Intelligence NM DPR recorded the activation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the line of contact

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have stepped up preparations for the offensive, the intelligence of the NM of the DPR captures new facts of preparations for the Ukrainian army units to escalate the conflict. In Donetsk, they strongly recommend that the Ukrainian military stay away from offensive plans.

Intelligence of the People's Militia of the DPR recorded the preparatory measures for the offensive. In particular, in 1 tank brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in tank battalions of 53 and 54 mechanized brigades and 58 separate motorized infantry brigade, vacations for all personnel were canceled and suspended. In addition, commanders of all levels are ordered to stay at temporary deployment points. Drivers and gunners are being discharged from hospitals ahead of schedule, the transfer of tank and self-propelled gun crews, as well as artillery crews to the line of contact, has been recorded.

The appearance of Ukrainian SOF servicemen on the front line has been detected, advanced units are being reinforced with additional personnel, and assault groups are being created. The deployment of UR-77 self-propelled rocket-propelled mine clearing units near the line of contact was noted, personnel receive portable mine clearing units UR-83P.

In total, according to intelligence data, Kiev has concentrated up to 120 thousand military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with heavy armored vehicles in the Donbas. In addition, there are illegal armed groups of nationalists and foreign mercenaries.

Against this background, the command of the NM DPR calls on the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to abandon their offensive plans, stating that in the event of aggression, the Ukrainian army will suffer irreparable damage.

Comments

[Artist]

Oh, the American masters of Ukraine provoke as best they can and lead the Ukrainians themselves to the slaughter.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Artist

and lead the Ukrainians themselves to the slaughter.

They themselves go there

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Seryoga64

Quote: Artist

and lead the Ukrainians themselves to the slaughter.

They themselves go there

Zelensky has just said that it is time for Ukraine to move on to offensive actions. Green has already realized that his power is beginning to leave his hands.

[75 Sergey]

Zelensky never held power in his hands, he is a puppet - an actor.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Will the offensive take place this time? Perhaps again some tricky game to tighten the time?

[Seryoga64]

Quote: SKVichyakow

Green has already realized that his power is starting to slip out of his hands.

Or received a specific order from the Fashington Regional Committee

[Ural resident]

Quote: Seryoga64

Quote: Artist

and lead the Ukrainians themselves to the slaughter.

They themselves go there

I agree, it is enough to read the comments on Ukrainian channels. There, the same Russians in good Russian write their thoughts on the verge of a "psychiatric hospital". And they are ready to cut the Buryats in the Donbass, and they want to burn the inhabitants into slavery and in general the entire Donbass in the fire. So until the brains are properly set, they will not understand.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

So until the brains are properly set, they will not understand.

And still they don't understand

[Palmyra]

For the most part, these are bots that support the fighting spirit of hamsters ... The West allocates a lot of money for this.

[Cananecat]

So far, no one has led anyone to the slaughter. The fact that the OSCE is blind and deaf has long been known, and the fact that remote demining systems have appeared near the line of demining only now (or has intelligence just noticed them?) does not mean anything at all. Heavy equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can come close to the gray zone and stand there. What is all this for?
Suppose at the moment of incandescence, one of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be fired upon by the Natsiks ... do you think someone will figure out who fired? There are many scenarios, but this is not a slaughter. Do not yet kill the drugs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ... so that everything is within the limits of deafness and blindness of the OSCE.
The slaughter will begin later ... when no one will understand where it came from.

[prior]

one of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be fired upon by the Nazis ...

A request to the Nazis to shoot more accurately, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not hesitate to answer the Nazis.
Good hunting, banderlogs.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Canecat

So far, no one has led anyone to the slaughter.

Aha. They are just for the sake of a joke, they are concentrating troops and armored vehicles. Shelling almost every day

[Cananecat]

Quote: Seryoga64

Shelling almost every day

And before that, there were no shellings?
Until they cross the gray zone, until they enter into direct combat with the troops of the republics, all this should be considered as psychological pressure.
Here who will outstrip whom.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Canecat

Until they cross the gray zone

This is from the next thread.

