Russian diplomat warned Ukraine and the West about the consequences of provocations in Donbas

Russia will not stand idle during the provocations of Ukraine and the West in the Donbass, the answer will follow immediately. This was stated by the head of the Russian delegation at the talks in Vienna on military security and arms control Konstantin Gavrilov.

A Russian diplomat warned Ukraine and Western countries about the consequences of provocations in the Donbas, saying that Moscow would not tolerate attacks on people's republics where Russian citizens live. Gavrilov called the Western media campaign accusing Russia of allegedly preparing an attack on Ukraine as an "information cover" and did not rule out that a provocation was being prepared in the Donbass, followed by accusations against Russia.

Everything was clearly stated and warned: we will not tolerate when our citizens are attacked. Clearly stated, in all the media clearly sounded

- he said, adding that Russia will not publish "threatening and propagandistic" statements, as the United States does, but will react and respond to specific actions. And how, let them now think and analyze in the West and Ukraine.

Gavrilov also explained Russia's position on the US security guarantees. According to him, Moscow will not endlessly wait for a response from the US and NATO to its proposals. If the demands are ignored, Russia will defend them by other means, which both Americans and Europeans will feel, and on "its own neck."

The counter is ticking. Our leaders have already said that the question is not about months, the question is not even about weeks. We are awaiting a written response. Hope we get it next week

- he added.

Comments

[yuriy55]

If it goes like this:

Everything was clearly stated and warned: we will not tolerate when our citizens are attacked. Clearly stated, in all the media clearly sounded

The Russian people will support you in their majority.
The main thing is not to wait, but to make the Ukrainian side forget about the Donbass in general, because of the economic problems that Russia ALREADY had to provide for them...

[ser-pov]

Quote: yuriy55

If it goes like this:

Everything was clearly stated and warned: we will not tolerate when our citizens are attacked. Clearly stated, in all the media clearly sounded

The Russian people will support you in their majority.
The main thing is not to wait, but to make the Ukrainian side forget about the Donbass in general, because of the economic problems that Russia ALREADY had to provide for them...

Things are not in Khokhlostane here! Things are more global. It is clear that if these khokh.ly twitch, then "it will be impossible to wash and scrape off, it's easier to paint over" ... But ho.hol gets richer with a thought ...

[Seryoga64]

Quote: yuriy55

because of the economic problems that Russia ALREADY had to provide them ...

Well, it seems they began to move from words to deeds

[Asad]

And what is the personal opinion of an official that will help the transition from words to deeds?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: ASAD

And what is the personal opinion of an official that will help the transition from words to deeds?

Well, let's put it this way, this is not an ordinary official, but a diplomat, which greatly distinguishes the position of an official of a district municipality from an official representing the state. Everything is different here - status, competence, awareness and authority. This one is authorized to speak on behalf of the state. Do you catch the difference?
PS- besides, which is not unimportant, it does not have the prefix "ex", which usually enlightens the brain and enables an official of any rank to say what he really thinks, but after the fact.

[Asad]

Did he express the official opinion of the Foreign Ministry?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: ASAD

Did he express the official opinion of the Foreign Ministry?

What's with the Foreign Ministry? He-

Konstantin Gavrilov, head of the Russian delegation at the talks in Vienna on issues of military security and arms control.

The head of the delegation, and once delegated, then be authorized to represent the interests of Russia, within the framework of which he voices her position on a particular issue.

[Asad]

A speech on behalf of the state of Russia is one thing, but a speech on the YouTube channel, Insulating tape live, is completely different.

[Nyrobsky]

A speech on behalf of the state of Russia is one thing, but a speech on the YouTube channel, Insulating tape live, is completely different.

I operate with data that is provided within the framework of the topic under discussion. There will be a link, we will look at what you are trying to push through. Unfounded filings, observations and speculations such as who shook hands with whom first, and who sits and how he looked askance, this is from the evil one. Not interested

[Dmitry Malakhov]

[/ quote] Most likely they will exchange the Main and Crimea for access to accounts and villas in Miami. [quote]

Did they whisper a secret to you in the smoking room of the White House? Better tell what they smoke and how much. I just really want to believe that such nonsense gives rise to a stoned brain, and not its absence.

[alystan]

So they would go to your Insulating tape live. They explained to you in Russian how Gavrilov made his statement.

[Prisoner]

Clown's cap at Kuleba. He won't give it to anyone. In general, you are lucky to have fun. The president is a comedian, Lyashko is a homo, Kuleba is a clown, the rest are backing dancers. Celebration of life, EPRST!

[ak1978]

Are you a citizen of Ukraine, why are you so worried about Kuleba's behavior? A sign of a propagandist is an attempt to change the subject of discussion. Here we are talking about the behavior of the Russian diplomat Gavrilov.

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

His behavior is normal ... responsible !!! They just don’t throw such words out of nothing to do! I don’t know about you, but I’m happy with such a declared position at such a level!

[bayard]

You are a citizen of Ukraine. And it is you who plans to pinch the lid of the piano on the causal place of the current clown president.
Threats voiced at the negotiations to your masters and owners concern first of all your masters and owners . And Ukraine in this scenario is just a bargaining chip, which is sacrificed without any regret.
Your gentlemen want to drag Russia into the "war in Ukraine", but they are presented with the inevitable nuclear ashes in the place of their own cities, military bases, nuclear power plants and other infrastructure.
This is not a desire for negotiations. This is a reason to end all negotiations.
Or accept surrender.

[bayard]

Quote: ak1978

Should the Uru ulus return in full force to the Golden Horde?

So in our empire, not only the Golden Horde was ... many hordes in our Empire.

Blessed memory is my ancestor Genghis Khan
Grunt, mischievous with arshin mustache
On a sharp horse like a whirlwind before thunders
In a brilliant shell flew into an enemy camp
And powerfully dissected with a TARTAR hand
All that resisted the mighty hero ...
my blessed ancestor
The same rude
Like his grandfather - the brave Genghis Khan.
In a chekmet lightly among the smashing swords
He ruled the hordes, thundering war in the fields
I burn with the same flame as Genghis Khan.
Like my ancestor Batu
I rush to branna prue.
But to me a gracious count in French robes
Come to Vanguard
Like a dandy on a walk ...
frill
fix your hair
And show yourself to the mustaches as Lindor? ...
Pity the descendant of the poor Batu
And for checkmet accept
my poems are bad .. "

