Russia is in 2nd place, Ukraine is in 22nd place, Belarus is in 52nd place: the latest rating of the armies of the world according to Global Firepower is presented

An updated rating of combat power and equipment of the armies of the world has been presented. This rating is traditionally compiled by the Global Firepower service, whose conclusions are not shared by all military experts.

For many years, the three most powerful armies in the world in this ranking remain unchanged and look like this: the United States of America, Russia, China. At the same time, it is emphasized that all three armies scored points for power and technical equipment during the entire analysis period (the final quarter of 2021 and the first weeks of 2022).

Representatives of GF made the armies of India and Japan into the top five of the strongest armies in the world. At the same time, the Japanese army was designated as stronger and more equipped than the armies of Great Britain and France. By the way, the French army in this ranking was placed one line higher than the British armed forces - 7th against 8th.

The most powerful army among the countries of the post-Soviet space, not counting the Russian Federation, is the army of Ukraine. The compilers of the rating placed it in the 22nd position - after the armies of Saudi Arabia and Taiwan. At the same time, the Ukrainian army is considered stronger than the army of Poland, which is placed on the 24th line.

The army of Belarus, according to representatives of the service that compiled the rating, deserves only 52nd place in the list and is seriously inferior not only to the army of Ukraine, but also to the armies of such states as Singapore, Portugal, Bangladesh. At the same time, the army of Azerbaijan was placed on the 63rd line of the rating, one position higher than the army of Kazakhstan.

The weakest armies among the NATO countries are the Belgian (69th), Lithuanian (85), Slovenian (86), Latvian (94), Estonian (108), Albanian (115), Montenegrin (131) and North Macedonian armies. (132). At the same time, it is noted that only 140 countries of the world out of about 200 were included in the rating.

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[Ingvar 72]

Nonsense, even by the fact that Belarus was placed far after Ukraine. Belarus has one of the most efficient armies in Europe.

[Orange bigg]

. The most powerful army among the countries of the post-Soviet space, not counting the Russian Federation, is the army of Ukraine. The compilers of the rating placed it in the 22nd position - after the armies of Saudi Arabia and Taiwan.

The Ukrainians were subtly trolled. Taiwan is even higher. Although both Taiwan and Ukraine, according to Western partners, are under the threat of occupation. And among those awaiting occupation, Ukraine is not in the first place. Zrada.

[Alex777]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Subtly troll Ukrainians. Taiwan is even higher.

And where will you put an army in which there is no aviation?
Taiwan has it. And much stronger than Ukrainian.
Dassault Aviation Mirage 2000D.....- 56
Lockheed F-16A...............- 120
Lockheed F-16B...............-25
And much more, more...

On August 20, 2019, the sale of the F-16 C/D Block 70, also known as the F-16V, was officially approved by the State Department and formally presented to Congress. The 66 newly built F-16s will come with 75 General Electric F110 engines and 75 AN/APG-83 Scalable Agile Beam AESA radars. The final signing of the Letter of Offer and Acceptance (LOA) for the purchase of 66 F-16Vs was confirmed on December 21, 2019.

[Momento]

and the Poles with the F-16 and the patriot air defense system, leopards are clearly higher than Ukraine. and in the future, the Abrams and F-35s will be on par with the French and British.

[Alex777]

I do not understand how countries with nuclear weapons can be lower than those without it.
Stone, of course, in the garden of Japan.
And few people understand the Poles, both in terms of experience and fighting spirit.

[VyacheSeymour]

I don't understand how countries with nuclear weapons can be lower than those without it

This rating does not take into account nuclear
component ...

[Alex777]

Britain and France are constantly at war.
Both countries still have a nuclear fleet.
The experience is very decent. What about Japan?
You can't force Japanese youth into the army.
They had to raise the admission age.

[syndicalist]

I believe that the nuclear component was still taken into account. At least, undoubtedly dominated the opinion of experts. Otherwise, it is impossible to explain the third place of the Chinese army, which only has more attack drones than all other countries combined, not to mention the size of the armed forces.

[VyacheSeymour]

I believe that the nuclear component was still taken into account

If it was taken into account, explain to me the rating of the two Koreas ...
https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.php
No, it was not taken into account, but only the possibility of conducting hostilities by conventional means ...

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Voice from under the bushes:
Not true! You're lying fso! The most powerful army in Europe - Ukraine! ...hic!

[VyacheSeymour]

Not true! You're lying fso! The most powerful army in Europe - Ukraine! ...hic!

Well, if it’s no joke, then even in its current state, if the device is controlled by aviation, automated control systems, intelligence equipment ... I don’t know, I don’t know which of the armies of old Europe
will be able to resist it in combined arms combat. The Europeans, unlike today's Europeans, are unlikely to have a pain threshold and a dozen other thousand 200s will not be a hindrance. What-what, ah die for
something that people from the Union can still not hesitate to ...

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: VyacheSeymour

Well, what if no jokes

Happy! Do you believe in ukromechty!
Although, I agree, some of the Bandera fanatics agree to die before the battle for the sake of a crazy idea.

[VyacheSeymour]

Happy! Do you believe in ukromechty!

Well, their dreams are on their conscience ... I'm just a realist and I can compare, based on the available data, the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the Armed Forces of the same England, France, Germany, Italy without a Navy ... and I see that only in the Air Force, intelligence, electronic systems management, finance and software have the upper hand. The number is the same, and in many positions the technical condition is not ice.

[VyacheSeymour]

Although, I agree, some of the Bandera fanatics agree to die before the battle for the sake of a crazy idea.

Well, then you don’t have to worry about the DNR LNR, since things won’t come to a war, you don’t even have to throw hats ...

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: VyacheSeymour

Well, then you don’t have to worry about the DNR LNR, since things won’t come to a war, you don’t even have to throw hats ...

You did not understand (or pretended not to understand) what I wrote. And I wrote that before the fight Bandera agree to die, boasting in front of brothers. It’s a completely different thing in battle ... Maybe you remember how Givi fed some of them with shoulder straps? Or how they jumped en masse? But before they threatened, promised to "put their soul and body" ...

And, of course, no one is going to throw hats on either the Armed Forces of Ukraine or the Right-wing Banderaites! Those of them who will fight, pose a threat.

