further in the text)

Quote: karish

But I would venture to suggest that not all nuclear weapons were taken out of Ukraine


of course everything

Of course, everything, and I even know where, but we don’t know much about the activities and programs of the nuclear research institutes of the Ukrainian SSR, what could remain there in the form of components and assemblies, even if they were supplied from Russia.
In Kazakhstan, even "in the depths" of Semipalatinsk, at least 1 YAZ is walled up. (Of course, it deteriorated if it was not dug up)

[1976AG]

"entails a legal exit"
Let them come out, what's the point... Even if they can illegally buy nuclear weapons from someone, the West itself will crush them into dust, because even without nuclear weapons they manage to blackmail half the world, and exchanging a monkey's regular grenade for a nuclear one is still shooting yourself.

[vitvit123]

Well, we are just fulfilling the Budapest memorandum... precisely because of the protection of Ukraine... several regions have already been liberated from enemies, just wait a little longer and we will secure it a little more, we are the only ones who are trying to make its existence safe!

[German A.]

The export took place under American control. You don't get stuck. Yes, and for every fool they received waste. For this, even superfluous can be handed over.

[mark1]

Quote: German A

The export took place under American control.

Yes, what does American control have to do with it, they still didn’t know more than the 12th department, if only the Ukrainian ensigns were additionally monitored (what would happen later

Quote: German A

superfluous

not dragged to hand over). Leave finished products alone

[German A.]

We are not talking about simple missiles, and then they are all numbered. As far as I know, all nuclear charges have their own impurities as signatures. And what products are we talking about when the warhead is assembled. Ukraine hid the warhead of the Soviet Union and waited for the arrival of Zelya to threaten her? Here, wild fantasy can fly very far.

[mark1]

Yes, you don’t even want to understand me ... the absence of "fantasy" is perhaps worse than its excess

... tsok-tsok-tsok ... -again, trouble came from where they were not waiting! hey-gay! (without gays) ... tsok-tsok ... -kiridyk ..

[German A.]

Well, I'm sorry if I don't understand. Because there is nuclear arms control between Russia and the US. And I doubt that someone was hiding / concealing something there, at least when they were taken out of Ukraine. It was in the common interest to take everything out of Ukraine.

[mark1]

I pouted... but there was nothing to do in the morning, so be it...

Quote: German A

someone hid / hid something, at least when exporting from Ukraine.

And what was not subject to export? What was in the laboratories of nuclear research institutes of the former Ukrainian SSR?
Neither I nor you know...
But it's actually running in circles.

[210ox]

As far as you know, there is uranium in Ukraine (Yellow Waters). Perhaps in Kharkov there is an opportunity to prepare equipment and specialists. But all this looks more like a trivial blackmail.

[evgen1221]

And why do they need to invest a lot in a full cycle. Everything is simpler, testing with nuclear power plants and delivery. At the exit, the primitive is wild in the form of a dirty shit bomb, or a land mine. But rather, the calculation is for the importation of NATO nuclear weapons. But the villagers will not have control, then there will be other difficulties.

[Kerensky]

The West can arrange deliveries of, for example, "dirty" bombs, mortar shells, etc.,

Can not. But they themselves can try ... But this is not nuclear weapons in the literal sense, but a radioactive warhead to infect the area.

[karish]

Quote: PN

Yes, for God's sake, let them be a nuclear superpower. Only one question, why are vigorous bombs in the arsenals then taken?

they have enough spent fuel from nuclear power plants.

[nobody75]

Spent fuel is the world's most complex chemical compound (and more than one). Fiddling with it you wake up?
Sincerely

[Seryoga64]

Quote: nobody75

Spent fuel is the world's most complex chemical compound (and more than one). Fiddling with it you wake up?
Sincerely

Do you even have a sense of humor?
Or at least understand the irony?
Or do you need to put emoticons, 5 pieces each?
Take your head off the bottle

[nobody75]

Excuse me, what bottle?? What are you about???
Sincerely

[Seryoga64]

Quote: PN

otkel vigorous bombs in the arsenals will they take?

Built from Chernobyl waste

[Seryoga64]

Quote: PN

otkel vigorous bombs in the arsenals will they take?

Build from manure

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: PN

Yes, for God's sake, let them be a nuclear superpower. Only one question, why are vigorous bombs in the arsenals then taken?

