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F-35C carrier-based fighters quickly rust

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The secret stealth coating of the American F-35C fighters turned out to be sensitive to the effects of sea salt. According to the American edition of The Drive, the latest US Navy fighters are covered with rust.


F-35C carrier-based fighters, which are part of the US Navy Carrier Air Wing, began to rust after several months at sea. As it turned out, the radar-absorbing coating, which makes aircraft "invisible" to radar, does not withstand the effects of sea salt. This is the conclusion reached by American experts who studied images of F-35C fighters from the VFA-147 Argonauts strike fighter squadron, which is part of the USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70) aircraft carrier. Photos distributed by the US Department of Defense Visual Information Service (DVIDS).




It turned out that after several months of being at sea, sea salt in the air begins to adversely affect the expensive stealth coating of aircraft, leading to its damage. Rust streaks appeared on aircraft exposed to sea air, and corrosion of the outer skin was also noted. Most likely, these damages reduce stealth, but this is inaccurate, the newspaper writes.



The Pentagon does not comment on the pictures of aircraft with rust spots, perhaps the conclusions will follow later, after the first operational deployment of the aircraft carrier is completed and the results of the operation of the F-35C fighters are summed up.

Note that the sensitivity to the marine environment for the secret stealth coating of the F-35 fighters was not the only problem. As previously reported, F-35 fighters are not recommended to be in supersonic mode for a long time, as this leads to critical damage to a very expensive coating.
Photos used:
https://twitter.com/CVN70/ DVIDS
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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 30 January 2022 10: 13
    +11
    Well... one thing or the other is wrong with this one with this super plane... everything falls and falls into the sea, this flying piece of gold... more than one accident.
    I wonder what will be the percentage of accidents from the total number of fighters produced? what
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 30 January 2022 10: 18
      +9
      The plane is "raw" ... they were in a hurry, so they either cheated with the results of checks / tests, or were forced to make some "sacrifices" for the sake of other advantages ... if there are any, of course.
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 30 January 2022 10: 30
        +1
        The Americans are working on a new stealth coating.
        . Following the F-22, the F-117 and F-35 received a new mirror finish. Yesterday, January 25, thedrive.com portal reported that aircraft with an unusual coloring were seen at Nellis Air Force Base.

        Previously, spotters published pictures of the F-22 fighter and the Model 401 experimental aircraft, but now the F-117 and F-35 got into their lenses. And if the previously unusual appearance raised a number of questions, now it becomes clear that the United States is experimenting with a new coating for stealth.


        The Drive points out that the new coating changes color from matte to mirror-like depending on the viewing angle. It is most likely that the US Air Force returned to the idea of ​​the SENIOR SPUD program of the 90s, when mirror-metal finishes were tested on F-117 aircraft. The program tested ways to significantly reduce aircraft infrared radiation.



        F-35 with a new type of coating
        thedrive.com

        F-35 with a new type of coating
        thedrive.com

        F-22 with a new type of coating
        thedrive.com


        https://warspot.ru/21358-novaya-kozha-dlya-stelsov
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 30 January 2022 11: 02
          +5
          Working on new surfaces... it's logical and justified.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 30 January 2022 17: 09
            +3
            For more than a decade they have been developing "invisibles" and still
            could not develop a coating that would not rust?
            Maybe something is wrong with the very idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXb"covering" the plane with something? what
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 30 January 2022 17: 27
              +2
              So how many people fight with corrosion and nothing. Just slow down, and then only for a while.
              To those who come up with a highly effective method of protection, affordable and not overly expensive, a monument will be erected, for centuries!
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 30 January 2022 18: 41
                +3
                Neither gold nor titanium rusts. But with "invisibility" everything is bad with them. wink
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 30 January 2022 18: 46
                  +2
                  So the price of such a product is not small, there are different nuances, they interfere ...
                  It is clear that for the weapons of the fatherland, nothing is a pity, but there is a limit to everything.
            2. abrakadabre
              abrakadabre 31 January 2022 10: 46
              +1
              still
              could not develop a coating that would not rust?
              It is their aviation duralumin that is rusting. Secret composition wassat
              Finally, let them follow the example of the gypsies, and cover the plane with a coating of pure gold. It will be rich and expensive. And it won't rust.
        2. alex neym_2
          alex neym_2 30 January 2022 11: 02
          +5
          Cover, do not cover with all sorts of "super", but there is no salvation from the "secret" weapon, codenamed "RZHA", because "nothing lasts forever under the moon" ...
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 30 January 2022 12: 40
            +3
            Quote: aleks neym_2
            Cover, don't cover with all sorts of "super"

