The head of the DPR: Kiev continues to pull forces to the line of contact

Ukraine has concentrated significant forces in the Donbas. Despite Kiev's statements about the absence of plans to attack the republics, military equipment continues to be drawn to the line of contact. This was told by the head of the DPR Denis Pushilin.

According to Pushilin, the grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass has reached 120 people. This is the number of military deployed in the area of ​​the line of contact and it has not changed over the past three months, but it does not include additional military units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, illegal armed groups of nationalists and foreign mercenaries. DPR intelligence has information about the presence of foreign PMCs in the Donbass, but there is no XNUMX% confirmation of this, work is underway to confirm.

It is noted that Kiev accuses Donetsk and Lugansk of allegedly preparing an attack on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but at the same time continues to pull heavy armored vehicles and artillery systems, including MLRS, to the contact line area. In Donetsk itself, they are sure that war is inevitable, Ukraine will start hostilities in any case, since Kiev does not intend to fulfill the Minsk agreements, but they want to return the territories.

It is not ruled out that Kiev, encouraged by the military aid coming from the West, will decide to escalate the military conflict and carry out some kind of provocation in order to accuse the republics and Russia. Feeling the support of the United States and NATO behind its back, Ukraine is preparing for an offensive, this is confirmed by the belligerent rhetoric of the Ukrainian authorities.

Earlier, the reconnaissance of the NM of the DPR recorded the transfer to the line of contact of the MLRS "Hurricane" and "Smerch" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as snipers of special forces. The activation of militants from nationalist formations is noted.

Comments

[Olgovich]

The United States and the rest of the West "DO NOT notice" this Ukrainian group and in every possible way push and encourage Nazis to attack the republics

Hypocritical, vile stance killers and rapists, which are the Western countries that have poured blood over Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc., etc.

[Sharky]

Everything goes to the unleashing of hostilities by Ukraine. All the Western media have become more active, in which they are already accusing the Russian Federation of the impending attack on Ukraine. The supply of weapons by aircraft, the concentration of armed formations near the borders of the DPR and LPR. There will definitely be a provocation from Kiev, the Western media will remain silent. As soon as the answer arrives (after all, almost all residents of Donbass have already received Russian passports, we have the right to protect them), then a squeal will immediately begin in all Western media and the imposition of sanctions ...
Everything is according to the scheme of 08.08.2008/XNUMX/XNUMX, the template practically does not change in the West, led by the United States.
I hope that we are ready for such a development of events.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Sharky

Everything goes to the unleashing of hostilities by Ukraine. All the Western media have become more active, in which they are already accusing the Russian Federation of the impending attack on Ukraine. The supply of weapons by aircraft, the concentration of armed formations near the borders of the DPR and LPR. There will definitely be a provocation from Kiev, the Western media will remain silent. As soon as the answer arrives (after all, almost all residents of Donbass have already received Russian passports, we have the right to protect them), then a squeal will immediately begin in all Western media and the imposition of sanctions ...
Everything is according to the scheme of 08.08.2008/XNUMX/XNUMX, the template practically does not change in the West, led by the United States.
I hope that we are ready for such a development of events.

That is, we told the NATO countries - or do you accept our conditions? I will not repeat which ones, or we can, among other things, attack Ukraine. And now you are indignant that she is constricting her strength. Don't be bullshit

[Sharky]

I will not repeat which ones, or we can, among other things, attack Ukraine. And now you are indignant that she is constricting her strength. Don't be bullshit

Your analytical thinking is bad, as I see it.
Nobody is going to attack Ukraine, we are obliged to protect people with Russian passports from genocide!

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Sharky

I will not repeat which ones, or we can, among other things, attack Ukraine. And now you are indignant that she is constricting her strength. Don't be bullshit

Your analytical thinking is bad, as I see it.
Nobody is going to attack Ukraine, we are obliged to protect people with Russian passports from genocide!

Open YouTube, adult, and listen to Lavrov

[Sharky]

Open YouTube, adult, and listen to Lavrov

I don’t need to “poke”, showing my low level of development and mediocre intelligence.
The movement of its troops on its own territory, as well as on the territory of a union state with its permission, does not contradict any international norms.
We won't strike first, that's obvious. But the vile behavior of Ukraine can lead to the outbreak of war:

The people's militia of the self-proclaimed Lugansk People's Republic reported the abduction of its serviceman by a sabotage group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Sharky

Open YouTube, adult, and listen to Lavrov

I don’t need to “poke”, showing my low level of development and mediocre intelligence.
The movement of its troops on its own territory, as well as on the territory of a union state with its permission, does not contradict any international norms.
We won't strike first, that's obvious. But the vile behavior of Ukraine can lead to the outbreak of war:

The people's militia of the self-proclaimed Lugansk People's Republic reported the abduction of its serviceman by a sabotage group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Did you mean a vile provocation after which we can safely attack?