Did you recognize the author?
He is Denis Ivanovich Davydov himself.
Direct descendant of Genghis Khan and Batu.
And in his portrait, he is VERY similar to his ancestor.
Have you seen a full-length portrait of Genghis Khan?
A handsome Caucasian with a long mustache?
And his beloved wife Berke?
A fair-haired tall and stately beauty in a long medieval European dress?
Yes, I myself, on my mother's line, come from the ancestral village / village of the Khanzhins - direct descendants of Genghis Khan. Khanjin is translated as the Hand of the King. Hereditary chieftains of the All-Great Army of the Urals and Semirechensk.
Ataman Khanzhin, together with Platov, led his Cossacks to the Borodino field and became famous for the famous raid in the rear of the French army.
Mughals (that's right, not the German antics "Mongols") - from the word MOG, MOGI, "goal" - earth / steppe. Total MUGULAS - GIANTS OF THE EARTH.
Tatars - from the word "thief" - to cut, and "ares" - warriors / warriors of the Earth. Total - Tatars - warriors of the Earth.
They spoke two dialects - Russian (closer to the Avestan dialect or Sanskrit) and Turkic.
"The Turks are from the Russian family, from the redheads, such strength, a doubled root of a reliable essence, the descendants of a hero and a lynx ..." - a fragment of an inscription on an obelisk / tombstone of Tsar / Emperor Tegin, found in Khakassia in the Valley of the Kings.
The history of the peoples of the Empire is written on the obelisk on 4 sides. In three languages ​​- on two sides in Russian (in Russian runes - a syllabary), one side in UIGUR (ancestors of the Turks), and one in Chinese - in hieroglyphs. It tells the story of the appearance of the Turks - from Russian clans who came from the north and asked for permission to settle on the border with the Chini (ancestors of modern Chinese) as border guards, advanced army and customs services. Later, their appearance was affected by the border admixture of Chinese (Chinian) and Dravidian blood.
The words TURKISH, TATARS, COSSACKS - mean the same thing - military class and border guards. Moreover, the TURKS and COSSACKS are the border guards, and the TATARS are the soldiers of the regular Army (Horde, Order, Ordung).
So - our Cossacks (especially the Urals, Semirechye and Siberia) are the direct descendants of those same "Mongol-Tatars".
But we don’t have any Chini, “Mongolian” (false concept today) and Dravidian blood. On the "Scythian gold" (and silver), the portraits of our ancestors cannot be distinguished from us.

Quote: ak1978

In Khanbalik, Nogai tribunals will be held on Uruses.

What do you know about Khanbalik?
About one of the Capitals of our Russian Empire?
Our Yoke was mighty, just and beautiful, a light burden in taxes and perfect in laws. For the Yoke is the One State.

Quote: ak1978

decision-making centers - Moscow, Vladimir-on-Klyazma and Yaroslavl

They became centers much later.

Now about you. Kiev was founded by KIMRY, "famous" for their betrayals during the Alano-Gotha wars. And many times they were severely punished for that.
But you're not from Kiev.
Right ?
And do not even belong to the same species of a reasonable person with us.
The genetics is different.

If I were younger and more naive, I could pity you.
But not at this time .
And not in this life.

[bayard]

Quote: ak1978

I tell you about the violation of international treaties,

... About the ABM treaty?
... About the INF Treaty?
... Maybe about the obligation to not move NATO to the east?
Do not include the former republics of the Soviet Union in NATO?
... Treaty on open skies?
... Nuclear deal with Iran?
What else ? What other treaties has the US not violated?

And the rest was about genealogies.
Since you are talking about the Horde, Khanbalik and the "Mongols" (Moguls) with the Tatars.
And the Moscow mathematician has nothing to do with it - we already know our genealogies.

[Alex Justice]

Trump ruled America on a clown channel too?

[ak1978]

And did not win the election, and even resigned as President of the United States

[bayard]

Quote: Nyrobsky

The head of the delegation, and once delegated, then be authorized to represent the interests of Russia, within the framework of which he voices her position on a particular issue.

I would pay SPECIAL attention to the words that the measures that will be taken by Russia will primarily affect the United States, England and Europe and "they will feel it in their own skin."
Such actions are an ultimatum with demands unacceptable to the enemy, statements that immediately after the refusal of the Russian Federation it will take the most decisive actions to ensure its own security and the security of its allies. And such things are said only after all the necessary actions and measures have already been implemented and taken, and at the end of next week they will simply be announced and implemented.
And these actions (creating a fatal threat to "decision-making centers") will primarily affect the United States and England.
And this is expected to come as a surprise to many.

[ak1978]

And can you clarify exactly how the Russian Federation is going to act in case of rejection of the "ultimatum" and when exactly will it start? Otherwise, the text does not indicate the term, but I want to speculate on the natural gas market;)

[bayard]

Quote: ak1978

And you can clarify exactly how the Russian Federation is going to act

Maybe you also have a key to the apartment?
Where is the money?
Yes, and for the success of your speculations.
Let it be a surprise.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: ak1978

Competence in using expressions from the everyday life of the inhabitants of the St. Petersburg gateway? “The current situation on the air of the YouTube channel“ Izolenta live ”- And this is the level of MGIMO! How rotten everything is in other areas showed the corvette "Agile"

With how rotten you are, and it didn’t stand next to you. How does the cruiser "Nedoukraina" rust there? Haven't drank on tridents yet?

[Prisoner]

And on the neck for such spitting will not give? Or has the indulgence already been handed over?

[ak1978]

Understood nothing. Do you deny the fact of the protracted construction of one corvette that ended in complete collapse?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: ak1978

Compare the incomparable. Once again - I don't give a damn about what the Ukrainians have there.

Come on! The fly is visible in flight.

Quote: ak1978

The “power” of the Russian fleet burned down, which took longer to build than a squadron in NATO countries. What was the diplomat going to fight with, except for swearing?

Do some of us burn and sink or what? Norwegians just now the new frigate "Helge Ingstad" was knocked on the barge and sunk, now it has gone under decommissioning. The mattresses of the large-deck UDC "Bonom Richard" were completely burned the other day, and also went to scrap. Think about how now all the Americans and Norwegians are whining that they now have to hang out a white flag. Now they have nothing to fight except for the mat.

[bayard]

Quote: ak1978

Our hero has been built since 2013. In service 0 (zero) days. Total built 0.

What are you scratching here? The lead corvette of this series last year came to the Pacific Fleet with two "Warsaws" having made the transition along the southern route.
And they were built (the head one and the one that burned down) for so long, because the air defense system was brought up, they waited a long time for the "Barrier" radar. Now a rather large series of them has been ordered at two shipyards at once - Amur Shipyard and Yantar.

Quote: ak1978

Here is such a basis for the "ultimatum" to the whole world.

And the ultimatum is not set by the Fleet, but by other, much more radical means of persuasion.

[bayard]

Quote: ak1978

We didn’t seem to drink at brotherhood.

I'm afraid to even imagine.