They do have potential and should not be underestimated. Zelenskind is not talking directly about the "nuclear club" yet, but I believe that Iran may have a number of questions on double standards. UA's first obvious moves towards weapons-grade plutonium should trigger a flurry of sanctions, embargoes, international isolation, and the country's inclusion in the "axis of evil." By waving at the UN with a test tube of Pu239, you can even bring in coalition troops. This is one standard. On the second - xs. Encouragement of dual technologies?

[Olgovich]

nuclear Ukraine is a monkey with a grenade.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

for the sake of truth, it is so without nuclear weapons

[Seryoga64]

Softly said
Two. Nazis and banderlogs

[German A.]

Those. 2 monkeys with one grenade? For example, Zelya is a Natsik and Yarosh is a banderlog? One grenade for two. Dangerous mix.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: German A

Dangerous mix.

Two.
The question is who will throw first

[German A.]

Maybe they are both Nazis and will throw at "Sashko Bely". Find out among all this fraternity where there is a Nazi, and where is a banderlog. Who is Gunpowder? Natsik or banderlog?

[Seryoga64]

Quote: German A

Natsik or banderlog?

The difference is small
Some people hate Russia a lot, others even more

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Olgovich

nuclear Ukraine is a monkey with a grenade.

Even Kim with a nuclear briefcase is more sympathetic.

[VORON538]

Garny Jewish lad threatens that he will make a vigorous loaf and remember everyone? And who will do it? The Americans, and other countries, will not sell or transfer this to them. The mortar was slapped in half with grief, and then nuclear weapons.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: VORON538

The mortar was slapped in half with grief, and then nuclear weapons.

How to make tanks, a youngster teaches

[Alex Justice]

Ukrainian Yeralash?

[impostor]

The clown has no fusion technology. The most that his specialists are capable of is a dirty bomb. But even in this case, the Ukraine project will be immediately closed by the same Germans.

[karish]

Quote: impostor

The clown has no fusion technology.

Clown, before you write, check what thermonuclear fusion is.

Quote: impostor

But even in this case, the Ukraine project will be immediately closed by the same Germans.

and how do you know?

[Seryoga64]

Quote: impostor

The clown has no fusion technology.

Actually, thermonuclear fusion and "vigorous bonba" are slightly different things

[impostor]

Well, stop talking nonsense Ukrainians

[Seryoga64]

Quote: impostor

Well, you then stop carrying crap for the Ukrainians

This is me talking crap "Moskolyak to Gilyak"
? Am I talking crap for the fact that Russia is enemy No. 1 for the outskirts?
Is this what I came up with?

Ukraine has identified Russia as its adversary, says the state's new military strategy. The Russian Federation "threatens the sovereignty and integrity" of Ukraine, allegedly trying to interfere with the country's Euro-Atlantic integration. In addition, the strategy provides for "the end of the Russian occupation."

[German A.]

Blimey. A lot of waste was collected in Chernobyl.

[210ox]

I'm reading the comments and I'm amazed. How much attention aroused the usual blackmail. By the way, with the "dirty bomb", waste, etc., there is even more fuss than with the creation of ordinary special ammunition of the RDS1 level

[German A.]

We need to chat about something. And then the clown came out. Everyone didn't fuss like with Iran, but stood up and applauded loudly. What a sensation, Ukraine is the second Israel! They allowed us to have a bomb, and didn't threaten sanctions and bombing. Oh, I forgot, there will be bombing, only from Russia - that's what Biden said. "Zelya, you shouldn't have gone..." In general, we are waiting for the continuation of this corps de ballet. So far, the plan is bombing...

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: impostor

The clown has no fusion technology.

What the hell is TTS for him, smart guy? To get weapons-grade plutonium?

Quote: impostor

The maximum that his specialists are capable of is a dirty bomb.

Its specialists can get what they want to equip the NED, no matter how you humiliate them here. And this is quite serious.

[Bolt cutter]

Its specialists can get what they want to equip the NED

Where from?

[gla172]

... I laughed to tears ....

[Seryoga64]

Quote: gla172

. I laughed to tears..

They didn't come up with it

[boris epstein]

Does it also fly upside down, like their satellite?

[carstorm 11]

Everyone was frightened of course) How are you going to provide this status as a clown?)))

