A big proxy war does not start in any way, infuriating Washington

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We often hear that we live in an era of change, and that not everyone will be able to go through its labyrinths. But in recent decades, it has been as if the era of change has become something permanent. Countries threaten each other with harsh measures up to military conflicts. The sanctions policy has become the de facto norm. Government debt is on the rise. A global problem in the field of medicine has been added, taking millions of people everywhere.

In earlier times, when a critical level of problems was reached, war traditionally began. Moreover, it could start because of the slightest reason. Today the situation has changed in this respect. There are many reasons for war. But instead of a global conflict, there are hybrid “shootouts” and local skirmishes.



Such a state of affairs is unfavorable for an overseas geopolitical player. He needs a solid, large-scale war, and certainly by proxy. But this war does not start. Which infuriates Washington. Already, the Bloomberg information agency has suddenly turned into a disinformation service, passing off wishful thinking - material that Russia "still invaded Ukraine." Then they explained: "they made a mistake, it happens ...".

This suggests that if there is no large-scale military conflict, then the United States is ready to invent it, and in general - to provoke it with stuffing in the largest media. They want to write off their debts and improve their situation with a big war so much that they are already doing everything - including everyday statements about how “sanctions will strike Russia,” and how “China will also fall under these sanctions at the same time.” China, meanwhile, is proposed to be considered a fascist state with all the ensuing geopolitical consequences.

Konstantin Semin reflects on the situation in the issue of Agitprop:

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  1. -9
    7 February 2022 07: 41
    A big proxy war does not start in any way, infuriating Washington

    The image in the mirror does not always correspond to the perception by touch in a dark room...
    When the world begins to understand that you need to fight only for your own interests, “Khana” will come to you ... Yes
    1. +4
      7 February 2022 08: 38
      And what, someone is fighting for other people's interests?
      1. -4
        7 February 2022 08: 42
        Quote: Andrey Moskvin
        And what, someone is fighting for other people's interests?

        Yes ... And you know it very well ...
        1. +4
          7 February 2022 09: 27
          I asked without humor, I seriously did not understand who you are talking about.
  2. +13
    7 February 2022 07: 45

    straight to tears laughing
    - Vladimir Vladimirovich, well, attack Ukraine already
    - Not
    - And if we lift the sanctions?
    - Not
    - Well please.
    - No.
    1. 0
      7 February 2022 07: 56
      Good photo. For those who still call Ukrainians "brothers".
      1. 0
        7 February 2022 15: 11
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        Good photo. For those who still call Ukrainians "brothers".

        Sometimes relatives are hated more than strangers.
  3. +5
    7 February 2022 07: 46
    . The way it is......
  4. +1
    7 February 2022 07: 56
    How many US troops will die in the event of an armed conflict between Russia and Ukraine? If the answer is more than zero, this conflict will not start.
  5. +2
    7 February 2022 08: 06
    “Over there, a hundred yards behind that fence, there are Russian tanks.
    Do you see tanks? And I don't see. And they are!

    wassat
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    2. 0
      9 February 2022 22: 03
      These are virtual tanks! They are much more dangerous than iron ones!
  6. +3
    7 February 2022 08: 08

    Inflation, inflation, INFL-QI-YA.
    And columns of trucks of evil truckers are moving towards the capitals.
    1. 0
      8 February 2022 05: 30
      our truckers "Platon" swallowed did not wince, columns of truckers will not go to the Kremlin
      1. 0
        9 February 2022 22: 05
        Yes, they seem to be going
        1. 0
          10 February 2022 05: 56
          they will not go, they are far from poor.
  7. +1
    7 February 2022 08: 12
    A big proxy war does not start in any way, infuriating Washington
    . They wanted to stir up a cheap one and suddenly !!! those. across, Kolomoisky and K ....
    It's called "who did you want to fool???"
  8. +14
    7 February 2022 08: 22
    The United States itself has long become a fascist state, and publicly signed this. By voting against the UN resolution on the glorification of Nazism. The United States, Canada and Ukraine are only three countries in the world that have so clearly spoken out FOR Nazism.
    1. +3
      7 February 2022 09: 03
      Quote: Pavel73
      By voting against the UN resolution on the glorification of Nazism. The United States, Canada and Ukraine are only three countries in the world that have so clearly spoken out FOR Nazism.