[VyacheSeymour]

No, that's exactly how I understood ... - that's why I wrote that it means there is no reason to worry since there is no threat from them ...
Well, with the prisoners it’s not a good example ... - no one knows who and how would behave in their place ... - the same poseur Givi ...

[Crash]

Very much taken into account

[VyacheSeymour]

Very much taken into account

Well, hedgehog ... Yes, go to their page https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.php
Yes, read the note (what is in small print).
And if the kernels were taken into account, where is the justice in the ratings of Australia and Israel? Well, obviously, even without the "bonba" (in all respects) Israel should be higher than Australia ...

[Momento]

Yao doesn't change much at all. it's just that no one dares to use it. Well, maybe just a last chance. even if you take sworn rivals (for example, India and Pakistan), they will clobber with conventional weapons to the last.

[1976AG]

Quote: Momento

Yao doesn't change much at all. it's just that no one dares to use it. Well, maybe just a last chance. even if you take sworn rivals (for example, India and Pakistan), they will clobber with conventional weapons to the last.

Nuclear weapons have maintained the independence of the DPRK for many years. Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya have long since sunk into oblivion.

[Momento]

First of all, China preserves the independence of the DPRK.

[Briz]

And China, too, but general geography should not be ruled out. From the north, Russia, from the south only South Korea, the southerners themselves will not twitch, and they will not let the Americans.

[Momento]

if the DPRK collapses, it is not from an external threat.
in general, they have little chance of building communism, but they were perhaps the closest.

[sustav75]

Is not a fact. Don't forget low-yield tactical nuclear weapons.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Alex777

I do not understand how countries with nuclear weapons can be lower than those without it.

Overestimate the importance of nuclear weapons. It has little effect against troops in general.
Nuclear weapons are terrible before they are used, after which they are only one of the means of destruction with their own specific factors. No more.
A nuclear strike is the beginning of a war, not the end.

[Alex777]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

A nuclear strike is the beginning of a war, not the end.

Strongly. States and Japan look at you with surprise.
PS. Minus is not mine.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Weak effect against troop, I emphasize. Nuclear weapons are well applicable against the very elements of the Strategic Missile Forces, infrastructure, and civilian objects. The army, air force, navy are mobile, dispersed, the personnel are trained.
Personally, I was taught to work, including in a nuclear war. For me, nuclear weapons are weapons that have certain damaging factors. The effect of which can be evaluated and reduced on equipment and people.
Yes, it has a terrible psychological effect, but until the moment of application. The example of Japan illustrates this perfectly. Used nuclear weapons against cities. The capitulation was after the actual destruction of the fleet and air force, the defeat of the Kwantung Army. If this were not the case, the use of nuclear weapons would not have affected anything.

[VyacheSeymour]

The capitulation was after the actual destruction of the fleet and air force, the defeat of the Kwantung Army. If this were not the case, the use of nuclear weapons would not have affected anything.

Exactly this way and nothing else ... - I know from school that the use of nuclear weapons by the States
in Japanese cities was an act of unjustified barbarism against the backdrop of the already complete defeat of the imperial forces ...

[Reader 47]

How is the army dispersed? One tank / ship / etc. per 100 km? Or how do you imagine a sufficiently dispersed army for yao to have a "weak effect"? Do you even understand what yao is? Looks like no.

[Reader 47]

Only an alternatively gifted person can write about the "weak effect" of yao. I don’t even have a version of what led you to such a conclusion.

[Briz]

Nuclear weapons are a war of total annihilation, only we and the Americans (and very few Chinese) can do this, it is primarily aimed at destroying the economy and the people (of course I'm talking about strategic), tactical is just a strong weapon from which only local losses that will force retaliatory and more effective measures, and then incrementally until someone is forced to stop, well, or to the end.

[man]

Apparently they think that the Japanese are compensating with hand-to-hand combat

[Terenin]

Quote: OrangeBigg

under the threat of occupation. And among those waiting for the occupation, Ukraine is not in the first place.

Why "waiting"? Ukraine is already de facto occupied. Is not it?

[Clear]

Quote: OrangeBigg

. The most powerful army among the countries of the post-Soviet space, not counting the Russian Federation, is the army of Ukraine. The compilers of the rating placed it in the 22nd position - after the armies of Saudi Arabia and Taiwan.

The Ukrainians were subtly trolled. Taiwan is even higher. Although both Taiwan and Ukraine, according to Western partners, are under the threat of occupation. And among those awaiting occupation, Ukraine is not in the first place. Zrada.

But what about the conscription of women in Ukraine, did the rating rise or fall?

[Sector]

Write a detailed why answer with data. And then you can write about everyone
For example, it seems to me personally that the place of the Azerbaijani army is not deserved. Although I think numerical values ​​counted significantly.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Secutor

Write a detailed why answer with data. And then you can write about everyone
For example, it seems to me personally that the place of the Azerbaijani army is not deserved. Although I think numerical values ​​counted significantly.

Approximately such indicators were taken into account.

I wonder where they get such data on the military budget of the RF Armed Forces?

.Human resourcesHuman resources: 69
Tanks Tanks: 12 420
Aviation Aviation: 4
Aircraft carriers Aircraft carriers: 1
Submarines Submarines: 70
Nuclear weapons Nuclear warheads: 7
Budget Military budget: $154
The high rating of Russia is largely due to the huge number of tanks and armored vehicles in general (1st place, 12420 units). The Russian Federation also has a large Navy (2nd place, 605 units) and an excellent Air Force (2nd place, 4173 units), in addition, the country is one of the world's largest oil producers. The Russian Armed Forces have the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and a well-developed nuclear weapon delivery system.

With all the pluses, Russia also has weaknesses. The mediocre economy, the low rate of rearmament of the army, the production and development of modern weapons suffer from a lack of personnel and an imperfect material base. The strength of the armed forces is insufficient, and recruitment is difficult due to a shortage of people.
Source: https://pooha.net/society/weaponry/593-army-2022

[Sector]

It is interesting that China has such a small budget with their volumes. And they seem to use it more effectively than us.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Secutor

It is interesting that China has such a small budget with their volumes. And they seem to use it more effectively than us.

Interestingly, China is the leader in the number of submarines in the world.

[Kesha1980]

It is interesting that China has such a small budget with their volumes

For 10 years now, at least China's military budget has been eroded in various ways and is relatively unknown. But the products are spanked faster and cheaper (our corvette = their destroyer, only faster).