Quote: ak1978

A series and 29 pieces were ordered back in the XNUMXs.

Not ordered, but planned, these are different things.
Here's the post before:

Quote: ak1978

at the moment there are 8 copies of the previous models in service.

and right there:

Quote: ak1978

So far, one is zero.

Although the lead 20385 has been in service for a long time, and arrived at the Pacific Fleet last year.
I just forgot the three-year student of the "Bots of Soros" courses that the plans were revised, and instead of the 20380 and 20385 held in production, in the Russian Federation they began to massively build small corvettes, the so-called RTOs in our country. Which are the essence of corvettes, but with an emphasis on strike weapons. "Buyany", "Karakurt" ... you certainly did not try to put everything together. But this is the basis of the BMZ forces.

Quote: ak1978

Turkey has one stronger fleet.

Do you think the Turks will fight with us? Yes, and the fleet, which is only good against Greece.

Quote: ak1978

How would a normal world be like this

Is the gay and transgender world "normal"?
Are states that don't value signed treaties "normal?
or are states that encroach on DIPLOMATIC property normal?
Or is a state in which blacks put the police on their knees "normal"? .... Although you are just one of those ...
For a child who grew up in a homosexual family, all this is of course ... "normal".

Quote: ak1978

Already forever neutral Sweden and Finland asked to join NATO

And there your brothers in orientation have bred. Although Finland is frankly sorry.
The United States has now lost its nuclear power, their ICBMs and strategic aviation exist only conditionally and nominally. Yes, and the Ohio SSBNs are frankly old and conditionally combat-ready. And they could not make a full salvo from their very birth - due to the weakness of the corps. Only 4 missiles at a time.
It's time for a grown-up conversation.

[ak1978]

Having discarded insults and lyrics (I don’t expect anything else from sofas - at your bot farm, the bosses from the doorway are not trained in manners), let’s focus on the main thing:

1. "in the Russian Federation they began to massively build small corvettes, the so-called RTOs in our country." What does RTO have to do with it, if initially the conversation was about project 20380, the development of which is the burnt one.

2. If we are already talking about RTOs, then they ordered 8 back in 2015. There are 3 (three) in service so far. By the way, the basis of this project is drawings from the 1990s (read 1980s). Also the legacy of the deceased USSR. To call it mass construction does not dare.

The Russian Federation has a good coastal defense fleet, there to catch pirates and smugglers. Well, Ukrainians are sometimes scared in the Kerch Strait. But that's all. An example, when Spain banned the entry of Russian ships that were going to Syria, clearly showed everything.

As they say - give an ultimatum on clothes.

[bayard]

Quote: ak1978

focus on the main

Well, let's try.

Quote: ak1978

initially the conversation was about project 20380

And their number was called "0" by you. But it is not.
The Northern Shipyard delivered 4 such corvettes - "Guarding", "Smart", "Courageous", "Resistant". "Mercury" is undergoing mooring trials.
The Amur Plant built and handed over 3 corvettes - "Perfect", "Loud", "Aldar Tsedenzhapov", "Sharp" will be handed over in May this year.
Project 20385 - put into operation on December 29, 2020, last year made the transition to the Pacific Fleet.
I think you can add it yourself and it's not "zero" at all, although much less than it could be.
RTOs of the "Buyan" type - 9 built. , 3 more pcs. in completion (two will be handed over to the Navy this year, the last one in the future).
RTOs of the "Karakurt" type - built 3 pcs. , one is being tested , and a whole bunch are waiting for engines .
A total of 12 RTOs in service and 3 - 4 more. will be delivered by the end of this year.
In total, together with large corvettes, 20 new corvettes and 4 to 5 more are in service. handed over this year.
And two modernized Molniya-type RTOs were also completed, which were being prepared for Vietnam - 16 X-35 anti-ship missiles each.
According to the same project, RTOs of this type are being modernized in all fleets.
MPK 1124 serve in the ranks, although they are waiting for their replacement.

Quote: ak1978

2. If we are already talking about RTOs, then they ordered 8 back in 2015. In service so far 3 (three)

An obvious and vile lie. There are 12 of them and by the end of the year there will be at least 15. And a whole bunch of them are waiting for engines, the production of which has not yet been deployed in the proper volumes.

Quote: ak1978

To call it mass construction does not dare.

But serial - will turn. This year they will hand over ... a lot of ships, albeit not very large ones.

Quote: ak1978

The Russian Federation has a good coastal defense fleet, there to catch pirates and smugglers.

With "Onyxes" in the UKKS to catch bandits?
You comfort me. One such kid will easily let a couple of "Burks" sink to the bottom. Or Tikanderog. And with a group of 4 such boats, the AUG can also be disheveled.

Quote: ak1978

stretch out an ultimatum on clothes.

Our ultimatum in other clothes walks. And the Fleet is replenished not only with RTOs, but also with submarines - two pieces a year. And about the same amount per year comes out of repair and modernization. And these submarines have quite ultimatum opportunities.

Quote: ak1978

An example when Spain banned Russian ships from entering

This is a NATO country. We refueled in Algeria instead of Spain, business.
Our ultimatum will drown England with one product.

[bayard]

Quote: ak1978

This is all that two shipyards on this topic were able to give birth to in 21 years.

No, these shipyards were also built for export. And not just corvettes. This year, a frigate and three nuclear-powered submarine cruisers will go into operation. And one or two will come out of the repair.
But can you say the same about China's military shipbuilding?
And as academician Sakharov once said: "Why tear yourself up in a military race, if the USA and England can simply be washed away?".

Quote: ak1978

In a conventional war with NATO, the Russian Federation has no chance.

Do you think we will brandish a penknife?
And if the NATO bloc is opposed by a military bloc in which there are THREE nuclear powers, and the fourth is on the threshold?

Quote: ak1978

At the expense of drowning a cruiser built in 1980? Maybe if will go in solitary

Young man, do you think that one of our RTOs will go out alone to an entire squadron?
A volley of 4 - 8 anti-ship missiles "Onyx" \ "Zircon" is enough for a couple of US cruisers or destroyers. And enough for AUG and 3-4 RTOs. Even with their air defense turned on.

Quote: ak1978

The USSR crumbled, losing primarily the war for the minds of the people.

Then the youth was carried away by Hollywood, Rock-n-roll, a beautiful picture of American cities and an abundance of goods ... But now we ourselves have it all. But the fact that then the United States did not defeat us in a fair fight, but deceived us ... was remembered.
What are you going to "win minds" now?
Homosyatinoy and transgender people? Kissing the boots of blacks by the police? Your clown politicians?
A heartbreaking sight.
Now China is an example of wealth, success and progress for the whole world. With his Communist Party and planned economy + private initiative - everything is as Stalin bequeathed.
And your gentlemen already have nothing to shine with.