      Naturally! In vain did they warm them up at home or what? It is strange that Australia and the British have not joined them yet. Even if the Nazis are sitting quietly there, there will be an opportunity - they will immediately remember "heil"
    2. 0
      9 February 2022 22: 07
      Judging by the internal events of recent years, the United States has lost its own identity. So: "To the morgue!"
  9. +1
    7 February 2022 08: 32
    Already, the Bloomberg information agency has suddenly turned into a disinformation service, passing off wishful thinking - material that Russia "still invaded Ukraine." Then they explained: “they made a mistake, it happens ...”

    Maybe ours will release material that Canada attacked the United States. Purely for fun.
  10. -2
    7 February 2022 08: 36
    Will we wait for the modern Gavril Princip?
  11. -1
    7 February 2022 08: 42
    In and then they began to advertise their channels, zadolbali!
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  13. +2
    7 February 2022 09: 36
    Yes, "The Great War does not start with the wrong hands," pissing off the bloodthirsty media.

    They want blood so much, they wrote a bunch of articles, they already promised that, and this, but there is no coup in Omerik, no war in Ukraine, for many years already ....
    1. 0
      9 February 2022 18: 03
      "...
      They want blood so much, they wrote a bunch of articles, they already promised that, and this, but there is no coup in Omerik,
      ..."
      - how is this "no coup" ?!
      And do you think Biden - how did he come to power ?!
      Yes, and BLM bled ...
      Let not very much - but noted the same!
      So for now everything is fine.
      It's only the beginning !
      8-)
  14. +5
    7 February 2022 09: 36
    "... Konstantin Semin reflects on the situation in the issue of Agitprop ..."
    __________________________________
    I look at Semin. Sometimes.
    Not because I agree with him, but to watch how propaganda is changing, aimed at destroying the state.

    At first, something that unites many catches on, for example, how good it was in the USSR. And between the lines there is agitation for a "revolution", a coup.
    Delicious propaganda.
    K. Semin prefers to remain silent about the further division of power and complete chaos.
    No programs are offered. You just need to overthrow the "existing regime".
    And then, Kostya, what? Are we curtailing all projects and waiting for you on a star-striped horse?

    Moreover, this is no longer the level of Ukrainian IT specialists.
    1. +2
      7 February 2022 10: 02
      Olga. Cleverly written. It’s just not bad to remember the saying - “Pans fight, but slaves crack their forelocks.” Whatever one may say, there will be no holy war.
      1. +5
        7 February 2022 11: 26
        Kostin "Agitation and Propaganda" has long turned into "Aggregation of Propaganda".
        Interestingly, if you ask Kostya a question, is he in principle against the war or only against the war, which is not in his interests?
        I am against any war.
        But, FIRST OF ALL, I am against the civil war (which K. Semin gently agitates us for).
        Can you please tell me what he said in this video? Nothing!
        But in between times I managed to "throw" thoughts that sanctions are scary, I even managed to push about the oligarchs (a win-win topic), but with numbers, so that we, a simple dish, would be offended that we are beggars ...
        About the nurse, to be clearer. Well, everything about us.
        About himself, Kostya, but he did not tell ... how his business is going, where it is financed from.
        1. +7
          7 February 2022 12: 07
          And at the expense of the nurse, in the video:
          It is a pity for an individual person, of course.
          Among them are by vocation. Their meager percentage. My respect to them!
          But, the majority went to study because it is sooo accessible. Almost everyone! No need to stress.