President of Ukraine: It's time to move on to offensive actions

Read it in full

[Cananecat]

Quote: Seryoga64

It's time to move on

It's time to move on and move on... feel the difference. In the first case, active preparation, which can be curtailed, in the second case, active actions, where the back can no longer be included.

[Barberry25]

I think there are two points:
1) the Americans needed to prepare for defense, which is why they pull together everyone they can;
2) in Ukraine, the situation with the economy is very bad and they hope to launch a small failed offensive in order to get money and weapons, especially since in the West they have previously blocked the next tranches, and the terms of loan payments are on fire

[The black]

The likelihood that the ukrovermacht will unleash another massacre is high. They won’t go anywhere if they receive a “face” command from across the ocean ..... Here they will spoil China and the OI and accuse Russia of all mortal sins once again ... us", "the whole world will help us". Here the question is: how far will the ukrovermacht go in their crimes. For a successful assault, the Armed Forces of Ukraine simply need more skilled and highly motivated infantry and really echelons of shells. There is nothing of this yet. No cool infantry, no ammunition wagons. So far, there have been no deliveries of weapons that would radically facilitate the assault on urban areas by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. ..Another thing is if they start using aviation and heavy artillery in cities. Here, I think, we already want or do not want to have to intervene. Troops, of course, should not be sent in, but to land the ukroluftwaffe, suppress artillery, and deliver pinpoint strikes on military infrastructure is the very thing. And this must be done.

[Barberry25]

Well, I don’t even know about the introduction of troops, you can bring in a peacekeeping contingent and declare the recognition of the LDNR as an independent state - it’s one thing to fight with the corps, and another thing is against regular units. Here, most likely, everything will rest against "threats of sanctions" if they are in in any case, they will be introduced, it makes sense to act actively

[Cananecat]

For a successful assault, the Armed Forces of Ukraine simply need more skilled and highly motivated infantry and really echelons of shells.

Sure? And how many Armed Forces will it take to break through the Donetsk direction in order to reach the outskirts of Donetsk and gain a foothold? I think that after two boilers of mind they have increased and they will not cover the cities, but will hide behind the population.

[Don karleone]

Are you ready for the opening of the Olympics?

[Alexander 3]

External control does not imply a different opinion.

[barclay]

Quote: Don Karleone

Are you ready for the opening of the Olympics?

Maybe. Not for the first time. Let's hope that our plans are laid out long ago for such a case.

[ada]

Plans yes. Implementation? If I'm wrong, correct me. By 08.08.08. plans were also, maybe not the best, but they were. But, there were no plans: a global cultural event, the absence of an EP in the country, the dismissal of the head of the General Staff, the repair of buildings and the disconnection of communication lines of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the replacement of the security brigade of the General Staff with a private security company, the sudden myopia of the DM, evaporation into the space of the Moscow Region, then list the meanings no. Underestimate the enemy - like death. Lessons learned. The move was made first.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Don Karleone

Are you ready for the opening of the Olympics?

Yes, the United States and England have prepared everything for a provocation in Ukraine. They have already begun to take their diplomats and their families out of Kiev. Dills are just waiting for the command, the beginning of the provocation. They seem to be so itchy that they want to die. Perhaps they will begin before the delivery of a written response from Russia.

[tralflot1832]

What do you think, should we answer right away or should we wait for the American answer. I think we should wait.

[SKVichyakow]

Zelensky has just said that it is time for Ukraine to move on to offensive actions. It's not going to wait for an answer.

[Seryoga64]

The appearance on the front line of the military personnel of the MTR of Ukraine was discovered,

Attacks and provocations

[Region39KGD]

Thanks to Uncle Lenin for our bloody future of fratricidal war. Sovereign misunderstandings have been created throughout Russia, and it’s shit for the descendants to rake.

[Sanichsan]

do not bring down from a sick head to a healthy one. "sovereign misunderstandings" were bred by the Kravchuks with Yeltsins and local Nazis, not Lenin.