[Thrifty]

Was Ukroina with the status of a nuclear power? There, all such weapons were Soviet. And, hosting someone else's weapons at home, or creating it yourself from scratch is a huge difference! Although, having Yellow Water uranium deposits and nuclear physicists, they can create nuclear weapons. The problem is the creation of mass centrifuges for uranium enrichment, and the financing of such work. This is not less than 10-12 billion dollars for the next 10 years. That is, to take every year a billion for the transit of gas, and in 10 years, as part of NATO on our borders, we will get the owner of our own nuclear weapons. Although, they can solve the problem faster, for a start by buying a couple of nuclear charges from the same Pakistanis, and buying out their old centrifuges from them. Then, they will create their own nuclear weapons in a maximum of three years. Oh, yes, fairy tales that the West will not allow this will remain fairy tales, because everything that is against and to the detriment of Russia is permissible.

[German A.]

You could start with fuel for your power plants, and not buy American or Russian. In any case, such a structure can be smashed with a simple missile strike. And start building until the next

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: German A

You could start with fuel for your power plants, and not buy American or Russian.

In fact, VostGOK covers almost half of the Ukrainian NPPs' fuel needs. And in 5 years, it is planned to operate entirely on its own fuel. The question, of course, is in investments, as usual. Are you even aware that Ukraine has its own uranium mines and mining and processing plants?

[German A.]

I know and posted here. Only an enrichment plant, this is not the production of rods for reactors, and even more so military plutonium, and moreover, this is not yet a bomb ...

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: German A

Only an enrichment plant, this is not the production of rods for reactors, and even more so military plutonium, and moreover, this is not yet a bomb ...

You wrote about fuel, I answered about fuel. What's with the bomb?

[German A.]

Do we continue to discuss Zelensky's statement? Fuel is the first step for a bomb. Small but step.

The enrichment plant does not produce fuel for power plants. It produces the source material, more specifically triuranium octoxide U3O8 ("yellow cake" - one senses uninviting English sarcasm) from a pile of recycled earth. Why he, because he is the most stable uranium oxide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_mining
In conventional mining, ores are processed by grinding the ore materials to a uniform particle size and then treating the ore to extract the uranium by chemical leaching.[3] The milling process commonly yields dry powder-form material consisting of natural uranium, "yellowcake," which is sold on the uranium market as U3O8.

Here is a brief excursion into the production of U235. I don’t know how you are with English, you can just look at the pictures. There is a basic chart at 32 seconds. And starting from 35 seconds, something that is not in Ukraine. Sweeping of uranium hexafluoride gas UF6 to obtain U235.

[nobody75]

The "west" does not have "Sukhumi centrifuges". In addition to the separation of isotopes, it is necessary to further enrich the ore - there the process is long and costly. Ukraine has not even established the production of fuel rods for so many years, but about nuclear weapons ...
Sincerely

[Thrifty]

nobody75-all these problems, if desired and actively helped, for example, by the same Pakistanis, can be solved. The Persians themselves were able to solve the problem with the purchase of centrifuges while under international sanctions!

[nobody75]

The Persians themselves could not do anything ... After Kosovo, an official delegation from Iran came to Moscow ...
Sincerely

[flint]

The presence of nuclear weapons near the ruins will never be allowed by Western masters, because this will be a problem not only for Russia, but also for the West. I wonder how they left nuclear power plants - all this is very fraught ...

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: flint

The presence of nuclear weapons near the ruins will never be allowed by Western masters, because this will be a problem not only for Russia, but also for the West.

And what is the problem for the West is the presence of a small arsenal of nuclear weapons in a country with external (i.e., his, the West) control? Kim with his nuclear blanks is supervised by China - and nothing. Annoying the States? Well, we'll be a little nervous too. There will be constant suspense, but for this, in fact, nuclear weapons are needed.

[flint]

Well, the United States is far from Kim, he worries Japan and South Korea more, but imagine hypothetically that the outskirts will try to use nuclear weapons against Russia? The outskirts, of course, will cease their miserable existence, but the echo of this nuclear cabal will completely cover the whole of Europe too. Europeans, of course, are completely on a leash with amers, but everyone wants to live, even despite the opinion of the owner.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: flint

that okraintsy will try to use nuclear weapons against Russia?