Quote: ak1978

RF never learned this lesson.

And if they learned a lesson in the Russian Federation?
That the enemy should be brought down, and not negotiated?
And to bring down at any moment suitable for this, in the least costly way, and not give a chance for "peaceful coexistence".
Now is the right moment.

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

......... In the United States, at the Naval Base of the Pacific Fleet of San Diego, for several days now, the universal landing ship (UDC) Bonhomme Richard LHD-6 of the Wasp type with a displacement of more than 40 thousand tons has been burning (rather, burning out) ... ..

But is this something else? Or, did the POWER of the American fleet burn out ?!

[Serge-667]

And what is the personal opinion of an official that will help the transition from words to deeds?

How than? Gorlopanov will warm up. The coefficient of happiness will raise.

[Serge-667]

Here. And it would be worth being a patriot and pluses would be thrown :))

[figwam]

If the demands are ignored, Russia will defend them by other means, which both Americans and Europeans will feel, and on "its own neck."

I didn't think we could say that.

[Asad]

Let him pronounce these words at the negotiations, officially. Not for a YouTube channel.

[Pete mitchell]

I understand "justified anger" - that's how brave on youtube... Before throwing in, I recommend looking at the mission documents at osce available in the public domain - the statements of Gavrilov and his deputy are dear to read - probably this is how the interests of the Country should be defended in the diplomatic field. Unfortunately Information Support fails to follow him.
And about his statement on youtube: everything that needed to be said has already been said by decision makers, you can also troll “probable partners” the world is like this - information through youtube and tiktok reaches the public faster than from official statements

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: figvam

If the demands are ignored, Russia will defend them by other means, which both Americans and Europeans will feel, and on "its own neck."

I didn't think we could say that.

Our people have already said this before, when the demands were put forward, though in a slightly different form. Now only confirmed the seriousness of our intentions.
The trick is that if the mattresses and "co" were sure that nothing would follow, they would not consider anything at all and hold some kind of meetings and summits, but simply threw these demands into the trash can. Reality shows the opposite.
PS- and yes, yesterday I came across information that the mattresses are petitioning for their written response not to be made public and classified as secret. What is it for?

[tralflot1832]

They are already repeating, in 2018 they generally talked about the loss of statehood from some. And so it is put it mildly, but with metal in his voice.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Seryoga64

Well, it seems they began to move from words to deeds

so far only words

[tralflot1832]

We will hit hard, painfully and without contact.

[tralflot1832]

In the photo there is a warhead of the Iskander operational tactical complex. Where is the nuclear war?

[ak1978]

Why photography then? There is a famous American saying about pulling out a Colt and shooting. I understand that the Russian Federation, apart from the ICBMs with nuclear weapons inherited from the USSR, has absolutely nothing to oppose at least something to the West. Smart in this case will work long and hard, building their own economy, attracting neighbors with a high and comfortable standard of living. he will wave this club, inherited from dad, scaring everyone around and literally forcing the neighbors to run to the sheriff asking for protection.

[Prisoner]

You, my friend, seem to be afraid of competition? In vain. Your propaganda nonsense is the most delusional. You will be at the top.

[neurostimulator]

Everything was clearly stated and warned: we will not tolerate when our citizens are attacked.

May words and deeds not diverge now. And "change for nuts" with a "cash receipt". It is not good for us to drag out the "non-payment" further.

[NDR-791]

Moscow will not tolerate attacks on people's republics where Russian citizens live.

I would like to understand - do endless shelling attacks count?

the question is not about months, the question is not even about weeks.

I appeal to the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Go to the MTD, but I advise the National Battalions to stay so as not to suffer for a long time. The times of Khrushchev are long gone - there will be no amnesty.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: NDR-791

Do endless attacks count as attacks?

Everything will count

[ser-pov]

Quote: NDR-791

Moscow will not tolerate attacks on people's republics where Russian citizens live.

I would like to understand - do endless shelling attacks count?

the question is not about months, the question is not even about weeks.

I appeal to the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Go to the MTD, but I advise the National Battalions to stay so as not to suffer for a long time. The times of Khrushchev are long gone - there will be no amnesty.

I completely agree and support ... NDR-791 I think the national bats will be the first to dump it, it’s not to rob the civilian population and not to shoot remotely at the civilian areas of Donetsk and Lugansk ... here you can get lyuley .. I think God is aiming for a rogue , for each of these scum there are bitches .. I am a peaceful person, but I would hang them all ..

[NDR-791]

Quote: ser-pov

I am a peaceful person, but I would hang them all ..

We have no one to lay asphalt, and mines ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: NDR-791

We have no one to lay asphalt, and mines ...

Yes, and the railway Murmansk - Petropavlovsk in Kamchatka, even one track has not been completed.

[zadorin1974]

Some have already been regretted. They sent the forest to fell. After 50 years, again marches with torches to the beat of a drum. What, the pony runs in circles? Do you want to leave a bunch of problems for your grandchildren again?

[NDR-791]

Quote: zadorin1974

Do you want to leave a bunch of problems for your grandchildren again?

As they say, a good worker burns at work. And there are no problems

[zadorin1974]

Then to the mine until the end of the term, without the right to lift it or chain it to a wheelbarrow and take out chemical waste after copper production. But still, do not repeat the mistakes of our grandfathers. This is not cruelty-rationalism.

[NDR-791]

So I'm talking about the same. I wrote above that Khrushchev's times are over - there will be no amnesty.

[zadorin1974]

There was no one who threw me a little about the asphalt. By the way, I know three offices of road builders, in which migrants are not accepted at all. At the same time, over the past ten years, not a single claim from customers. I myself sometimes cooperate with them (repair of special equipment)

[Roma 1977]

Persuaded: roll them into the asphalt. Live ones are not needed. And then they suddenly give amnesty again, and then our grandchildren will suffer again with their grandchildren.

[neurostimulator]

I would like to understand - do endless shelling attacks count?

For me it definitely counts!
And there are also many who have a muzzle with hands still here on TV, and a popenhagen with hooves has long been "warm" over a hillock - it does not count for them.
It was not necessary at one time to abandon the Soviet Union as a way of life and state structure, definitely not necessary.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Neurostimulator

It was not necessary at one time to abandon the Soviet Union as a way of life and state structure

It was not necessary to refuse, it was necessary to respond in time to changes in the world. But this is not to present to anyone. It was back in the late 40s that the concept had to be changed

[neurostimulator]

We have yet to make a choice, the main thing is that there is still a state with a flag and borders and those who want to build their lives in it among people equal to themselves.