[Region39KGD]

remind who created the Ukrainian SSR in 18?

[Sanichsan]

that is, did you forget that the Ukrainian SSR until 1991 was normally part of the USSR? it happens ... it was Lenin who probably supported the separatists in 1991? or was he still able to prevent the separation of the outskirts in 1918, as Finland had done not long before?

[Region39KGD]

how could something that was not separated??? Ukraine, the Ukrainian language and Ukrainians were created by councils! Before them, there was a single and indivisible Russian empire without any cancerous ethnic neoplasms.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Region39KGD

Ukraine, the Ukrainian language and Ukrainians were created by councils!

this is Milyukov then advice? What a twist!

Quote: Region39KGD

Before them, there was a single and indivisible Russian empire without any cancerous ethnic neoplasms.

well, a little with the Pale of Settlement and regular Jewish pogroms ... well, there a little Black Hundred Nazism flourished in a stormy color, well, the one that, after the revolution, even from abroad stank in the face of all sorts of Reds and Ilins, but so yes. there was a complete bliss of the air it’s just that the Semenovites had to periodically perform punitive operations, crush peasant riots and massacre the Cossacks in the capitals, but yes. finally indivisible the Finns just fell off, otherwise it’s not divisible, well, there’s a bit of the Far East ...

[Region39KGD]

I have a question, as an ardent communist, were you even interested in the life and philosophy of your forefather of the communist ideology, K. Mark? Have you read about the opinion of this German individual about the Russian people?

We will consider the following sources: a number of articles by K. Marx, written by him for the American newspaper "New York Daily Tribune" in the period from March 1853 to April 1856 (2) and subsequently published under the heading "The Eastern Question" (3); and articles published by him in The Free Press of London for the period from August 1856 to April 1857 under the general title "Revelations on the History of Secret Diplomacy in the Eighteenth Century" (4).

In these works, Karl Marx expresses his opinion about Russia as a state of barbarians, having a constant and unchanging policy, regardless of the historical period, with a constant desire to fool its neighbors and Europe. Russia is portrayed as a natural "fooled enemy" of European countries. Moreover, as Marx writes, the race that inhabits Russia is a race of barbarians. And against these "barbarians", concludes the classic of socialist thought, it is necessary to launch a military campaign to advance European interests further to the East.

And you still do not believe that a bunch of Jewish terrorists under the dope of Russophobic ideology tore the Russian empire into pieces of national formations? Do you still call yourself Russian after that, or are you already a citizen of the world?

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Region39KGD

Have you read about the opinion of this German individual about the Russian people?

Judging by the above fragment, you definitely did not read ...
no, that's cool! as an argument of a hostile attitude towards Russia, cite the interpretation of the articles of K. Marx by a certain Sasov. and in this attempt they did not even bother to pull quotes from Marx's articles! completely lebiroid propagandons got lazy! only Sasov's conjectures. below the plinth! although this may be due to the target audience you ate out...
PS
this attempt has already been analyzed by Klim Zhukov, and unlike Sasov, he cites articles and fragments to which Sasov appeals, well, those that Sasov did not cite in his article instead of them there is what you quoted ...
PS PS
K. Mrks is valuable for his work on the study of capitalism and class theory, and not for those whom he loved or did not love. he is an economic scientist, not a propagandist like Goebbels or Mussolini.

[Kronos]

Nazis like to talk about Jewish terrorists, are you one of them?

[Kaufman]

Ltd! We climbed out! Russia is for Russians, right?! The rest sit and be silent?