[Sector]

Then it explains a lot. And it was embarrassing that the budget was a little less than 2 times ours, and everything is produced at the speed of sausage.

[Alex777]

I recently came across this comment.
one highly informed colleague:

If per year, for construction, allocated
1/8 of the cost of the ship, then it will take 8 years to build.

On the one hand, it's disgusting.
On the other hand, it is clear where the reserves are.

[Momento]

they can also produce like sausage, but the Chinese have a very poor quality of weapons.

[just exp]

do not explain how the budget of China, in your opinion, is 2 times less than ours, even if according to those figures, China has 250 billion from our 154?
Threat in real life, ours is less than 60 billion.

[zlinn]

budgets are taken at PPP(PPP)

[English tarantas]

And that is, 70 lyams of human resources are not embarrassing?

[Nastia makarova]

why should you be embarrassed?

[English tarantas]

This is every second resident. And children, and the elderly, and women, and the disabled, and alcoholics, drug addicts, criminals.
I didn't understand what those resources are. This is the number of people who can be harnessed to the war in general, that is, all of them are fundamentally efficient. But every second one is nonsense, there are no so many qualified people anywhere, there are no so many able-bodied people either, and most importantly, there are so many jobs, where to get so many means of production in Russia, during the war to recruit increased staff of sellers of everything, and those employed in the extraction and trade of hydrocarbons?

[Nastia makarova]

that's exactly what they have such an indicator "which can be harnessed to war in general"

[English tarantas]

Have you read further? I understand, problems with concentration of attention, an absolute misunderstanding of the issue. What would you like?

[Momento]

pff. Brazil doesn't have an army at all.

[Sanichsan]

the rating is sucked out of the finger, or maybe not out of the finger ...
5th place Japan? 6th place South Korea?!? is this the one that nonstop lays bricks from North Korean missile launches? 21 Taiwan? with 741 aircraft?!? did they count together with household quadrocopters? 22 Ukraine with 318 aircraft?!?
what are these guys using?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Secutor

Write a detailed why answer with data. And then you can write about everyone
For example, it seems to me personally that the place of the Azerbaijani army is not deserved. Although I think numerical values ​​counted significantly.

This is just one of the possible estimates.

The ranking of countries by military power displays the Global Firepower (GFP) 2021 index. It combines more than 50 different indicators. In addition to the size of the army, the number of tanks, ships, aircraft and other military equipment, it also takes into account the level of funding for the military sphere, the country's transport infrastructure, access to petroleum products and other factors that may affect the combat capability of the army. At the same time, the factor of nuclear weapons is not taken into account in the index.

https://nonews.co/directory/lists/countries/global-firepower
There is also a rating board.

[VyacheSeymour]

For example, I personally think that the undeserved place of the Azerbaijani army

Well, the rating is so-so ... If the same Azerbaijan is taken as a basis, then questions arise about the location of such armies as: the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Hungary, Slovakia, Serbia,
Croatia, Norway, Austria...- with armies in
6-15 thousand, with a minimum of firepower (OTRK, MLRS, self-propelled, towed artillery, mortars), with a minimum number of light and heavy armored vehicles and with almost no means of combating it,
with antediluvian air defense and aviation at best
equivalent...

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: VyacheSeymour

Well, the rating is so-so ...

This is to put it mildly. Below is The Military Balance 2021 data. Where Global Firepower got its data from is not at all clear, it seems to be reprinted from the 90s.
China confidently bypassed us everywhere except for the number of nuclear weapons and attack helicopters. They occupy a confident 2nd place in the world in terms of military power. So far we are in 3rd place, but India is pushing us, and ahead of us in terms of parameters. Japan is unequivocal 5th place, due to the fleet and high-tech army. Beyond that, it's not so obvious.

[standan]

Is it okay that China's 2th army has only 510 reservists, while Russia has 2 million? And where did about 7 thousand more tanks from Russia go? The grass is picky for the guys.

[The leader of the Redskins]

I am far from considering this rating ideal, but it is unlikely that the army of Belarus is close to the Ukrainians. The Slovene brothers, it seems, did not even participate in peacekeeping missions, and those have eight years of "their" war, not counting all sorts of Congo and other peacekeeping operations.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

but, hardly, the army of Belarus is close to the Ukrainians. The Slavic brothers, it seems, did not even participate in peacekeeping missions, but those had eight years of "their" war

There is a nuance! In which case, the very "lions" who are destined to lead the "sheep" (military specialists and instructors) will skillfully join the Belarusian army. And from the Ukrainian army, these "lions" will drop ahead of the locomotive according to the Afghan scenario.

[Thrifty]

Now Ukrainians are obliged to demand an apology for such a rating, and sanctions against this agency

[Evil543]

Will be added to the peacekeeper's base

[Victor_B]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Nonsense, even by the fact that Belarus was placed far after Ukraine. Belarus has one of the most efficient armies in Europe.

Professional phallometrists do not pay attention to such trifles!
They have a ruler in their inches (in our opinion) marked.
The main thing is that the P-stan should be in the first place.

[TermNachTer]

Considering who compiled this study, I would not be surprised that Banderland was put in second place, right after the mattress owners)))

[Kesha1980]

Nonsense, even by the fact that Belarus was placed far after Ukraine. Belarus has one of the most efficient armies in Europe.

I even think Belarus will have a better military-industrial complex.

[Sector]

It is worth doing a deeper analysis here. It’s just that the media are littered about the military-industrial complex of Ukraine, but for example, we don’t see at all how the military-industrial complex of Belarus or Kazakhstan is doing.
For example, the opening of last year's army of Azerbaijan. In general, you can’t hear, you can’t see BAM here either.

[Orange bigg]

. For example, the opening of last year's army of Azerbaijan. In general, you can’t hear, you can’t see BAM here either.

Azerbaijan bought weapons for many years from Russia, Israel, Turkey. And then BAM.
In principle, there is no military-industrial complex in Kazakhstan. Only a screwdriver assembly maximum.

[Sector]

Well, it’s not clear with Belarus either. We believe that the military-industrial complex there is normal, but in fact the factories there have not been updated since the days of the USSR. We managed to more or less update the production base during the oil years.

