US Marines allowed not to shave with persistent facial irritation

Beginning January 31, US Marines with persistent shaving irritation may not remove their facial hair. The new decision applies to fighters diagnosed with Pseudofolliculitis barbae, also known as razor bumps.

It is a chronic condition that is a common problem for approximately 60% of black men.

according to the American Osteopathic College of Dermatology.

With this diagnosis, after shaving, growing hair, especially curly, penetrates the skin, causing an inflammatory reaction: itching, redness, and the formation of abscesses. The 100% effective treatment is to let the beard grow, the college's website says.

The Marine Corps announced on its website on January 21 that it will stop taking administrative and other disciplinary actions against fighters who avoid shaving due to a specified disease or if they cannot shave for other medical reasons. In this case, it is required to obtain a temporary or permanent permit, but not from the commander, but from a medical worker. It must be issued if the available medicines are not able to solve the problem.

Unlike the ILC, the US Navy refused to take a similar step. In October 2019 on navy demanded impeccable observance of the standards governing the appearance of sailors, including a ban on walking with unshaven faces. As explained in the command, this is necessary for the correct wearing of a gas mask: a beard, as stated, leads to depressurization of the protective equipment.

Comments

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Right. At the same time, let the sponges tint, so that they do not get weathered in the fresh air. And let the little hands be smeared with cream so that they don’t get rough.)))

[Orel]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Right. At the same time, let the sponges tint, so that they do not get weathered in the fresh air. And let the little hands be smeared with cream so that they don’t get rough.)))

Now it will be immediately clear who has skin problems due to shaving, but what about medical secrecy)))

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Orel

Now it will be immediately clear who has skin problems due to shaving, but what about medical secrecy)))

The medical secret is already written on the face.
Medical secrecy will be preserved only for those who are allowed not to shave.
Again zrada, again inequality.

[Murmur 55]

I read on the Internet that a similar kit is issued to US military personnel in areas with a harsh climate.

[Mishek]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Right. At the same time, let the sponges tint, so that they do not get weathered in the fresh air. And let the little hands be smeared with cream so that they don’t get rough.)))

And another place too..Pah damn..

[ser-pov]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Right. At the same time, let the sponges tint, so that they do not get weathered in the fresh air. And let the little hands be smeared with cream so that they don’t get rough.)))

And in intimate areas, they were also allowed not to put their hair on ... It's funny, this is an army or a kindergarten ..

[Krasnodar]

Quote: ser-pov

It's funny, this is the army or kindergarten ..

They, apparently, have only now come to the conclusion that the army is not needed for parades)).

[Escobar]

Considering that since the Second World War, they have not fought anywhere, they know exactly what the army is for.

[Alexey Z]

And in intimate areas, they were also allowed not to put their hair on ... It's funny, this is the army or a kindergarten .. Were you forced to do an intimate hairstyle in the army? Whom did you serve?

[Timon2155]

The problem comes from modern “good” razors: they pre-stretch the hair with their silicone comb, pushing it out as much as possible, and then 5 blades shave it clean at the root, then the hair goes under the skin-type, a very smooth shave is obtained. But here's the problem - under the skin, the hair begins to grow sideways and twists, ingrown hairs, ulcers appear. I got away from this problem by changing the razor - you need it without a silicone comb and with a pair of blades, no more. Yes, not so smoothly, but the hair and the face without ulcers do not grow. Or alternatively, use an electric razor. Sometimes progress just makes life harder.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

And in our army they said something else about shaving with a towel. I myself, however, did not understand what kind of crap this is! M.b. these 60% of blacks will try?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Interesting ... I have the opposite but from an electric razor. Switched to a simple machine.

[dedusik]

Since 1965, only a simple twisted machine, in the army, without irritation, even with Neva blades, they shaved

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

sponges let tint

- John, why are you painting your lips?
-It's hygienic, from weathering...
-Why is it purple?
-So the color of the nails!

[Cat]

Hm ... In our time, those who did not want to shave carefully were shaved with a wet towel. Very effective depilation method

[neurostimulator]

And it’s also possible to drive the fungus under the skin, syphilis with gonorrhea, and get blood poisoning - there’s no better way to find it. The brain is very close to the skin of the face, and the doctors in the army who can heal are always very, very far ... the rest is a matter of time, about a week ... of lack of sleep and malnutrition.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Gato

Hm ... In our time, those who did not want to shave carefully were shaved with a wet towel. Very effective depilation method

It is clear that the conscripts are boys of 18 years old and no one has canceled the problems with the "hatyavchiks". From my own experience, not much, due to the absence, but from the experience of my colleagues, I realized that the main remedy in the fight against "hatyavchiks" and other irritations is to wash your face with exclusively cold water (due to the complete absence of hot water in the washbasin, it is not provided) and "Egg" (one and a half minutes not up to the "Household 72%") soap.