[lukewarm]

Alexander! Let the man crunch on French rolls! For one and indivisible! Ympertsy, what really.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: unwillingly

Let the man crunch on French rolls!

must not they are over there, in VO, already under the sauce of uniting the country into open fascism, they are pushing Ilyin, and many are being led! the union!
not a brother, you can’t give them a descent our weapons are truth and facts, with which we will beat them
but don't worry, they climbed out and will climb out and make us laugh freedom of speech is a great thing you don’t need to beat and torture anyone, they themselves will tell who they are

[lukewarm]

Oh, it's a mess without me And not at all in Ukraine, mind you. This is what we have "unity". Why not. If there is no basis for unity from the word at all, then one must "unite" according to the national principle. Extremes are harmful everywhere. "Internationalism" in its current interpretation has degenerated into globalism (dictatorship of transnational corporations, tolerance, migration, multiculturalism). It seems like nation-states should resist this. In our country, we see repulsed YmPers (up to the monarchists), a "guarantor" who adores Ilyin and simultaneously signs a migration amnesty. We live in fun times.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: unwillingly

We live in fun times.

Yeah then we have the "Immortal Regiment" and criminal punishment for the rehabilitation of fascism, and then Ilyin as a national idea oh, our authorities will play out with this ideological schizophrenia

[lukewarm]

That's for sure! It was about shizuha that HZ wanted to write, something stopped him: he wrote "fun time." I ask you not to judge strictly who reads, but (strongly IMHO): with the intervention of the authorities in the "Immortal Regiment", this movement turns from a personal, informal (as it was at the very beginning) into an administrative event. As for Ilyin, I doubt that there are "fascists" in the Kremlin. Here is this: in peripheral capitalism (and even in a general crisis), the ideology of personal enrichment and well-being does not work very well. The food base has shrunk and those in power need "victims": a decrease in the standard of living, well-being, etc. Here another ideology is needed. That's what they're looking for frantically. And he throws them from Pobeda to Ilyin and Kolchak. I repeat, if there is no basis for unity from the word at all, it must be invented. That's where Ilyin helps them. Bullshit that got dirty about the Nazis! Do not get used to it, Mannerheim's board has already been hung up! True, there are again problems with national unity. Already on the other side. The guarantor stalks Ilyin, and brings in migrants with the other hand. That's "imperial"!

[Looking for]

yes, you are generally stupid. or something !!

[igork735]

Read the memoirs of Skoropadsky. About the formation of nationalist units in 1917 in Ukraine under Kerensky, the weakening of the German front, etc.

[Arkadich]

national republics? The requirement that at least 50% of their staff should be of local nationality, etc. cutting borders from incomprehensible Wishlist. It was precisely Lenin who laid the mine of nationalism. At that time, this was partially justified by attracting all peoples to their side, but then why?

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Arkadich

It was precisely Lenin who laid the mine of nationalism.

well wow! that is, you are Nazis, but Lenin is to blame for this?
you would first find Nazi organizations in the USSR. they were not in the USSR. Russian Nazi organizations were abroad, but not in the USSR. but Lenin is to blame for Nazism on the territory of all Kazakhstans and Ukraines ... I am struck by this logic, or rather its absence.

[Arkadich]

Hanging labels and, as you like to put it, "all kinds of Kazakhs and Ukrainians" shows who the nationalist is here.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Arkadich

shows who is a nationalist.

Yes Yes Yes! of course I, and not those who separated under the slogans Ukraine for Ukrainians or Georgia for Georgians. by the way, the last is really the election slogan of Zviad Gamsakhurdia
but of course I am a Nazi, and of course Lenin is to blame for all this!
By the way, since you are not the most Nazi here, can you tell us about the fate of the Russians, in non-Nazi, in your opinion, Georgia, in which under Lenin, well, the one who was guilty of Nazism, and after him, under the USSR, many Russians lived, and now there is nothing at all. how is that?
no, my friend, these are not labels, these are facts. and I see that they cut your eyes

[Arkadich]

The nationalists separated the republics, this process began in the middle of the 80 of the last century, by people who grew up in the USSR. So there were already problems.
The problems of Russians in the national republics touched me personally and through my friends and relatives.
So far, you have not cited a single fact, some emotions, moreover, negative ones.
No, they don't cut, don't flatter yourself.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Arkadich

The nationalists separated the republics, this process began in the middle of the 80 of the last century, by people who grew up in the USSR. So there were already problems.

I completely agree.
about Khrushchev. remember the amnesty of Ukrainian nationalists to the tune of political repression?