[Kesha1980]

Well, I remember from the last military-industrial complex of Belarus:
modernization of MiGs;
modernization of armored personnel carriers;
For Serbia, it seems.
MANPADS.
Ukraine has only a shame with an armored personnel carrier for Iraq (as a result, they were sold to Africa).
Shame with AN for Latin America. Hammer, etc. Remembering and evaluating the "deep modernization" of the "PK" "Kulemets" is quite a "muveton". In fact, the T 64 is the only thing left. RCC is a sluggish R&D.

[The leader of the Redskins]

It's a shame to know the OPK of a possible adversary!
You considered the ability to modernize equipment a "plus" for the Belarusians.
Ukrov also have this at a higher level (they perform modernization for foreign customers).
The production of aircraft and ship engines, two (!) Types of new armored personnel carriers have been created and are being delivered to their own army and abroad, anti-ship missiles, RS for MLRS, and many other small things have been created from scratch. And you repeat the mantras of the propagandists - the funeral directors of ten years ago. For one failure of the military-industrial complex ukrov, there are three successes. Don't underestimate them.

[Kesha1980]

two (!) types of new armored personnel carriers are delivered to their army and abroad

Why did Iraq refuse these armored personnel carriers?)

RCC created from scratch

Yes Yes! The whole of Azov and the Black Sea in the strokes of "Neptunes"). What military units are armed with them? Only videos for the townsfolk and budget checks.

. For one failure of the military-industrial complex ukrov there are three successes

Stole, sawed, moved away to Europe) - all three successes.
Air Force in openwork)
Armored cars are also in openwork (the Cossacks will never be brought to mind) - or are they ordered and produced?)
Aircraft engines? There is such. For now. What year is the latest development (serial)? And ask China what it thinks about ownership)
Yes, I consider it a plus for Belarusians to be able to adequately modernize equipment. This is not a PC to upgrade to Kulemety. This is somewhat different. How are the stems? How about ammo? Promised for a long time.
Tell us about the Nikolaev shipyards too.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Bravo!
Your analysis of the opponent is at the level of this rating from some couch agency that we read a couple of hours ago!
I tell you that the Ukrainians developed "from scratch" without ever doing this before, and you tell me "watch", trunks, Iraq ...
And how many armored personnel carriers 3 went for export did not count? And in how many countries? But what about the fact that the Poles have finished drinking the "watch" and are now delivering it back to the Ukrainians and have not heard of Africa? "Ray", "Quasar", "temp3000" do these names tell you anything? Google it.
Take off your blinders.

[Kesha1980]

And the fact that the Poles are "watch" finished drinking and now they are delivering back to ukram and to Africa

I guessed what they finished drinking, because remember the acceptance of these former Watches. Namely the former, because now they are Polish and only partially Ukrainian:

So, for example, according to the act "Demonstration display of new and modernized models of automotive and armored vehicles", which was initiated by the National Security and Defense Council and the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in December 2019, Oncilla was unable to overcome a slope with a slope of 30º - and this is a standard requirement for the cross-country ability of military vehicles in the armies all over the world for almost a hundred years! In addition, the commission noted a number of additional shortcomings: the inconvenience of moving inside the troop compartment, the complicated replacement of the crew and troops, the need for additional equipment with additional loopholes and sides ...

https://diana--mihailova-livejournal-com.turbopages.org/diana-mihailova.livejournal.com/s/4571298.html
I am silent about the lack of NVD. Although it is present on paper, but "temporary technological problems").
Delivered - Ukraine!/Africa. Cool combination.
They refused to take the BTR-3 in Iraq (cracks in the armor of the armored personnel carrier is a sentence that is not even discussed) - they pushed it into Nigeria, Thailand and what is better into the Emirates.
Regarding supplies for the Armed Forces of Ukraine:

In July 2020, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine filed a lawsuit against the State Enterprise "Kyiv Armored Plant" in the amount of UAH 148. penalties for violation of the terms of the state contract for the supply (purchase) of products under the state defense order No. 111/815,7/403/1 dated December 17, 96

Even somehow not so hot).
Further "google"? Or do you boast?

[The leader of the Redskins]

Your combat sofa is six years out of date.
And the level of knowledge is revealed by the lack of concepts that BTR3 and BTR4 are completely different machines! I wrote to you in the first comment that TWO (!) Types of armored personnel carriers were adopted. But you do not see the differences in them and have little control over the issue. In general, change your analog combat sofa to digital and learn the materiel.
However, to repeat the memorized manuals, updating the information field is not necessary.
You can not answer - do not make laugh understanding people.

[Kesha1980]

BTR4 "Bucephalus". discussion on this site. You positively pointed out the moment, you were corrected, you did not answer.

The leader of the Redskins
30 March 2020 18: 10
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I have always liked Bucephalus visually. I agree with the author - this is the next step in the development of the armored personnel carrier based on the Soviet heritage.
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Lopatov
Lopatov
30 March 2020 18: 33
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Quote: Leader of the Redskins
this is the next step in the development of armored personnel carriers

8)))))
But not the fact that a step forward.
Yes, and I do not see the Soviet here. Is that a place for an older car.
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The leader of the Redskins
The leader of the Redskins
30 March 2020 18: 37
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I meant a step forward in comparison with the Soviet concept, when the crew covered the engine.
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Lopatov
Lopatov
30 March 2020 18: 42
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Quote: Leader of the Redskins
I meant a step forward in comparison with the Soviet concept, when the crew covered the engine.

?
And here it is. Motorcycle layout. At the Germans, on the contrary, the crew closes the engine and the landing. And as for me it is the most advanced modern armored personnel carrier.

Well, in general, in the world, the layout is like a BMP, with a carrier on the side of the engine

New arguments have appeared, in addition to the 300 linear meters of welds of this armored personnel carrier. I enclose the "paper" of the commission of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the "seams"

I won't answer any more on this topic.

[The leader of the Redskins]

I won't reply to this topic anymore.
So you don't answer! You about the Form, and you - about Yerema!
You about the "troika", which has firmly taken its place in the niche, you - about the first "bucephals", the contract for the production of cases of which failed private firm.
You that in addition to failures in the past, there are achievements, but you stubbornly - no, everything is bad there, they wrote about this in the newspapers three (five) years ago!
And I don’t refuse my words that it is more profitable in terms of layout than our / Soviet cars. And the world trend confirms them, including our long-born "boomerang".

