The test application of the NLAW anti-tank systems delivered for the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Britain in the Lviv region raised questions from experts

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The test application of the NLAW anti-tank systems delivered for the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Britain in the Lviv region raised questions from experts

A few days after the unloading of the NLAW anti-tank systems supplied by Britain to Ukraine, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already begun to use them. According to Ukrainian sources, at the moment these complexes have not been transferred to the zone of the so-called Joint Forces Operation (JFO). The anti-tank weapons supplied by the British Ministry of Defense were sent to the warehouses of the 184th training center of the armed forces of Ukraine.

We are talking about the training center, which is located near the village of Starichi, Lviv region. The notorious Yavoriv training ground is also located there, on the territory of which American, British and Canadian military instructors have been located since 2014.



It was under the "supervision" of British instructors that the first test use of the NLAW anti-tank systems by the Ukrainian troops took place. At the same time, such an application raised questions even among Ukrainian military experts.

One of the main questions is this: if the Ukrainian army really expects an attack from Russia, then it is extremely difficult to consider the Lviv region as the Ukrainian region that may be among the first to be “under attack”. However, it is in the Lviv region that Ukrainian servicemen receive the skills to use NLAW systems.

Recall that the Lviv region borders on Poland. At the same time, there are enough training grounds in Ukraine in other regions of the country.

In this regard, it is noted that either the training center in Starichi is not the only one where training firing is carried out, or all statements about “preparation for an imminent Russian offensive” are made solely as informational noise that has nothing to do with reality.
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  1. sen
    +21
    28 January 2022 13: 42
    One of the main questions is this: if the Ukrainian army really expects an attack from Russia, then it is extremely difficult to consider the Lviv region as the Ukrainian region that may be among the first to be “under attack”.

    So from him, if anything, it's easier to organize an evacuation. Afghanistan experience.
    1. +11
      28 January 2022 14: 00
      Quote: sen
      So from him, if anything, it's easier to organize an evacuation. Afghanistan experience.

      Yes, and it’s easier to control so that they don’t poke (it doesn’t burn out). bully
      1. +10
        28 January 2022 14: 48
        either the training center in Starichi is not the only one where training firing is carried out, or all statements about “preparation for an imminent Russian offensive” are made solely as informational noise

        There is a third option - they are very afraid that the Vushniks will rush to sell everything to the Ldnrovites. Yes
        1. +2
          28 January 2022 14: 50
          Quote: LIONnvrsk
          There is a third option - they are very afraid that the Vushniks will rush to sell everything to the Ldnrovites.

          This is exactly the option: poked.
          In the Armed Forces of Ukraine, everything is purely for sale. wink
          1. +7
            29 January 2022 01: 07
            You think it's so easy to steal and not sell.
      2. +2
        28 January 2022 15: 32
        Quote: Alex777
        Yes, and it’s easier to control so that they don’t poke (it doesn’t burn out).

        The anti-tank weapons supplied by the British Ministry of Defense were sent to the warehouses of the 184th training center of the armed forces of Ukraine.

        Or maybe they just teach professional stealing and connect with customers.
        But everything is under the control of Western instructors.
        Some of the instructors may eventually sit in the states for a long time as previously consultants to the Russian government.
        1. +3
          28 January 2022 15: 34
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          Or maybe they just teach professional stealing and connect with customers.

          Ukrainians can teach this that the British
          will never come to mind. I know it for sure. laughing
    2. +5
      28 January 2022 14: 02
      Yeah, it’s only 7 km in a straight line to the border with Poland and you can carry it on foot .. lol

    3. +4
      28 January 2022 14: 13
      So from him, if anything, it's easier to organize an evacuation. Afghanistan experience.

      So the Poles will shoot all the defectors on the border. They have already trained on migrants.
      1. +6
        29 January 2022 11: 21
        You can't shoot defectors with ATGMs. laughing
    4. +56
      28 January 2022 14: 13
      Any Banderist will say that it is safest to fight in the Donbass in the Lviv region))
      1. +5
        28 January 2022 20: 58
        It seems that import instructors share this point of view.
  2. +6
    28 January 2022 13: 42
    Either British, American and Canadian military instructors fear that the training grounds
    in other regions of Ukraine, the local population will start throwing rotten eggs at them.
    1. +4
      28 January 2022 13: 45
      As long as the Nazis keep the people in fear, instructors at any training ground in Ukraine have nothing to be afraid of.
      1. +1
        28 January 2022 13: 56
        Quote: Carat
        instructors at any training ground in Ukraine have nothing to be afraid of.

