IL-76MD-90A began flight tests

September 22 made the first flight of an Il-76MD-90А transport aircraft made by Aviastar-SP in Ulyanovsk!

The aircraft, which has a serial number 01-02 and received the registration number RA-78650, was transferred to the flight test station 5 in July of this year. After the completion of ground testing of onboard systems, the aircraft proceeded to flight tests.

On September 22, for the first time, the aircraft broke away from the concrete of the Ulyanovsk-Vostochny airfield under the control of the crew as part of the test pilot, Hero of Russia Nikolai Kuimov (commander), honored test pilot of Russia Vladimir Irinarkhov (2-th pilot), Valery Grechko (navigator) Alexei Zhuravlev (flight engineer) and Sergey Orlov (flight operator). The first flight lasted about 40 minutes and passed in normal mode.

After performing several flights in Ulyanovsk, the car will make a flight to Zhukovsky near Moscow to continue the tests.

The upgraded IL-76MD-90А has a number of significant differences from the IL-76MD production aircraft manufactured by TAPOiCH in Uzbekistan.

Thanks to the use of a new wing and a reinforced chassis, the maximum take-off weight was increased from 190 to 210 tons, and the maximum payload from 47 to 60 tons.

Instead of the previously used D-30KP2 engines, new PS-90А-76 produced by Perm Engine Company OJSC were installed on the aircraft. At the same time, due to the greater thrust of the engines, the length of the takeoff run with the maximum take-off weight decreased from 1750 to 1600 meters, and due to the best 12% fuel efficiency, the flight distance with a load of 52 tons increased from 4000 to 5000 kilometers.

Also, the aircraft received a modern flight-navigation complex and a “glass” crew cabin.

The order of the Government of Russia on the development and organization of the release in Ulyanovsk of a modernized IL-76 was adopted on December 20 of the year 2006. After 5 years and 9 months, the first IL-76 transport aircraft, built at a domestic aircraft factory, took off.

Meanwhile, Aviastar-SP continues to build the next two aircraft (No.01-03 and 01-04), their flight is scheduled for the 2013 year.

Comments

[spender]

I don’t know that something doesn’t work out with BTA, we destroyed it easily, we are reviving with a creak It seems that according to the news, everything is fine and the performance characteristics have improved and navigation, I'm waiting for the specialists to catch up and explain ...
I am glad that we are helping to earn our Russian with Russian engines, and not to someone else’s uncle

[Joker]

Still the old ones would be modernized, in general the fairy tale would be

[FID]

The military did not timely announce the performance characteristics of the new Il-76. On this instance there is no landing complex, there are no warning systems about the attack, there are still some special systems ... It turned out to be an ordinary transporter for transporting the national economy. As a flight copy for testing, it’s good, but it’s not yet suitable for the BTA. I think when the military formulates the TTZ, there will be improvements to the desired condition. In general, a mess! Only in the summer, whether in July, or in August of this year, the military were born TTZ!

[Joker]

Sergey, thanks for such details and then, like fools, they built one under-plane and let's blow it all over the country, which is sad at all, until I began to communicate with you and your desires, I thought that at least everything is fine in aircraft construction, it turns out to be the same mess like everywhere else and all this is traditions "HAS NO ANALOGUES"

[FID]

Yes, nothing, Oleg! There really are no analogues! Our aircraft industry is our only competitive industry in the world. That is why it is trampled with special sadism! Competitors do not need capitalists. Yes, and also Poghosyan!

[spender]

Joker, Oleg here and I like the site because you can get information at first hand. Whose people themselves work in this sector and see the situation with their own eyes, I also read everything okay, but something in my memory "tights", read the comments of the SSI and remembered that they developed without the TK MO, in fact, at their own peril and risk, and that is there with the documentation from Tashkent was (something was not delivered), now they will "bring to mind". Well, okay, how is the penguin's mother "smiling and applauding"

[Odessa]

spender,

how is the penguin's mom "smile and applaud"

Callsign, smile and wave!
And this is anti-flood! On the topic.

[VAF]

Quote: Joker

1 they built a sub-plane and let's blow it all over the country, which is completely sad, until I started talking to you and yours, I thought that in aircraft construction everything was fine with us

Oleg and I will insert my 5 cents. the namesake spoke modestly, but in fact ..... there is NO aircraft for the BTA!
They did an ordinary one (yes. New-old. But verified It-76 for citizens)!

And to bring it to the requirements of the BTA, it’s still ...... in short a lot of time and cost, and the same re-arrangement.

God grant that VTA's employees, even during repairs, would change the D-30KP2 motors to PS-90 and that .. bread, but the plant in St. Russe will work to its fullest, and, in principle, has always worked well. but only last year I opened 12 pieces !!!

[Alex 241]

Hi Seryozha. I think a global breakthrough is not expected in the near future, but at least something is being done, and thanks for the presence of such caring people.

[Odessa]

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[Alex 241]

It remains to clarify whose plan we smoke today?

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

I think a global breakthrough is not expected in the near future

Sasha, hello, +! I don’t understand two things at all. Well, at least I don’t understand.

1. Why did they start collecting IL-76MD-90A, when it was necessary to take and produce IL-76MF ??????

2. Where did they "secure another 10 tons of carrying capacity ?????

Armenians and the Volga-Dnepr already operate completely analogous new Il-79TD-90VD aircraft, one to one and a long time ago with 3 Domes ... but the maximum load that they can lift is 50 tons, but 60 tons really Il-76MF could and can, though it has a cargo compartment size of 7 meters longer, etc.