[Grits]

Judging by the correspondence you cited with other participants in the discussions, we can conclude that we have not seen Comrade Lopatov at VO for almost 2 years. It is a pity that he does not appear more, he is a fairly good connoisseur of artillery.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Belarus has one of the most efficient armies in Europe.

The SV of Belarus is the size of one division (10700 people), plus the MTR is the size of two brigades (6000 people). Here, no matter how Rembs the Belarusians are, God is on the side of the big battalions.
For comparison: the NE of Ukraine - 145 people.
But the Czech Republic and Norway are ahead of Belarus - nonsense.

[poquello]

Quote: Hyperion

God is on the side of the big battalions.

"Where there are fewer troops, there are more brave ones."

[Hypertension]

Quote: poquello

"Where there are fewer troops, there are more brave ones."

When Suvorov commands...

[poquello]

Quote: Hyperion

Quote: poquello

"Where there are fewer troops, there are more brave ones."

When Suvorov commands...

well, not only, although fools came across in history

[Hypertension]

Quote: poquello

well, not only, although fools came across in history

Yes. But it is still more convenient to beat the "father" in a herd. And I'm not talking about Lukashenka. Just a saying. About the numerical advantage.

[poquello]

Quote: Hyperion

Quote: poquello

well, not only, although fools came across in history

Yes. But it is still more convenient to beat the "father" in a herd.

the issue of numbers is of course interesting, but Little Israel survives quite tolerably among numerous enemies due to the high bar and the preparation of the mob reserve, again, the all-European Fuhrer pierced with numbers when, according to his calculations, he had already killed the entire Red Army near Moscow)

[Hypertension]

Quote: poquello

but Little Israel survives quite tolerably among numerous enemies due to the high bar and the preparation of the mob reserve

And due to the disorganization and low training of the Arab military.

Quote: poquello

again, the all-European Fuhrer pierced with numbers when, according to his calculations, near Moscow, he had already killed the entire Red Army

And what does the puncture in the calculations about the number of the enemy have to do with it?

[poquello]

Quote: Hyperion

And what does the puncture in the calculations about the number of the enemy have to do with it?

the group turned out to be small

[Hypertension]

Quote: poquello

the group turned out to be small

Too small. There was no classic 3:1 ratio. However, ours got worse.

[poquello]

Quote: Hyperion

There was no classic ratio at the onset of 3:1.

tactically it was

[Hypertension]

Quote: poquello

tactically it was

Tactically, in some sectors of the front (for example, during a counteroffensive), the Red Army could also have it. In general, if we simplify to "the Germans attacked - ours defended themselves", then it is very debatable.

[poquello]

Quote: Hyperion

Tactically, in some sectors of the front (for example, during a counteroffensive), the Red Army could also have it.

Quote: poquello

pierced with strength when under Moscow

[Hypertension]

Quote: poquello

when under Moscow

"Near Moscow" is a loose concept. You name some concrete operation or date. In any case, there was no 3:1.
And I still don’t understand what side Hitler’s puncture is here. The discussion is that with armies approximately equal in training and equipment, the one that is more numerous is more likely to win.

[poquello]

Quote: Hyperion

"Near Moscow" is a loose concept. Can you name a specific operation?

where is it stretchable? ) Barbarosa

Quote: Hyperion

In any case, there was no 3:1.

direction Center (Brest-Suwalki) 6/1

Quote: Hyperion

And I still don’t understand what side Hitler’s puncture is here.

here near Moscow he became a star

Quote: Hyperion

The discussion is that with approximately equal training and equipment armies, the one that is more numerous has a chance to win.

this is a demagogic discussion, since there are many examples of "not by number, but by skill", but you can always blur it out like

Quote: Hyperion

armies equal in training and equipment

[Hypertension]

Quote: poquello

barbarosa

In Barbarossa, in terms of guns, tanks and aircraft, in general, the quantitative superiority was on the side of the USSR.

Quote: poquello

direction Center (Brest-Suwalki) 6/1

What is this "direction Center"? What is the name of the operation?

Quote: poquello

here near Moscow he became a star

Starred. But there was no 3:1 ratio either. In strategic terms.

Quote: poquello

since there are many examples of "not by number, but by skill"

According to your logic, it turns out that the smaller the army, the better. Ideally, one warrior in the field. And there are certainly more cases of victories. Just a victory over superior forces is better remembered.

[poquello]

Quote: Hyperion

In Barbarossa, in terms of guns, tanks and aircraft, in general, the quantitative superiority was on the side of the USSR.

exactly, exactly, and Hitler planned to undermine two tanks with one grenade

[Hypertension]

So what about the "direction Center"? What is it in general? Operation, battle, battle? Where can you read about it?

[poquello]

Quote: Hyperion

So what about the "direction Center"? What is it in general? Operation, battle, battle? Where can you read about it?

such a group was Moscow, under the leadership of Shumov, A. Troitsky will tell you, .. I don’t see the point in answering specially stupid questions

[Hypertension]

Quote: poquello

I don't see the point in answering stupid questions.

Everything is clear with you ... You cannot confirm your words about a certain episode of the Second World War called "direction Center", where the ratio was 6:1. Well, it happens ... You are not the first, you are not the last ...

[poquello]

Quote: Hyperion

"direction Center", where the ratio was 6:1

or with you

[Hypertension]

And how to understand from the picture that 6: 1? If we take the Battle of Smolensk (the arrow of the armies of the Center group points to Smolensk), then the ratio there was 1:1 plus or minus.

[poquello]

Quote: Hyperion

And how to understand from the picture that 6: 1? If we take the Battle of Smolensk (the arrow of the armies of the Center group points to Smolensk), then the ratio there was 1:1 plus or minus.

for the gifted

Quote: poquello

direction Center (Brest-Suwalki) 6 / 1

[Hypertension]

Quote: poquello

for the gifted

For not really: can you provide a link to confirm such a ratio, or should I take your word for it? An article listing the forces of the parties and their ratio?

[poquello]

Quote: Hyperion

Quote: poquello

for the gifted

For not really: can you provide a link to confirm such a ratio, or should I take your word for it? An article listing the forces of the parties and their ratio?