And I wonder if the American Marines in the barracks have hot water in the washbasin and do they give them "Egg" soap? For a lot of money let them buy this soap from us - they say they can even wash away sins.

[ser-pov]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Quote: Gato

Hm ... In our time, those who did not want to shave carefully were shaved with a wet towel. Very effective depilation method

It is clear that the conscripts are boys of 18 years old and no one has canceled the problems with the "hatyavchiks". From my own experience, not much, due to the absence, but from the experience of my colleagues, I realized that the main remedy in the fight against "hatyavchiks" and other irritations is to wash your face with exclusively cold water (due to the complete absence of hot water in the washbasin, it is not provided) and "Egg" (one and a half minutes not up to the "Household 72%") soap.

And I wonder if the American Marines in the barracks have hot water in the washbasin and do they give them "Egg" soap? For a lot of money let them buy this soap from us - they say they can even wash away sins.

Well, our approach in the army has also changed now, more advanced. Thank God we have a real army ....

[Krasnodar]

Quote: ser-pov

The main thing is that the army should be an army, and when supplies of diapers go to the army, this is a disaster. Thank God we have a real army ....

The main thing in the army is to train a former civilian to perform his military duties as efficiently as possible under the stress of conducting intense hostilities. And in diapers, they either wash their ass with laundry soap or do not wash at all - the tenth thing)).

[tralflot1832]

Yes, insanity grew stronger, do not save on machine tools and razors. It was enough for me once to put a gas mask on my beard, when eliminating an ammonia breakthrough in the refrigerator department, there were such dances with tambourines.

[neurostimulator]

Here, at least someone here understands what we are talking about.

[NDR-791]

And there, not only in a gas mask, in a diving mask it’s even more fun with a beard and forelock

[Obliterator]

Quote: NDR-791

And there, not only in a gas mask, in a diving mask it’s even more fun with a beard and forelock

There was a documentary film about the TsSN FSB. So, in the part of the report about combat swimmers from control "B", these very swimmers were shown for a moment without masks and visual filters. About half of the employees had such good beards on their faces. The American analogue of our combat swimmers is navy seal, in the photo from combat exits they very often turn out to be the owners of very impressive facial hair. So now I’m thinking, is it true that the beard interferes with work under water ...

[NDR-791]

Quote: Obliterator

So I’m thinking now, is it true that the beard interferes with work under water ...

The mustache definitely interferes and the hair is long. Another thing is that if serious (not diving) equipment, then there is not a mask, but a whole helmet. Nothing interferes there.

[YOUR]

We are talking about the fact that the Americans take everyone into their armed forces, including those with chronic diseases.
I can’t imagine that such dispossessed people served in our marines.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Neurostimulator

Here, at least someone here understands what we are talking about.

A long beard is not allowed to grow - stubble + centimeter maximum.

[tralflot1832]

You put on and took off a gas mask with a beard of at least one centimeter, it’s still a pleasure.

[Krasnodar]

Greetings!
Never - I ran in a gas mask, well, in figs with or without bristles

[neurostimulator]

The use of gas masks today in the troops is very conditional. I believe that the vast majority of even those people who use a gas mask or even an OZK (combined arms protective kit), even periodically, do not even have a 30 percent idea of ​​​​what it is really needed for and how dangerous in this case facial and neck hair even unshaven, I generally keep quiet about one centimeter.
The industrial use of respiratory and skin protection means develops only handling skills, but not a full-fledged idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXb"full functionality" and, most importantly, the need to avoid any exceptions in this case.
Back in the university, in order to understand what OZK is, we were regularly poisoned with sarin indoors, like cockroaches with dichlorvos. ... I guarantee you, in this case, if you put on a gas mask at least once, it’s not tight enough and all your discomfort from shaving irritation will seem so ridiculous and childish to you that you can’t even put it into words. I will only say one thing, the one who made a mistake, then walked for a week with swollen red bread, bulging glass eyes ... and a deuce for a practical lesson ... for all other lectures, etc. in all other subjects)) And it was not even a combat concentration, it was much lower than that which was intended only for temporarily incapacitating the enemy (but not for destruction) ... Well, then, it’s worth at least one of you to see, not even alive, sternite or lachrymator death from improperly dressed OZK , you will shave everything for yourself - from the top of the pumpkin to the anus ... for the rest of your life. And never again, under any circumstances, will you be tormented by the question of how long the beard of a military man in a gas mask should be today.
Sarin and zaman are ancient primitive agents. If you still don’t understand what I’m talking about here, then read what VX and BOV derivatives are. It is also ancient, so you can google it. There is also the issue of protection against bacteriological weapons, also directly related to the beard under a gas mask, and it is even more terrible. There, if you messed up, then in the end you will glue the flippers yourself and you will certainly take your friends with you, and to put it mildly. But this is a very broad topic for one comment.