And here where ???? This is for such like Clear Stump ..... urya .. and rushed, but ..... guys, let's ... "live together"

[Alex 241]

The usual advertising statement: on October 6, we are going with the guys, my friend is in the LII, I will try it, then I will unsubscribe.

[mark021105]

I am not an expert, but if anything, correct it. Il-76 used to be assembled in Tashkent. Given the current realities, it turns out that over the past 5-6 years, production in Ulyanovsk has been established. Now they can and will collect everything that is needed for the needs of Russia.

[d.gksueyjd]

Due to fuel, it takes less fuel on board - more cargo. New chassis + new engines = take-off weight 20 t more (IL76md took off 200 t if correctly calculated)

[VAF]

Quote: d.gksueyjd

Due to fuel, it takes less fuel on board - more cargo.

Dear, you are telling the truths for the 1st year of school on the subject of self-driving, in calculating flight modes for the maximum range and duration!

All life was so in all subspecies of aviation empty-fuel-cargo-range. this is an axiom, but here ... the volume of fuel is the same, but the new engines have a slightly better thrust ratio ... etc.

But I repeat on the old new IL-76TD-90VD, an exact copy of the IL-76MD-90A and which has been in operation for a long time ... the load capacity has been increased to only 50 tons!

the question was ... where else 10 ka, so dear to you ... misalignment (though without a minus )!

[Joker]

Oleg and I will insert my 5 cents. the namesake spoke modestly, but in fact ..... there is NO aircraft for the BTA!
They did an ordinary one (yes. New-old. But verified It-76 for citizens)!

Seryozha, we are being bred and what’s convenient, they did the plane, threw the information in the media, trumpeted it, goofs-uriyayayayayayaaaaa, thanks tsar and god, and after 5 years modernization of the same plane and yuryayayaaaaaaaaa again! But in fact it turned out 1) made an unfinished product 2) completed this product Only now how much money flew into the pipe? It turns out that this is not an example more than if they would immediately do everything. I do not know how much, but I think the assembly itself is installing additional. equipment is worth a lot By the way, thanks to Odessite (thank you very much) I remembered today about Ivashov and the story of how he was leaked, I got votes for the nomination, but the trouble is, I didn’t submit documents for verification on time and I wanted to vote for him (((

[Alex 241]

Yes, those who hold power and do not know what is really happening, they were brought to Zhukovsky in August, something rumbles, well, everything is in order, But the fact that it is either outdated or outdated every year is known only to a narrow circle of specialists Yes, whoever hears them ???????????????

[Joker]

Well, as it were, Putin’s crown chip in the elections was rearmament, but he’s not clear what he’s doing. Here either Putin is a traitor, or he doesn’t know about everything that is happening.

[Alex 241]

Naturally, they pour it into his ears, beautiful teachings show. Damn the game of soldiers !!!!!!!!!!!!

[aleksandroff]

he knows everything. more than yours. damn you when nothing is done, bad. they started to do something worse. it's good that you are not in the government, otherwise it would be a kayuk. and not just a game of soldiers, but at least listen to those in the army. everything is moving. slowly, but moving. and again, Putin served in the KGB and there were and are not fools. minus!

[sleepy]

A.Bushkov wrote about Putin in detail in his book "Vladimir Putin. Colonel Who Becomes Captain". This book has not been seen on sale for a long time, but it could be republished.

[Alex 241]

He served after law school, even a pair of boots without stopping

[Alex 241]

I just want to add: there were rumors why in Chechnya they did not use KA-50.52, MI-28 helicopters, the Arabs said that if we don’t buy them from you, I can’t confirm this. Unfortunately.

[Vito]

Alex 241 Good evening to you.

Quote: Alex 241

Yes, those who hold power and who don’t know what is really happening,

Yes, they all know, only a situation to reverse the will is not enough or desire?

[Alex 241]

Good evening, and YOU, if only I knew. As one historian said, from bloody Sunday they will not kill faith in a good king!

[Vito]

Blessed is someone who believes!
I'm pulling me away from a computer t. Goodbye comrades !!!

[Joker]

Here are opinions immediately divided I personally adhere to Vito’s opinion, Putin is still a former KGB officer, that means he knows something about the army, and when a person knows, you should praise him at least every day, and he will know the current state. If Putin wants to achieve something, mass purges and landings with executions need to be carried out, and in the best case we will stagnate or digrod in place, until I even know which way we are moving, we have no idea what’s common, nothing why The Soviet Union was rising so quickly, because the people had an idea and a goal, well, Stalin also perpetuated corruption in the bud, and now, unfortunately, none of this exists.

[Alex 241]

While we look into the abyss, but when the abyss looks at us .......................

[aleksandroff]

if purges and executions begin now, then those who wanted them will be the first to howl. Putin will be bad again. even worse. he knows what he is doing.

[sleepy]

aleksandroff
Quote: "if purges and executions begin now, those who wanted them will be the first to howl" ...
Still, I want justice and a real fight against corruption.
And there is a fear that under the guise of a revival of Stalinist purges they will get rid of objectionable.
And who will shoot - Bay Tarovtsy have already shot.
What does V. Putin have to do with it?

http://www.gazeta.spb.ru/720671-0/ МВД разместило на сайте госзакупок заказ на приобретение 25 осколочно-фугасных авиационных бомб, предназначенных для поражения военно-промышленных объектов, легкоуязвимой и легкобронированной техники, а также живой силы.

