The press called the actions of Ukrainian saboteurs the cause of the bus explosion in Voronezh

More than 5 months after the explosion that thundered in the Voronezh "minibus" 10A, the specific reason for the incident was named. Recall that the explosion occurred on August 12 last year at a time when the PAZ was near a bus stop in the central part of the city. As a result, two people died, more than 20 were injured and injured.

At first it was stated that there was a gas explosion, but this version was immediately dismissed for the simple reason that the bus was diesel. After that, statements began to be made about the alleged explosion of a gas cylinder for a household stove, which was allegedly being transported by one of the passengers. Also, as possible reasons, they called the "war of competitors" - carrier companies.

Now a new version has been released. According to the publication "Moscow Komsomol", referring to his own sources, the cause of the explosion is called "a sabotage arranged by immigrants from the territory of Ukraine." At the same time, the phrase is used that the explosion, “most likely”, was committed in order to destabilize the situation in the Voronezh region.

It is reported that the circle of suspects has already been established, only there is one caveat - they have all already left Russian territory, having left on fake documents.

Officials have not yet commented on this information.

Comments

[tralflot1832]

Moskovsky Komsomolets???Source of information!!!

[Vasyan1971]

Hailey Likely works both ways.

[Titus_2]

Well, here’s how they haven’t dragged in any banned organization yet, because first of all it is necessary to voice the expertise of what exploded and how it worked, otherwise the Ukrainians were dragged in right away.

[Thrifty]

Tralfleet, knowing those who fled to us from the war, I will believe in such a version! I listened to these runners with us in Rostov-on-Don, others wanted to at least break their jaw for outright lies and threats against Russia ... They fled to sitting out and not living peacefully is a huge difference. There are enough mishandled people who are there for this, to blow up and kill. And, then it will be much worse, we have a huge headache at our side. We are already accustomed to their false calls about mining schools, hospitals, and other institutions throughout the country ...

[tralflot1832]

A taxi driver brought one such refugee! Familiar! After he paid, he asked, “Why did you run in this direction, and not in the opposite direction?” He started from me, Schumacher was resting.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: tralflot1832

A taxi driver brought one such refugee! Familiar! After he paid, he asked, “Why did you run in this direction, and not in the opposite direction?” He started from me, Schumacher was resting.

Not necessarily a refugee from Ukraine. and Nazis, they work at construction sites, they don’t look ashamed in the eyes ...

[tralflot1832]

It was a refugee, I didn’t pull him by the tongue. They had business in Donetsk before the coup, but for some reason they didn’t run to Kiev after the revolution.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: tralflot1832

It was a refugee, I didn’t pull him by the tongue. They had business in Donetsk before the coup, but for some reason they didn’t run to Kiev after the revolution.

This is fine . Some of the Sevastopol residents remember Svidoukria with tenderness.. They sat on bribes. land, real estate, and so on with a trailer .. Profits disappeared, discontent appeared .. They howl and whine. The fifth column is local ..

[vladcub]

"the fifth column is local" there are always and everywhere.
You whine those that used to be in a "warm" place. This is natural, but there are envious people by nature, they look at the lucky ones and turn green with envy. They are worse than your yesterdays: "yesterdays" are registered, and envious people can be super "patriots" and beyond suspicion

[Xnumx vis]

Yes, these saliva drips poisonous with envy. While they can spit on their backs in transport, put garbage under the door, and let them sell everything and everyone .. The strongest mimicry is present.

[vladcub]

In fact of the matter. There are similar ones in any government

[Ben Gunn]

That's for sure. In the summer I was in Feodosia, oh ... how surprised at the number of people who wanted to return to Ukraine.

[Xnumx vis]

Yah !? Are you lying about something ... and you are lying very much ... Did Ostap suffer? *

[Ben Gunn]

Ostap did not suffer. When the first person told me about the desire to return to Ukraine, I simply wrote off the fact that I was caught inadequate. The second one too. But then another and another ... Perhaps, of course, it just happened. But my impression was not good.