Nuclear weapons are weapons not for use, but for possession.

[Repellent]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

Nuclear weapons are weapons not for use, but for possession

Are the clowns aware?

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Repellent

Are the clowns aware?

Yes.

[Amateur]

Will pieces of fuel rods "from Westinghouse" and radioactive waste from Chernobyl be filled with trash cans and attached to the An-178?
"Enemy of the people" L.P. Beria, unlike D.F. Ustinov, who supervised space, planned the placement of nuclear industry enterprises so that enterprises with the highest scientific status and/or completing the production cycle of "products" are all located on the territory of the Russian Federation.
And he left the countries of the limitrophes "an Indian national hut", and not the opportunity to make a "bomb".

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Lavrenty Palych - was not there..

[fa2998]

The development and storage of a "vigorous" bomb is a VERY long pleasure. And there are also international treaties on the nonproliferation of nuclear weapons. Do they want international sanctions on Ukraine?

[Graz]

why ours will not make a complete blockade of Ukraine. what are they waiting for?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

this is how a clown gets into power don't expect anything good
what we had with Evdokimov what is now in Sumeria

[Poetry]

Gauleiter was completely mad. Wants to be like Kim Jong Un.

[gla172]

... Well, until Kim, he grows and grows ....

[akarfoxhound]

The clown seriously believes that a vigorous loaf can be assembled in a circle of a young technician ???

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Zelensky is an even bigger idiot than I thought. Who would allow Ukraine, who needs an inadequate monkey with a grenade? No one. And the US doesn't need it either.

[Emergency]

The peanut was naughty.

[LZ50]

here is a real clown, no one will give nuclear weapons to these fools, they won’t sell them, they won’t be able to do it themselves. The only option is to make a "dirty" bomb, the worst option is because fools with a glass dick and a dick will break and cut their hands.

[Old warrant officer]

A memorandum is just a statement of some views on some issue without any legal obligations, unlike a treaty. At the time of the signing of this memorandum, it was the United States that was exerting intense pressure on Kravchuk, since the missiles were aimed at the United States. In addition, security guarantees extended only in the event of aggression or its threat with the use of nuclear weapons (clause 4). And, if, God forbid, there were nuclear weapons left in Ukraine, then it would have to be cleaned up without waiting for 2014

[German A.]

Don't make me laugh. Ukraine has never made nuclear warheads, much less thermonuclear ones. Ukraine has uranium mines, but no means of enriching uranium even for nuclear power plants. That is, first it needs to build enrichment facilities, then accumulate enriched uranium-235 or plutonium-239, plutonium-240. Then cobble together a bomb and conduct a nuclear test... In my opinion, it would be easier for Ukraine to fly to the Moon.
And Ukraine can withdraw from anywhere, including the Minsk agreements.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: German A

Well, do not make me laugh.

Yeah, the nuclear program of the DPRK also began in the same way - "well, don't be ridiculous."

[German A.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
- In 1963, North Korea asked the Soviet Union for help in developing nuclear weapons, but was refused.
- The Soviet Union agreed to help North Korea develop a peaceful nuclear energy program, including the training of nuclear scientists
- In 1979, North Korea began to build a second research reactor in Yongbyon, as well as an ore processing plant and a fuel rod fabrication plant
- By 2002, Pakistan had admitted that North Korea had gained access to Pakistan's nuclear technology in the late 1990s.
- On October 9, 2006, North Korea announced it had successfully conducted its first nuclear test

Maybe Ukraine can ask Pakistan. I'm too lazy to look for where the bomb from Pakistan. Who gave what secrets to whom, under what table and for what reasons. Let those who look after the world do this. The only possible thing anyone needed (Pakistan is not considered) was that North Korea had nuclear weapons. For example, for South Korea and Japan to be more accommodating. But the chances of Ukraine getting a bomb are practically 0, but I tell them it's easier to fly to the moon.

[cniza]

Therefore, he demands protection from Russia for Ukraine, including within the framework of the Budapest Memorandum. And if this does not happen, then Kiev will ensure its own security, including the return to a nuclear status.

I don't think it's his idea...

[rocket757]

Of course, not his ... they slipped him such a programmed "bamboo"!
Soaked up and away we go.

[cniza]

Yeah, and apparently he agreed to unleash a war ...