[sleepy]

Corruption under Stalin? Kickbacks under Stalin?

[VAF]

Quote: Joker

Seryozha, we are being bred

Oleg, it’s only left to find out why ?????

Already above and wrote and showed who is hu in this plane .. and what I have in it .. generally not clear. but I’m not arguing that it’s the best that is good, but we don’t have any better, but .... it has long been ....

And the engines have long been PS, and the wing is reinforced, and the chassis and glider. and from the ground can and from highlands and in any country buried for flight, because. fully complies with ICAO standards for noise and emissions and has long been worth KUPOL-III-76M-VD, which allows you to meet the requirements for navigation accuracy in RNP-1 conditions and the consumption is 15% less and the maximum range under 10000 plus, etc. and so on

And then ... settling down .. a new aircraft, and even of its own design Aviastara ?????

I ... u ... her ... dear edition from this ... zoo!

This is for people like Clear Stump and GOP company .... settling down and that's it ... arrived ....... two days of war with almost the Papuans and ... 8 planes are gone ..... but that's all ..

[Alex 241]

Seryozha, you’d use a stormtrooper to fly, you hit it to the point !!!!!!!!!!

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

Seryozha, you’d use a stormtrooper to fly, you hit it to the point!

So I graduated from school according to this profile ... IBA and started with the Su-17M2 ... it later ... ... "retrained"! +!

[Alex 241]

I know Seryozha, I remember your quote about MANPADS in the forehead you know: climbed into the fuselage ..................... hello from the air defense

[Joker]

Seryozha, what kind of model is this, I don’t rummage, to be honest? Of course it looks impressive and everything is high-tech in the cockpit, is this a civil option? Seryozha also wanted to ask you, is it true that 080808 shot down our own aircraft? I was just told from third parties about this, supposedly when they launched the airborne-force squad, they accidentally shot down their own aircraft from the needle because they didn’t answer whose headquarters for a long time. The pilot remained alive, catapulted.

[Alex 241]

What kind of case are you asking about?

[VAF]

Quote: Joker

Is this a civilian version?

Volga-Dneprovsky, one of five!

Quote: Joker

Is it true that 080808 our own plane shot down? I was just told from third parties about it,

True, only the 2nd, 9th and 10th, one of ours. One of the Ossetians ...... where ours, thai pilot alive, and where ... allies ... shot in the air.

[Alex 241]

Seryozha, in connection with this, I have one question: why did the STR and the BIRCH not work?

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

in this regard, I have one question why the STR and the BIRCH did not work?

Sanya Tree is not here at all. if only not Stinger, and only if you see it yourself or a slave .. if it’s open we’ll go to warn, and so ..... and if from different directions then .... well, you have to sweat it for sure.

Rutsky was removed from Stinger ...... although Birch is of little use if it is irradiated from several directions. Yes, and look at her. when you need to either PIM or PFP twist .. not much time.

Well, if you’re just catching up ... then ... we’ve arrived, though you can reach the house if it’s in the motor, but if it’s in the plane, then ..... go build ..... and by parachute

[Alex 241]

Yeah, the bones are overboard, and Mom I can fly.

[Alex 241]

And you’re right, Seryozha, most likely they even shot in one gulp.

[Joker]

Yeah sad it's a shame that this happens, like the 21 century in the yard, are there really no means of recognition

[Alex 241]

I myself am surprised that we had a chance to take off without turning on the SRZO. But the rockets immediately contacted quite categorically: either let them turn it on, or bring them down.

[DIMS]

Ossetians MANPADS were captured Georgian, since the first war. The Georgians were then afraid of our helicopter regiment, which was in South Ossetia. But it was not necessary to apply. Therefore, I don’t think that the Kudars had any possibility of recognition at all.
Well, ours are just a madhouse and a malfunction. No one paid special attention to technology. She was killed in the 19th division in three wars, and the same 42 in general did not even think about the war with someone other than Chechen insurgents. What can I say if they put the T-62 into service, and it will do.

[Alex 241]

With the development of protective equipment, means of destruction are improving, this is dialectics. But with the improvements we have ........................

[White]

And I have such a question, I read on another forum that - Volga-Dnepr is not particularly happy with the IL-76, although the plane is very good, but it has a serious drawback: it has a cargo compartment, there is no telpher and the standard container is not included in width two rows.
Is it true or so someone chatted.

[FID]

The cargo compartment is equipped with two cargo winches installed near the front bulkhead, four electric hoists with a lifting capacity of 2,5 tons and four subracks, the width of which can be changed. For the convenience of loading and unloading, the rear hoists can extend beyond the threshold of the ramp by 5 m. The floor of the cargo compartment is equipped with roller tracks, which makes it possible to load, unload and drop non-self-propelled mono-cargoes.
This is a description of the cargo compartment of a conventional IL-76. Draw your own conclusions.

[White]

Got it !!!

[Dimonanet]

But do not tell me how we are doing with wide-body aircraft? We are building these Ily-76 and Msy-21 here ... they are certainly good, but maybe they hastened ??? Could open a new page in aircraft construction ???

[nycsson]

Good news, what can I say!

[Vadivak]

Quote: nycsson

Good news, what can I say!

Alexey ...... well, you understand

[spender]

Here a little more

КAs soon as the aircraft successfully completes its first test flights, “a contract for several dozen vehicles for the Russian Armed Forces will be concluded,” said Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin at the opening of the forum, RIA Novosti reports.