          I remember a conversation with the office cleaner. I made a remark to her that she washes poorly and not on schedule. I heard the answer "well, you know our salary, for it you only come to work and leave" ...
          - Sorry (I answer), I'm not very interested in what your salary is. We have an agreement with your company. Kindly fulfill the obligations under the contract.
          - Would you work for such a salary? (asks me).
          - Why did you go to work for such a salary? (I answer a question for a question). You agree, that is, you bring down the price on the labor market. And then you don't want to work.
          In the market of services and labor, the same principles apply as with the goods.

          Also with doctors. If you raise the pay for health workers, in a short time all their vacancies will be quickly filled. There will be a shortage of personnel in other areas.
          And this process is endless.

          And it doesn’t matter what the reason for dissatisfaction is (salary or working conditions). The result is the same.

          My friend's girl graduated from high school last year. The whole last year I dreamed of getting married as soon as possible, I didn’t have time to study. She did get married. But I passed the exam badly. Received for a fee. Didn't pull. They returned to their parents. She is going to study nursing this year.
      2. -2
        7 February 2022 11: 35
        It's not entirely clear what you wanted to say. Clearly not in the context of the leading comment.
        Always evaluate your notes like a person with a different head, detached from your thoughts.
        1. 0
          7 February 2022 15: 52
          Quote: Genry
          Always evaluate your notes like a person with a different head, torn from your thoughts.

          That is exactly what she did. Because I already foresee how individual characters will begin to write about how I cynically expressed myself about the nurse (after all, this is sacred!...).
          Broke the comment.
          Few people read large texts.

          PS. thanks for the advice
    2. 0
      7 February 2022 11: 37
      Quote: Olga
      Moreover, this is no longer the level of Ukrainian IT specialists.

      This is the level of the Communist Party, ie. parties specially created to destroy the CPSU and the entire USSR.
      1. 0
        7 February 2022 12: 45
        Quote: Genry
        This is the level of the Communist Party

        Some time ago, yes.
        Now, it's just a pet.
        1. -1
          7 February 2022 12: 57
          Quote: Olga
          Now, it's just a pet.

          And the handles too special.
        2. 0
          7 February 2022 13: 19
          Quote: Olga
          Some time ago, yes.
          Now, it's just a pet.

          This is me about the Communist Party, if anything ...

          And so, yes, I agree.
          That those that others are not created for the benefit of Russia
          1. -9
            7 February 2022 14: 50
            Enlighten please, EP was created for the benefit of Russia?!
            1. 0
              7 February 2022 15: 29
              Quote: p0pulivox
              Enlighten please, EP was created for the benefit of Russia?!

              Don't overdo it, please.
              It was about K. Semin.
              1. -2
                7 February 2022 15: 33
                Olga
                Some time ago, yes.
                Now, it's just a pet.

                Olga
                This is me about the Communist Party, if anything ...
                And what was it about and who distorts?
                1. 0
                  7 February 2022 15: 38
                  Yes, it's about them.
                  So you first read the correspondence. Understand that I have no interest in them. Just like talking about other parties.
                  Anyway, in the context of this post
                  1. -7
                    7 February 2022 15: 57
                    Strange, I'll try to ask the question again, but in a different way:
                    1) Why was the Communist Party created?
                    2) why was the EP created?
                    1. 0
                      7 February 2022 16: 59
                      You are a strange person, I tell you about Thomas, and you tell me about Yeryoma.

                      Well, if it’s about Yeryoma, I’ll say this: to promote lobbying for someone’s interests.
                      I answered your question, and now answer, please, about Thomas. Or rather, what is the difference between the views and goals of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (from June 19.06, 1990 to 1996) from K. Semin's project?
                      1. -5
                        7 February 2022 17: 09
                        With the question of twitching and your comments, it became completely strange and incomprehensible (everything was mixed up - Ukraine, programmers, star-striped horses, Semin, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation):
                        either you have an ideological mess in your head, or you evade a direct answer - why did you mention the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (by the way, without any dates) and which party is worth what ?!
                      2. 0
                        7 February 2022 17: 30
                        Quote: p0pulivox
                        With the question of twitching and your comments, it became completely strange and incomprehensible (everything was mixed up - Ukraine, programmers, star-striped horses, Semin, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation):
                        either you have an ideological mess in your head, or you evade a direct answer - why did you mention the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (by the way, without any dates) and which party is worth what ?!