[Xnumx vis]

Are you telling me this to a Sevastopol-Krymchanin? Yes, these "loving" Ukraine from the Crimea and Sevastopol cannot be kicked out with a shovel ... If that's the case, what prevents them from selling an apartment in the Crimea-Sevastopol and buying four for this money from krizhopele, chi ternopel? Nothing interferes. An no. they sit, clutch and run first to receive all sorts of benefits and cash payments .. so don’t fill me with this bodyagu.

[vindigo]

Was last fall in Feodosia. Complained about the lack of work. They say that the port in Feodosia has become unnecessary, everything goes through Novorossiysk. Many jobs have been lost.

[Sector]

I know these *Insert nationality* A friend of a friend met a friend who told a friend. In short, they are all bastards.

Generalizing people according to one individual is such an occupation. A family of Azerbaijanis lives on the floor below. Very cultured people, the flowers on their floor are clean. Our Russian people live on my floor opposite, they all coughed up and littered with cigarette butts around the garbage chute. Shall we generalize?

[sgrabik]

Black sheep are found in all nationalities and nationalities, but in Ukraine the degree of general clouding of the mind of the population simply rolls over, UkroSMI littered people's brains with their anti-Russian propaganda according to Western manuals.

[OlegRetired]

In addition to calls about mining false ones, there are also telephone scammers, they have solid call centers built there, people in office clothes and with a headset in front of a computer work hard. They call Russia. Looks very solid, if you do not know what they are doing. And it is considered a worthy job to breed Muscovites. Here I am tormented by the question, we will turn the power there to the one loyal to us, and then what? They will immediately ask for billions of non-repayable loans, if we take them by military means, they will have to feed them all, and they will hate us, but is it a joke to support 35 million people? We ourselves have where to invest money in Russia ... Zutzwang ...

[VSO-396]

The trouble is that these telephone scammers are scamming everyone: in Ukraine, and in Moldova, and in Belarus, and in the Russian Federation. By the way, they always speak pure Russian, without any accent.

[Mikhail Tynda]

The trouble is that these telephone scammers are scamming everyone: in Ukraine, and in Moldova, and in Belarus, and in the Russian Federation. By the way, they always speak pure Russian, without any accent.

Interestingly, in Ukraine, the security service of the bank calls in pure Russian? But what about the language law?

[VSO-396]

I will not say. The security service of the bank has never called me, scammers, yes.

[Cottodraton]

Not always, I came across employees of "sb sberbank" with an accent

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

a Ukrainian who tries to be clever in Russian and with a Zhmerinsky accent looks ridiculous.)

[Cottodraton]

Yes, I, by the way, said something like this to the "manager of the security service of the Savings Bank". Worthless, in such a position to burr, and even with a farmer's accent

[OlegRetired]

Quote: VSO-396

The trouble is that these telephone scammers are scamming everyone: in Ukraine, and in Moldova, and in Belarus, and in the Russian Federation. By the way, they always speak pure Russian, without any accent.

It seems to me that in Ukraine they have very few chances to divorce someone.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Oleg, retired

they have built solid call centers there

Why vna? I know that we have telephone scammers calling from the zones, and the authorities of these ITCs are in the know.
But it's much easier to blame everything on the damn Ukrainians, right?

[Bolt cutter]

it’s much easier to blame everything on the damned Ukrainians

On the forums blocked in the Russian Federation, I found many offers to work in such "call centers". It's all there on a grand scale and almost legally done. They do not work in Ukraine. According to rumors, the generals of the SBU are in the share.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

It's all there on a grand scale and almost legally done.

You know, the accent is hard enough to hide, and all the "Savings Bank security officers" who called me always spoke without an accent.
Only one slightly burred.

[vindigo]

They like to use the word "fix". It is immediately clear that the scammer is calling.

[Ingvar 72]

I played the victim out of myself for about half an hour! Phones, as a rule, from Avito and recruiting sites get to them.