        Dai on the streets too
        1. +5
          28 January 2022 14: 07
          Quote: Seryoga64
          Quote: Carat
          instructors at any training ground in Ukraine have nothing to be afraid of.

          Dai on the streets too


          And on the streets too.
          All the men who could tell the Nazis and instructors on the face work abroad or left for the LDNR.
          1. +1
            28 January 2022 14: 16
            Quote: Carat
            work abroad or went to the LDNR.

            Remained "myahataskrayu"
    2. +4
      28 January 2022 15: 36
      One way or another, the Yavorovsky Polygon and the training center adjacent to it, in principle, are used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine most intensively, and as far as I understand, foreign instructors are mainly taken there - away from the hostilities themselves.

      Dai on the streets too

      Yes, there is no AIM for a long time, they disbanded, the patrol police are now.
      As long as the Nazis keep the people in fear, instructors at any training ground in Ukraine have nothing to be afraid of.

      This is where the friend is probably right.
      1. -2
        28 January 2022 23: 40
        Do you think the comrade has been to Ukraine?
  3. +13
    28 January 2022 13: 43
    At the same time, there are enough training grounds in Ukraine in other regions of the country.


    And what difference does it make on what training ground? If they are used in practice, then obviously not at the training ground.
    1. +4
      28 January 2022 15: 38
      Not to mention the fact that there are only 2 of them like Yavorovsky in Ukraine, if I'm not mistaken, there is also a Desna near Kiev. Everything else is small in comparison.
      1. +2
        28 January 2022 15: 47
        For testing anti-tank systems, small ones will do.
        1. +3
          28 January 2022 18: 15
          I don't understand what could be the reasons not to use one of the best (two best) polygons but to use something else.
          1. +1
            28 January 2022 18: 24
            Quote: alexmach
            I don't understand what could be the reasons not to use one of the best (two best) polygons but to use something else.


            If everything is tested on the 2 best, then why do we need dozens of the worst?
            1. 0
              1 February 2022 07: 07
              Because the conditions at the Yavoriv test site are like a resort and LGBT sex instructors from NATO live on this test site because the conditions are comparable to those in their units.
  4. +15
    28 January 2022 13: 45
    well, they will work out at the training ground and transfer them to the line of contact! what is the question then?
  5. +5
    28 January 2022 13: 47
    In this regard, it is noted that either the training center in Starichi is not the only one where training firing is carried out, or all statements about “preparation for an imminent Russian offensive” are made solely as informational noise that has nothing to do with reality.

    It seems, according to the last paragraph, that the author will be upset if there is no war. what
  6. +6
    28 January 2022 13: 49
    Where is the application? Or is that all? Stretching an owl on a globe, not an article.
    1. +2
      28 January 2022 14: 12
      Quote: Dmitriy444

      Where is the application?

      Well, whose border is nearby and they will hit it.
      1. +2
        28 January 2022 14: 24
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Well, whose border is nearby and they will hit it.


        Near the Ukrainian-Polish border. wink
        1. +1
          28 January 2022 14: 31
          Quote: Carat
          Near the Ukrainian-Polish border.

          Well, Bandera and Poles have long-standing love.
    2. -3
      28 January 2022 14: 41
      Quote: Dmitriy444
      Where is the application? Or is that all? Stretching an owl on a globe, not an article.

      Well, where will Ukraine use anti-tank systems?
      Probably on the Ukrainian-Portuguese border.
      All you need to think about is to understand.
  7. +5
    28 January 2022 13: 49
    From what finger sucked these "experts"?
    Yavorovsky, is better than others for testing such weapons.
    Missiles are being tested at another test site.
    Tanks racing on Goncharovsky.
    request
    1. -3
      28 January 2022 14: 17
      Quote: Barge_watchman
      From what finger sucked these "experts"?

      Pay, anyone will be found
      1. -5
        28 January 2022 15: 23
        name the names. I'll cry...
        1. -4
          28 January 2022 16: 18
          Quote: Barge_watchman
          name the names. I'll cry...

          Read carefully
          WILL FIND
          1. -3
            28 January 2022 17: 03
            Prepayment? belay
            1. -4
              28 January 2022 17: 05
              Quote: Barge_watchman
              Prepayment?

              Do not know. Ask those who will search
              1. -2
                28 January 2022 17: 06
                Then, it's better to pay me, I'll give you not such a chuchu otchabuchu.
                I, and a better expert, have been to that training ground ... winked bully
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                2. -4
                  28 January 2022 17: 14
                  Quote: Barge_watchman
                  Then, it's better to pay me, I'll give you not such a chuchu otchabuchu.