[Alexey Z]

Have you been poisoned with sarin? How do you write here?

[neurostimulator]

I'm already retired...read my comment again, which is the previous one.

[Krasnodar]

Fearfully. In a gas mask and a chemical protection suit, I passed the exam at the military felder course. I ran a circle of 400 meters, then installed the system in the vein of a comrade on the course. I don’t know why the centimeter bristles would interfere there, I remember the discomfort from the sweating eye sockets of the gas mask, through which it is also difficult to see the difficulty in finding a vein in black thick gloves.

[neurostimulator]

That's why I wrote above

The use of gas masks today in the troops is very conditional. ...

It was necessary to write ".. even in the troops ..". .. You ran from point A to point B, wearing an OZK, and realized that it was uncomfortable, that it was very slushy and stuffy in it, and working with something smaller than a construction sledgehammer was completely "impossible", and in general, It's better to die young than to live like this.
Everything is logical, my first experience with OZK was very similar to yours. True, I was not a paramedic, so under and above the OZK there were another fifty kilograms of combat equipment: an assault rifle, horns, four RGDs, a dry / ration for a week and a bowler hat with a spoon, a supply of water in flasks, zinc with cartridges 7.62 * 39, special first-aid kits ( for action in the zone of application of WMD), an infantry shovel, a bayonet, a knife, a survival knife, and much more according to my position in the platoon, which is not worth writing about here. But that's not all. For the first forced march through the "infected" area, of course, no one gave out a set of anti-personnel mines, TNT bombs with detonators, smoke bombs, lighting rockets, communications equipment and batteries for them, etc., ... so they the weight was replaced by four dumbbells and a six-pound barbell pancake, carefully folded into my thing / bag by the platoon commander. Usually, for additional "weighting", in this case, small sandbags were used, but I got sports equipment, which I had to hand over to the foreman of the landing company upon arrival ... at point B.
If we further abbreviate the description of everything that we experienced along the way "from point A" to ... a small branch of hell on earth, aka point B, then we can say with confidence that you will not remain who you were before. succeed.
We moved all night and most of the day, there were only two stops - at 3.00 Moscow time and in the morning, before we were intercepted by fifth-year students. They had their own combat training task - to find and intercept the "enemy" DRG (sabotage reconnaissance group), i.e. us ... and torture her on the tactical field "to death")). But, everything is in order.
So, we walked all night, most of the time on the run, and in the morning we left the "contamination zone", then the command came "stop the company, remove the OZK." The one who fell to the ground at that moment, breaking the formation, was declared a "minus score" to the final grade, "not really, of course, .. but we didn't know that). My friend on the right threw off his cloak on the ground and took off the OZK -boot - water poured out of it, but it was not water, it was sweat.I took out a bowler hat and poured my boots into it - it overflowed, fell on its side and spilled, I had never seen anything like this before and never saw it later - a whole bowler hat of concentrated sweat. You can imagine what our uniform and ourselves looked like - we looked as if we were driven from a running start in full gear into a Finnish bath .. and they forgot there). side of the training ground, where we were intercepted by the fifth-year students. They had a double task, to pass their test and accompany us further, because the most interesting thing was just beginning. motorized riflemen oh company on the defensive, on the offensive and on the march. So they began to teach us, moreover, almost without a break for most of the rest of the day. All morning until lunch, in full gear, we performed the commands “flash right / left, behind / in front”, running around the radius from an imaginary explosion at the speed of Olympic sprinters. Because, those who were at least a little behind were immediately caught up with the fifth-year students running after them, knocked down with butts in the back and yelled at the top of their lungs: "Private, you were mortally wounded !!!!..."). Everything was serious - butts or feet. And if the "mortally wounded" began to show dissatisfaction and try to get up ahead of time, then he received the final "killing" blow with the butt on his helmet and "... minus two points to the final grade !!! ..." from the platoon commander ... in the form the roar of an angry dinosaur, with a proprietary additive "... debill" eprst "...)). Do not be mistaken and read "eprst" correctly)).
In general, when we reached the obstacle course by 12.00, we were completely sure that upon returning to the PPD we would get together and beat all the fifth-year students with steel stools to death right in their canteen).
Then there was the usual combined-arms obstacle course, it is usually shown on TV, there was nothing particularly remarkable there, with the exception of a tank run-in. This is when he drives over you in a single trench, and you need to throw an anti-tank grenade after him - the first time is very scary and uncomfortable, this is when the earth shakes and shrinks from all sides, and it’s no longer possible to get out - a tank is above you. the grenade also needs to be thrown accurately, so it is better to immediately turn off the jitters at this moment, otherwise "minus a point to the final grade."