            Either prime or don't prime...
        3. El Chuvachino
          El Chuvachino 30 January 2022 12: 47
          +5
          Bullshit. There is no "mirror" coating. One clown said somewhere, and everyone repeats. This f-22 is just naked and uncoated, so it looks unusual.
      2. SSR
        SSR 30 January 2022 10: 32
        +8
        Quote: rocket757
        or were forced to make some "sacrifices" for the sake of other advantages ...

        But in the salty "fog" they should have protested?
        What are the basics.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 30 January 2022 11: 03
          +1
          They are in search ... and yes, they were in a hurry.
          It is possible and so, if in the future it will be possible to correct / redo it.
          1. Blacksmith 55
            Blacksmith 55 30 January 2022 11: 13
            +2
            I offer the Americans an option: maybe you will try to desalinate the sea. ))))))
        2. Sergey BM
          Sergey BM 30 January 2022 11: 37
          +2
          Perhaps even most likely they tested several compositions
          And then, according to the results of modeling or something else, they chose not the most resistant and thick one with a large amount of binder, but at the lower limit satisfying the minimum requirements.
          But the glider is lighter.
          Development is always a path of compromise.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 30 January 2022 11: 50
            0
            They are working, looking for new technical/technological solutions.
            So it's a natural process.
        3. alesmart
          alesmart 30 January 2022 12: 48
          0
          They tested it, it turned out to be not very good, so it’s necessary to hand it over.
    2. fa2998
      fa2998 30 January 2022 15: 18
      -3
      Shares of a percent. 1% is about 7,4 aircraft. If we compare it with our Su-57s, then in January 2022, out of 2 produced, one crashed, calculate the percentage yourself hi hi
      1. anykin
        anykin 30 January 2022 18: 41
        +1
        Quote: fa2998
        out of 2 produced, one crashed - calculate the percentage yourself

        Of those put into operation?
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 30 January 2022 10: 15
    +3
    F-35C carrier-based fighters quickly rust
    . The most, most massive, universal solvent in the world....sea water. Talk about corrosion .... so far, an invincible problem!
  3. paul3390
    paul3390 30 January 2022 10: 16
    +15
    I didn’t understand something - how can a type of stealth coating rust? Is it with iron filings??
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 30 January 2022 10: 21
      0
      Maybe the coating itself is covered with some kind of crust as a result of chemical reactions with humidity, sea water, temperature, solar radiation, wind loads, etc.
      There is nothing eternal on Earth... everything is destroyed under the influence of the environment.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 30 January 2022 10: 49
        +1
        Quote: Lech from Android.

        There is nothing eternal on Earth... everything is destroyed under the influence of the environment.