                        Quote: p0pulivox
                        With the question of twitching and your comments, it became completely strange and incomprehensible (everything was mixed up - Ukraine, programmers, star-striped horses, Semin, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation):
                        either you have an ideological mess in your head, or you evade a direct answer - why did you mention the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (by the way, without any dates) and which party is worth what ?!

                        So if you have problems with understanding, why are you addressing them to me?
                        An ideological mess is when the "Voice of the People" interferes with the "voice of God". It remains to add the "voice of the Communist Party"
                      3. 0
                        7 February 2022 17: 38
                        Quote: Olga
                        An ideological mess is when the "Voice of the People" interferes with the "voice of God". It remains to add the "voice of the Communist Party"

                        I hope you understand this? do not need to chew?
                        Or did someone come up with a nickname for you?
                    2. -2
                      7 February 2022 20: 35
                      Quote: p0pulivox
                      Strange, I'll try to ask the question again, but in a different way:
                      1) Why was the Communist Party created?
                      2) why was the EP created?

                      The Communist Party of the Russian Federation was created to split the CPSU and take control of a large contingent of communists. And the managers were already obedient to the West.

                      United Russia was created to unite and obtain a stable majority in decision-making in .... Consolidation to support the president and in the interests of the country.
                      1. -2
                        8 February 2022 14: 28
                        That's how it is! Only one thing is bad: few people noticed the EP's concern for the people, but these are probably trifles (thirst is nothing, image is everything!) ...
                      2. -2
                        8 February 2022 23: 44
                        Quote: p0pulivox
                        few people noticed the concern of the EP for the people

                        You are too presumptuous to speak for everyone.
                        Russia's economic and political growth since Yeltsin's time has been enormous. The incomes of the population also increased, since it was a problem to feed themselves, and now it’s like buying an iPhone or a Samsung.
                      3. -1
                        9 February 2022 17: 32
                        EP created to unite and obtain a stable majority in decision-making in .... Consolidation on the support of the President and in the interests of the country.

                        You are too presumptuous to speak for everyone.
                        lol
      2. 0
        9 February 2022 18: 07
        "...
        This is the level of the Communist Party, ie. a party specially created for the destruction of the CPSU and the entire USSR.
        ..."
        Why "destroy" it?
        - after the CPSU - destroyed the USSR with its own hands and dissolved itself
        - it must not be destroyed, it must be JUDGED ...
  15. -1
    7 February 2022 09: 53
    Is it not clear?
    trolling from bloomberg "about the invasion" is an analogy with a false pretext for the invasion of Iraq
  16. -1
    7 February 2022 14: 26
    Such a state of affairs is unfavorable for an overseas geopolitical player. He needs a solid, large-scale war, and certainly by proxy. But this war does not start. What pisses Washington off