Quote: Arkadich

The problems of Russians in the national republics touched me personally and through my friends and relatives.

and Lenin personally participated in this? Well, since he is to blame...or maybe local nationalists inflated nationalist sentiments? By the way, the fighters against the very same Lenin and the communists ... will you somehow decide with the communists under whom internationalism worked perfectly or with the Nazis for whom Lenin is to blame for everything?

Quote: Arkadich

So far, you have not cited a single fact, some emotions, moreover, negative ones.

re-read the previous post. I brought at least one fact. Or do you think the Communist-Leninists go to the polls under the slogan "Georgia for Georgians"?

[Arkadich]

So, we agree on something.
On point 2, Lenin has to do with it, I said that his policy of belittling the titular nation and the forcible promotion of national cadres led to the growth of frenzied nationalism. He was a theoretician and he clearly could not predict how his theory would be distorted in the realities of the development of society.
I'm not with those and not with others.
No, they don’t go, and as far as I know the story, they didn’t go. But this does not apply to our dispute.
As for my arguments, you have not yet expressed anything. Nat
republics, the forcible appointment of national cadres, and how can we count the detachments formed by the Bolsheviks according to national affiliation.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Arkadich

On point 2, Lenin has to do with it, I said that his policy of belittling the titular nation and the forcible promotion of national cadres led to the growth of frenzied nationalism.

I'm afraid to ask, but this is "humiliation of the titular nation and the forcible promotion of national cadres" are you talking about involving the local population in the management of the regions?
do you not notice that you are lobbying for the banal replacement, for example, of Ukrainian Nazism with Russian Nazism?
Lenin quite succeeded in formulating the ideas of internationalism, but Stalin managed to implement them, and as I understand it, they are to blame for this? in that they crushed Russian nationalism? specify what you mean? you totally confused me...

Quote: Arkadich

Nat
republics, forcible appointment of national cadres,

Excuse me, but before Lenin, this ... what did you call it .. "the titular nation" was not forcibly put in leadership positions there? all that the Bolsheviks did was to allow the locals to manage their regions, and this is logical because it is implied by the key idea of ​​communism - equality in rights.

Quote: Arkadich

but how can one count the detachments formed by the Bolsheviks according to national affiliation.

clarify what you mean? maybe all the same in terms of language, and not nat?

I would very much like you to answer a simple question: are you for equality in rights, and therefore with the Bolsheviks, or are you for the dominance of the rights of the titular nation, no matter Russian, German or English, and therefore with the Nazis?

[Arkadich]

The third time I answer not with those and not with others.
Lenin's approach to solving interethnic problems was the recognition of the right of nations to self-determination, further, as he considered under the control of the dictatorship of the proletariat, into one single communist nation with a single language and a single atheistic faith without any distinctions by nationality.
The slogan on the right of nations to self-determination was put forward, as a result, the following decisions were already adopted at the 10th Congress
- to develop and strengthen those operating in their native language - the court, the administration, the economic bodies, the authorities, made up of local people.
Germs of nationalism began to appear in the national republics. A local national elite began to appear, which, becoming stronger, demanded more and more rights and a decrease in control from the center.
(I think if V.I. Lenin had lived for another five years, he would have faced this).
The fact that Lenin quite managed to formulate the ideas of internationalism, I agree, but the fact that Stalin implemented them, no.
Stalin generally looked diametrically at the solution of the national question and solved it in his own way by beating the national elites, and he began this even during the life of V.I. Lenin when he was ill - "national deviationists" in Georgia.
By the way, V.I. Lenin, before his death, in the article "On the Question of Nationalities or Autonomization" wrote "That is why in this case it is better to oversalt in the direction of compliance and gentleness towards national minorities than undersalt. That is why in this case the fundamental interest of proletarian solidarity, and consequently the proletarian class struggle requires that we never take a formal attitude to the national question, but always take into account the obligatory difference in the attitude of the proletarian of an oppressed (or small) nation from an oppressing (or big) nation.
Doesn't resemble the Black Lives Matter movement
But as I wrote above, he believed in the strength of the proletariat and the spirit of internationalism. As reality has shown, he was unfortunately mistaken.
Well, V.V. Putin spoke about the protection of the titular nation in 2021, if you want to read it.