        But turtles, crocodiles and parrots can argue with you. Eternal from the word "age".
    2. Arkadich
      Arkadich 30 January 2022 10: 30
      +4
      The composition is, of course, secret, but there is metal in the composition, perhaps this is not rust, because the stealth coating is not only the composition, but also of different thickness in the cut, i.e. roughness and can clog salt. In general, stealth is a capricious thing back in the Middle East 5 years ago, the F22 had problems.
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 30 January 2022 10: 49
      +4
      Absolutely.
      With iron filings.
      The composition of the paint contains small iron "diamonds" and elements of a different shape.
      They help reflect radio waves and absorb them into airframe composites, turning them into heat.
      There is no return signal to the radar, or the signal is very weak.
    4. Sergey BM
      Sergey BM 30 January 2022 10: 51
      +7
      Well, of course with iron, with what else ?!
      The most common ferromagnet.
      Carbonyl iron, graphite and binder.
      They put a little binder, to save weight, that's all the problems ...
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 January 2022 10: 18
    +2
    The newest US Navy fighter jets are rusting
    Obviously, when they developed the "most secret" coating, they did not think that naval aviation was connected with the sea, which, in turn, was salty, and salt did not favorably affect not only the coating. And this despite the fact that to date 966 shortcomings of two categories have been identified. The more serious 1st included 111 flaws. What will representatives of the "Penguin" sect say to this?
  5. yuriy55
    yuriy55 30 January 2022 10: 18
    +1
    The most important thing is the availability of evidence of American money thrown to the wind ...
    It's nice to realize that the F-35 is a very clumsy job, where advertising is the main performance characteristics. smile
  6. Seryoga64
    Seryoga64 30 January 2022 10: 19
    -4
    As previously reported, F-35 fighters are not recommended to be in supersonic mode for a long time, as this leads to critical damage to a very expensive coating.

    Yes, in general, turn it off to hell, otherwise there won’t be enough money to change the coating after each flight laughing
  7. A.K.
    A.K. 30 January 2022 10: 19
    +1
    It’s interesting how they tested it if it’s like a sea-based aircraft and rusted after a couple of months, even Ladas don’t rust like that anymore laughing laughing laughing
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 30 January 2022 10: 25
    +3
    Where did these journalists see rust? I see that the last, finishing coat of paint is just peeling off.
    based on epoxy, with anti-corrosion paint additives. Delivery to our aircraft paint shop is carried out by the customer, all parts that do not require painting are protected by grease at the expense of the customer. Payment by barter is possible !!! bully
  9. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 30 January 2022 10: 27
    +1
    Apparently, the expert believes that this aircraft is made of automotive metal and covered with a primer and paint, if damaged, it begins to rust. Why multiply such nonsense is not clear.
  10. venik
    venik 30 January 2022 10: 27
    +1
    "...Note that the sensitivity to the marine environment for the secret stealth coating of the F-35 fighters was not the only problem. As previously reported, F-35 fighters are not recommended to be in supersonic mode for a long time, as this leads to critical damage to a very expensive coating. ..."
    ======
    What can you do? The advertisement is engine of the trade! The main thing is to "promote" - and there at least "grass does not grow"! This "most inconspicuous", "the most perfect", "the most advanced", "the most automated", "the most unsurpassed" pepelats in operation turned out to be "not very" ... As expected.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 30 January 2022 10: 31
      0
      While braggarts live in the world, We must glorify our fate! What a blue sky, We are not supporters of robbery: A braggart does not need a knife, you will sing a little to him - And do with him what you want!

      smile
      1. venik
        venik 30 January 2022 11: 01
        -2
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        While braggarts live in the world, We must glorify our fate! What a blue sky, We are not supporters of robbery: A braggart does not need a knife, you will sing a little to him - And do with him what you want!

        smile

        =====
        Dear Lech from a distant Android ( good drinks ) don’t take it as boasting, but since the 2000s, when information about the development of a “super-duper” fighter (F-25) had just begun to appear, I, as a SA “jacket” (now retired), was constantly tormented by one question : And HOW are they going to SERVE this "miracle of nature" and "engineering thought" ??? For some reason, a "bearded" anecdote immediately came to mind: "...Dear passengers, please fasten your seat belts - now we, together with all this garbage on board, will try to take off..."
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 30 January 2022 11: 47
          +2
          "And HOW are they going to SERVE this "miracle of nature" and "engineering thought" ???" ///
          ----
          I can satisfy your curiosity. More technicians are required for inter-flight maintenance of the F-35 than for maintenance of 4th generation aircraft. Separately check visually and with the help of devices the condition of the stealth cover.
          But checking the electronics of the aircraft is simpler: a laptop is connected, and infa from all sensors of the engine, radar, and other systems is instantly on the screen.
          In general: more technicians - more expensive maintenance.
          1. venik
            venik 30 January 2022 12: 45
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            I can satisfy your curiosity.