Earlier this year, the commander of military transport aviation, Lieutenant General Viktor Kachalkin, noted that in accordance with the state armament program, calculated until 2020, in 2014 the supply of modernized heavy aircraft will begin. “We will get 41 Il-76MDM aircraft and 40 Il-76MD-90A aircraft,” General Kachalkin said in early June.

The factory has a task by 2016, launch production of 16 Il-76MD-90A aircraft per year, in turn, said the general director of Aviastar-SP Sergey Dementyev. Under this program, he said, it is planned to recruit additional staff - five thousand people.

While contracts for the purchase of these aircraft have not been concluded, Dementiev admitted, but There are prospects for a state contract for state defense orders - about 90 vehicles, plus commercial and export orders.

The Il-76MDM program provides for the modernization of the Il-76MD combat aircraft, which is in service with the military transport aircraft of the Russian Air Force, and the Il-76MD-90A program - for the production of new aircraft with PS-90A-76 engines, modified wing design, and new ones on Aviastar airborne systems and a "glass" crew cabin.

The cabin of the crew and the flight and navigation complex have been substantially modernized. So, Eight multi-function LCD displays and three smart control panels are now installed in the cockpit. Glazing of the cockpit provides a good overview from the workplace of pilots and navigator.

By plane IL-76MD-90 The Kupol-III-76M digital flight-navigation complex is being installed, which provides solutions to various problems of aircraft navigation. In particular, it is designed to work with navigation databases, including the global base: when preparing a flight plan, when flying along a route, when maneuvering in an aerodrome zone and landing approach.

[VAF]

Quote: spender

We will get 41 Il-76MDM aircraft

Lesha, this is super real, I already wrote above, 123 ARZ makes 12 cars a year. so that you can get more. The main thing is that Perm motors would supply engines.

Now ... so to speak, as always ... a visual aid. for better mastering and ... "consolidation" of the material!

IL-76MD

IL-76MDM

Well, the new cab is not IL-76th:

Here are just an interesting moment looms and as a result .. question: - .... this is understandable. that the civilian Il-76TD-90VD will differ from the military MD'ki due to the military specifics and in the installation of other equipment and systems, about which my dear and deeply respected Seryozha wrote a lot! (that's bent, from ..... feelings, probably therefore, this year ... finally, the GLITS finished testing the IL-76MDM and, so to speak, the plane received a ticket to life I emphasize once again ... this year!
but how then to explain here THIS ..........

[Alex 241]

The Italians bought the A-50, or IL-76 and installed their equipment?

[kadcin-max]

And this is in exchange for Italian tanks ......

[Alex 241]

Or clothes for the Kremlin inhabitants

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

The Italians bought the A-50, or IL-76 and installed their equipment?

Not Sanya .. these are Hindus. The complex itself is Israeli, and Avionics Hindu-Italian!
And by the way, the cockpit did not attach to the top kommenta pilot, now I will fix it!

[Alex 241]

Cut flags like Italy, or am I mistaken? Sorry for the stupidity.

now considered Seryozha, oh old age is not a joy

I also look at the angle of installation of the stabilizer changed.

[d.gksueyjd]

Cool cabin (no armored backs?) Thanks for the photo

[Joker]

but how then to explain this

And this is Seryozha, military secret they themselves mess around there and periodically send news to the tricks so that the tsar’s tsar would fall into his feet more often, but why would they know that we had been pushing him abroad for a long time, that’s the state. my secret for you already left

[Alex 241]

I wonder why not AWACS? It seems to be a NATO bloc country.

[Vito]

I’m an aviation specialist and I apologize in advance to the pilots and techies present on the site, but in my opinion, besides INDIA, such AWACS aircraft, we would at least have 15 pieces. The 20th would not hurt, for our immense MOTHERLAND!
Or do we have such a composition ???

[Joker]

I am not special in state. orders but something tells me that we don’t have a damn thing, this is by analogy with the purchase of fighters, 30 itself, 150 abroad.

[Alex 241]

Previously, the regiment stood in Šauliai, then transferred to Pechory. You see, after Šauliai, to hell with horns, people began to scatter, which is hard to say now.

[BARKAS]

Please explain as an amateur why in a modern airplane a crew of 5 people?

[d.gksueyjd]

For the preparation of the aircraft by the crew on the outside of the base AER, and during combat (by the way, 5 people are few min.6)

[Alex 241]

Aircraft is a collective weapon, there is also a ground crew: technicians, specialists in AO, RLO, AB, TEC, etc. who are preparing the plane for departure, and serving it, and doing all the dirty work, it’s a pity that they forget about it, and few people know. But without their work, not a single plane will fly into the air.

[VAF]

Quote: Vito

Or do we have such a composition ???

Man Vito, we have ... a little bit. Now A-50s with the Bumblebee complex are based in Ivanovo, in the common people (mushroom, grebe, etc.) 2457 DRLO base

Here are just a new one, with a new complex. A-50U is still one ... the second is not ready yet

[Alex 241]

Oh beauty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seryozha sat down with us, while taxiing to the parking lot, damaged the right console on the trees, while the soldiers were waiting for the repairmen to plunder the equipment, then they caught them at the local radio market, they raised decent deadlines. Well, by the way.