[rocket757]

By the way, and on a trip, for ZYo, it makes sense ... I wriggled out of the direct control of Kolomoisky, at least for a while and now he tweeted, got excited.

[cniza]

The situation is difficult there, the United States does not control everything, there is a situation every man for himself ...

[rocket757]

Well, yes, layouts, there, their own ....

[cniza]

There, under the guise of territorial defense units, oligarchs and politicians create their own armies, it will be another walk in the field ...

[rocket757]

Now it's hard to imagine how it will go.
The level of promotion of the conflict is very high, at the level of government decisions.
About walk the field, it will be possible to talk later, when the current situation is resolved in some way.

[Vasyan1971]

Ukraine can regain its nuclear status

Can it?
And if suddenly she can, then who will allow her?

[Charik]

and he brought the projectile, like chocolate, he carried passports

[Repellent]

It was already. It will end the same.

Russia: Well, I went. Olympics! Everyone won! Hooray!
Ukraine: Well, stand !!!! I have not finished yet. So, if I see at least one of your Urals on my territory, I will make a nuclear bomb.
Russia: Class. Will you do for a long time?
Ukraine: Well, somewhere in half a year.
Russia: Well done, with a technical background, I guess. Call me when you're done. I’ll come, I’m clean.
Ukraine: I'm not joking.
Russia: where will you get Plutonium, my serious?
Ukraine: Russia, sell, eh ?!
Afghanistan: Yes, did anyone sell plutonium to Ukraine in the end! We have hashish and the British contingent are ending, people are crazy about boredom.
USA: NOW NO PLUTONIA !!!! Ukraine! Go cool down, let me indulge a little with Russia. Here you have pies and tea.
Ukraine sniffs tea and runs away singing "How beautiful this world is, look!"

 Source

https://vbulahtin.livejournal.com/3243202.html

[rocket757]

Zelensky threatened to revise the non-nuclear status of Ukraine

. One can respond in the same way as their master with sanctions... GET STARTED!

[Bessik]

The outskirts, even in the days of the USSR, was not a nuclear republic, and now even more so it cannot become!

[Normann]

In order to threaten someone with nuclear weapons, it must be, well, at least, so that someone, purely hypothetically, is ready to provide it. And so scared))

[Dizel200]

Black is white and white is black. Where the world is heading

[Moskovit]

Zelensky takes on too much. The very first who will be against the development of nuclear weapons is the United States. Therefore, after such words, I believe, in the Washington regional committee, they thought about changing the comedian again to the chocolate king. NATO does not smile to have a psycho with a nuclear weapon at hand. Moreover, it is well known that the Ukrainian army is able to shoot missiles anywhere

[Skarpzd]

business then ... dig up a bucket of uranium, enrich it in a centrifuge from a washing machine, assemble the device and that's it. the status of a nuclear power in your pocket.

[Fisherman]

Can't create. They woke up late. Yes, and all the missiles were sent at one time to Iran through the mediation of the United States. The Israeli Knesset for a long time was indignant at the time of the perfidy of the "allies".

[Pavel57]

Even sluggish Europe will not tolerate nuclear weapons in a terrorist state.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Pavel57

Nuclear weapons in a terrorist state

Why is Ukraine suddenly a "terrorist state"?

[flint]

It's all funny. Which of the Western masters of a stupid and Nazi oblizyan will give permission for a grenade and even a nuclear one? The owners have not gone crazy yet :))

[Tramp]

the country is a rogue and a liar who wants to become a nuclear power. Whatever he thinks, the Americans will throw him.

[Gardener91]

Quote: Trump

What does he think the Americans will throw at him.

Probably definitely not tossed. But to gossip around the world with this topic (atomic), they gave the go-ahead.

[riwas]

Zelensky threatened to revise the non-nuclear status of Ukraine

Bunny in a hop.

[Sergey39]

Clown, voiced his humorous video! (((

[voyaka uh]

Technically, Ukraine, by joining forces with Poland and Turkey, will be able to create nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles for their delivery in a short time.
Only international treaties and guarantees can prevent this.

[rocket757]

Quote: voyaka uh

Technically, Ukraine, by joining forces with Poland and Turkey, will be able to

Only in dreams or delusions.
They can do something "dirty", but high-tech, EXPENSIVE weapons ... pf-e, not an option.