            Quote: voyaka uh
            In general: more technicians - more expensive maintenance.

            =======
            Thanks, Alex! drinks But I somehow immediately thought about it! Actually, this is exactly what he meant by quoting the "bearded" anecdote.
          2. OlegRetired
            OlegRetired 30 January 2022 14: 20
            -3
            Tell me, otherwise I'm a hose. There are stations of the early warning system of the Voronezh type, so they even see a flock of birds on that hemisphere, but there is no metal in them, but here is a whole plane. What is the meaning of this stealth? I don’t believe that at the missile launch range, the Sushka radar will not detect it, but they also fly with the A50 AWACS aircraft. It turns out that against the Russian Aerospace Forces this is zilch. Then why such an expensive plane, to bomb the Papuans? So they generally have no air force and radar. The question is not ironic, seriously.. Thanks in advance for your answer.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 30 January 2022 15: 37
              -1
              Stations like Voronezh - early warning.
              They inform the VKS: from the airfield of such and such in the direction of such and such something took off.
              The accuracy of determining the coordinates of an object in the air is + - a couple of kilometers.
              Is there any benefit from this? - of course I have. You can send interceptors to meet this something, you can warn air defense systems.
              But not more. It is impossible to shoot down with the help of Voronezh.
              Here you need accurate guidance in the centimeter-decimeter range of radio waves.
              And here's the catch: in these ranges, stealth is radio-inconspicuous. A weak return signal does not allow you to capture the target and launch the STAR missile.
              1. OlegRetired
                OlegRetired 30 January 2022 15: 46
                -4
                Thank you, I'll take a closer look at the topic.
                1. Momento
                  Momento 30 January 2022 22: 06
                  -2
                  I don’t know how true this is, but from a bourgeois site:
              2. Timon2155
                Timon2155 30 January 2022 21: 27
                0
                It just doesn't allow you to capture the target !? The range of detection and tracking of a stealth aircraft is reduced, no more.
  11. Thrifty
    Thrifty 30 January 2022 10: 30
    +1
    In general, metals are primarily susceptible to corrosion, which means that most of the coating contains metalloids, or metal tapes are woven into the coating itself in thin layers or strips. Which is a "sandwich" with a high content of oxides or metals of various compositions and groups. That allows you to develop new methods for remotely searching for unknowns like f35 !!!
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 30 January 2022 11: 06
      -4
      There are metal particles of complex shapes, and possibly microchips.
      1. venik
        venik 30 January 2022 12: 03
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        There are metal particles of complex shapes, and possibly microchips.

        ======
        Microchips??? belay fool Alexei, are you kidding me?
        The principle of interference absorption when reflected from layered structures works there! This is a "sandwich" of conductive and dielectric materials, in which the waves "reflected" (more precisely, scattered in the opposite direction) cancel each other out). That is why such a coating is very effective in the millimeter range, less effective in the centimeter range, almost ineffective in the decimeter range and absolutely ineffective in the meter or more wavelength range (for effective absorption of EM waves, the coating thickness must be COMPATIBLE with the wavelength!).
        Well, since waves almost always fall on an object not at a right angle, then conductive layers are flat grids with cells of various shapes.
        Here is actually
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 30 January 2022 12: 09
          -5
          Microchips are sensors, not means of reflection-absorption.
          smile
          1. venik
            venik 30 January 2022 13: 04
            +2
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Microchips are sensors, not means of reflection-absorption.
            smile

            --------
            Alexei! Have you decided to make fun today? Radar radiation sensors are essentially receiving antennas! If a microchip is NEEDED somewhere, it is in the device for processing data from different sensors!
            Although, I admit that in the "Penguin" a separate processor could be "attached" to EACH sensor! With these Yankees - it will become! What can you not do in order to increase the price of the design!
    2. Sergey BM
      Sergey BM 30 January 2022 11: 27
      +2
      Fuck
      Let's put the metalloid there in the form of graphite
      But the rest of the text is such complete nonsense ...
    3. venik
      venik 30 January 2022 11: 46
      +2
      Quote: Thrifty
      In general, metals are primarily susceptible to corrosion, which means that most of the coating contains metalloids, or metal tapes in thin layers