Well, I didn’t bring cartridges there, and the author of the article with a high degree of probability, too, is that what you need a link to?

https://cdnimg.rg.ru/pril/article/126/37/51/tab6.jpg

[Hypertension]

So good. But the question arises: Where are Brest and Suwalki, and where are they "near Moscow"? From Brest to Moscow - 950 km. This is first. Secondly: These battles were lost, due to the numerical superiority of the attackers. After all, this only confirms the thesis that, I will quote:

It is believed that under equal technical conditions, in tactical positional combat, for an effective offensive, the forces of the attacker must outnumber the forces of the defender by at least three times. Accordingly, the defender can for a long time hold back the offensive of the enemy, who outnumbers up to three times. This is attributed to the difference in the combat capabilities of units, depending on the defense or offensive. So, for example, the field manual of the US Army recommends that in order to achieve the goal of an offensive in the direction of the main attack, create at least 6-fold superiority over the defender in forces and means. In order to repel an offensive under such conditions, it is necessary to achieve such a situation that in the dynamics of defense the indicated ratio is reduced and does not exceed 2-3: 1 in favor of the attacker and, as a result, he cannot continue the offensive.

Do you know why units in the army, as a rule, are multiples of three? 3 squads = platoon, 3 platoons = company, 3 companies = battalion? Here are the same considerations.

Quote: poquello

what is your link for?

That is, a link to an article is not a guarantee of reliable information, but a picture with numbers is a guarantee?

[poquello]

Quote: Hyperion

That is, a link to an article is not a guarantee of reliable information, but a picture with numbers is a guarantee?

that is, they asked - gave, but the question remained

Quote: Hyperion

Where are Brest and Suwalki, and where "near Moscow"?

the plan started from Brest and ended near Moscow, if you "meant" the ratio near Moscow - I was not interested, taking into account the Siberians - probably with our advantage

Quote: Hyperion

Secondly: These battles were lost,

Quote: Hyperion

In any case, there was no 3:1.

means "any cases" are different)
What about a specific phrase?

Quote: poquello

the all-European Fuhrer pierced with numbers when, according to his calculations, he had already killed the entire Red Army near Moscow)

then the number of the Red Army turned out to be somewhat larger), which only confirms the thesis about the gopher

[Hypertension]

Quote: poquello

that is, they asked - gave, but the question remained

The question of confirming the ratio on the Brest-Suwalki line has disappeared. The sign will come down.
And the question about the distance from Brest to Moscow is a new question. But he was also dealt with. As it turned out, the concept of "near Moscow" is different for everyone. One has a maximum of the Moscow region, while the other has a radius of 950 km.

Quote: poquello

the ratio near Moscow - was not interested, taking into account the Siberians - probably with our advantage

It is not clear then why it was necessary to write near Moscow.

Quote: poquello

means "any cases" are different)

With sin in half, we figured it out.

Quote: poquello

then the number of the Red Army turned out to be slightly larger)

Hitler's strategic miscalculations, to be honest, were completely off topic in this discussion. As are gophers.

[marat2016]

It will be generally unpleasant for any army to fight in Norway in the winter ..... In this sense, for example, Vietnam is only in 28th place, despite the fact that they overpowered France, then the USA, then China. It would be interesting to look at any country that, without nuclear weapons, could overpower the Vietnamese .....

[Hypertension]

Quote: marat2016

It will be generally unpleasant for any army to fight in Norway in winter ...

Does this rating take this into account? It compares only data on the length of roads, the number of ports and airports. Climate and relief are not taken into account.

Quote: marat2016

It would be interesting to look at any country that, without nuclear weapons, could overpower the Vietnamese ...

You don't have to go far. China could. The question is at what cost...

[Grits]

I won’t argue about Vietnam - their victories are worthy. But this is not an indicator either. Here is an example:
Russo-Japanese War of 1905
Soviet-Polish war of 1920....
What can be said about comparisons?

[1976AG]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Nonsense, even by the fact that Belarus was placed far after Ukraine. Belarus has one of the most efficient armies in Europe.

From what fright? one of the most combat-ready by what criterion? By number? - No, according to the level of modernity? - again no.

[Roma 1977]

Belarus has a very small army armed with Soviet weapons. What combat capability?

[Ramon Mercader]

I really doubt very much that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are stronger than the Polish army

[Andrey Moskvin]

Ukram only dream of Abrams.

[Ramon Mercader]

With its fuel efficiency, and the supply of fuel and lubricants to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, well, in figs, dream about this))

[Andrey Moskvin]

If the states gave a couple of Abrams, Ukrainians would not give a damn about efficiency. What an honor!

[Evil543]

It is interesting that Russia is absent in the European ranking.

[Tusv]

Quote: Evil543

It is interesting that Russia is absent in the European ranking.

Nothing surprising. The three world leaders are known. USA-Russia-China And then the ranking of the best of the worst and everything

[Andrey Moskvin]

The rating is European. And we .. Yes, we are Asians, with slanting and greedy eyes ...

[poquello]

Quote: Ramon Merkader

I really doubt very much that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are stronger than the Polish army

))))))))) I also strongly doubt which of them is stronger, but there is a suspicion that from the Belarusians if they rake both those and these

[210ox]

Oh those ratings.

[ERsytype]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Nonsense, even by the fact that Belarus was placed far after Ukraine. Belarus has one of the most efficient armies in Europe.

How did you define it?

[bk316]

Yes, he did not define.
Chel does not understand that combat capability is not equal to strength.
Well, in general, combat capability is a subjective assessment until the war begins.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: bk316

Chel does not understand that combat capability is not equal to strength.

This is what you don't understand. Vietnam showed what a small but combat-ready army was capable of against a larger and better equipped enemy.
I also recommend watching the fight between Koklyaev and Emelianenko. A clear example of strength and combat capability.

[Undecim]

Vietnam showed what a small but combat-ready army was capable of against a larger and better equipped enemy.

And who had a small army?

[Ingvar 72]

What war do you mean?
P.S. I'm talking about 1979.

[Undecim]

And, you are talking about the "first socialist war."
With regard to the forces of the parties in this war, there are more questions than answers.
Vietnam - 100 regular army, 000 militia. There doesn't seem to be much difference here. China - 150 regular army. But the Vietnamese claim that there were 000 Chinese.
I spoke with the Vietnamese who participated in this conflict. They refrained from commenting on the balance of power, arguing that it was impossible to objectively assess from their level.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Undecim

But the Vietnamese claim that there were 600 Chinese.