[voyaka uh]

That is, in your opinion, three European countries with experience in rocket science and the production of rocket engines, mechanical engineering, chemistry, instrumentation and electronics will not be able to create what North Korea was able to do without the slightest knowledge in these areas?

[rocket757]

And who can say that the Koreans were not helped?
And who can say that the locals already have everything they need to create vigorous arguments?
And who will give money? And who, of those WHO CAN, will not only help, but allow, the monkey to have a big grenade?
There are many questions, who, how, why and why ... who is ready and able to give answers to them?
In theory, everything is possible ... but in practice, everything is there that is necessary.

[Dart2027]

Quote: voyaka uh

That is, in your opinion, three European countries with experience in rocket science and the production of rocket engines

Turkey can and can, but nothing shines for Ukraine and Poland, in any case, the United States will not give it.

Quote: voyaka uh

what North Korea was able to do without the slightest knowledge in these areas

And here is the question. Firstly, the help of China, and secondly, 20 years ago I read that in the mess of the 90s, the UK lured specialists in rocket science from the USSR.

[voyaka uh]

РЇ СЃРѕРіР »Р ° сен.
My point is that the entire production of dangerous and long-range weapons in Europe rests on treaties, permits and prohibitions, and not on the technological inability of countries to develop such weapons.
Therefore, it is dangerous to change this situation.
For example, Russia is deservedly proud of its Iskander BR.
But any medium-sized country in Western Europe can copy and produce such a rocket. Holland there, Sweden. What's more, add a stage and turn it into an IRBM.
Why they don’t: self-prohibitions (so as not to aggravate the situation) and a ban from the United States. For the same reason.
And it is unproductive for Russia to threaten its neighbors with the Iskanders a little. It is possible to achieve that the BR will begin to rivet everything.

[Dart2027]

Quote: voyaka uh

But any medium-sized country in Western Europe can copy and produce such a rocket. Holland there, Sweden.

Hardly. The point here is not the technical ability to create something, but the resources that can be invested in it. Let Sweden try. Technically, she will be able to do it, but ... Under this project, entire industries will have to be created, with which it is then unclear what to do. Plus, the missiles themselves mean little without the army as a whole. For example, there is a division of such missiles, and its air defense is only of short range - will it fight a lot? So you need to create everything else. Well, creating a full-fledged army, such a country will remain simply a beggar, because the army is very expensive. So it turns out that only fairly large and rich countries can afford it, and it’s easier for the rest not to take a steam bath.

[voyaka uh]

"So it turns out that only fairly large and rich countries can afford it," ///
---
Military missiles, if you have noticed, are, on the contrary, engaged in poor countries.
Since this is their only opportunity to express themselves:
"Although I'm poor, but VERY dangerous"

[Dart2027]

Quote: voyaka uh

Since this is their only opportunity to express themselves

Or the only way not to be conquered. The same North Korea threatens the existence of the United States? No way. But the United States has been trying to eliminate it for many years, so we have to survive.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Dart2027

Or the only way not to be conquered. Same North Korea

Do you seriously believe that the status quo of the two Koreas is still observed only because the DPRK has nuclear weapons? And the southerners, in readiness No. 1, are marking time at the 38th parallel, like, "sees the eye, but the tooth is numb"?

Quote: Dart2027

But the United States has been trying to eliminate it for many years,

How? Tell us about the US attempts to "eliminate" the DPRK. Of course, do not cite the war of 1950-1953 as an argument.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

Do you seriously believe that the status quo of the two Koreas is still observed only because the DPRK has nuclear weapons?

Is this weapon needed against the South Caucasus? Hardly.

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

Tell us about the US attempts to "eliminate" the DPRK

Sanctions have been introduced since the 50s. And in the war of 50-53 it is not so easy to say who was the instigator. On the 38th parallel there were constant skirmishes in which everyone was good, and in the South Caucasus there were American troops. And what is characteristic is that the USA still refuses to conclude a peace treaty with the North Caucasus.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Dart2027

Sanctions have been introduced since the 50s.

What do sanctions have to do with "liquidation"?

Quote: Dart2027

And in the war of 50-53, it is not so easy to say who was the instigator.

The instigator of the war is traditionally the one who starts it. The rest is conspiracy theories. On June 25, Kim Il Sung crossed the demo line and took Seoul three days later - so what are the questions?