[DIMS]

Quote: vaf

but how then to explain this

This is a product of Israel Aerospace Industries, commissioned by India.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/first-aew-il-76-for-india-begins-fligh
t-testing-224518 /

[VAF]

Quote: DIMS

This is a product of Israel Aerospace Industries, commissioned by India.

For a person of smart prompts .. I explain .... I meant that on the planes supplied by the Tashkent civilian plant, the company in the TD version has long ago used all the "novshevstava" for which they tell us in this article, news and give an example. that would not jump off (the usual tactics of uryapatriots and uryapatriots), well, the same civilian car .. and this type will be military. So that's why I attached a photo with our A-50 aircraft. in which all these bells and whistles are the same, and what it is stuffed with, where they did and who led and what were the problems, with names, surnames, passwords and appearances ... I can enlighten ... without your links!

[DIMS]

Next time, do not make riddles so that others do not go into Google

[VAF]

Quote: DIMS

Next time, do not make riddles so that others do not go into Google

But isn’t it easier. in that specific topic in which. Well, you don’t quite understand just listening. and what do not know .. ask or ask?
For example, I always do this for example. and to ask anyone so completely deserving of people who are worthy in all directions here .. and they will tell and show and .. if necessary.
So I'm not shy to ask, and you .. shameful?

Are you going to Google right away? In Google, what we are discussing here will never be written!
Regards,

[DIMS]

Maybe they won’t write. However, your riddle turned out to be his one tooth.

[alexng]

Sergei, I'm sorry to get into the conversation, but I have one question, if I'm aware of course. How are things at the Ulyanovsk aircraft plant? My son works as an aircraft designer at the Irkut corporation and went on a business trip to Ulyanovsk to bring technology up to the Irkut level. So he told me on the phone with emotion: - "Dad, they are still working here on drawing boards." For him it was unexpected and, to put it mildly, without much delight. It was two years ago. What is there now? If there is infa, then throw it off. I think that things are the same at other factories somewhere.

[alexng]

And Sergey left unanswered and even minusanul.

[wasjasibirjac]

it would be better if they were made bigger, rather than counted as a few things

[spender]

Quote: wasjasibirjac

it would be better if they were made bigger, rather than counted as a few things

The main thing is that without haste and emergency in Ulyanovsk, normal production is organized ... Who better than we Russian to know that rush is needed only in three cases ...

[Senzey]

The plane with the old engines was good, but again with a swallow. Happy and fruitful flights to the modernized workaholic!

[strannik595]

this picture is more suitable to the tone of the article

[Wedmak]

Everything is fine, only .. let's move your paws faster! After all, the right car. To him add An-70 as a medium and something of light transport and in a series, a series!

[ra4lhw]

The first flight lasted 28 minutes!

[Moga]

Very good news !!!

[anfreezer]

"The first flight of the new Il-476 transport aircraft, which is a deep modernization of the Il-76, will take place in 2011. According to ITAR-TASS, said the President of the United Aircraft Corporation Alexei Fedorov." Backlog per year .. The trend, however .. Poghosyan, probably, with his "Puper" got lost. But a large and efficient military aviation group is a vital condition for maintaining the combat effectiveness of the Russian Armed Forces.To be convinced of the validity of this, it is enough to look at the map of the roads and railways of Russia and make sure that a significant part of the territory of our country is accessible only with the help of aviation.

[Genry]

In! It will be what to transport tanks in Russia!

[ShturmKGB]

The best place for hangar tanks is that it’s better to transport something useful, for example, humanitarian aid for the United States or Great Britain (the word Great Britain was specially written with a small letter) ...

[Wedmak]

You forgot to put the phrase "humanitarian aid" in quotation marks ...

[ShturmKGB]

New options are impressive! New aircraft practically!

[snek]

Good luck with the new car and its builders!

[gribnik777]

This is of course a transporter. But having tumbled down from the ustatku onto my duffel bags, flying on it seemed akin to a trip on a Meren. I didn't even feel how they took off and how they sat down. SWALLOW-FOOT!

[Normal]

Good news. Now the question is mass. Without BTA there is no airborne. it is difficult to imagine modern aircraft without airborne forces. There will be a mass series means really rise.

[v53993]

Unfortunately, mass production is not mentioned in the article.

[Normal]

I read the comments of SSI vafa and Alex 241 and realized that I’m happy early. As always, PR and propaganda. There will be no series. Anyway, big and soon

[Alex 241]

Volodya You know the main thing all the same people, there will be people, there will be airplanes, and your favorite airborne forces, and who is minus on this subject, I don’t understand. And if again the experts of the extra class will scatter to the markets and secret police, then ......

[Normal]

Alex 241

Good morning, Aleskander.
Unfortunately, a huge part of specialists has already fled. In Ulyanovsk I don’t know how, but in Moscow and the Moscow Region it’s a matter of seams. It’s sad.

Quote: Alex 241

who minuses about this, I do not understand

Do not pay attention. I have a "well-wisher" who minuses all posts. Even congratulating the tankers on the professional holiday, and then neglected. Here, as they say: whatever amusement, if only it would not hang ...

[aleksandroff]

do not particularly listen to others. they don’t know the ways of government. so, pure gag. we will have everything. it’s just after 90s it’s difficult to restore such a colossus. and even more so with such a people. how many do not do bad. and vaf is just a pilot, not a member of the government. and there are military friends. and no one like vaf did anything. everyone says that everything is going and not worth it.

[Normal]

Quote: aleksandroff

do not particularly listen to others. they don’t know the ways of government.