Yes, I also googled the topic. And for some reason I tend to believe the Vietnamese version more. Particularly because Vietnam won.

[Undecim]

In Vietnam itself, the attitude towards this war has changed several times over the past time. At one time, she was practically not remembered. Now, after the Chinese began to move oil rigs near the Paracel Islands, a "reset" has begun. They suddenly remembered the veterans, began to demand that history textbooks be reviewed and memorials restored. So with the Vietnamese data "not everything is so simple."

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Undecim

So with the Vietnamese data "not everything is so simple."

I agree that in a war, absolutely everyone underestimates their losses, and exaggerates those of others.
But the Vietnamese army was with experience in combat, while the Chinese were mostly unfired, and on foreign territory.
So I still think that the Vietnamese version is closer to the truth.

[bk316]

Vietnam showed what a small but combat-ready army is capable of

this is what I said

Chel does not understand that combat capability is not equal to strength.

I can add AT ALL does not understand.
I didn’t write anywhere who will win the war strong or combat-ready, I just said that these are ABSOLUTELY different indicators, and who wins depends on them and on the MASS of other indicators, including those not related to the army at all. For example, in Vietnam, geographic (jungle), ideological (communist) and, most importantly, the factor of having an ally (USSR) played a role, and, characteristically, none of these factors has anything to do with the army. True, it’s good to think first before writing, you see, and you don’t have to write?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: bk316

True, it’s good to think first before writing, you see, and you don’t have to write?

That's why they wouldn't write.
For the first word of my commentary on the article about the rating is "nonsense". But you clung to the difference in understanding the number and combat capability.
What did you want to say in the end?

[bk316]

what in This Belarus is quite logically ranked after Ukraine.

For people who have a really bad explanation with logic. Forgive VO visitors for such banality.
1. In the ranking of the tallest animals, the giraffe is higher than the elephant
2. In the ranking of the heaviest animals, the elephant is higher than the giraffe.
There is no contradiction here, on the basis of 1 and 2 nothing can be said about the quality of both ratings. As well as who will eat whom an elephant or a giraffe.

It's not even mathematics, it's the beginnings of logic.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: bk316

It's not even mathematics, it's the beginnings of logic.

Key words - "In this rating". For on it we see an assessment of weight, not strength. but in real life, a lighter boat with whalers kills many times a heavier and stronger whale. When you wrote your first criticizing comment, the person below wrote an answer in essence, in which the army of Belarus is stronger, point by point. And as for mathematics, a solution without taking into account all the initial ones is already flawed. This is an axiom, both in logic and in mathematics.

[bk316]

For according to it we see an assessment of weight, not strength

Learn to read in Russian already.

Updated rankings combat power and equipment of armies peace. This rating is traditionally compiled by the Global Firepower service, whose conclusions are not shared by all military experts.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: bk316

Learn to read in Russian already.

They also write on the fence, but there is firewood!

[neurostimulator]

Belarus did not fall into the Ilovaisky cauldron. And she didn't run away from there. I didn’t sell my equipment abroad and didn’t suck my “finger” afterwards. I didn’t make debility reforms that ruined everything, even when Lukashenka announced a policy of multi-anusity)), I apologize for the multi-vector approach, ... and preserved her legacy to the present day. The Ukrainian army today has nothing to fight for, because the state itself betrayed everything Ukrainian to the enemy at the first whistle and continues to do so. But Belarus did not and does not do this.
The truth is that today you can’t even put Ukraine and Belarus side by side, because there is nothing to compare - the Kiev bride is spoiled. Belarus today will be able to defend itself against everyone with whom it borders, and Ukraine lost this war a long time ago - that's where the truth is about all the debility ratings that will continue to be issued from behind the hillock for debils there and debils here.

[Third district]

I wonder what place these experts put the DPRK army in.

[Tusv]

Quote: Third District

I wonder what place these experts put the DPRK army in.

O! By the way. Meanwhile, Iran willingly purchased North Korean technologies for its missile program and their submarines are not measured. Many times more than in Japan

[vladcub]

North Korea uses Chinese technology, and the Chinese are excellent copiers

[marat2016]

On the 30th! Clear Zrada!

[neurostimulator]

The question is straight to the point.

[Amateur]

Well, everything! This global will now be included in the lists of the peacekeeper and he will be banned from entering 404.
After all, everyone knows that the United States is in 1st place, and the army is in 1.5th place, and in Europe "finally FIRST".

[TermNachTer]

Maybe they will ban it, but it is unlikely for a long time, because Banderland itself has not long left.

[neurostimulator]

Some pervert taught you history, ... a pervert or the Internet.

[Tank jacket]

The American army is especially dangerous...

[neurostimulator]

What an abomination, wow. A plus for you, for relevant material.

[TermNachTer]

Yeah, it's dangerous to turn your back on her)))

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

God forbid we meet live!

[Bolt cutter]

meet you live!

Those who wish will not surrender

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Yes, it’s scary to go hand-to-hand here

[Tusv]

Quote: Tank jacket

The American army is especially dangerous...

No, I'm calm here. LGBT people don't breed. Khrenushki to them, and not "Women still give birth." Refugees will lead Drag nah osten? We have a respected Mufti of All Russia. They will take Holy Communion like little ones

[Tank jacket]

Fighting Tinto Brasses in Hawaii, judging by the wreath of flowers...

[Tusv]

Quote: Tank jacket

Fighting Tinto Brasses in Hawaii, judging by the wreath of flowers...

Not. Guards badge and for 250 DB excellent at the border. in 11 seconds, a hundred meters in boots (no one is on duty in air defense in boots, only in comfortable shoes) The bourgeois was crushed

[Tank jacket]

I ran a 11.8-meter race in good sneakers for 100. Taking off my hat

[Tusv]

Quote: Tank jacket

I ran a 11.8-meter race in good sneakers for 100. Taking off my hat

This is air defense. If you want to live, you will overtake Usain Bolt. And over the hill there are no panties

[neurostimulator]

It is best not to compare yourself with any ratings, especially such bad ones. It is better to have your own rating system and publish it instead of ratings.

[Silver Fox]

the Taliban are not there?