[bayard]

Quote: Vol4ara

vile provocation after which we can boldly attack

You have already attacked Donbass, which declared its independence from Ukraine, for 8 years. And confirmed his choice by voting in the Independence Referendum.
And you are still trampling the land of Donbass with the boot of the occupying forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other rabble of marauders.

Quote: Vol4ara

Dryers from near Voronezh just flew to Belarus

Quote: Vol4ara

Dryers from near Voronezh just flew to Belarus?

And they flew, and from the Far East the echelons went - to exercises in Belarus. Planned . It is possible that they may stay there to strengthen the western direction, because the forces of Belarus there are clearly not enough.
But why did you deploy the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the national battalions on the border with Belarus? That now Lukashenka has to not only transfer additional forces to strengthen this direction, but also raise the issue of increasing the number of his own Armed Forces? The Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus are traditionally not numerous, but now we have to deploy new formations.

Quote: Vol4ara

And the grouping of troops along the border just got up?

How do you care about your crazy "Nenka" ... Troops began to be deployed there from 2014 - 2015. as a reaction to the coup and carnage in Ukraine. And they are deployed by no means on the border, but tens and hundreds of kilometers from it.

Quote: Vol4ara

And the BDK just gather in the Black Sea?

BDK.
Yes , just . They have planned exercises and the Syrian Express on their shoulders.

Quote: Vol4ara

Well, what are you, Ukraine has not a single reason to fear an invasion and concentrate forces

Why are you concentrating forces in the Donbass?
Or do you not see a threat from Kharkov, Sumy, from sea directions?
Who strikes when attacking in the most protected places?
There are places "softer" than the Donbass, from where it is closer to Kiev.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Although both the tension and the probability are extremely high, you know that Russia will win, but it's still somehow disturbing. I guess that's how it always happens before a fight...

[bayard]

Yes. And this fight is being imposed on us again.
I would prefer to measure arguments on another field - the Caribbean, the Middle East. And here, even when we win, we will be forced to fight with ourselves.
On the other hand, it is unforgivable and harmful to endure the existence and antics of the crazy Karina-U.
Enemies are dragging us into this conflict ... we need a knight's move.

[syndicalist]

Quote: Sharky

The movement of its troops on its own territory, as well as on the territory of a union state with its permission, does not contradict any international norms.

In other words, you want to say that Ukraine has the right to move its troops anywhere on its territory?

[Sharky]

In other words, you want to say that Ukraine has the right to move its troops anywhere on its territory?

Yes, if it does not contradict the Minsk agreements. And their movement of heavy weapons to the demarcation line is just the opposite, isn't it?

[SKVichyakow]

You just twist Lavrov's words, take them in the order you want or use them as you like.

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

or we can also attack Ukraine

who said it?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko

or we can also attack Ukraine

who said it?

The fact that we are attacking Ukraine on such and such a number is not by anyone. But the hint was given quite clear. Dryers from near Voronezh just flew to Belarus? And the grouping of troops along the border just got up? And the BDK just gather in the Black Sea? Well, what are you, Ukraine has not a single reason to fear an invasion and concentrate forces

[Oleg1263]

Well, not even half a year has passed, and already people like you have forgotten the sequence of events ... This is what it is designed for ... Everything is correct.
BUT if it doesn’t make it difficult for you, rewind the news feed six months ago, you will see that the exercises of Russian troops near the western borders became a response to the 100-strong group pulled together by Ukraine to the borders of the LDNR.
What ? Who said now "On their territory, they do what they want?" You must have heard...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Nobody argues with this. But there is no attack. Possibility is there. Desires are not. Not yet.

[Orel]

Quote: Sharky

Everything is according to the scheme of 08.08.2008/XNUMX/XNUMX, the template practically does not change in the West, led by the United States.
I hope that we are ready for such a development of events.

The OSCE observers have not gone anywhere. When events took place in Georgia, they proved in the end that Georgia attacked first and the answer was fair with us, another thing is that the scale of this answer was argued. Here, if there is a conflict, I think it will also be possible to establish who spoke first.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Orel

The OSCE observers have not gone anywhere.

And they know it, they are already trying to make sure that observers are not there at the moment they need. Yesterday, former Ambassador Gilmore proposed to exclude Russia from international organizations, including the OSCE.

[Sharky]

Here, if there is a conflict, I think it will also be possible to establish who spoke first.

Latest News:
Russia warns that it will not tolerate if Kiev and the West go on a provocation in the Donbass and attack the Russians, said Gavrilov, head of the delegation in Vienna.
@rt_russian

And then let them figure out who wins and how. With Georgia, the investigation took them a year, if I'm not mistaken. They weren't particularly in a hurry.