Quote: Dart2027

And what is characteristic is that the United States still refuses to conclude a peace treaty with the UK.

Is the US at war with North Korea? Since when?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

What do sanctions have to do with "liquidation"?

What does knife threats have to do with robbery?

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

The instigator of the war is traditionally the one who starts it. The rest is conspiracy theories. On June 25, Kim Il Sung crossed the demo line and took Seoul three days later - so what are the questions?

But he himself claimed that this was a response to a similar attempt by the UK. What questions?

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

Is the US at war with North Korea? Since when?

military operations ended on July 27, 1953 with the conclusion of an armistice agreement (signed by the DPRK and a coalition of UN countries led by the United States). The peace treaty between the parties to the conflict was not signed, and formally the United States remains at war with the DPRK. The United States does not have diplomatic relations with the DPRK; Sweden represents their interests there. And since 1958, it has placed its nuclear weapons on the territory of the South Caucasus, after which the UK began working in this direction.

[BABAY22]

Yellow press headline:
The pianist threatened the world. The world is in shock!

[ERsytype]

Quote: 1976AG

Well, firstly, Ukraine never created nuclear weapons, did not have a technological chain and never possessed it. Yes, for some time there was nuclear weapons on its territory, but it never belonged to it. Secondly, the creation of nuclear weapons requires equipment and competencies that Ukraine has NEVER possessed and never had. If you think that it is all so simple, then you are greatly mistaken. Ukraine is not able to master the production of combat aircraft and air defense systems, so it has nothing to even dream about nuclear weapons. Although they can blurt out to the public, of course. As for the Budapest Memorandum, if you are already such a supporter of the rule of law, then explain under what law the United States staged a coup d'état in Ukraine. Or can they break the law? Laws must either be observed by everyone, or then no one should be required to comply with them. And so that the West does what it wants, and Russia poke into different documents there - that will not work.
"all those guarantees that superpowers give in the end are not worth the papers written on them."
Yes. The states have shown that this is the case. When America doesn’t like something, she didn’t give a damn about the documents, which, among other things, she herself signed.
"Zelensky correctly raised the question, you guaranteed - guarantee"
Do not remember what Yanukovych was guaranteed there at one time? And why is it possible for Yanukovych not to comply with guarantees, but not for Zelensky?

That's right, Ukraine only indirectly participated in the chains of creating individual components of nuclear weapons.
But it is possible to create a dirty nuclear charge, and there are also delivery methods.
I don’t know if a dirty charge has already been created, I haven’t seen such information.
But the presence of nuclear power plants in the country and the preservation of spent fuel indicate that when there is nothing to lose, they may try to shoot dirt. Fortunately, the vast majority of Russians live in the European part, next to Ukraine. IMHO, of course.

[TermNachTer]

Rzhu nimagu))) Zeneloh sniffed a bold (white) powder and began to scare everyone))) the cocaine head does not understand a simple thing, one Chernobyl was enough for the geyropa. She will not allow the second. They will put him in a cage, "like a giraffe" and it is not a fact that he will live to see the trial. It will be like with Milosevic.

[Gardener91]

Give this zedurka some herring! The faster the better. And then such "sermons" grow into the brain under the pans of the insane as metastases of the Maidan.

[7 poplar]

for the LARD-EATERS and gayrope - Russia should not implement the Minsk AGREEMENTS! but the LARD-EATERS should!

[agoran]

Nuclear weapons were deployed in the Ukrainian SSR, but they had no right to property, let alone use.
The Sumerians will not be able to create anything under these conditions. Bluff of pure water.
There are many components, it's lazy to paint everything.

[Authority]

Like Zelensky, Hitler at one time also wanted a "vigorous" status for himself ...
Didn't make it.
So the pianist will not have time.
Although I would look at it as an "agricultural" country, you can create at least a teapot for your entire industry.

[sanya_sergant]

Prior to that, in his speech, he accused Russia of "annexing" Crimea, seizing Donbass

Donbass already in Russia? Did I miss something?

[Diviz]

NPP Chernobyl history repeats itself. These people do not need a homeland.

[Pavel57]

Quote: Bessik

The outskirts, even in the days of the USSR, was not a nuclear republic, and now even more so it cannot become!

There is a uranium deposit on the territory of Ukraine.