And now, when we had already begun to think that all the worst was over, ... suddenly, from nowhere, right in the middle of the dirt and smoke from a clean, clean, virgin green UAZ, in a clean, clean tunic, in a gilded cap and in his bestial black boots, to which the dirt did not seem to stick at all, suddenly the head of the "Department of Tactics" himself appears)). I don’t indicate the title and last name, I’m still afraid of him, wherever he is now).
We already shuddered, ... suddenly, out of nowhere - you can’t say more precisely, because no one saw how he drove up to the very thick of things. There was such a stupid silence, in which a new introductory sounded very clearly and distinctly, and most importantly, calmly and balanced: "The enemy used WMD, chemical alarm, ready to march in 10 minutes." ... So she came, my death, I thought then)).
We were again dressed in OZK and driven across the entire tactical field to a very unusual dugout, which had a blank iron door without a lock, and there were no firing sectors (loopholes).
After the tactical field, to say that we were dirty and tired is to say nothing, because mud and sand were everywhere: in boots, in pants and pockets, under a tunic, in hair, in ears, in shorts and even further). The whole body itched and ached, the uniform was saturated with sweat to the last thread and disgustingly stank, mainly of burning from smoke bombs and river mud, after crossing the river, the shoes were wet, water squelched in it, but no one let it wag. Instead, we were dressed over all this in the OZK and were driven at a run through the entire tactical field.
And here we are, in complete confusion - we thought that they would again drive us through the forest for half a day, by that time everyone had long forgotten about eating and everything else. I remember that in the end, I didn’t eat the stew from the can to the end. And then the company commander commands: "First platoon - get out of order. Come into the column one by one into the dugout ...". We go in, our platoon commander comes in behind us, also in the OZK, the door closes and the show begins: "Take off the OZK platoon, put on the OZK, take off .., put on, ... take off, ... put on, take off, put on, stop in place and activates the sarin squib. Of course, it was training, not combat, but contact with its contents after activation in a closed room without OZK for more than 5 minutes leads to irreversible damage to the respiratory system and disability of the 3rd group. Then we stand for 15 minutes, on command we go outside and remove the OZK ... And then for the first time in my life I saw what a defeat with a chemical weapon is, or rather how it begins.
The fact is that two cadets from my platoon had your problem with stubble, therefore, they regularly shaved badly, but it was not very noticeable .. for the time being, because they, like me, were fair-haired.
But this time we were out of the PAP with running water and soap. Naturally, none of them began to put themselves in order after the night march, their noses were covered with abundant bristles, into which dirt later accumulated and a gas mask was put on all this later - very imperfect, as it turned out in the end.
Then everything was very simple - we removed the OZK, but before we had time to turn our raincoats on, it became clear that something was wrong. When I realized that there was a fuss behind me on the left and turned around, I saw the fifth-year students and the platoon leader - they were providing first aid to those two, just like you then. For this, first-aid kits with antidotes, which were prudently given to all of us during the preparation for the march / throw, were very useful - they, unlike the training squib, were real.
So, then one cadet burst into tears, grabbed his eyes with his hands and fell to the ground. In vain attempts to find balance, he rolled on the ground and tried to gouge out his eyes, and in the end he began to yell, but stopped soon enough - they managed to help him. The second sat down and began to choke, he had a runny nose and congestion in his nose, and from the contents of the sarin checker his upper respiratory tract began to overlap, he was brought back to normal already at the first-aid post, and was taken there in an ambulance armored personnel carrier, which was always on duty at this dugout during the surrender RKhBZ standard. The third cadet was poisoned a little later, he was from another platoon and he had a very small and elongated head, he was given a size zero gas mask, but he did not sit tight that time either. After the dugout, it was finally over. A retreat from the experience is a separate story ...
If you still doubt whether a beard under a gas mask is needed, then think about this: a couple of years later, in the same dugout, under the same conditions, we passed the RB for elimination. I will only say one thing - a direct blow with a butt in the face (directly on a bakelite cartridge) leads to the fact that the anti-vapor gas rotates 90 degrees on the head if it is not sitting tightly. In other words, in a combat situation, you will be a guaranteed corpse for any outcome of the battle only because you didn’t shave well before that.