[vintorez]

Here it will be impossible to determine who spoke first, but no one will determine and will. In Georgia, there were our peacekeepers who were attacked. And there are no our peacekeepers in Ukraine. So we will always be at fault here. Nobody recognized the DPR and LPR, so this is the territory of Ukraine, and if we follow the logic, then if we enter there or use long-range weapons, then, accordingly, this will be an act of aggression against a neighboring state. And no one will care if there are citizens of the Russian Federation there or not.

[syndicalist]

In any case, it doesn't matter who attacks first. In general, it is not difficult to arrange a provocation and declare retaliatory actions. Any of the wars of the last century began this way. And this one will be no exception.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Sharky

I hope that we are ready for such a development of events.

Feel free to describe what our diplomacy and military are ready for, and how it will look in a momentary situation ... Do you know? This will be called aggression with all the ensuing consequences. A retaliatory strike is possible in the event of an attack on the territory of the Russian Federation ...
Tell me, for what dates did the speaker of the State Duma postpone the consideration of the issue on the status of the LDNR?
Yes, Russia will simply be immersed in isolation, like the same DPRK ...
There - below, there are two hypothetical options ... Read ... Here, waving a saber, you can, inadvertently, cut off what a sickle is usually used for.

[Sharky]

Feel free to describe what our diplomacy and military are ready for, and how it will look in a momentary situation ... Do you know?

I can only judge from official information. I don't have access to confidential information. And even if it was, it still wouldn't spread.
Judging by the news:

Russia warns that it will not tolerate if Kiev and the West go on a provocation in the Donbass and attack the Russians, said Gavrilov, head of the delegation in Vienna.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Sharky

Russia warns that it will not tolerate if Kiev and the West go on a provocation in the Donbass and attack the Russians

I, too, have not been in the army for a long time, but I noticed a certain timidity in actions when it comes to Ukraine ...
There are a number of measures that allow you to cool the militant ardor ahead of time. What specifically is offered besides news and statements? Do you have personal experience?

[bayard]

Quote: yuriy55

. What specifically is offered besides news and statements?

Apparently you wanted to write "assumed".
The Donbass has a rather warm winter this year, the temperature often crosses zero, the ground is not frozen - tanks and heavy equipment will not pass through the fields. It is necessary that the frosts stand at least 7-10 days. Bandera miscarriages will not be able to advance in such conditions, only local battles and work with artillery, mortars. The weather will rise - they will go, they will be stoned with psychotropic drugs as in 2014 and they will go like milyinki with glass eyes.
Then the hands of the Russian Federation are untied, and all the warnings have already been voiced.

Quote: yuriy55

I, too, have not been in the army for a long time, but I noticed a certain timidity in actions when it comes to Ukraine ...

And I have not served for a long time, but I have been living in Donetsk for the last 8 years. Timidity began from the very beginning of 2014, when the "flash" was clicked. When, instead of a quick reaction to support the legitimate authorities and Ukraine's entry into the EAEU and the CSTO (and they would fly in like a bullet if they supported and turned the situation around - like in Kazakhstan). The second time they clicked when the wave of the Russian Spring rose - then on its crest it was again possible to return everything and put the entire banderva through the tribunal on the gallows. The third time they clicked when the fighting began in the Donbass, the heroic Slavyansk held on, and referendums on sovereignty had already been held in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. The fourth time they clicked on September 1-4, when the entire southern flank collapsed, the boilers and the entire southern direction to Zaporozhye-Crimea-Nikolaev-Odesa was open ... but then it was already more difficult, because on September 1 in the morning they mined the Dnieper-HPP ... with several trucks explosives ... this threatened to flood many settlements downstream. Later, an American military engineering company mined all hydraulic structures along the entire course of the Dnieper ... even millions could have died, with a cascade undermining of dams and locks ... and million-plus cities along the Dnieper.
And the pressure on business, the economy... Russia really turned out to be unprepared for such lawlessness.
Today it seems ready for anything.

And yet, this is really a very large state, which you can’t take at once in a swoop. And since they didn’t keep a finger on the pulse, and those whom they hoped for often drove frank misinformation at the most critical moments in the development of the coup ... and Putin made a mistake by persuading Yanukovych to sign an agreement with the "opposition" - he himself has done that more than once confessed.
Well, yes, they give two unbeaten for a beaten man, so this did not happen with Belarus and Kazakhstan. And the time has come and the realization that it will not resolve itself - the Gordian knot must be cut, and not lubricated with oil of persuasion.
But in winter, in spring, and even in summer, it was possible to solve this issue with quite a bit of blood. Both the Militia and most of the security forces were on our side ... but they turned out to be disoriented and lost their command ... and then uniformed ghouls were sent to them by their superiors.
Kazakhstan is the best example of the right decision.
And with Ukraine, I'm afraid, it will be painful, but necessary.
For your own safety.

[Sharky]

What specifically is offered besides news and statements? Do you have personal experience?