And good morning to you, Alexander.
The ways of government are not so confessed. I live on the same road to the capital with many of them. I know some personally, some through my friends, relatives and classmates. I don’t even know the appointees of our government; I worked under them for several years. So I know what kind of company this is. And probably better than you, so I have no illusions about the authorities

[aleksandroff]

Good morning, Vladimir. I also know some, although I'm not from Moscow. but when you listen to them and those close to them, it also seems that everything is at the level of rumors. whoever is less patriotic finds something to blame, and vice versa. I just want to say that there are shifts everywhere, in all areas. maybe for some contrary to common sense. but in Russia everything is contrary to health. but after all, no matter how scolded, I’m still happy about the main thing that we can put America in place a little. and they listen. which means we are growing. and thank God they took, at the very least, for armament. and again it pleases too.

[FID]

Excuse me for interrupting not being invited, but can’t say where you can watch the progress? I just work in the aviation industry, it would be very interesting.

[aleksandroff]

Sergey, I’m talking about the general condition of the country. and everything is bad - poor, but moved. if the 90s continued, then we would hardly have had an aviation industry and not only it. and now I’m even happy that our pilots began to fly. I don’t know about you, but we didn’t see any salaries. and now they pay very well on time. unless of course work. and I think Sergey, just look around, compare and see the progress in the aviation industry. I think if we woke up in the morning in those days, then everyone would howl. just forgot (thank God, gave people such a feature - forget).

[Yasen Ping]

September 22 made the first flight of an Il-76MD-90А transport aircraft made by Aviastar-SP in Ulyanovsk!

I was pleased with the exclamation mark at the end of the phrase)) I am waiting for Vaf to send it all ....

[GP]

I don’t know if the Ulyanovsk and Tu-shki (episode 204), and the Antonovs (Ruslan were going to produce there) will be pulled, as well as Ilya (76th).

[FID]

Quote: GP

(Ruslan gathered there to produce)

Do not produce. Restore production. Fears are not groundless, although the plant is large!

[GP]

Back in 2009, reported
From office site.
"2009 - Two Tu-204-100V were put into operation .... A project for the production of a new modification of the Tu-204 aircraft, the Tu-204SM model, was launched. At the same time, the production of a new product" 476 "is in full swing at the enterprise. Aviastar has carried out a large-scale work to prepare the enterprise for the resumption of production of heavy transport aircraft An-124-100 Ruslan.

http://www.aviastar-sp.ru/aviastar_ru/index.htm

[Wedmak]

Usually "products" we call a prototype. So don't lie.

[FID]

Quote: Wedmak

Usually "products" we call a prototype.

Why experienced? At the head factories, everything that has the code and stamp C, or CC, is called a "product".

[Wedmak]

So it seems like it happened, or "object" or "product". And all new weapons are always and everywhere secret.

[FID]

Yes, in general, there is nothing particularly new on this machine. Is, motors, but PS-90 still developed in the Union. I do not know.

[Wedmak]

Nobody has yet canceled industrial espionage ....

[Alex 241]

Please enlighten if you own the info.: What is the new PNK, engines, what changes have affected the wing, the chassis. The statement about the glass cabin smiled. And before that, what was it like?

We called everyone a product, and even for voicing the product number it was possible to get hooked, I remember how I blurted out product 01, politely hinted that it is better to keep your tongue shut.

[FID]

Quote: Alex 241

The statement about the glass cabin smiled. And before that, what was it like?

A glass cabin is a euphemism. Simply, instead of electromechanical devices, in front of the pilots - LCD indicators - usually there are 6-8 of them. These displays display all the necessary information. Indicators are called: KPI - a comprehensive flight indicator, KINO - a comprehensive indicator of the navigation situation and indicators of the integrated electronic display system KSEIS. Plus aircraft control panels in automatic modes.

[Alex 241]

Thank you, I just understood the statement literally. Thank God we worked on ergonomics.

[FID]

Yes, not at all! And a new wing .. You see, the motors are different, so the mounting scheme is changing, the mechanisms for releasing slats are changing, then yes .... In the end, the relative length of the wing may increase, but a lot of things.

[Alex 241]

The declared characteristics are given without taking into account the installation of additional equipment on the aircraft.

[FID]

If you mean the landing complex, etc., then yes. Characteristics are given on a bare car, and, as you know, it has not yet flown. After the flight tests, what will happen is hard to say. An example is a superjet. After almost a year of operation in the AFL (Aeroflot), the real range of the aircraft, with a commercial load, is 2400 km, instead of the claimed 4500.

[Alex 241]

I don’t even want to talk about the Superjet, we played around, sawed the money, As a result, we get the same IL with improved ergonomics.

[FID]

Well, I already hear a normal opinion, + to you. Well, the characteristics will improve, the motors will be better, newer avionics. Of course, this plane cannot be called new, but ... The Americans have long been engaged in similar activities: B-52, S-130, S-5, the list goes on.

[Alex 241]

Thank you, BUT it’s a pity of course that the NK engines crushed, I think it would be a breakthrough. Well, at least so the guys who fly have made life easier, and thanks for that.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Alex 241

BUT it’s a pity, of course, that the NK engines crushed ...

No positive news on NK-93? It seems that Putin himself, a few years ago, promised support in his promotion, help to bring his certification and production ..... ...