      =======
      Everything is exactly like that! The radio absorbing coating is based on the principle of interference absorption, when layers with high electrical conductivity are interspersed with layers with low electrical conductivity.
      The problem with "Penguin" apparently consists either in low adhesion (adhesion of layers with different conductivity) or in the strength of the upper (protective) layer ....
  12. Sergey BM
    Sergey BM 30 January 2022 10: 35
    -7
    Our media constantly find some kind of crap about the F-35, etc. to the delight of local scoffers and not funny "jokers".
    Meanwhile, it is self-evident that the problems of the F-35 were not even close to the problems of domestic aircraft.
    While the commentators are scoffing and scoffing, the F-35 is occupying the market.
    "And Vaska listens and eats," that's all.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 30 January 2022 10: 39
      +5
      Describe the F-35 market ... to whom, how many and for what money aircraft were sold and what the burden on the budget of countries is this purchase. hi
      1. Sergey BM
        Sergey BM 30 January 2022 10: 48
        -10
        I do not intend to describe anything to you for lack of time, desire, etc.
        Except for a reward.
        But now I'm busy, on watch...
        Discover "google.com"
        Paste into the address bar of the browser, and then write your question.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 30 January 2022 11: 11
          +3
          smile Everything has been done a long time ago ... so your Vaska will not go far ...
          not all countries can afford to buy these fighters ... some even refused ... your argument is not valid. hi
      2. venik
        venik 30 January 2022 12: 31
        0
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Describe the F-35 market ... to whom, how many and for what money aircraft were sold and what the burden on the budget of countries is this purchase. hi

        ======
        I don’t know who rushed to “minus” you so zealously, but these are people who are clearly “out of touch”!
        In fact - the problem of "Penguin" is not so much in selling pricehow much in cost flight hour (which includes, incl. and the cost of inter-flight service). But it is precisely the cost of this "inter-flight service" of the "Penguin" that is EXTRAORDINARY !!! By the way, the "Raptor" (F-22) - too! That is why the "Raptors" produced much less than planned and operate them extremely limited. including their use in areas with high dust content in the air leads to the fact that the RP coating has to be restored almost after each flight! And oh, how expensive!
    2. kot423
      kot423 30 January 2022 10: 41
      +6
      Quote: Sergey BM
      The F-35 is taking over the market.

      I hesitate to ask - in what way? With a "colt" at the temple of mattress vassals who have done their best from threats in the form of sanctions and are forced to take raw bullshit?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 30 January 2022 11: 08
        -4
        Vice versa. There is a fight going on for them.
        The queue for 6-7 years ahead.
        The plant works 24 X 7 X 365
        The Swiss and Finns chose them as the only fighter for their Air Force.
        1. kot423
          kot423 30 January 2022 11: 16
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          There is a fight going on for them.
          The queue for 6-7 years ahead.

          You are the United Arab Emirates, Spain, the Britons, even your own (when your lobby in the mattress was populated about f 22) say ... That's what they will laugh at. And the fact that all sorts of small mongrels (such as Poles, tribalts, etc.) are standing in line is not an indicator, but simply show-off due to loans for maintenance and purchase from the same mattresses.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 30 January 2022 11: 21
            0
            F-35 was chosen by South Korea, Japan, Singapore, Israel, Italy, Australia, Britain, Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Poland, Switzerland, Finland.
            Many of them increased the order after operating experience
            1. kot423
              kot423 30 January 2022 11: 27
              +2
              Quote: voyaka uh
              F-35 chose

              There is no time to google, but with the same success, you can list at least as many countries that have abandoned the penguin.
        2. venik
          venik 30 January 2022 13: 11
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          The Swiss and Finns chose them as the only fighter for their Air Force.