    Washington already sent an ultimatum to itself in December, rejected it and loses its temper. It's terrible what's going on... and African Americans are probably being lynched. And they made them cry, news on VO: https://warfiles.ru/236844-kak-russkie-istrebiteli-doveli-pilotov-nato-do-nervnogo-sryva.html
  17. -3
    7 February 2022 15: 51
    - And here's a batch of new ties. - With what taste do you prefer Mr. Zelensky?
  18. -2
    7 February 2022 16: 59
    Semin well done! Some say that people like Semin rock the boat. And how did they want to live in cap. state and not to know contradictions? I even heard such words - "we have a positive bourgeoisie." These people want unanimity, but if they are offered the name "junta", they will object, they say, it's too much. Live like under capitalism, and laws like under socialism. Those who were born even in the 60s do not know how our life changed, how the city changed its appearance. Therefore, we did not need propaganda. We saw all the improvements with our own eyes. And this is not some kind of graffiti on the wall. Tourists appreciated it . Now many cities have fallen out of the category of tourist destinations.
  19. +4
    7 February 2022 17: 17
    I wonder where this awareness of the plans of the State Department, the Kremlin, etc., among people who are completely far from even an official at the level of the mayor of an average city, comes from. No hypothetical invasion of Ukraine will help write off any hypothetical US debts (where did the idea come from that they just want to write everything off).
    What the State Department really wants and what plans and strategies it has is known only to the State Department, just like with the Kremlin, even statements to the press are not a sounding of real intentions.
    Perhaps (with a finger to the sky), the US would like Russia to invade Ukraine in order to block gas supplies through SP / SP2 and through Ukraine itself, in order to sell its liquefied gas to the market at a triple price.
  20. -4
    7 February 2022 18: 07
    Quote: Olga
    Quote: Olga
    An ideological mess is when the "Voice of the People" interferes with the "voice of God". It remains to add the "voice of the Communist Party"

    I hope you understand this? do not need to chew?
    Or did someone come up with a nickname for you?

    negative Now it’s clear that you just got a stream of consciousness with attempts at near-patriotic moralizing. Mixed space and time, horses and people...
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    2. 0
      7 February 2022 19: 36
      Quote: p0pulivox
      Now it is clear


      It is impossible not to be glad for a person who begins to find answers. And it doesn't even matter that the answers are distorted, at the level of a sick mind.
      Let's try to see in this case only the good, let's just say, there is progress!

      But, you still need to stop the aggression. Learn to understand from the first time when you are sent to distant orbits***:
      "... So you first read the correspondence. You will understand that I have no interest in them. Just like talking about other parties.
      At least in the context of this post."

      *** I don’t even know if I should have used such a wording, because now you will literally understand about space ... And it will begin ... "... Space and time mixed up ..."
      1. 0
        8 February 2022 14: 22
        It is impossible not to be glad for a person who begins to find answers. And it doesn't even matter that the answers are distorted, at the level of a sick mind.
        Let's try to see in this case only the good, let's just say, there is progress!
        Do not be so categorically attributing your problems to other people. winked
        Are you by any chance a colleague or relative of one of the local "commentators" ?! And then, according to your fiery, but even more confused writings, this can be assumed ... lol
        1. 0
          8 February 2022 17: 16
          Quote: p0pulivox
          You are by chance not a colleague and not a relative of one of the local


          You see, your fantasies about communism and the obsessive thought that you were surrounded by "Kremlebots" (all this has already flashed on the pages of VO) - suggest bad thoughts.
          Actually, therefore, there was no desire to talk with you from the very beginning.
          It's like playing chess with a dove...

          Now, here, they began to look for family ties. Calm down already. Stop being intrusive.
          1. -1
            9 February 2022 17: 46
            You were surrounded by "Kremlebots" (all this has already flashed on the pages of VO)
            Again, you have some kind of extraordinary lightness and confusion in your thoughts: I have never used this term, but if it causes some excitement (?), then it has the right to exist ...
            and there was no desire to talk with you from the very beginning.
            It's like playing chess with a dove...
            And yes, no obtrusiveness, our "fascinating" correspondence was spontaneous, after all, no one forced you into it (maybe just a call of duty?! winked ) but still, "madame", let me ask you - do you happen to have megalomania ?! lol
  21. -2
    7 February 2022 22: 51
    Another possible scenario

    Historical analogy
    1. -1
      10 February 2022 11: 17
      The year in the date of publication is not entirely clear, if we are talking about 1939, then, it seems, there were no colonels yet.
      1. -1
        11 February 2022 00: 49
        Is the newspaper True lying?