The Iskanders pulled up to the border with Ukraine ... large-scale exercises with Belarus. Obviously we do not want to oversleep the moment if it comes.

[Xnumx vis]

Moreover, the nat was sent to the front line. baht and other nationalist military formations. Obviously realizing that there will be no sense in ordinary military men, and scumbags who stain themselves with blood will fight .. If such people are not worth taking prisoner. Destroy with sunburns, burn out in figs .. an infection.

[ANB]

. Moreover, the nat was sent to the front line. bahts and other nationalist military entities

Where did you find it?
If true, then this is what was needed. The puzzle folds up.

[yuriy55]

Quote: 30 vis

If such people are not worth taking prisoner. Destroy with sunburns, burn out in figs .. an infection.

I agree ...

[yuriy55]

Quote: Olgovich

Hypocritical, vile stance...

I agree. Let's decide on a worthy response of Russia on the issue of the DPR-LPR based on the expected development of the situation.
Option number 1. The Armed Forces of Ukraine keep forces on the border and continue to shoot, carry out sorties and provocations on the territory of the LPR-DPR.
Russia continues to (WHAT?)... Issuing Russian passports? To provide the governments of the republics with material, economic, “humanitarian” assistance, to integrate the economy of the republics into the Russian one (on the basis of what?) and watch how this shaky world depends on any random, thoughtless step or provocation from any of the parties ...
Russia has no international rights other than protecting its own citizens...

Option number 2. The Armed Forces of Ukraine launch an offensive on the territory of the LPR-DPR, while not recognizing the results of the referendum on May 11, 2014.
What can the Russian Federation oppose to this without recognizing the status of the republics at the official level? Protection of Russian citizens on the territory of these republics? Weak argument. Because it does not specify either the size of the counterforce or the nature of the defense.
Moreover, the military actions of citizens of the republics who have Russian passports in their hands are regarded in the West as the conduct of a war by Russia against Ukraine...
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I would suggest waiting for Biden's response to Russia's proposals for non-proliferation of NATO influence to the East (although the answer is known in advance).
At a meeting of the State Duma, consider a proposal to recognize the status of the LPR-DPR and the results of the 2014 referendum. Consider the question of joining the republics to Russia ...
Only in this way does Russia receive full legal rights and the RIGHT of the final cessation of hostilities on the territories of the republics ...
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Please speak up...

[Terenin]

Quote: yuriy55

the issue of the DPR-LPR based on the expected development of the situation.

The situation is clear, like a fish on ice. LDNR is a reason.
The scenario of the US military provocation against Russia using a reusable rubber product like Ukraine is as simple as a steamed turnip and has been repeatedly used by the Anglo-Saxons.
In this regard, Psaki's information about Russia's allegedly impending invasion of Ukraine (dates are interesting - from mid-January to mid-February - if anything, already the third decade of January) serves only as the final finishing touch to the provocation being prepared by the United States.

Quote: yuriy55

I would suggest waiting for Biden's response to Russia's proposals

I do not think so
The United States offers us to endlessly coordinate new rules of the game with them.
The Americans must respond quickly to Russian security proposals.
Russia wants to complete the negotiation situation (yes-yes, no-no) before the start of the Beijing Olympics on February 4th. Because the provocation of the Americans in Ukraine is possible just from 2-3 days before the start of the Olympics until the end of the first week, and this is approximately from February 1 to February 11.
Time is short - a couple of weeks.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Terenin

provocation of Americans in Ukraine is possible just from 2-3 days before the start of the Olympics

On the old rake 08.08.08? What a limited way of thinking these Americans have... Just a clear narrow-mindedness... Now instead of Georgia - Ukraine, instead of Saakashvili - Zelensky ...
If the State Duma makes a decision on the DNR-LNR before the end of January and decides on the entry of the republics into Russia, then our country (at the start of hostilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine) has good reasons to defend its territory, - time; freezing all relations (including gas transit) with the aggressor.
Everything else looks worse. No one in the world understands words - documents are important.
Did the referendum on May 11, 2014 take place? Yes...
Russia (a country that is a member of the UN Security Council) recognized the results of the referendum? Yes...
Russia went to meet the peoples of the independent republics? Yes...
Did she have a right to it? Yes...
Does Russia have the right to defend its own territory? Yes...
The available documents will be weighty arguments in any international court, the decision of which is not so important (as the events of the last 30 years show)...

[bayard]

And what will happen to the territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions now occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine? The population of the regions voted in full force.
Leave the Nazi regime in Ukraine?
Will we return to the regions?
And then what?
What about Kharkov , Odessa , Zaporozhye , Nikolaev ?
Yes, with all of Little and New Russia?
Shall we leave the British Navy base near Odessa?
Will we let the United States deploy missiles, radars, deploy its aircraft on Our (and this is OUR) Earth?
What happened next ? Have a front line near Voronezh and Belgorod?
No "Ukraine" should exist anymore. Only this will guarantee the security of Russia and the entire Russian World.
Although I would rather deploy missiles in the Caribbean under the soft belly of the United States. And from there, burn them on ... ren, if they dare to oppose us in our own house.
And drowned England.
Absolutely.