[neurostimulator]

I apologize for the spelling, I was often distracted.

[Krasnodar]

I had a military paramedic's layout - M-16 long, magazines, flasks, a stretcher, infusions, etc. - a couple of tens of kilos))
As for your military department - was it the Faculty of Special Operations Forces, the Department of the Third World War? ))

[neurostimulator]

No, an ordinary military university of the Soviet era. Soviet-Russian, to be more precise ... although the time was already rather vague, in the end it was completely ... when it became clear that now we would have a president in our country, I was shocked ... like many others, we even tried to make fun at first, but quickly stopped (then it was called - to joke).
For me, my education is very valuable, first of all, not by the "training" program)), but by those who taught it. Before entering the university, like everyone else, I was a victim of propaganda, so I didn’t go through anything except the Great Patriotic War at school in history. And then casually - a couple of dates, patriotic pathos and, hanging in the air, statements that we defeated everyone - and, .. the war is over. This is how history was taught at school before - instead of knowledge, propaganda ... therefore, no one really knew anything. Maybe that's why the union collapsed in the end ... therefore, including ...
Everything changed when I got to the university, let's call it that. At that time, most of the teachers there were still quite recently acting combat officers. Our company commander, as it turned out later, was a veteran of four wars ... that were after the Great Patriotic War - it's hard to believe, right? So I did not believe until I saw all his orders and medals at the graduation. The rest of the officers, especially the teachers, were even "worse", the number of wars did not increase there (however, there were a few exceptions), but the level of qualification in the subject being taught was such that it sometimes became scary, although the learning process seemed to be in line with this did not have in the first place.
One of these teachers was our military historian, he is also a teacher of tactics, therefore, after graduating from the university, we had a detailed idea of ​​​​the entire system of organized violence on the entire planet, from the first examples far in the past to a detailed analysis of what modern armies are like the world today. Such an approach once and for all changed everything that I knew before and, in general, the very way of understanding the question "What has always been, is now and will be in the future" has become completely different, because I received many points of support that I did not have before and which the vast majority of people do not have to this day.
It was so because we were not being prepared for getting a grade in the certificate, but for further active actions, where, in most cases, as all my and not only my life experience showed, we could rely only on ourselves. Therefore, the moral and ethical basis began its formation immediately, from the first year. Here is the answer to your question "what kind of faculty and what kind of department" ... on the example of only one subject, the name of which can be voiced here. For reference - I also studied higher mathematics, technical subjects were the main ones, because I am a techie by profession, but .. I was already preparing for the entrance exams in the same mathematics in the forest ... under my favorite Christmas tree next to the tent city, in which we had been training for more than a month by that time - it was under green fir trees with low branches that mosquitoes were the least ... and it smelled of resin)).
Well, as for your "jokes" about the MTR ... do you even know that very special groups of cadets (to put it in general terms) are formed in most military universities everywhere, i.e. worldwide ? A good example is our Ryazan Institute of the Airborne Forces. I will not say for today, I will say for the time when this institute (then the school) was hosted by Major General Shcherbak V.V. at Colonel-General Slyusar A.S. .. At that time, already in the first year, it was possible to get into the recruitment group for the French legion. Do you know anything about the French legion? about Angola, about Africa in general? ... I am sure that nothing more than the concept of "military presence" came across to your eyes, otherwise you would not have started joking so vulgarly about our MTR, don't blame me ...
So - the French legion ... the contract was concluded in the second year, the conditions can be googled today .. I think so, to be honest, I have not tried it. In addition to the "legion" there were a number of very promising opportunities, and everywhere there was either money or a career. And this is just one example, one of many.
I, my platoon and my university, against the background of all this diversity, looked quite ordinary. Yes, we had an emphasis on "physical education", which was considered healthy only by our company commander. But this was a necessary condition, otherwise we would not have been able to achieve the goals for which we were prepared. Everything is as usual, I assure you, even the form was the same ... and a debt to the Motherland, a big, big debt.
And I still hate the M16 - an extremely useless device, in most countries of the world. But, those who wanted to die a "hero", like in the movies, looked "best" with the M16. However, we were taught quite differently...
Of course, I understand that you also joked about the M16. In the end, you were joking, but I had to answer quite seriously.