[vindigo]

Yes, I think my phone number got lost to them from the headhunter. The fact that the bank leaked my personal data is unlikely.

[Evil543]

So what. They recognize it as a terrorist attack by Ukraine, and here's a reason for you, do what you want in accordance with international law.

[Anachoret]

Anyway) it was Mike and Nick)) it's time to press charges against the finely shaved or mattresses and demand an explanation)

[alystan]

Does the photo also belong to this source?
Why are the people around the bus dressed too summery?
I remember how a journalist from Komsomolskaya Pravda in the late 80s or early 90s, sitting on the couch, covered the events in Kyrgyz Uzgen. With all the details and horrors.
When will this fourth branch of power finally be attracted for their fantasies superfluous?

[Dude]

Does the photo also belong to this source?
Why are the people around the bus dressed too summery?

August 12, what, people in fur coats should be? The photo is genuine.

[alystan]

I wentofed off, how many times I told myself not to read diagonally.
I apologize for the mistake with the photo.

[Dude]

Nothing happens)))

[ksan]

In the 90_s - the most "yellow" (fake) newspaper in Russia, later I don’t know, I didn’t read

[Dude]

Quote: ksan

In the 90_s - the most "yellow" (fake) newspaper in Russia, later I don’t know, I didn’t read

In the early 90s - perhaps one of the most professional and popular publications. By the end of the 90s - yes, it turned yellow beyond measure.

[businessv]

Quote: tralflot1832

Moskovsky Komsomolets???Source of information!!!

Yeah, from the region "grandmother told me in the tram ...".

[svp67]

Quote: tralflot1832

Moskovsky Komsomolets???Source of information!!!

Yes, especially given the position taken by the editors of this publication, I would rather say that this article is that sabotage ...

[Glory1974]

Moskovsky Komsomolets???Source of information!!!

This version was announced a few months ago in the newspaper "Version". If you watch the video from the scene of the attack, you can see that a woman of Slavic appearance is putting someone on the bus, moving away and an explosion occurs. Despite the explosion, the woman goes on without turning around, although everyone around her turns in the direction of the explosion.
Already from the video, we can conclude that this woman is involved. Information about terrorist attacks carried out by Ukrainian sabotage groups is hushed up. In the areas bordering with Ukraine, announcements were posted about the action of the DRG with a request to be vigilant. This is 2015-16.

[Zaurbek]

and what were the consequences of terrorist acts from Ukraine? On the territory of the Russian Federation.? Even the border guard was killed

[belovvladimir]

The saboteurs acting against the civilian population should not be executed, but publicly and the population itself should be dealt with, in the square, publicly beaten with sticks, I know, it’s cruel, but it’s impossible in another way! You can downvote, but I would only execute publicly!

[monah]

Miracles are wonderful. The circle of people is defined, but they left, well, what difference does that make? The SBU needed people from Donbass and they calmly took them out! And where are our cool FSB, or is the gas service of the region conducting an investigation, assuming an illegal installation of HBO? In general, MK believe, disrespect yourself!

[Dude]

And where are our cool FSB, or is the gas service of the region conducting an investigation, assuming an illegal installation of HBO?

Until recently, they worked out the version with gas, although the very moment of the explosion was caught on several video cameras, and it is perfectly clear that it does not look like a gas explosion.
But the elections were approaching, it was ordered not to even mention the version of the terrorist attack

[Ryaruav]

Vladimir, yes, they must be destroyed, but not like that, so a direct path to the Middle Ages, although we have already almost arrived there under the strict control of multiplied by zero

[Emergency]

MK, and even referring to their own sources ?! They do not invent, as long as the customer is and preferably liberal.

[Graz]

and yet this explosion was very similar to a terrorist attack

[Asad]

So why did they immediately announce that there were no traces of explosives? Were the public reassured?

[Ryaruav]

I propose to create a heading "in the wake of incidents" and there will be a lot of questions, for example, the beating of a military man in the south, what happened to the defendants in the battle in the subway? and so on, and then very quickly everything is hushed up

[Asad]

Not a bad idea, from the explosion I remember exactly how fast it was published that there were no traces of explosives. I was also surprised that it worked so quickly.