And world peace.

[sabakina]

Quote: yuriy55

Only in this way does Russia receive full legal rights and the RIGHT of the final cessation of hostilities on the territories of the republics ...
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Please speak up...

He's a bastard!

[NDR-791]

Quote: yuriy55

Consider the question of joining the republics to Russia ...

Quote: yuriy55

Please speak up...

The question remains - to what extent? Unfortunately, this issue cannot be resolved without a war.

[dauria]

At a meeting of the State Duma, consider a proposal to recognize the status of the LPR-DPR and the results of the 2014 referendum. Consider the question of joining the republics to Russia ...
Only in this way Russia gets full legal rights

I love lawyers. What is the US doing in Syria? In Iraq? In Yugoslavia?
Stubs LNR-DNR is a loss. Strategic. There can be only one goal - the change of power in Kiev to a pro-Russian one. And have time to walk south to Ishmael. Otherwise, uninvited guests will strengthen there.
And then to argue fairly - unfairly, legally - illegally. As long as it's real. Then you can only hope for miracles like Yelstone and the fall of the dollar.
.Lousy, but without Ukraine and Belarus there will be no Russia. There will be a cornered stub, gradually losing its influence and eventually divided between China and NATO.

[bayard]

Quote: dauria

And have time to walk south to Ishmael. Otherwise, uninvited guests will strengthen there.

From the south, it is necessary to enter with landings during suppression from the air.
Quickly and in the first phase.
After the exercises with Iran, "Varyag" and BOD, even with him, drive into the Black Sea with "Ustinov" and his group with the Northern Fleet. And close the Black Sea in the straits tightly from any guests.
It is necessary to end with Ukraine - with the regime and its very statehood. You can not divide the people, especially Russian. And with the current division must end once and for all.
And it looks like everything is going to this.

[Osipov9391]

It is not so easy to solve the Turkish strait - they will only have to be heavily mined.
So that the NATO fleet could not enter the Black Sea.
No other way. Turkey has the most powerful ground forces, as well as multi-purpose nuclear submarines of Britain and the United States, are already in the eastern Mediterranean and will be able to operate freely in the straits and in the Black Sea if they are not mined.
Only mine on deaf. There are no other options - do not hold.

[Maxim G]

Turkey has territorial disputes with Greece, if only they could ignite this conflict by pushing their foreheads ....
The conflict within the NATO bloc is the very thing.
But no one can do it.

Well, to pull out of the bloc (more precisely, partially from under the influence of the United States) the most adequate and peaceful members (France, Italy, Germany), but this is even more or less unlikely.

[bayard]

Quote: Osipov9391

Only mine on deaf. There are no other options - do not hold.

Everything depends on the circumstances. If in the Black Sea we have two or three such cruisers + frigates and BODs, then the appearance of NATO ships there will deprive them (NATO ships) of maneuver and will be under the crosshairs of several ships with heavy anti-ship missiles and several battalions of DBK ... as well as under the constant sight of our aviation.
The combat zone will be closed to shipping and flights of foreign aircraft tightly ... Their ships will be just extras there or sink in a matter of minutes.
So it will be if Russia's proposals are rejected in their entirety.
And I would not rule out the creation of a shock fist in the Caribbean by this moment. On good it should already be created there. And this fist can be anything.

But I'm afraid that this war is being prepared from both sides. On the one hand, as the despair of the insane losing everything, on the other hand, those who are forced to act due to circumstances and limited resources.
In this case, you need to hit first.
And by no means is Ukraine the main goal and enemy. The main goal is decision-making centers.

[Osipov9391]

And where did I write about NATO ships? Yes, and those that regularly enter the Black Sea, as a rule, have purely symbolic combat capabilities.
US/British nuclear submarines. So they are the main force with hundreds of Tomahawks and anti-ship missiles on board, as well as torpedoes.
They are already there and not alone. They will operate in the eastern Mediterranean, the straits and will be able to enter the Black Sea if necessary.
And this is a threat to the ships of the Black Sea Fleet and objects on the coast.
There are no means of fighting them and the boats are very fancy and brand new.

[bayard]

The Tomahawk is not as scary as it is painted. Their launch will be guaranteed to be opened almost immediately, and what the electronic warfare cannot cope with will be destroyed by fighter aircraft, which is enough in the Crimea.
But the answer for "Tomahawks" will be in their homeland. And it was THIS that was brought to the attention of the American delegation at the talks.
And that 's why the Americans asked for complete confidentiality of these negotiations . And what are they so afraid of? What kind of leaks? Why are they so sensitive to leaks?