[Krasnodar]

And, well, if the military department of a military university is another matter!
Veteran of 4 wars after WWII:
Korea, Vietnam, Middle East, Afghanistan? How old was he?
I know about the French legion, about Angola - a little, there is Luanda, UNITA and Lev Levaev with Africa-Israel and an offer to work on the protection of diamond mining for $ 5-6K a month at the beginning of the XNUMXs))
And why didn’t you like the M-16? An accurate rifle, you just need to take care of it properly, and make sure that it doesn’t get clogged with dirt, otherwise there will be a lot of misfires - I wasn’t joking, but what didn’t you like about her? ))

[neurostimulator]

Oh, you ... I’ll say one thing - it’s good to be unbeaten, but not scared. He was like that himself ... a long time ago.
M-16 is a "good" rifle, I even wrote what it is best suited for, while summarizing the result of many years of its use ... almost all over the world.
You know, we need to tie up with this correspondence, I just discovered that "a story in a comment" is a reason to complain to the portal administration. So let's get rolling already.
And about the "military department", I hope you misunderstood something, it's better to re-read my last "story in the commentary" in this section.
This is my last message.

[Krasnodar]

There are enough on the site of veterans of the tank breakthrough at the Battle of Kulikovo, especially helicopter pilots)).

[Captain45]

Quote: Neurostimulator

We are still at the university to understand what OZK is, regularly poisoned with sarin indoors, like cockroaches with dichlorvos. ..

I'm wildly sorry, but didn't you experience the "newbie"? I don’t know what kind of university you had, but everywhere and always, to check the tightness of a gas mask, CHLORPICRIN is used as an agent (poisonous substance), a toxic substance that irritates the skin, causing asphyxiation. And judging by the reaction you describe

Quote: Neurostimulator

who made a mistake, then walked for a week with swollen red bread, bulging glassy eyes.

that's exactly it.
And sarin and its analogues - tabun, zaman were synthesized as agents back in Nazi Germany and are nerve agent agents. I'm afraid to make a mistake, but sarin concentrations of 0,001 g/m100 enough to kill about XNUMX people to death. After a couple of such classes in your university, there would simply be no students left, and the leadership would be in jail for many years for mass murder. Do not read Wikipedia at night, it is not always right

[neurostimulator]

It's good that you wrote

I'm afraid to make a mistake ...

- this is a very good skill, judging by the boldness of your other comments.
You are reasonable and consistent enough, but... this time you were wrong.
At the beginning I wrote

The use of gas masks today in the troops is very conditional. ...

Also I wrote

... the vast majority of even those people ...

In order not to write a lot, I will say briefly - you were not observant enough, your fear of making a mistake did not work.
Chloropicrin checks not the OZK as a whole, but the correctness of putting on a gas mask ... in universities where RHBZ are held only in the first year. For example, in the Kolomna Artillery School, this was the case in many other military universities. The most difficult thing that they ended up going through at the RKhBZ was the DDD measures (degassing, decontamination, disinfection) using the DK-4 car kit. There, in Wikipedia, of course it is written that it performs a complete cleaning ... but it is not)). This is also written on the kit itself ... but still - it's not so)).
If it's not difficult for you, then read my second "short story" a few "floors" above, I had not yet had time to post it when you already posted your "review" under my first comment.
If you take up calculations again, then I do not advise. Of course, it is written there that the time was Moscow ... but this is not so)) We were well taught .. not to say "superfluous" as well.
I'm already wildly sorry for giving away so much here. It was a nostalgic moment, this was my youth and the desire to pay attention to the obvious at the present time, namely, the use of WMD, this is an inevitable stage in the development of modern warfare today. Inevitable because he's next in line.
In general, there was a lot of nostalgia and a little cognac .. with a slightly sad result.

[Krasnodar]

Thank God I served in the Israeli border guards and in the IDF - heaven had mercy and did not let me go through all the hell of the Soviet Military Corps of the University!

[El Chuvachino]

It's not about the quality of razors, I don't have the same garbage as described, but also after shaving, constant inflammation on my face. Razors and machines tried different and expensive and for the most sensitive skin. The treatment doesn’t help either, it’s easier not to shave at all, so I use a trimmer, otherwise you walk all the time like a teenager

[paul3390]

Tactical beard is +1000 to ferocity and courage!

My muzzle is also somehow not disposed to shaving, therefore, I have been with a beard for 30 years ..

[neurostimulator]

))))))))))))))) ......

[El Chuvachino]

Here he is an understanding man!

[paul3390]

It's just boring to wear a beard..