[NDR-791]

I would like to believe, but experience does not give.

[neurostimulator]

It doesn’t give me either, and it will be so until the very end. Only actions change things.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: NDR-791

It was back in the late 40s that the concept had to be changed

It was not the concept that needed to be changed, but traitors like Khrushchev and Gorbachev needed to be brought out into the open and isolated from the people away.

[ada]

The concept was what you need a concept!
There they could still be added to the company.
For sailors

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ada

For sailors

Barquentine. We had Kropotkin. Gorgeous !

[ada]

She is he. Here the Finns would build and build further within the framework of peaceful cooperation, they would show an example to the rest, and would not play with NATO, maybe there would be fewer problems in the world.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ada

Here the Finns would build and build further as part of peaceful cooperation, they would show an example to the rest

In Soviet times, it was like that, what wonderful ships they built, I myself spent two years in Turku and Uusikaupunki at Vartsila Marina and Valmet. And everyone was happy, but the young "demobaby" in Suomi decided to break the Paasikivi-Kekkonen line.

[Prisoner]

Shooting and attacking are two different things.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Captive

Shooting and attacking are two different things.

Who told you this? Artillery attack is quite a tactical technique.

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

National battalions have long been part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[Murmur 55]

I am tightening the rhetoric, we must wait for an answer, NATO and the West started this mess, it is worth noting that immediately after the shameful flight of the United States and "allies" from Afghanistan, they needed a "loud" victory to forget about that disgrace, only now Russia began to play not by their rules .

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Murmur 55

The rhetoric is getting tougher, we must wait for an answer, NATO and the West started this mess

First of all, they tell the whole world and themselves that it was Russia that started the escalation of the conflict, "attacking the Donbass in 2014", "occupying Crimea", "preparing aggression against Ukraine", threatening Poland, Tribaltika and even, sorry Sweden..
Now it turns out that their last Maidan and, in particular, the shooting of some "hundreds" that no one needs, as well as the "seizure of the Capitol" are also us.

Why should we be ashamed further, if we are already guilty of all the evil in the world. There will be war. "Peace enforcement", local, European, global-World - I don't know. But without a war, such brains do not return to their place.

[Ksanatos]

It agree, IMHO contradictions are insoluble in a different way.

[Roma 1977]

If the partners put the brakes on the situation in Donbass so as not to get away from Russia in the event of a large-scale provocation by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then they will definitely declare their victory. "Putin was afraid of the consolidated position of the Western countries and Ukraine and therefore did not attack." And in Ukraine, in general, the state. holiday "Victory Day" on this day will do.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Roma-1977

will surely declare their victory.

The trick is that with total control of the media, they will present any layouts as their achievements, and in ten years they will shoot a movie. You can’t refuse them the ability to give brains to the public, the bastards know how and are not shy

[Diverxnumx]

Objectivity for - they not only improve brainwashing techniques, but are also suitable from the other side - they reduce the level of critical thinking in recipients ... :)

[Pete mitchell]

Quote from Diver0

they not only improve brainwashing techniques, but ... reduce the level of critical thinking in recipients.

These are different facets of the same process, no doubt. The guys are serious about solving this problem and calling them fools is stupid. It is necessary to work here and painstakingly, with an eye to the future.

[Orel]

It would be good then to work on the issue of irrefutable and proper fixing of the facts that someone will act first, and we will only respond.

[Murmur 55]

Orel and for whom is this evidence ??? The collective West will put big and thick on our evidence, the rest of this "kneading" is up to the lantern. So prove don't prove, show don't show. Test tube, the Tonki incident is so offhand.

[210ox]

A priori for them, we are the aggressor. Even if we are late with the answer

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 210ox

A priori for them, we are the aggressor. Even if we are late with the answer

For them, all who and what threatens the Western world and imperialism are aggressors, barbarians, anti-democrats and nonhumans. Because what happened in 1917 in the Russian Empire is the collapse of Western anti-human civilization.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ak1978

cousins ​​Willie and Georgie's twin, Nikolai Romanov? I completely agree!

Well, not exactly like that, but along with Nikolai and Willy, he got a kick, just like a relative of Charles I, Frans Joseph.

[ak1978]

It was a glorious time. The braces cherished for so long shattered in a second to smithereens.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Murmur 55

Orel and for whom is this evidence ???

Yes. Also from whom?
The striped "irrefutably" satellite recorded the downing of the Boeing, only something has not yet been documented.

[ada]

I have never heard of situations (cases) when an optical reconnaissance satellite accidentally ended up in the "right" part of the orbit at the "right" time.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: ada

I have never heard of situations (cases) when an optical reconnaissance satellite accidentally ended up in the "right" part of the orbit at the "right" time.

One of the "non-random accidents" is a satellite that had previously changed its orbit over Chernobyl during the accident.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Orel

It would be good then to work on the issue of irrefutable and proper fixing of the facts of that

8. 08. 08. nothing was recorded, but they gave snot
True, they still dumped everything on us. Yes, and no one will take into account our evidence

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Seryoga64

it's all on us anyway

The other day, Biden again stated that Russia attacked Georgia ... No one remembered the attack by Georgians on Tskhinvali ....

[tihonmarine]

Quote from Uncle Lee

The other day, Biden again said that Russia attacked Georgia ..

I would not be surprised if Biden and all of their Democratic Party declare that in 1941 the USSR attacked defenseless Nazi Germany, and in 1945 they, the Americans, saved it from complete destruction by the eastern hordes.

[210ox]

It is clear that the response of the West will be negative. Let's see what our leadership will do. I think that the deployment of missiles in Chukotka will not end

[Seryoga64]

Quote: 210ox

that the deployment of missiles in Chukotka will not end

Maybe continue beyond the puddle

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Seryoga64

Maybe continue beyond the puddle

"Beyond the puddle", it is so far away, but on the border with "very unfriendly and evil" states, it is necessary to do this, and warn the people of these states what and why is directed at their heads.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: tihonmarine

but on the border with "very unfriendly and evil" states, this must be done,

I meant a puddle, for example, in Cuba, or Veneskel

[vladcub]

"the case will not end", but how to finish: start TMV? There will be no winners in TMV.
In the 70s of the 20th century. SOMEONE from political scientists said: "I don't know how TMV will end, but I know how they will fight after TMV - with stones

[tihonmarine]

Quote: vladcub

"the case will not end", but how to finish: start TMV?

And you have not noticed that the Third World War has been going on for 30 years.

[vladcub]

Actually, they call it a buzzword: "stage"

[tihonmarine]

Quote: vladcub

Actually, they call it a buzzword: "stage"

Yes, how to say, if the bombing of Belgrade and Iraq, the destruction of Afghanistan, Syria, Libya are considered "stage" - and this is already the Third World War, into which the whole world has already been drawn.