                  I don't need these services.
                  While hi
    2. -1
      28 January 2022 14: 29
      Quote: Barge_watchman
      Yavorovsky, is better than others for testing such weapons.


      And how do you know this?
      "We have a doubt that you, dear man, are a snitch!" (c) Humpback, "The meeting place cannot be changed." laughing
      1. -2
        28 January 2022 15: 24
        "They shot ..." (c)
        Hard to guess? bully
  8. +4
    28 January 2022 13: 53
    Or in the Lvov region, as they believe, we have the least opportunity to "shoot" their activities at the intelligence level.
    1. -4
      28 January 2022 14: 21
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Either in the Lviv region, as they believe, we have the least opportunity to "burn" them

      They will also order Petrov and Basharov, even if they get it on the moon and "Novichok" will poison everyone there
      And the NLAW complexes. Natrut "Novichok" to a shine
  9. +3
    28 January 2022 13: 54
    Probably British and other NATO instructors are afraid to be closer to the Russian border
    1. -3
      28 January 2022 14: 49
      Quote: Graz
      Probably British and other NATO instructors are afraid to be closer to the Russian border


      In the case of a big nix, there are more chances to take their legs to Poland without waiting for their evacuators to arrive.
  10. 0
    28 January 2022 13: 57
    In this regard, it is noted that either the training center in Starichi is not the only one where training firing is carried out, or all statements about “preparation for an imminent Russian offensive” are made solely as informational noise that has nothing to do with reality.

    Either: the technique in the hands of a savage is a piece of iron, or: they don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.
  11. -1
    28 January 2022 14: 04
    Recall that the Lviv region borders on Poland. At the same time, there are enough training grounds in Ukraine in other regions of the country.
    The Greybrites began to understand that if the ATGM fell into the hands of the so-called "militias" (we read Bandera), then Poland would not be good in the first place, then all the bumps would fall on the Greatbrites (as if the United States did not fall into this trap).
  12. -1
    28 January 2022 14: 06
    The article and the screen from the video are sucked out of the article on the Ukrainian military portal, the original video is also there https://mil.in.ua/uk/news/protytankovi-kompleksy-nlaw-vyprobuvani-v-ukrayini/
  13. -1
    28 January 2022 14: 08
    Recall that the Lviv region borders on Poland. At the same time, there are enough training grounds in Ukraine in other regions of the country.
    . Ha, ha, what slow-witted .... yes, it’s more convenient to drape from there !!! Ten minutes to the Canadian... tfu, Polish border!
    1. -4
      28 January 2022 14: 24
      Quote: rocket757
      yes, it’s more convenient to drape from there !!! Ten minutes to the Canadian... tfu, Polish border!

      If the Poles kaklov miss
      1. +2
        28 January 2022 14: 27
        There are no questions for dill ... there are other instructors, they will be allowed in and accepted, allies no matter how.
        1. -3
          28 January 2022 14: 29
          Quote: rocket757
          there are other instructors

          So after all, the servants will run along with the owners
          1. +4
            28 January 2022 14: 49
            So the servants worked out this maneuver for centuries. In 1944, such a drappenmarch was made for the owners that many caught their breath only in Canada. Who survived, of course.
          2. +1
            28 January 2022 16: 59
            Everyone will run, not everyone will run, they will let in, in general, the elect.
            1. -2
              28 January 2022 17: 01
              Quote: rocket757
              Everyone will run, not everyone will run, they will let in, in general, the elect.

              Well, it is clear that the servants will not be allowed
              1. +1
                28 January 2022 17: 17
                Options are possible, but how, what exceptions will be made, these are already their problems.
                1. 0
                  28 January 2022 17: 22
                  Quote: rocket757
                  , that's their problem.

                  The best option is if all this servants dump from the outskirts. In Canada for example
                  1. +3
                    28 January 2022 17: 26
                    Then there will begin skakuasnye jumps!
                    Does the Canadian need it?
                    1. 0
                      28 January 2022 17: 28
                      Quote: rocket757
                      Then there will begin skakuasnye jumps!
                      Does the Canadian need it?

                      There are now skuas rule
                      Descendants of Bandera
                      1. +2
                        28 January 2022 17: 31
                        There, now, a lip-slap is jumping to the tune of minke whales ...
                        Unfortunately, in normal, adequate people, such squalor appears.
                      2. +2
                        28 January 2022 17: 34
                        Quote: rocket757
                        Unfortunately, in normal, adequate people, such squalor appears.