[Ryaruav]

Nikolay, I believe that there are not enough finances for journalists who are looking for, but they try

[Konnick]

So why did they immediately announce that there were no traces of explosives? Were the public reassured?

So it was before the elections, what kind of explosives? no way

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Graz

and yet this explosion was very similar to a terrorist attack

than?!

[Charik]

an explosion in the regional center near the border with a hostile state, which threatened to hit the nuclear power plant 300 km away from them.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

under this you can adjust all the explosions of domestic gas

[vervolk]

It's Casus belli! If confirmed, a retaliatory strike at the places of deployment of the national battalions, command posts, headquarters, communication centers, warehouses. we must protect the citizens of Russia!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: vervolk

It's Casus belli!

tomorrow MK will write about the attack of the Martians, will we send missiles with a nuclear charge towards Mars ?!

[Kesha1980]

It seems to me that the FSB of the Voronezh region will have some questions about the MK.
And the girls in the photo are "legged".

[Charik]

it would be better if they had questions to citizens of a neighboring state located on the territory of the Russian Federation: where-what-why

[Kesha1980]

There are too many of them (these citizens). You can’t dig up much by wiretapping phones - now “normal terrorists” correspond in messengers. Therefore, no options.

[Mikhail Sidorov]

There is little information about the bus explosion. Here you still need to deal with the Kerch shooter. It feels like it's being silenced.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Silencing is possible and does take place. But can you imagine if Ukrainians were involved in the terrorist attack? We won't have much room for them. But some part of these people treats our country well .. You can’t go too far here.

[your1970]

Quote: Mikhail Sidorov

There is little information about the bus explosion. Here you still need to deal with the Kerch shooter. It feels like it's being silenced.

Silence in what? In the number of victims? That he killed himself? Or is it that they don’t chirp from each iron, reminding you 10 times a day?

[Mikhail Sidorov]

There is no official information on how the investigation is progressing. Six months have passed. And what about the Kerch shooter is not at all clear there. Why did the young man go to Ukraine before the terrorist attack, to whom? And I also had thoughts that Ukraine was involved in the explosion of the bus. It feels like they don't want to disturb public opinion in Russia.

[your1970]

Quote: Mikhail Sidorov

There is no official information on how the investigation is progressing. Six months have passed.

For such cases, half a year is like yesterday. According to a banal stabbing, an everyday case can go on for a year. Or even more ... and here the murder of several persons

Quote: Mikhail Sidorov

And what about the Kerch shooter is not at all clear there.

what exactly?
The criminal case was closed due to the death of the person. Everything else is the work of the special services about which we will never know anything.
Or do you want us to be told something like - "We caught a general of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on a bribe and he gave us another general of the SBU for money - who gave us his agents for money and so on ..."

[Mikhail Sidorov]

I want to say that the majority of the population of Russia does not realize the degree of danger that comes from Ukraine (from communicating with people at work, so exactly). As for the investigation of the explosion, versions arise at the initial stage of the investigation.

[your1970]

Quote: Mikhail Sidorov

As for the investigation of the explosion, versions arise at the initial stage of the investigation.

Versions can arise even at the stage of judicial review .... which happens quite often ...

[kitpit]

Have been investigating for a long time. If this is so, the facts should be made public and demand the extradition of the perpetrators and customers if they refuse to take countermeasures without hesitation in options.

[Burbulator]

Absolute nonsense.
The press wrote - it's cotton. Not an explosion.
Personally read.

[Azis]

Explosion - cotton.
Flooding - flooding.
Fire is smoke.
A fire with many corpses is a fire.
Falling economy - negative growth.
An epidemic is an increase in disease.
Plane crash - hard landing.

There are still translations of the "new officialism" there, but I do not quite agree and I will not cite.

[Dimy4]

In the Union, there was another type of anecdote for the official news feed: There was an explosion at a factory for the production of artillery shells, there were no casualties and no destruction.