[Phil77]

To be a little closer to the original, then these are the words not of some "political scientist", but of some Einstein. Albert.

[vladcub]

Hockey player, take me away

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Albert Einstein

I don't know with what weapons they will fight in World War III, but in World War IV they will fight with sticks and stones

he's not really a political scientist

[vladcub]

And I called him a political scientist. Doesn't he take offense?

[Phil77]

Not anymore. He is not with us.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

We are awaiting a written response. Hope we get it next week

And it should not be undercover, but in the public domain!

[Seryoga64]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

And it should not be undercover, but in the public domain!

Scammers don't allow

[NDR-791]

Does that mean it's not allowed? They only "lowly ask" not to publish.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: NDR-791

They only "lowly ask" not to publish.

Well so be it

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Seryoga64

Scammers don't allow

Only Putin was allowed to read! And no more!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Only Putin was allowed to read! And no more!!

Yes, they don’t keep secrets, they’ll all spill the beans.

[ERsytype]

The US is now negotiating with Qatar to replace Russian gas in the event of an oil and gas embargo.
And stupid Ukraine is used to bring the Russian donkey to the slaughter.
All the same, the west is beautiful, everything is like clockwork.

[mitroha]

Quote: ERsytype

The US is now negotiating with Qatar to replace Russian gas in the event of an oil and gas embargo.
And stupid Ukraine is used to bring the Russian donkey to the slaughter.
All the same, the west is beautiful, everything is like clockwork.

Donkey, I see only one here, and it's not Russia

[NDR-791]

Quote: ERsytype

All the same, the west is beautiful, everything is like clockwork.

That's right!!! These tupindas are calculated 10 moves ahead.

[Astra55]

What other slaughter?
In this situation, everyone except the Kiev regime will win.
Russia will get Ukraine in the long run, but it will survive the sanctions.
Americans, they see $$$ everywhere . Having cut off Russian gas and oil, they are selling their hydrocarbons at exorbitant prices to the herbivorous gay Europeans.
The Chinese on the sly can hold a "referendum" in Taiwan ...

[molyr]

and caravans of camels with gas will be pulled

[Motorist]

Quote: molyr

and caravans of camels with gas will be pulled

[Prisoner]

I would call donkeys those who will rely on Qatari gas. Well, you bots might enjoy it. Fool red happy. Only this gas in the form of LNG will cost a pretty penny and the delivery will be in a fever and the volumes will again be incomparable with the need. Qatar Asia trades its gas with a large gesheft and spits on Europe. All this talk of mattresses in favor of the poor is just empty fuss. Do not rejoice and you will not be disappointed.

[Ural resident]

I will add and clarify that this was not a statement, but the opinion of Gavrilov. Which sounded during the dialogue on one of the YouTube channels. At the same time, Gavrilov emphasized that he speaks only as a private person and expresses his private opinion. He said that he did not know what the Russian leadership would do in response to provocations, but expressed the hope that we would not let our citizens in Donbas be offended!

[Yaro Polk]

European fascists are again gathering together, led by mattress covers

[Dmitry Ivanov_8]

Georgia attacked South Ossetia during the Beijing Olympics. Ukrainians can attack the Donbass - when the Winter Olympics begin in the same Beijing. Coincidence? I do not think. The secondary goal is to try to embroil China and the Russian Federation. That's why they're hysterical there now. They hope to make us feel guilty. At that time, the European Commission helped us, so it did not participate in the training of a fighting hamster (Georgia). But now they are directly trying to drag the EU into this conflict.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_8

They hope to make us feel guilty.

History repeats itself, and not even 08.08. We were once expelled from the League of Nations for the Finnish war, while we ourselves did not hesitate to cut the world. However, this did not help them.
On the stage, they are all the same, with the same number.

[Dmitry Ivanov_8]

History always goes in a spiral. When a generation has already died that managed to mess up, new generations start all over again.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Dmitry Ivanov_8

new generations start all over again.

I've written about this before, but I'll repeat it here. In their politics, the generation that saw the nuclear explosion "live" has ceased to steer. These were not even seen in tests. They just don't know how

[Retvizan 8]

It’s even alarming how the Americans really didn’t stir up a provocation in Ukraine, it’s painfully profitable for them now.
Gets rid of such ballast as Ukraine;
Russia is officially announced to the whole world as an aggressor;
Finally quarrel with us
Europe;
And they can also annoy China by disrupting the holding of the Olympic Games, such as it is impossible under the current conditions, etc.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Retvizan 8

And they can also annoy China by disrupting the holding of the Olympic Games, such as it is impossible under the current conditions, etc.

So they don't officially go there anyway. And the athletes were allowed, but clarified - at their own peril and risk

[vintorez]

It's terrible, it's scary. In the end, there will be concern.

[Vladimir61]

Thanks Russia! In Donbass "the sky has become brighter", but the soul is warmer!

[svp67]

Russia will not stand idle during the provocations of Ukraine and the West in the Donbass, the answer will follow immediately.

Well, thank God, at least there is a specific certainty.

[vladcub]

"but how can they now ..... think and analyze", but we will keep the intrigue.
The unknown is worse than an open threat.
You can react in different ways:
1) Zakharov will say something like: "we express concern" and so on.
2) Peskov will say: V.V. will call and swear.
3) Lavrov will say: if they don’t come to their senses before 10 00 ..
4) VKS inflict a missile and bomb attack on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
And all for garlic: they promised to Respond, but how ... they "forgot" to clarify

[Xnumx vis]

My wife's grandfather, a front-line soldier, a marine, an Odessa homeless child, liked to say to the offender - The counter is winding. And the word was always backed up by deeds... The local barefoot and urkagans were afraid of Uncle Kostya. So, gentlemen, urkagans with "bright faces" and black thoughts .. Time has passed.

[Dikson]

Somehow it sounds like Munchausen .. almost like "at two o'clock - the war with England" ..

[Emergency]

He voiced what everyone already knew and understood. Now the game has gone open. After this statement, lists of specific sanctions should fall down. The last attempt of the "civilized" to stop the unstoppable.

[Majestic Peacock]

I read the comments and am amazed. Russia is the obvious aggressor, people (those who are jingoistic), don't you see that?

Let's put it this way - if Russia wants peace in Ukraine, then why doesn't it state firmly: "in the event of an attack on the Donbass, we will immediately attack Ukraine"?
Does anyone really believe that Ukraine would have decided on any "provocations" in the Donbass with such an obvious and tough position of the Russian Federation? Have you gone crazy, or something, in a patriotic frenzy?