Quote: Osipov9391

There are no means of fighting them and the boats are very fancy and brand new.

And what's the point of catching them (although it would be nice) after they shot back? The answer will be in the United States.
And now they can’t beat off the blow.

[Osipov9391]

So even a fired SSBN has a huge ammunition load of anti-ship or anti-submarine torpedoes. Or anti-ship missiles instead of part of the torpedoes.
And here we are talking about multi-purpose boats. They will threaten the ships of the Black Sea Fleet and are already threatening.
It was in Soviet times that the Mediterranean Sea and its eastern part were filled with Soviet multi-purpose nuclear submarines of the Northern Fleet, numerous diesel submarines of the Black Sea Fleet and Northern Fleet (dozens), large anti-submarine cruisers and PLO aircraft operating from bases in Eastern Europe.
Both US SSBNs and their escort boats have always been detected and escorted. Now there is no one and nothing to do it.

And for Tomahawks, then at least half will reach their destination, fighter aircraft will be used to fight enemy aircraft and strike ships.
Therefore, only coastal air defense systems repel strikes.
"Tomahawks", well, at least

[bayard]

Quote: Osipov9391

So even a fired SSBN has a huge ammunition load of anti-ship or anti-submarine torpedoes.

This is only for the Mediterranean Sea, but we are considering what is coming in the Black Sea. And do not drag Turkey into it, it will definitely be neutral.

Quote: Osipov9391

And here we are talking about multi-purpose boats.

By definition, there cannot be such a "huge" number of CDs, and I have already described what will happen to them.
And what difference does it make whether they threaten or not, they will be just bystanders. For their very first salvo will turn into a full salvo across the USA. And it has already been communicated to them.

Quote: Osipov9391

And for "Tomahawks", then at least half will get to their destination

It depends where they fly. If on the territory of Ukraine, but through Romania and Bulgaria, then perhaps everyone will fly. If in the Crimea and the territory of the Russian Federation, then their success is very doubtful. Their use in Syria confirms this. Taking into account that there the aircraft did not rise into the air, but the explosions at the airbase, the Syrians imitated themselves. The missiles simply went the wrong way, plowed into the ground (hello to the altimeters), or were shot down by air defense forces. But two Burks fired back in full, the British and French participated, and even B-1B with new KR. The result is so-so.
And after all, this time the answer will be both for the carriers and for those who made the decision. There are very serious doubts about the thickness of their small intestines.
And air defense systems in the Crimea and the Russian Black Sea region are quite enough.

Yes, and why guess about the future - less than a week left to wait and see and hear everything.

[Osipov9391]

And what to do with the strategic nuclear submarines of Britain, France and the USA?
There are almost 20 of them, more than half are now patrolling the waters of all oceans.

[bayard]

Here are SSBNs, yes. Combat-ready, at least not all (the case with the launch of the English SSBN "Trident II" instead of the training ground across the USA).
Age.
And not half of the two dozen - this has never happened, especially among the British and French. But 6 - 8 pcs. may be on patrol.
And in a threatened period, so all serviceable ones will be thrown out to sea.

By the way , today I watched an interview with the Russian ambassador to Venezuela . He says that when local (Venezuelan) ministers and other generals and officials heard that the Russian Federation intended to open bases with them, they rejoiced. Everyone called to interrupt, asked, congratulated on the decision. Under all types of bases are ready to provide.
The ambassador in the host country will never invent or lie on such topics.
So we'll find out by the end of the week.
In the meantime, they are silent about Raisi's visit - "like a fish on ice." It is only known that both were very pleased with the results of the meeting.
We'll find out soon.

[Osipov9391]

The British work scheme for SSBNs is as follows: one is on patrol, the other is going to replace it, another one is on duty at a base in Scotland with ammunition and is able to go out into the ocean within a few hours.
The fourth boat is disarmed and under repair. After it, she must come to King Bay on her own, receive missiles from the USA there, conduct a test launch of a pair of missiles off the coast of Florida, return to Scotland, receive nuclear charges and take up duty.
Then when this boat returns to service for maintenance, one of the others will become.

I can't speak French. But I think similarly, there are 4 boats all new and modern missiles with modern charges.

[bayard]

Yes, the French have all the boats, missiles and charges new - they completed their nuclear test program later than everyone else, so the charges must be in good shape.
By the way, again Manuel got excited about the "joined forces of Europe", he seems to be angry about the stolen contracts.

[Osipov9391]

And the nuclear industry of France is not nearly inferior to the Russian one. Maybe just smaller. But all the functions are there - from uranium mining to vitrification and processing of spent nuclear fuel from submarines / nuclear power plants, both from our own and from many countries of the world.
Well, they have the production of nuclear weapons of different classes.