[Region-25.rus]

so I use a trimmer otherwise you walk all the time like a teenager

although I have never had (practically) irritations, I have been using a trimmer for four years. I got a neat beard, I trim it once a week and clean the rest with a trimmer. And okay! Even if you have to (God forbid) put on a gas mask, it absolutely does not hurt. And .. I don’t understand the enthusiasm of the “most respectable public” about - “they were allowed not to shave, which means the Americans are 100% wimps and clumsy.” Hatching has never been good.

[tralflot1832]

I have something similar, we are growing with the progress of the Gillette company and the price. But once I felt comfortable with Gillette Atra +. Or they know something. grief, you run from ammonia, you also run with freonm, but only after it. But these are two big differences. They say Gillette offered $100500 to the most notorious beards from ZZ TOP, they never shaved with their products. Probably also irritation after shaving.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Countryman, hello! Personally, from my experience of shaving with a machine: it is best to shave with a cream,, Nivea, What I have not tried: both creams and gels are different. Simple ,, vest ,,, shaving brush and cream,, nivea,, Shaves and glides and softens the face - excellent! Yes, the irritation is gone. Somehow, in the Pyatina region, I bought an expensive Japanese shaving cream. I shaved a couple of times and regretted that I spent the money .. ( ,, nivea ,, the golden mean. And the wallet does not ache qualitatively.

[tralflot1832]

Thanks for the advice! I'll use it the other day, otherwise I let go of my beard again.

[Emergency]

These that neither will figure out with helmet-masks. One company will make money on the supply of new masks, the other on the supply of products and medicines for facial skin irritation. With their defense budget, they can afford it. Only with such an attitude, they will spoil their soldiers in the end, that if they cut their fingers, they will call an ambulance helicopter.

[spirit]

I even know the soundtrack, which will become the new motto for the ILC

[neurostimulator]

This is true, and before Peter the 1st and after, only village fools were shaved in the village) ... until recent times ((

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: tralflot1832

Yes, insanity grew stronger, do not save on machine tools and razors. It was enough for me once to put a gas mask on my beard, when eliminating an ammonia breakthrough in the refrigerator department, there were such dances with tambourines.

It looks like it’s not enough for striped people who want to go to the Marines if they can’t cull for health reasons.

[ser-pov]

Quote: tralflot1832

Yes, insanity grew stronger, do not save on machine tools and razors. It was enough for me once to put a gas mask on my beard, when eliminating an ammonia breakthrough in the refrigerator department, there were such dances with tambourines.

Then the bearded man did not go?

[neurostimulator]

this is how they will look - runaway boys and their dads, unwashed, unshaven, lousy lousy.

[Thrifty]

Then let the vegetation on the face be "shaved" with a blow lamp

[Murmur 55]

Lean is barbaric the US military should DEMAND the inclusion of the services of cosmetologists and stylists in the list of MANDATORY services, the more pampered they become, the better for us.

[Thrifty]

Murmur55 - then, as an option, pluck the face from under the beard with fireplace tongs

[Murmur 55]

Lean dry "waffle" is much more merciful than tongs

[neurostimulator]

Tochnyak))) ...

[Region-25.rus]

Then let the vegetation on the face be "shaved" with a blow lamp

what? Trimmers no longer for sale? I haven't shaved in the last four years. Stupidly with a trimmer without a nozzle, I remove excess from the muzzle of the face and on the head. Tired of frankly scraping the face. Or does permission not to shave necessarily imply a waist-length beard? Those.. "or clean-shaven or a beard with seed husks in it and a bunch of living creatures"? What other options don't come to mind? Of course, I would not be surprised if they now classify me as "foreign agents and not patriots of my country." Now listen to yourself (or rather read) and think .....

[tralflot1832]

They shave with a towel and cut their hair under a blowtorch.

[Murmur 55]

Well, what can I say, continue in the same spirit, "brave" Americans, let your army turn into what it turns into, the more tolerant and freedom-loving, the more exceptions, indulgences and other nonsense you have, the weaker you become, keep it up and don't stop on what has been achieved.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Murmur 55

Well, what can I say, keep up the good work "brave" Americans, let your army turn into what it turns into

The British have already reached the edge,

now it's america's turn

[Castro Ruiz]

Here is a Sikh. They may wear a beard.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: CastroRuiz

Here is a Sikh. They may wear a beard.

There, in general, it says so below, in small print.
Only here in the Company of the Guard of Honor I have not seen a single bearded one in a turban. At the Mausoleum or at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier - in a turban and a beard? Rave...

[Castro Ruiz]

There are no national units. And the United Kingdom has.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: CastroRuiz

There are no national units. And the United Kingdom has.

The National Sikh Regiment in the Royal Guard? Brits will be surprised...