[Kapral Alphych]

It was Lenin who laid the mine of nationalism

And 30 years of wild capitalism didn’t have a hand in this at all ??? When did nationalism flourish there? When did the fairy tale come about? Why has nothing been opposed to this for 30 years!? It's like blaming Peter 1 for recapturing Ukraine from the Swedes near Poltava - if only Central Europe had been there for a long time and we wouldn't have problems with them now!

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Kapral Alphich

Why has nothing been opposed to this for 30 years!?

Well, there is an answer to this question. recently, our guarantor said in a direct test that he sees the works of the unforgettable Vanyusha Ilyin, the ideologist of Russian fascism, as a national idea we have an institute named after him.
yet very simply, Nazism is the unifying idea of ​​capitalism. we now have a cap country

[d1975]

I agree with you, no matter what the empire was, but it collected the land, and did not squander it. Just don't talk about Alaska.

[Kronos]

Only many of these lands were against - Poland, Finland for example.

[d1975]

And is it really important when empires do business. The Psheks themselves are to blame for the deed, and the Finns in general were only grateful.

[Kronos]

This is important when they start which empire they ruined and other crunchy rolls.

[tralflot1832]

I have such a suspicion that our General Staff has known the date for a long time. Therefore, for a start, there was such a movement along the lines of the Russian Foreign Ministry. Another statement by the Foreign Ministry about prudence, and if they don’t understand, another Ministry will deal with this issue.

[Barberry25]

it’s interesting what ours will decide, just arrange a whack or start promotion

[Kapral Alphych]

I have such a suspicion that our General Staff has long known the date

It will be very strange if our General Staff does not know the date! Then the entire General Staff must be dispersed to hell!

[gridasov]

From the standpoint of analyzing the development of events in the near future, the concentration of certain groups of armed formations presents an opportunity to stabilize the situation precisely by implementing radical decisions. This is physics - an abscess is the concentration of a process with the highest point of its development, after which the transition period determines a new process, but already on the basis of an established guideline and understanding of how this can again end.

[George Koval]

Aggression against Donbass will begin with a provocation, which will involve Nazis and representatives of private military companies dressed in Russian uniforms. Disguised provocators will attack a unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which will be completely cut out. They will blame Russia for this and hit the Donbass. This will happen during the departure of Putin VV to China for the Olympics

[VSO-396]

Why such difficulties? A provocation ... They will simply go on the offensive in several areas at once.

[Mikhail3]

Most likely it will. They can organize any provocation, but why? Information attacks have already been carried out, they have already reached the goal, "Russia is the aggressor", Black Mordor is attacking ... This whole war is a response to our security ultimatum. If the GDP does not give up the ultimatum, the war will be unleashed. In it, we risk everything, and the West is only Ukrainian lives, which he does not care about at all.
All this GDP had to calculate even before the ultimatum was issued, it seems that the West does not demonstrate anything complicated. We'll take a look...

[Arkadich]

Everything seems to be heading towards the hot phase of diplomacy. For as the classic said, "If at the beginning of the play a gun hangs on the wall, then (by the end of the play) it should shoot."

[TerraSandera]

And yet, I do not believe, there have already been many such "offensives", and still nothing. They will not merge them now, the time is not favorable.

[Stepan S]

President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky said that Ukrainian intelligence has learned to effectively counteract external aggression and believes that it is time to move on to offensive actions to defend national interests.
We are on the verge of a grand schucher.

[babylon]

This is the result of a truce, how could one trust and recognize the Maydan power

[Mikhail3]

That is, there will be war.
I hope Putin has some ideas...

[Kapral Alphych]

How are things with the Armed Forces of Novorossiya? Combat training? The mood of the fighters? How long will they last?

[RED_ICE]

Olympic Games coming soon. So they are preparing to repeat 08.08.08