The shipbuilding, aviation, microelectronic, space industries need no introduction.
From small arms to satellites do.

[Maxim G]

I would also add an excellent automotive industry.

[Maxim G]

Oh, I didn’t finish writing, tank building, in general, the creation of various armored vehicles.
What they themselves do not create - they can buy.
Illustrative examples: Grumman E-2 Hawkeye, aircraft engines, the purchase of Daher by Quest, which produces the Kodiak aircraft (our "Baikal" is its analogue).

[ser-pov]

Quote: Olgovich

The United States and the rest of the West "DO NOT notice" this Ukrainian group and in every possible way push and encourage Nazis to attack the republics

Hypocritical, vile stance killers and rapists, which are the Western countries that have poured blood over Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc., etc.

Unfortunately, there is no getting away from this .. Here it is not necessary to comb Honduras (Khokhlostan), but to destroy the cause of the disease .. And Khoklostan will immediately be blown away ...

[spectr]

After our ultimatum, the usual test of strength. And most of all, for some reason, "wound up" England. She delivered weapons to Ukraine (and instructors) and stated that she would impose sanctions against Russia if a pro-Russian government appeared in Ukraine.

[rotmistr60]

Kiev, emboldened by military aid coming from the West, will decide to escalate the military conflict and carry out some kind of provocation in order to accuse the republics and Russia

While the Americans and their "allies" are deciding what other sanctions to impose on Russia, while continuing to pump Ukraine with weapons and promises, Kiev is quietly preparing for its own suicide. What can you sacrifice for the sake of "friends" crying at your grave and chipping in "thousands" each for a wake.

[Sharky]

Kiev under the guise of strenuously preparing for his suicide

I hope that ours will simply defeat all these Ukronazi formations remotely. And then: cauldron after cauldron and the remains of cyborgs will turn into a stream of coffins...

[Third district]

Quote: Sharky

I hope that ours will simply defeat all these Ukronazi formations remotely. And then: cauldron after cauldron and the remains of cyborgs will turn into a stream of coffins...

Preparations for war have been going on for a long time. NATO partners have probably calculated all the scenarios for the development of events. So it is unlikely that everything will go as simply and smoothly as you wrote.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Anything but to join Ukraine to Russia. These impoverished Ukraine are worse than any sanctions. Let them rake themselves out of their slops. Jumped - get and sign!

[yuriy55]

Quote: Sharky

I hope that ours will simply defeat all these Ukronazi formations remotely.

Here the question is broader than the usual defeat ...
Can you clothe your hopes in a legal status?
In order to smash remotely, it was necessary in the third quarter of 2021 not to increase trade turnover with Ukraine by 30%, but to reduce it to a minimum!!! Only after that deal with boilers, coffins on the basis
RECOGNITION BY RUSSIA OF THE STATUS OF THE LDNR AND THE RESULTS OF THE 2014 REFERENDUM...
Foreign policy is not subject to yard concepts - not always the one who strikes first turns out to be the winner ... Moreover, it happens that there are catastrophically few hats for throwing ...

[LiSiCyn]

Ukrainian general Krivonos told how Russia will seize Ukraine

The former First Deputy Commander of the Special Operations Forces, General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Serhiy Krivonos, outlined the scenario of "Ukraine joining Russia." He described his vision of this process during the broadcast on the Ukrlife.TV channel.

According to Krivonos, Russia may well quickly establish control over strategically important airfields on the territory of Ukraine and quickly transfer large forces there.

“Five to seven airfields within a radius of less than 50 kilometers from Kiev and two airfields inside the city (at the Antonov plant and Zhuliany airfield) will allow the Russians to carry out an airborne assault,” Krivonos said.

He admits that the capture of these airfields can be carried out by the first echelon of combat helicopters, which penetrate the reconnaissance zone of the Kiev air defense region, following at low altitudes and leaving the Ukrainian Air Force fighters. Landing assault groups from helicopters will quickly capture these airfields.

At the second stage, Russia will transfer large ground forces by military transport aircraft to the captured airfields. All this can happen very quickly.

[Terenin]

Quote: LiSiCyn

Russia will transfer large ground forces by military transport aircraft. All this can happen very quickly.

Krivonos, we can take our time. All the same, this will not affect the outcome of the war.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: rotmistr60

What will you not sacrifice for the sake of "friends" crying on your grave

There will be a lot of victims! And this blood will be hidden on the suppliers of weapons!

[alex neym_2]

I bring to your attention: Ukraine owns the most modern electronic warfare system, which does not even break through from space. I don’t speak for the OSCE anymore - you can’t see anything further than the hotel restaurant! Russia is another matter. There is a separate toilet even on the NATO satellite map, but the barracks and equipment are even more so ... the visibility zone is different.