[Alex 241]

By the way, I have a question about S-130. I saw a shot of take-off from the back of the commander of a ship. So, when he steered, he turned the small steering wheel, at the bottom left, the nose stance does not control the nose pedals on this plane. Do you not know ?, I also clarify the plane was an Arctic version, skiing, but took off from the concrete.

[FID]

At large angles of rotation, when taxiing, for example, the nose stance is controlled by an additional mechanism. It is arranged on all aircraft. On the run and take-off, when the turning angles are small, the bow stance is controlled by pedals.

[FID]

And since 2009, one Tu-204-300 aircraft for the SLO, two Tu-204SM aircraft (for flight tests), and one Il-476 were made to this day. Cool, right? And the factory was the largest in Europe.

[VAF]

Quote: SSI

And since 2009, one Tu-204-300 aircraft for the SLO, two Tu-204SM aircraft (for flight tests), and one Il-476 were made to this day. Cool, right? And the factory was the largest in Europe.

Seryoga, more careful, but now Clear Stump will run .. to hang out from the disorder, and if he finds out. what did he do. rather collected almost 5 years ?????
That’s all then ... generally extinguish the light!

[Odessa]

VAF,

That’s all then ... generally extinguish the light!

Mascara light, throw a grenade!

[Alex 241]

Ticking lads, cabbage soup

[alexng]

Where does it come from?

[aleksandroff]

I think you should not worry. we have, as usual, the bosses from Moscow (especially headed by the president) will arrive, they will immediately find the power. this is always the case in our country. the authorities arrive and there are roads right away. so here is the same.

[v53993]

You can’t do such things in one place, every freshman in the military academy knows about this.

[AIR ZNAK]

The economy also needs this car .. And do not forget that if something happens, civilian transport aviation will be brought in by the Ministry of Defense for good deeds. Among other things, it was civilian planes and crews that were the first (and so far it seems to be the last) to land on an ice airfield in coordination with MAP (from the Krasnoyarsk base airport) and the report also went to the Ministry of Defense. It is worth mentioning the airborne transport missions to supply the High-Latitude expeditions. And this is also civilian. did.

[BARKAS]

It can be assumed that an increase in payload from 47 to 60 tons indicates the mass of a promising new tank.

[Wedmak]

It’s kind of silly to carry one tank on an airplane. Yes, and it is impossible to drop it from the air. But for a couple of new BMDs - it could very well be.

[DIMS]

In one country, riots. By agreement with the government, a limited contingent of troops has been introduced there to protect Russian citizens and property. The rebel forces looted the depots and military units, and use armored vehicles and weapons.

How will this task be solved with the help of BMD?

[Wedmak]

Quote: DIMS

In one country, riots. By agreement with the government, a limited contingent of troops has been introduced there to protect Russian citizens and property. The rebel forces looted the depots and military units, and use armored vehicles and weapons.

I'm afraid in this case this is already a full-scale military operation. To introduce tanks and other armored vehicles against the rebels in the city .... BBBrr ... Airlift of the required number of tanks will take many planes, and a lot of fuel will be consumed. And besides them, people still need there, light equipment, and so on and so forth. It’s easier to send a couple of dozens of tanks by train at once, and to transfer the same BMD and airborne assault planes with airplanes with reinforced anti-tank systems.

[DIMS]

And who will allow you to carry out something full-scale there? Local allowed reinforced battalion and basta.
Fighting with both the lawful and the rebels is clearly not an option.

[Wedmak]

But you yourself set the conditions:

Quote: Wedmak

The rebel forces looted the depots and military units, and use armored vehicles and weapons.

It will be great stupidity to go in there with one reinforced battle. The locals set the conditions, so let them fight ...
Я very I hope that the practice of "zerg rush" is not used in our army and will never be used.

[DIMS]

The second option is not to climb. Observe, carry the corpses of Russian citizens and receive plumes from public opinion in their country

[Wedmak]

Discuss the imaginary situation, and even with the conditions of the local - well, thank you ...))) There are a lot of things to dream up.

[DIMS]

She is not imaginary. This has already happened. But, fortunately, the situation in Kyrgyzstan calmed down

[BARKAS]

The reasons for transporting heavy armored vehicles by air are many, for example, for display at an arms exhibition and simply delivering to customers if other delivery methods are difficult.

[Wedmak]

Well, if so, then yes. I thought a little different application.

[Sasha 19871987]

domestic device, happy, God forbid, will go into a series ...

[Wedmak]

By the way, I remembered who was in the know, it seemed like they had created a very good engine - NK-93, sort of like it was tested, now it is in what condition?

[MI-AS-72]

And there is no it, according to many declared and partially confirmed during the initial stage of testing, the parameters were better than the PS, but their lobbyists turned out to be shitty. There was also a modernization project. Ukraine offered a modernized D-30KP, under the name "Burlak", it is more powerful and more economical according to the statements, but we (Russia) did not even consider this option, it was much more attractive from an economic point of view. And the SS is yesterday, according to ICAO standards for noise and emissions, it has already come almost to the edge, so as soon as the tests are finished, it will not be allowed into Europe by the year 20.

[FID]

As far as I remember, even in our parliament the request was regarding NK-93, but things are still ..

[Alex 241]

This engine can not be launched into the series for 15 years !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The company is almost bankrupt.

[Ivan Tarasov]

Well, 60 tone is what was required.
New promising tanks are on the way, and there already, most likely, the mass will go off scale for 50 tons.
So, in the future, the new machine will be able to easily transfer modern armored vehicles (tanks weighing 57-58 tons).