          =======
          It remains only to find out: WHAT they were promised if the "Penguins" were adopted as the "only fighter" and WHAT they threatened as a refusal? bully

          lol
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 30 January 2022 13: 34
            +4
            They didn't threaten anything. The Finns had Hornets.
            If the Finns had chosen to replace the Super Hornets, then the Americans would have been very pleased too. But they weren't chosen.
            The Swiss are the same. They replaced the Hornets with the F-35, although the Super Hornet was an option.
            But who needs the outgoing 4th generation as a promising aircraft for the Air Force?

            Do not look for conspiracies where there are none.
      2. Avior
        Avior 30 January 2022 11: 18
        +2
        Especially the Turks.
        1. kot423
          kot423 30 January 2022 11: 22
          0
          Quote: Avior
          Especially the Turks.

          And what about the Turks? They did not cave in under the mattresses with the purchase of C 400, the mattresses made the fingers like a fan "indicatively" punished the vassal in science by others. (which confirms my 1st post about the Colt). At the same time, the Turks began to drop the popularity of fu 35, declaring to the whole world that it is easier to buy another flyer than to mess with a penguin (do not confuse the desire to buy and return your investment in the fu program)
          1. Avior
            Avior 30 January 2022 11: 53
            +6
            You need to figure it out somehow.
            Either they, with a colt at their temples, order to buy planes, or with a colt at their temples, they force them to refuse. But not together
            1. kot423
              kot423 30 January 2022 11: 58
              +2
              Quote: Avior
              You need to figure it out somehow.
              Either they, with a colt at their temples, order to buy planes, or with a colt at their temples, they force them to refuse. But not together

              You are again trying to compare warm with soft. Different conditions - different results. The Turks were PUNISHED for buying missile defense from Russia = the Turks made a demand: either the supply of letaks for participating in the fu 35 program, or the return of the invested dough. And to the rest of their vassals, they STEAM their bullshit (not just a penguin, many examples) under the threat of sanctions if they take something else.
              1. Avior
                Avior 30 January 2022 17: 56
                -1
                The Turks sought f-35, but they were refused
                How do you connect this with the fact that the f-35 is allegedly being sold at gunpoint, God only knows
                1. anykin
                  anykin 30 January 2022 18: 48
                  +1
                  Quote: Avior
                  How do you connect this with the fact that the f-35 is allegedly being sold at gunpoint

                  The delivery of f35 was conditioned by the rejection of competitors' products. Freedom of choice and no pressure?
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 30 January 2022 21: 04
                    0
                    The Turks sought the delivery of f35, but they were forbidden. Is this buying f35 at gunpoint?
                    1. kot423
                      kot423 31 January 2022 00: 04
                      +1
                      Quote: Avior
                      The Turks sought the delivery of f35

                      Do you read the answers to your posts diagonally? Once again: the Turks were forbidden to buy because of the contract with the Russian Federation on S 400. They DID NOT ACHIEVE the purchase of this bullshit, they wanted and want to RETURN their loot invested in the fu 35 program. And you can do this in 2 ways: either get the promised flyers, or make the mattresses return the non-cash to the accounts of Turkey.
                      PS A ban on the purchase of someone else's weapons, except for mattresses, under fear of scamming in joint programs, or sanctions - is this not the barrel of a gun?
                      1. Avior
                        Avior 31 January 2022 00: 37
                        -2
                        They DID NOT ACHIEVE the purchase of this bullshit, they wanted and want to RETURN their loot invested in the fu 35 program.

                        Only after they realized that the Americans could not be persuaded to sell the F-35 to Turkey. And before that....
                        Moscow. 18 July. INTERFAX.RU - Turkey calls on the United States to cancel the decision to refuse to supply it with F-35 fighter-bombers and exclude it from the program for their production, the Turkish Foreign Ministry said.

                        PS A ban on the purchase of someone else's weapons, except for mattresses, under fear of scamming in joint programs, or sanctions - is this not the barrel of a gun?