But that doesn't happen. There is blah blah blah about nothing, endless allegations about the impending "provocations" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. All this is most reminiscent of the media publications of obscure countries in the 20th century, read, enlighten. You will be surprised how similar the tone and even the essence of reports about "provocations" by, say, the "Finnish military" will turn out to be with what the state media of the Russian Federation say today.

P.s. For those who claim about the upcoming attack of Ukraine on the Donbass or even the Russian Federation itself, the following question is also dedicated:
Can you name at least one country that in the 20th century would have attacked its neighbor, which has 5 times the army, 10 times the air force, and the ratio of fleets would even be ridiculous to compare?
Call, do not be shy. I will say right away: you will not find a single such country, and there will be no such examples for a very simple reason - because there are simply no fools so stupid and without a chance of suicide.

[mitroha]

Quote: Majestic Peacock

Russia is the obvious aggressor

You don’t even need to write comments, a nickname is enough, you picked it very well
One-on-one

[Emergency]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Even for this.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Majestic Peacock

Russia is the obvious aggressor, people (those who are jingoistic), don't you see that?

You do not see the whole picture, on a global scale there is no problem of Ukraine, but there is the problem of NATO expansion and the construction of military infrastructure and missile defense facilities on the border with Russia. those. there is clear preparation for a bigger war and an attempt to limit the use of nuclear weapons by Russia .... if the West succeeds and it can place missiles at our side and take the European part of Russia under the gun, then a terrible thing can happen when the United States will be able to strike in Russia, and our response will be limited and for the Americans it will be an acceptable damage.

Well, regarding Ukraine, it has no sovereignty, it is a country controlled by the West and its president, together with the government, is completely controlled by external forces .... they will order to attack the LDNR at the time of the Beijing Olympics, he will do it. Therefore, it is stupid to talk about the interests of Ukraine here). There are interests of the West and specifically the United States and countries from the Anglo-Saxon group (Great Britain and its former colonies).

[Gardener91]

Quote: Aleksandr21

There are interests of the West and specifically the United States and countries from the Anglo-Saxon group (Great Britain and its former colonies).

Markets are dying out. The West needs resources, the eastern resources of the Russian Federation.

[Dmitry Ivanov_8]

The incident at Gleinitz in 1939?

[Kronos]

A couple more weeks of "ultimatums" and military assistance to Ukraine will double. Not to mention the second breath of NATO that has opened up. Yes, and methods like an elephant in a china shop cause the opposite effect. Europe is slowly starting to tear off the well-fed ass from the bench. After all, the threat of a well-fed life is still albeit indirect.

[Roma 1977]

At one time, the United States shock "doubled" the power of the South Vietnamese army. So that she fought the Viet Cong instead of them. For some reason it didn't help. They fled at the first crack.

[Kayala]

There are fresher examples, Georgia, Afghanistan...! Everywhere the same thing, the Americans can only fight with a deliberately weak enemy. And then even Iran and North Korea were too tough for them!

[tatarin1972]

I want to believe, I really want to.

[Karabin]

Everything was clearly stated and warned: we will not tolerate when our citizens are attacked. Clearly stated, in all the media clearly sounded

- he said, adding that Russia will not publish "threatening and propagandistic" statements, as the United States does, but will react and respond to specific actions.

The official representative of the People's Militia of the self-proclaimed Lugansk People's Republic, Ivan Filiponenko, said that Ukrainian saboteurs kidnapped an employee of the defense department of the LPR from the line of contact in Donbass.
The official representative of the NM DPR reported on the situation on the line of contact in a day.

Over the past day, one violation of the ceasefire regime was recorded by the enemy.
Over the past week, ten violations of the ceasefire regime by Ukrainian armed formations have been recorded. The enemy fired at the settlements of the Republic, using 120-mm mortars, various types of grenade launchers, heavy machine guns and small arms.+
The areas of eight settlements were subjected to shelling by the enemy: Vedenskoye, Verkhnetoretskoye, Oktyabr, Spartak, Novolaspa, Aleksandrovka, the village of Shakhty 6/7 in Gorlovka and the village of Trudovskaya mine in Donetsk.

Does this fit the definition of "attacking our citizens"? Are kidnappings and shootings considered specific actions? There is no reaction and response to these actions, which means they are not considered. Then what counts?
Regarding statements, ultimatums and red lines. After all, it was in 2014 "let them just try," so what? Have tried it many times. Then Mr. B. arrived from Geneva and Bandera-fascists and the junta disappeared from the lexicon of power and imperious servants somewhere, but "the best choice of the Ukrainian people" appeared and partner P.A. Poroshenko and the Minsk format, to which "there is no alternative." How much during this time they put in the Donbass
Russian citizens and non-citizens? So what has changed in 8 years, except for the strengthening of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which caused the inclusion of the "patriotism" regime in the Lavrov department. And most importantly, after the visit of which Mr. B., the usual regime of "deep concerns" will turn on

[ada]

I think it’s changing, otherwise the graves would have already been leveled there, and representatives of all intelligence agencies were crawling along our border, and roads were being completed and reconstructed in the right direction across the territory of the republics.

[avib]

Russia will not remain idle during the provocations of Ukraine and the West in the Donbass, the answer will follow immediately

Well, now we are waiting for a provocation.

[Roma 1977]

The essence of the answer is not specified. And this is the worst.

[avib]

Of course, I don’t know, but maybe the internal political situation is already such that a small victorious war like 2008 or the Crimean history is again necessary.
So this might be the answer.
Of course, Ukraine is not a rival to Russia in military terms. It may not be a cakewalk, but the result is predictable.
No one has any idea what will happen next.

[Majestic Peacock]

Quote: Aleksandr21

Quote: Majestic Peacock

Russia is the obvious aggressor, people (those who are jingoistic), don't you see that?

Well, about Ukraine

I won’t even answer the two eccentrics (the beginning of this word with a different letter), everything is clear with them - the picture is hopeless, but I’ll answer you.

Quote: Aleksandr21

Well, regarding Ukraine, it has no sovereignty, it is a country controlled by the West and its president, together with the government, is completely controlled by external forces

This is not the first time this story has been repeated. Things of this kind (I'm not kidding, one to one, look at the Soviet newspapers for 1939) are said regularly before acts of aggression.
Here's the thing. It is possible (what is really possible there, it is so) to assume that state Y has a huge influence on the policy of state X. However, there is a huge difference between state X agreeing, under external pressure, to, say, the transfer of concessions for the extraction of certain minerals, and so that this very X announced suicidal war on your neighbor! No country in the world will agree to this, at least not with such a balance of power!
Judge for yourself - how can even Zelensky himself feel safe in the event of a war with the Russian Federation? Who guarantees him himself not be shot down on a plane, not blown up by a high-precision missile during a Rade speech? Nobody!