[nnm]

If these are really the conclusions of the special services, and not just a duck from the media, then I would like to read about the liquidation of all participants, up to those who made the decision.

[akarfoxhound]

Quote: 30 vis

and Nazis, they work at construction sites, they don’t look ashamed in the eyes ...

They don't watch because they're embarrassed. Because they hate it! I know such a quiet person from Crimea (he lived right on the border of the Simferopol and Saki regions), this "creation" is already shaking and twisting

[Sergey Gusak]

The title of the article is "Even the Chechens were afraid of them!"

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Now a new version has been released. According to the publication "Moskovsky Komsomolets"

and there is no data from the publication SPIDinfo?!!!
what's flimsy?
a link to MK as a source of journalistic information is something like a link to a wiki in a history exam
BOTTOM!

[opuonmed]

if all this is true, then such a country will no longer be on the world map

[Dva parovoza]

Will you tape it up?

[Dva parovoza]

If "Officials have not commented on this information at the moment," then why the hell does this article appear on the resource? Does it contain relevant, not sucked from the finger (well, if from the finger) news and information content, or just a list of guesses from the "yellow press"?

[comradChe]

Our “non-brothers” must be taken very seriously, because they are the worst enemies for us. An example of their successful activity is the closing of the wiring over the pit with foam scraps in the children's corner in the Zimnyaya Cherry shopping center. We haven't heard the truth about this case... yet.

[Vdi73]

"Moskovsky Komsomolets" used to be a respected newspaper, now it's a 50/50 newspaper, so blindly believe in their information .... maybe they heard a ringing, but they don't know where it is, the main thing is to give out information. sensation.

[Letnab]

I remember there was a discussion of this explosion on the bus, and many paid attention to the woman who calmly left after the explosion, although before that she saw someone off to the bus ... Something suspicious.

[oracul]

Everything can be expected from the Ukrainian Nazis. For example, to put it mildly, I am very embarrassed by the periodic fires of large warehouses in the Moscow region, attempts to extradite people who defended the Donbass to Ukraine. If you want peace, prepare for war. You cannot pretend that everything that happens is accidental.

[Hort]

"Moskovsky Komsomolets", citing its own sources, called the cause of the explosion "a sabotage arranged by immigrants from the territory of Ukraine." At the same time, the phrase is used that the explosion, “most likely”, was committed in order to destabilize the situation in the Voronezh region.

stupid people from MK decided to hype on the aggravation of the situation around the Ukrainians?

[Tomato]

"It is reported that the circle of suspects has already been established," -- MK hit another bottom. Even guys with an IQ like MK would have to understand basic things. If suspects are identified, the Prosecutor General's Office must submit a request to Interpol. The Ukrainian authorities should detain the suspects. And if this is not done, Ukraine can be led around the table in all international organizations, starting with the UN Security Council. This is an accomplice of terrorism. But intuition tells me that there will be no request.

[Seld]

"According to the Moskovsky Komsomolets publication, citing its own sources"- SMALL for VO!!!!!!
If you are a reference, then immediately to SpeedInfo! Or - at Sportloto !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Seld]

Quote: oracul

Everything can be expected from the Ukrainian Nazis. For example, to put it mildly, I am very embarrassed by the periodic fires of large warehouses in the Moscow region, attempts to extradite people who defended the Donbass to Ukraine. If you want peace, prepare for war. You cannot pretend that everything that happens is accidental.

And I think - NO!!!!!! These are Somali pirates!!!!!! or Nigerian ... I tell you for sure!

[Seld]

Quote: DvaParovoza

If "Officials have not commented on this information at the moment," then why the hell does this article appear on the resource? Does it contain relevant, not sucked from the finger (well, if from the finger) news and information content, or just a list of guesses from the "yellow press"?

And for this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With this one!...
Look at Gusev. On his oval behind the face of the face! On his condition! Do you think it’s just that everything is falling out of the sky?!?!?! Here - you need to think!