                        no need to invent - you claim that Turkey is being forced to buy the F-35 at gunpoint, although the situation is exactly the opposite.
                      2. kot423
                        kot423 31 January 2022 00: 51
                        -2
                        Quote: Avior
                        no need to invent

                        Well, if you were banned in Google - I'll chew it:
                        In January 07 Turkey signs a contract with mattresses to participate in the fu 35 program, where it is made a so-called "tier 3 country", which, in addition to buying 100 penguins, also implies the production of a number of components for fu 35.
                        At 18 on the territory of LM flew the first aircraft for Turkey "Lockheed Martin F-35A Lightning II (serial number AT-01, US Air Force number 15-5219, Turkish Air Force number 18-0001)"
                        Then there was a squabble over the C 400.
                        "Turkish news agency Anadolu. According to him, Washington annulled the agreement signed by Ankara in 2007. It provided for the purchase by Turkey of 100 fifth-generation F-35 aircraft, as well as the production of a number of components for another 1000 of these machines. In addition to Turkey, this program, together with The United States is Canada, Australia, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Britain and Denmark."
                        Turkey begins to put pressure on mattresses about 100 letaks, because pick up the loot - deprive yourself of spare parts for fu 16.
                        At the same time, for Turkey, unlike other countries, the absence of this raw bullshit is uncritical, because. starting with the opportunity to purchase other letaks (no matter who), and the beginning of their own development.
                        "[TF-X] Until recently, the British BAE Systems was a consultant in this program, because despite all the deterioration in relations with the West, Britain's relations with Turkey have not deteriorated. In addition, Turkey turned to Russia with a request to supply her with engines that she "I could integrate it into my aircraft. It is quite possible (as an intermediate option) that the Turks will buy a batch of engines from us."
                        That's clearer? That is why (what I wrote above) means that the mattresses are turned inside out with fur, if only to sell their bullshit.
  13. faterdom
    faterdom 30 January 2022 11: 24
    0
    Any St. Petersburg janitor-Uzbek can make the f-35 visible?
    He will receive salt in the Housing Office - and voila, which in the janitor's way means salam alaikum!
    1. Alex_You
      Alex_You 1 February 2022 07: 55
      0
      And that's where they all disappeared to! Belov threw all the janitors to fight the F-35, and not to clear the snow.
  14. nks
    nks 30 January 2022 11: 29
    +4
    after several months at sea, sea salt in the air begins to adversely affect the expensive stealth coating of aircraft, leading to its damage. Rust streaks appeared on aircraft exposed to sea air, and corrosion of the outer skin was also noted.

    The damage to the coating is not visible in the photo, but the fact that there a bunch of oxides from the air settles and gives a patina - it will be so on everything. It will have to be cleaned up.
  15. iouris
    iouris 30 January 2022 11: 41
    0
    This indicates a discrepancy between the F-35C test procedure and the requirements of OTT-VVS-86.
  16. Timur_3
    Timur_3 30 January 2022 12: 21
    -4
    This is victory!
  17. Maks1995
    Maks1995 30 January 2022 12: 27
    +4
    So this news was already 2 years ago.
    Served with new sauce

    And then - all flying fighters do not look so hot. what is ours, what is not ours.
    Overtone - any grains of sand and droplets - this is not a diaper
  18. zwlad
    zwlad 30 January 2022 12: 32
    +2
    So that's why they fall.
    The penguins are trying to wash off the rust in the water.
  19. neurostimulator
    neurostimulator 30 January 2022 12: 53
    +1
    What good photos are attached to the article - just the eye rejoices, both left and right laughing
  20. acetophenone
    acetophenone 30 January 2022 12: 53
    -1
    Apparently, a successful plane turned out. Since our media so unanimously and furiously spit on him.
    1. Dart
      Dart 30 January 2022 18: 18
      -2
      It seems to me that your media is just not ours ... laughing No.
  21. Sergey3
    Sergey3 30 January 2022 13: 38
    0
    I have never heard more unscientific nonsense! Only iron and its alloys can become rusty. Everything else is covered with oxides.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 31 January 2022 10: 44
      0
      Rust is oxide. It is (as it is called) a "red" hydrated Fe_2O_3 oxide.
      1. Sergey3
        Sergey3 31 January 2022 19: 50
        +1
        Rust is a special case of oxide and only applies to iron. Aircraft bodies are not made of iron, they are also made of alloys of aluminum, titanium and plastic.
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 1 February 2022 06: 00
          0
          Yes, I agree.
  22. sen
    sen 30 January 2022 13: 48
    0
    F-35C carrier-based fighters quickly rust

    This is not our military acceptance, we have all military marine equipment tested for salt fog.
  23. Astra55
    Astra55 30 January 2022 14: 12
    +7
    This conclusion was made by American experts who studied the pictures of fighters.