Quote: Aleksandr21

there is a problem of NATO expansion and the construction of military infrastructure facilities and missile defense elements on the border with Russia

And how will NATO achieve this if we take over Ukraine? Pay attention to the timing - our troops are pulled up to the border with Ukraine in greater numbers than in any other period of the conflict. Russia, both morally and physically, is currently more prepared for war with Ukraine than ever before.
Well, then what is the point from a military point of view to carry out any action against the LDNR now? This is the key (one of) the difference from the situation in Georgia, which came as a surprise to everyone.
Why now? Why not in a month, not in a year, not a year earlier?

Quote: Aleksandr21

on the face of a clear preparation for a greater war and an attempt to limit the use of nuclear weapons - by Russia ....

Look at the sequence of events. It was the Russian Federation that was the first to announce its "ultimatum" (or whatever it is called in the opinion of our Foreign Ministry - it doesn't matter), after which, however, NATO still did not transfer weapons to Ukraine.
The next step is the announcement of the exercises "Allied Resolve" jointly with Belarus.
And after this announcement, NATO expresses a strong protest, and then, when the Russian Federation rejects it, it starts pumping Ukraine with weapons. So who will attack whom and who is escalating the situation?

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Majestic Peacock

It was the Russian Federation that was the first to announce its "ultimatum"

Well, don’t distort it either, the first signs were much earlier, when in Poland and Romania they began to install dual-purpose missile defense systems and supposedly from Iran, isn’t that funny ?? and this was the first ultimatum to us .... I am against the war, I don’t believe our talking heads, but even more so Western ones, I’m almost sure that the whole scenario has already been discussed and agreed behind the scenes, the question of what exactly has been decided and when it will happen, because you you understand that a nuclear war is a world in the stone age at best, don't you?

[p0pulivox]

Quote: Kronos

A couple more weeks of "ultimatums" and military assistance to Ukraine will double. Not to mention the second breath of NATO that has opened up. Yes, and methods like an elephant in a china shop cause the opposite effect. Europe is slowly starting to tear off the well-fed ass from the bench. After all, the threat of a well-fed life is still albeit indirect.

I wrote about the same thing earlier, not everyone likes it ...

[Gardener91]

All provocations, hysteria in the Western media, aggravation of the situation around Ukraine have one nature - to further break ties with the Russian Federation. Let Brzezinski turn in his grave, his case lives in the minds of the insane.

[Serge_SB]

Hello everyone. And I am very surprised by the following publication: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/01/21/ukraine-russia-explain-maps/

[Gardener91]

Everything is true, but the very essence of the conflicts, the roots, so to speak, of Laris Karklis and Ruby Mellen, and they did not see any closer ties, because they did not live in any of the territories described, at least ... that way 50 years. Small-town, superficial analysis mixed with the propaganda information policy of the West, nothing more.

[demo]

Well.
They said they didn't pull their tongues.
And I, and many millions of our fellow citizens, have long been waiting for such a statement since the age of 14.
Let it be so.

[shpon123]

They will not tolerate, yeah, how. In Donbass, Ukrainians abduct people every month, yesterday they took another one. And our rags just to "let gases" into the water.

[Wildcat]

Hmm ...
Americans probably have heads exploding from such messages.

Well, how to adequately translate the expression of our diplomat "The counter is ticking?"

Gavrilov also explained Russia's position on the US security guarantees. According to him, Moscow will not endlessly wait for a response from the US and NATO to its proposals. If the demands are ignored, Russia will defend them by other means that both Americans and Europeans will feel, moreover, on "its own neck"

That's about "feel" "on their neck" - is this how to translate?
And "to protect them by other means" - by what, hedgehog-karezhik, means?

Well, there is MGIMO, there is an Academy, as a last resort for non-personnel courses (like an educational program, only for diplomats).
Even samples give:
"I would like to express some preliminary considerations as to how we imagine the ways of developing the Russian-American dialogue. For us, the United States is the most important foreign policy partner, and we, for our part, are ready to continue to work towards strengthening new cooperation relations between our countries and peoples, and to jointly search for answers to the serious challenges that the XNUMXst century throws at us and the international community as a whole. I agree with you that Russian-American relations should be approached pragmatically, cooperate on an equal footing on a broad eagle of coinciding interests, and find rational solutions to existing disagreements on a mutually acceptable basis."

But no, everything in life is like a joke: "... brings the paper to Gromyko's office. He reads it.
“Well, not bad, young man, not bad. A couple of mistakes need to be corrected: “on chr ..” is written separately, “on chr ..” is written together. Well, write "black .... monkey" with a capital letter - the crown prince after all ... "
https://www.inpearls.ru/

[cniza]

And how, let them now think and analyze in the West and Ukraine.

Let them scratch the place they think ...

[Cossack 471]

Ukraine has a strong trade turnover with the aggressor. We provided their army with gasoline and diesel fuel.

[Al_lexx]

Yes, they know all this. Just reminded. Which, however, for these stubbornly impudent, is never superfluous.

[Or me]

The counter is ticking. Our leaders have already said that the question is not about months, the question is not even about weeks. We are awaiting a written response. Hope we get it next week

We look forward to hearing from the Americans. I hope our relevant authorities will still voice this answer in the media.

[tolmachiev51]

The process has begun - from "expressing concern" they moved on to puzzling "partners". Good, of course, is not enough, but this is not our fault - there is no need to tease the bear. It will scalp in an instant.

[Kaufman]

It seems that we will cut off gas supplies as a result.
Then they sit down at the negotiating table

[Russian guy]

Let someone like it or not, but Russia always comes only for its own, and it does not need someone else's.

[Karabin]

Quote: Russian Guy

, but Russia always comes only for its own,

So it's Russia, not ZAO RF.

[Russian guy]

And what does UA CJSC have to do with it?

[sgr291158]

So you need to talk to them. They might tuck their tails.

[svoit]

Quote: Murmur 55

Orel and for whom is this evidence ??? The collective West will put

We need it, that our General Staff analyzed our actions, learned lessons, it is useful to document any actions

[svoit]

Quote: Majestic Peacock

our troops are pulled up to the border with Ukraine in large numbers

This is not so, the number of Russian troops is approximately equal to the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the east of Ukraine, there is no decisive advantage, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are fully staffed here with experience in combat operations in this area, Russia has experience only in exercises and from Syria, a completely different theater of operations, the troops are not fully staffed, the morale of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is hardly weaker than that of our troops. Approximate equality is observed, and this does not guarantee the rapid achievement of strategic goals in 2-4 weeks, that is, it is possible to solve only operational tasks, this is the maximum