[Brother Sarych]

Is this still the last Tashkent instance brought to mind or have you already built a new one?

[VAF]

Quote: Brother Sarich

Already built a new one?

New, but that’s what was taken out of Tashkent together with the equipment ....... we don’t recognize it .... at least .. now .... but since they blinded TD-ku, not MD, then .. ..... and the fact that the military didn’t issue TTZs ..... but what about the Urya complex, the President, who was about to take off and was preparing to install the Il-476 on a military vehicle ????? +

[REPA1963]

But in appearance it’s the same 76 as 30 years ago, and by the way they flew quite softly too, though I can’t say anything about landing, I landed on it only once in all other cases there were only take-offs .....

[Alex 241]

Very interesting statement about the number of take-offs and landings please clarify.

Sorry now it dawned, apparently they were landing.

[VAF]

Quote: REPA1963

, landed on it only once in all other cases there were only take-offs .....

This is clear. that from heaven to earth and into battle. but didn’t really only once somewhere tossed for the entire service life ??? +!

[Normal]

Quote: vaf

This is clear. that from heaven to earth and into battle. but didn’t really only once somewhere tossed for the entire service life ??? +!

Hello and respect to the veteran.
Valery probably jumped off. I think I won't be offended if I answer for him.
I think that those who served an urgent in the Airborne Forces, especially before the collapse of the Union, there were not many transfers. From the training camp to the place of permanent service Well, if someone got to Afghanistan then there are 2-3 alterations And if you weren’t in the training camp and didn’t get into Afghanistan, then there’s not just one landing just landing, like mine

[Alex 241]

Once again, I apologize for my post, did not want to offend, especially a person who has epaulets of the same color as mine.

[VAF]

Quote: Normal

I think that I won’t be offended if I answer for him.

My enormous landing !

yes .. not a lot ..... I sincerely believed that with relocation. Well, like like DShB on a new theater (conditional) Well, at least once every three months

And on the An-12th had, in the cargo compartment .. without oxygen?

[Normal]

Quote: vaf

My landing is enormous!

Thank you Sergey and good morning.
Maybe in the 60-70s and more often I had to relocate, then there was such an attitude that the airborne forces should know all the possible theater of operations. And I served in the 80s and we were already sitting still. Ilya stood in my opinion in Pskov and for our service we had in Kirovabad twice. Once when regimental exercises were held. The second time the regiment of our division was transferred to Afghanistan. And so everything on the An-12. Without oxygen it was not necessary - they flew low, somewhere around 000m. - from the loading point to the landing point it was less than 100km

[Bad_gr]

Quote: vaf

And on the An-12th had, in the cargo compartment .. without oxygen?

I am not a paratrooper, but the AN-12 in Afghanistan flew decently with a passenger. The cargo compartment is not airtight, but did not notice that passengers would be a burden. They didn’t fly low, but they just dived to the airfield. In the AN-26, for example, benches stand along the walls, and when approaching the airfield, the plane in a roll included reverse on the screws. The tilt in the cabin was such that if you did not hold on to the bench, you could fall on the wall behind which the pilots, and the airfield was clearly visible in the porthole on the opposite wall.

[MI-AS-72]

Structural restructuring in the aviation industry ended with the creation of a "black hole" for the partial disappearance and absolutely ineffective use of finances, by the way, sovereign ones, when projects 10 ... 20 years ago are "unearthed", they are issued as another "world breakthrough", Then everything quietly goes down on the brakes , the breakthrough turns out to be a bluff, officials and bargaining managers with money, there are no guilty parties, everything is fine, Russia, however.

[Alex 241]

DO NOT SAY BETTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[VAF]

Quote: MI-AS-72

Structural restructuring in the aviation industry ended with the creation of a "black hole" for the partial disappearance and absolutely ineffective use of finances, by the way, sovereign ones, when projects 10 ... 20 years ago are "unearthed", they are issued as another "world breakthrough", Then everything quietly goes down on the brakes , the breakthrough turns out to be a bluff, officials and bargaining managers with money, there are no guilty parties, everything is fine, Russia, however.

Eugene, ++++++ !!!!!

[Alex 241]

Seryozha, this is now called a subtle marketing move. When I hear this, my hand starts looking for a cabaret. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Walker]

Commersants will. And they don’t want to buy for the Motherland.

[Alex 241]

Dear Mikhail, businessmen have been working in the business aviation segment for a long time, or as it is also called business aviation, such machines are needed as air in the army and civil transportation.

[Walker]

Alexander ! I tried to say in a nutshell. But you just said everything for me ...

[Alex 241]

Osta sitting and smoking

[Walker]

Dear Alexander! H
so I wrote =)

[Alex 241]

Mikhail, I wanted to say that no one will invest in our aircraft industry, even buying our cars. Although you are right in some things, some of our planes and helicopters operate on a contract basis abroad, but again this is private capital.

[afire]

here is the news! who complained there that only promises? here you are :) just need a little patience and not scream :)

[Walker]

What is so pleased?

[Walker]

I can only express my opinion on the IL-76, this is a funky plane, I do not understand the specifics, but I do not know the best transporter!

[Alex 241]

I support Misha with two hands !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On the second tube, type NIKOLAY ANISIMOV. There is a song about Ilyusha, our hard worker has been humping the sky across the sky for so many years .. ..Highly recommend.

[dimonanet1]

all is good!

everything is very good!