[Emergency]

In Kiev, they were given the task of provoking strikes against the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Then they blame us. The case is well known. But what kind of dog mother do you have to be, knowing what will happen, throw your soldiers into the meat grinder, in order to fulfill the order of a foreign pan?

[Egoza]

Quote: Emergency

But what kind of dog mother do you have to be, knowing what will happen to throw your soldiers into a meat grinder, in order to fulfill the order of a foreign pan?

So not their own children will be there!
By the way, it has already been noted that there are a lot of deserters.

[Mishek]

Quote: Egoza

By the way, it has already been noted that there are a lot of deserters.

They run, some to Poland, some to Russia, feeling that they smell of fried lard ..

[Terenin]

Quote: Emergency

But what kind of dog mother do you have to be, knowing what will happen to throw your soldiers into a meat grinder, in order to fulfill the order of a foreign pan?

For this, the Anglo-Saxons carried out a military coup (Maidan).

[Mishek]

Quote: Terenin

For this, the Anglo-Saxons carried out a military coup (Maidan).

No one doubts this anymore Gennady ..

[Terenin]

Quote from Mishek

Quote: Terenin

For this, the Anglo-Saxons carried out a military coup (Maidan).

No one doubts this anymore Gennady ..

And for a long time.

[belovvladimir]

Yes, it doesn’t smell like a provocation anymore, but preparation for slaughter in full, some want to introduce sanctions, so for a reason they are heating up, war is someone’s mother and someone is grief, fashington war by proxy happiness, in a word!

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

All this is very disturbing. I noticed that troops from the Far East and Siberia arrived in the Republic of Belarus for the exercises. Interesting…

[NDR-791]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

I noticed that troops from the Far East and Siberia arrived in the Republic of Belarus for the exercises.

And nothing surprising, because not the first time. Here in the center of Siberia, troops are often transported back and forth without any big exercises.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I’m joking, of course, but as soon as I heard the Siberian divisions, I immediately tensed up.) If I’m not mistaken, they went a little too far ..)

[your vsr 66-67]

I have expressed my opinion before. I repeat. All this is very reminiscent of the 30s of the last century! As then, they arm, incite, etc. They themselves want to stay on the sidelines and see what happens. The gentlemen Europeans and minke whales will not come out! If, at your instigation, hostilities begin, then they will roll over you in such a skating rink that it will not seem small!

[Mishek]

Earlier, the reconnaissance of the NM of the DPR recorded the transfer to the line of contact of the MLRS "Hurricane" and "Smerch" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as snipers of special forces.

Let them pull everything and everyone together .. It's easier then to cover everyone at once!
The video is old, but imagine what's new there.

God bless DNR!

[neurostimulator]

Some vicious degenerate gave you a minus ... Thanks for the video, I saw Zakharchenko, once again. God bless DNR!

[Mishek]

Quote: Neurostimulator

Some vicious degenerate gave you a minus ... Thanks for the video, I saw Zakharchenko, once again. God bless DNR!

It often happens here.. We will not surrender the DPR, all the people will go to the defense, if anything

[neurostimulator]

I remember the children's song "The solar circle, the sky around ..." ... so let's go with it, or rather with its refrain ... how people are still alive there and have not despaired at all - I can’t even imagine.

[Mishek]

Quote: Neurostimulator

I remember the children's song "The solar circle, the sky around ..." ... so let's go with it, or rather with its refrain ... how people are still alive there and have not despaired at all - I can’t even imagine.

And most often such a song in my soul sounds louder and louder (reading such news, etc.)

We Russians must prevent another world massacre for the sake of the world's usurers .. Thirsty for increased profits !!!!

[neurostimulator]

Thanks for this video too. I have completely forgotten those songs. And they make much more sense than everything that is now ... "in trend."

[Alex Nevs]

Provocation ala 080808 Will be. Everything goes towards it.

[sen]

The head of the DPR: Kiev continues to pull forces to the line of contact

Ours also need to get ready: cruise missiles, Iskanders ...

[neurostimulator]

Tanks are good. But the one who learns to use weapons of mass destruction will continue to win. And nuclear bombs are no longer at the forefront, like tanks.
I really hope that Russia has something to "put up on the battlefield" in this case.

[Vitaly.17]

Quote: Neurostimulator

Russia has something to "put up at the battlefield"

The problem of all wars is accuracy and timeliness. And historically, Russia has always had this, as a rule, because of the rotten political elite, which, to the last, tries to play muddy games and discuss rights and justice at a time when decisions had to be made yesterday.

[neurostimulator]

the time when decisions had to be made yesterday

yes, this is a very important factor.

[fa2998]

Quote: Sharky

and also on the territory of a union state, with its permission, does not contradict any international norms.

And how to understand, based on what you wrote, Russia's demand to remove NATO troops from the "allied states" of Bulgaria and Romania. Does it contradict any norms?