The Royal Guard of Great Britain consists of five regiments of guards: the Grenadier, Coldstream, Scottish, Irish, Welsh and London Regiments of the Territorial Army

[Castro Ruiz]

And who spoke about the regiment?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: CastroRuiz

Here is a Sikh. They may wear a beard.

And they are good fighters.

[neurostimulator]

Yes, they can ... in the circus arena, for example, when they perform like this.

[neurostimulator]

)) At the first moment, I generally thought that these were two comedians .. and at the second I thought that it was - two comedians))
I don’t even know why you got so many minuses - a great shot! ))

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Neurostimulator

)) At the first moment, I generally thought that these were two comedians .. and at the second I thought that it was - two comedians))
I don’t even know why you got so many minuses - a great shot! ))

When I saw this photo, I also thought it was something like "Mr. Bean". And somewhere in six months I saw a story with a video about it in the news on TV. And not like here, in everyday life, but in the "parade", all things ...

And with "sleepers" ...
Personal "minus"-skakuasy. It is possible to judge their location directly by time. I live on the Middle Volga, 3-4 hours after the comment (time difference, they still sleep in the morning while I write) carefully, regardless of the text, they shit under each comment. In the profile, which is prohibited by the Rules.
Plus, local liberals - "do not dare to scold the West - everything is bad with us, everything is nishtyak there!"
Yes, figs with them, let them flatter their pride ... Right hand.

[neurostimulator]

))) I completely forgot about Mr. Bean - thanks for reminding me))) About the rest - yes, we are with them in different countries, we have different propaganda, but ... the concept of idiocy ... after all, they are very similar, not is it true? )). And that's how you can ignore it without being embarrassed by everyone else and then counting on respect - an open question.

[Obliterator]

Let's heartily wish the brotherly American and English peoples - more equality, more diversity and more gender.

[neurostimulator]

I wish with all my heart)) I push with my feet what I wished and I am wildly glad that the process has begun))

[Alien From]

Yes, comrades, here are the hardships of service .......

[rusich]

All enemies will scatter from such marines. When they land on the shore, everyone is in pink and with unshaven faces. Tremble the enemy

[Murmur 55]

Rusich agrees, plus normal men will fight with SUCH to the last, they will simply be "afraid" to be captured by such

[tralflot1832]

So they will still whip a flower in the face of the enemy, with the words: Get nasty! Nasty! And what to do with these?

[neurostimulator]

And what to do with these?

There is a long-known method - do not let a cannon shot in).

[Emergency]

We shot irritation after shaving with "Shiprom" or "Russian Forest". True, only if they did not go out into nature. Although they didn't shave much.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

My grandfather used the "Russian forest" He washed himself with it! The stench was in the apartment, utter !!)) Until now, from childhood, I remember this smell.))

[Emergency]

"Every man to his own taste". Yes, and we did not wash ourselves with cologne. And the smell was good for my taste. There was also a citrus cologne. But they had a cylindrical bottle. Not comfortable.

[Dikson]

I’ll say more - in the tropics it’s also recommended to smear lips with lipstick and cheeks with a forehead, when working in the ocean - otherwise you’ll burn to hell to meat .. And in the Arctic, by the way, lips, like dumplings, can also burst from weathering .. And There is nothing funny in this .. But here you have to joke about stockings and women's lipstick, right? Is this the Petrosyan website?

[Castro Ruiz]

As for me, I would forbid sailors to shave. They should have beards like ZZ Top. :)

[Anton S]

When there is an opportunity to shave and it is necessary (on the territory of the unit), shave. When not needed, don't shave. What is the problem? We, when we went to the jungle for a couple of weeks, had an order "not to shave", in the winter in the mountains, the same thing. And all these "hee hee ha ha" about non-gentle non-Russians are rather frivolous.

[Timur_3]

You also write what they wipe themselves in the toilet with.

[Krasnodar]

In Israel, this was already in the second half of the 90s.

[The Siberian barber]

Depilation of the muzzle will solve problems))

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Fuck .... () I imagine it .... !!! ()

[neurostimulator]

Here, at last, is the correct answer.

[Private SA]

Quote: paul3390

It's just boring to wear a beard..

In the Soviet Army, mustaches were allowed to be worn only by those who had them in a photograph in
military ticket. From the statement of our unit commander:
"I'm going through the checkpoint. And there he stands with a mustache. I ordered to shave off his mustache. He shaved off his mustache ...
And the rotten psychology remained ... "

[Reserve buildbat]

So what? They have long been allowed not to fight with persistent cowardice.

[sgr291158]

And you should be allowed to wear diapers. And then they will get into a friend in the sea.