                        Yes, all the way
                        Enough to look at the neighbors
                        In the entire history of independence, not one normal
                      3. +3
                        28 January 2022 17: 38
                        Yes, the selection before the elections was carried out "quality". Alas, alas, ours, there was not even close.
                      4. +1
                        28 January 2022 17: 41
                        Quote: rocket757
                        Yes, the selection before the elections was carried out "quality".

                        Crazy, they chose a clown who, for the amusement of the public, played a member on the piano
                      5. +2
                        28 January 2022 17: 47
                        What they wanted, what they deserved, they got ....
                      6. -1
                        28 January 2022 17: 48
                        Quote: rocket757
                        What they wanted, what they deserved, they got

                        And I don't feel sorry for them at all. request
                      7. +2
                        28 January 2022 17: 52
                        There are regrets, BUT, they themselves, themselves, must correct their lives .... their choice, and now their problem.
                      8. -2
                        28 January 2022 17: 54
                        Quote: rocket757
                        There are regrets

                        Regret, but not pity
                        BUT, they themselves, themselves, must correct their lives .... their choice, and now their problem.

                        That's it, yourself, all by yourself
  14. +8
    28 January 2022 14: 16
    So what are the questions, to these anti-tank systems or to the location of the landfill? What is the article all about? The point of the article is zero. Wasted time.
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  16. +3
    28 January 2022 15: 14
    In this place, it is easier to save and control property. In the environmental protection zone, there are no guarantees that NLAW will be applied for its intended purpose.
  17. 0
    28 January 2022 15: 15
    This toy costs like a car. It is necessary to keep in the parking lot and not refuel. And especially not to shoot)))
  18. +2
    28 January 2022 15: 56
    No, well, they do everything competently - they teach at the training center, and who said that all the "gifts" are now in the warehouses of the training center ?! It is more logical to assume that this is only a part.
    Judging by the comments, one gets the feeling that these clowns are from there.
  19. 0
    28 January 2022 18: 35
    Quote: Nerpa1
    The article and the screenshot from the video are sucked out of the article on the Ukrainian military portal

    Here is another picture
  20. 0
    28 January 2022 18: 48
    If anyone is interested, here is another vidos
  21. +2
    28 January 2022 20: 56
    If the United States is not shy about supplying weapons to Taiwan, which is not recognized by it, in defiance of China, then what prevents us from supplying weapons to the LDNR? In response to the "Jevelins", it is necessary to put "Cornets" in the LDNR so that the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not get bored. In addition, it would not hurt to conduct training in the military specialties of the militia of Donbass.
  22. +1
    28 January 2022 21: 33
    And the experts have no assumptions that the firing in the Lviv region was carried out so as not to aggravate the already tense situation in the east?
    Now each word is not 7, but 777 times should be weighed and considered before being said.
    If Ukraine conducted these exercises in the Kharkiv region, the DNRL and the Russian Federation immediately took it as a clear provocation, and so Britain seems to have set it up, and the fact that the shooting near Lvov is a clear signal that Britain is not going to get into a fight, but and offend Ukraine will not.
    Everyone has their own opinion, but no one really wants to fight, except for those who are especially stubborn on both sides of the barricades. By stubborn, I don’t mean the authorities of different countries, incl. The Russian Federation and Ukraine (they personally do not want to fight and will not, although they talk about it most of all), but couch patriots who want to fight in the abstract, but do not suspect that they will come from the military registration and enlistment office for them, and not for the children of officials))))
  23. 0
    28 January 2022 22: 46
    Considering that the impudent Saks, even from the very beginning, counted on a "partisan" war (until 2014, the Nazis were preparing for sabotage activities in camps), then supplies to the Lviv region are justified. The main thing is to draw Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine. This territory is interesting to the West because Russia will not use nuclear weapons on it. The calculation is that the Soviet Union fought the OUN for decades, surrounded by socialist states ... And now even more so. It is precisely this that is being stressed when talking about the numerous losses of Russia during the invasion of the "hornet's nest".
  24. +2
    28 January 2022 23: 56
    The author does not know the military geography of the USSR. Near Lvov was one of the largest training grounds in the USSR. If I'm not mistaken somewhere around 60 by 60 km. They even conducted exercises of the ATS countries in the 60-80s.
  25. +2
    29 January 2022 09: 42
    I thought the questions would be based on the results of test tests ... And so the propaganda
  26. 0
    30 January 2022 13: 02
    Just Ukraine wants to attack Poland.
  27. 0
    30 January 2022 22: 55
    it’s just that the Ukrainian General Staff understands that only the most inaccessible regions of the country can start a real rebuff. Kiev unambiguously surrenders in plans and everyone dreams of a guerrilla war, ala Bandera.