[16112014nk]

Ratings are such ratings. Especially any Global ...
Who is stronger - an elephant or a whale? Why not rating?
From the recent - who is stronger - the US Army or the Taliban? Well, obviously the Taliban are stronger. Nothing to even argue about.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

NONSENSE!!!!
the combat effectiveness of the army is checked in only one way
where were the armies of France and Poland in 40 and 39?

[Tusv]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

where were the armies of France and Poland in 40 and 39?

Not well, France produces strategic submarines with full armament. Leclerc, Rafali without freeloaders. Cosmos with Ariana is France - European freeloader agency. Clear 4th place. Third in quality

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Tusv

Clear 4th place. Third in quality

I asked about the year 1940
once again, it doesn’t matter how many submarines you have if the crews are ready to lower the flag at the sight of pirates on reed rafts

[Tusv]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

once again, it doesn’t matter how many submarines you have if the crews are ready to lower the flag at the sight of pirates on reed rafts

The boats of the USA, the USSR / the Russian Federation, the DPRK in the descent of the flag, by no means, were noticed, except to lower the weight for the dead

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

read everything carefully

[Tusv]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

read everything carefully

But the fact that? I know my opponents almost by sight. And you?
In the sense of the enemies of Holy Russia

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Tusv

But the fact that?

nothing
the discussion is over, I don’t see the point in arguing with a person who, in principle, did not understand the meaning of what was written

[The Siberian barber]

Ratings - from the evil one!))
Thanks to them, in fact, the next (or not the next?) Crisis of '08 happened))
Yes, and accordingly, how can one assess the power of defense capability?))
Only war can dot the "and")))

[Skipper]

The rating is already a very tricky subject .... If it exists .... then it is no longer there. The US Army and the Taliban army, who is in what place in the ranking? Everyone understands. And in real life, everyone also understands what happened. So minke whales can write anything in their fantasies from this reality will not change.

[Phoenix]

This site has strange information. The defense budget of the Russian Federation for 2022 is $44,3 billion, while the website writes $154 billion. There are other "strange things" that apply not only to the Russian Federation. Do not take this rating on faith, the site is deliberately misleading.

[vladcub]

"consider it stronger than the army of Poland" and how do the Poles put up with this? They have enough ambition for two.
Last year I saw some kind of rating and there the Ukrainians stood above the Swiss army, and the Swiss Armed Forces are a "mighty" army.
But seriously, all these ratings are from the "evil one"
By what criteria to compare: in terms of numbers? By the presence of nuclear weapons.? By budget? In terms of equipment with modern types of weapons? There is a sea of ​​nuances here.
For example: Pakistan, India have nuclear weapons, but the place of the Pakistanis is not indicated here. The Britons have nuclear weapons, but they are behind the Yaps. According to the criteria, the Ukrainian army was put above the Poles and the Belarusian? It seems that the Israeli army will be higher than the Yaps.

[marat2016]

As for Switzerland, I am sure that not a single European army, without nuclear weapons, will overpower the Swiss one. That quantitatively and qualitatively very + natural conditions are very specific.

[Warhead-xnumx]

Interestingly, this is purely hypothetical: is 2 + 3 + 52 more than 1 + 4 + 7 + 8 + 22 or less?

[usr01]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Nonsense...

... because it is difficult (impossible?) to compare "square" with "green" ... A bunch of parameters, that means for each - "weight coefficient" and who appoints it? And How? and for what tasks is the army "sharpened"?
It is clear with Ukraine - 1. "Schaub Bulo!" (why cut money) 2. punitive detachments with Soviet mattech support ...

[Al_lexx]

British scientists have found that the brains of scientists from other countries are no longer developing.)))

[Borisych]

Ukraine-Faso. By March we will see the army of Ukraine. In a coffin, in white slippers.

[faterdom]

Compiled rating forbade Russia to invade Ukraine under the Russian flag.
Otherwise, the rating will be lowered.

[standan]

We will invade under the Soviet :)

[Klingon]

They had fun about Saudi Arabia. A super-equipped army with Abrashka-Lambs, F-16s, Apaches, etc. that cannot cope with a handful of dudes in slippers, with Chinese copies of Kalash, ancient DShKs, Berdanks and drones from Aliexpress

[tolmachiev51]

Very similar to the data of our Rosstat !!! 318 aircraft at the horses!? Apparently with civilians.

[hagen]

This rating is traditionally compiled by the Global Firepower service, whose conclusions are not shared by all military experts.

You may not read further. There is no information about the service, no methodology for calculating rating indicators is presented. "... All sources referenced by the Global Firepower portal are the same for describing the armies of all countries and consist of vague links to the CIA and CIA World Factbook websites, as well as Wikipedia. The Site Disclaimer section says: "Global Firepower does not assumes responsibility for the accuracy, correctness, completeness, reliability and timeliness of the information.The content of the site is presented without any express or implied warranties of accuracy.
In addition, from the very beginning in the same section it is said that the site has purely "historical and entertainment functions"...". What is there to discuss???

[Hitriy Zhuk]

All these ratings are nonsense.
They are not even indicative of movies, and here the money is much like big, which means they will write as it should be to someone who has money.

Some reports for the General Staff - yes, but there are secrecy and all that.

[Vitaly gusin]

This rating is traditionally compiled by the Global Firepower service, whose conclusions are not shared by all military experts.
As you can see, opinions differ here on the site, and this is normal.
But in order to avoid incorrect statements, it was necessary to write the conditions for determining the rating in the article.

The results include the values ​​of more than 50 individual factors, does not take into account nuclear weapons, but the calculation includes indicators of the labor force, equipment of enterprises, natural and water resources, geography of the state, finance, etc.,
all of which matter for the final GFP rankings.

[Alexander Salenko]

I even felt sorry for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, worse than the Saudis? Which partisans running around in flip flops wet? And it’s funny about Belarus that after Singapore, I didn’t hear anything about their powerful armed forces, as well as about the mighty army of the state of Bangladesh.

[grassyknollgunner]

Russia in 2th place

About nuclear weapons...

[Reserve buildbat]

Another nonsense. No zhurnashlyushki not be able to assess the power of the army. Not to mention the fact that in reality the American army is somewhere in the tail of the second hundred. Since she has equipment, but there are no soldiers. Some cowardly sluts