    I have not seen this stealth coating in my eyes, so I have nothing to say about it.
    Unlike the American experts, who, like me, have not seen the plane in their eyes and sitting on the couch today make thoughtful conclusions by looking at pictures on the Internet.
    Today they are exercising the F-35C, tomorrow, without getting up from the couch, having studied publications in the social. networks, they will swear by their mother that MH17 was shot down by the Russians and tank wedges will go to Kiev at the beginning of next week.
    Good "experts".
    1. Strannik96
      Strannik96 30 January 2022 15: 39
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      "And HOW are they going to SERVE this "miracle of nature" and "engineering thought" ???" ///
      ----
      ... But checking the electronics of the aircraft is simpler: a laptop is connected, and infa from all sensors of the engine, radar, and other systems is instantly on the screen.
      In general: more technicians - more expensive maintenance.
      Infa on almost all planes comes to laptops, not only on this plane, but it still needs to be analyzed and this is also not so simple
  24. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 30 January 2022 16: 04
    -3
    In what way, no one expected - and here it is again))) but Lockheed will not be left without money))) if the coverage is restored every six months, then the company is provided with work for 50 years. And if you take into account foreign buyers, then I would be in the place of shareholders "Lockheed" would jump "to the ceiling" - a source of income, almost inexhaustible)))
  25. Kamchatsky
    Kamchatsky 30 January 2022 18: 33
    -1
    The principle of interference absorption when reflected from layered structures works there! This is a "sandwich" of conductive and dielectric materials, in which the waves "reflected" (more precisely, scattered in the opposite direction) cancel each other out). That is why such a coating is very effective in the millimeter range, less effective in the centimeter range, almost ineffective in the decimeter range and absolutely ineffective in the meter or more wavelength range (for effective absorption of EM waves, the coating thickness must be COMPATIBLE with the wavelength!).
    Well, since the waves almost always fall on the object not at a right angle, the conductive layers are flat grids with cells of various shapes.

    Wrapped up!!!
  26. Kamchatsky
    Kamchatsky 30 January 2022 18: 38
    0
    In addition to my previous comment: Kamrad Gridasov is not yet present on the forum, otherwise he would justify to you how much a kilo of nails is!!!
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 30 January 2022 23: 13
      +1
      Do not offend gridasov (grid artificial software).
      It is a good self-learning program. AI. Bot.
      For those 5-6 years that he has been participating in discussions, he has honed quite well.
      Improved style. And expanded the range of discussions.
      1. Kamchatsky
        Kamchatsky 31 January 2022 04: 38
        -1
        It is a good self-learning program. AI. Bot.

        Too bad if so. I read his comments like science fiction.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 31 January 2022 10: 50
          +2
          On the contrary, it is curious.
          So to speak, a clear proof of the existence of artificial intelligence. After all, not a single person, even from the developers of his software, knows what he will give out next time.
  27. APASUS
    APASUS 31 January 2022 09: 01
    0
    It's not rust, it's extra protection. laughing laughing laughing
  28. gridasov
    gridasov 31 January 2022 12: 50
    0
    Firstly, judging by the place where the foci of unnatural color appear, this is not necessarily rust. Secondly, a normal chemist can easily determine the list of materials that exhibit such a property under such conditions. It can be precipitation and it can tell about the location of the aircraft carrier. By the way, this can also be a consequence of the polarization of the aircraft hull from the cables connecting it to the ship's hull. In general, the analysis of the causes can give an objective picture.
  29. Serge-667
    Serge-667 31 January 2022 12: 55
    +1
    . American experts who studied the pictures came to this conclusion ... Most likely ... but this is inaccurate ...


    Actually, everything you need to know on this topic.