Commander of the German Navy: Crimea will never be Ukrainian

Crimea will never be Ukrainian again. Its status as a Russian region is already an indisputable fact.

This opinion was expressed by the Commander of the German Navy, Vice Admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach, during a conference of the Defense Research Institute M. Parrikar in India, discussing the situation around Ukraine.

During the discussion of the candidacies of states wishing to join the North Atlantic Alliance, a high-ranking German military officer said that Georgia meets all the parameters, but it would be unwise to accept it into NATO.

The vice admiral also noted that New Delhi and Berlin should work more closely with Moscow, which could become a strong ally in the confrontation with China. The German military believes that bilateral agreements between states are ineffective, so countries should unite in closer associations.

Schönbach suggested that there would be a large continental armed conflict. True, in his opinion, in the coming years it can not be expected. Most likely, it will happen in ten or even twenty years. By that time, according to the German Vice Admiral, a critical mass of unresolved conflicts will have accumulated in the world, both in Europe and in Asia. And these conflicts can turn out to be interdependent both in the military-political and economic terms.

A referendum on joining the Russian Federation was held in Crimea in March 2014. More than 96 percent of the citizens of the peninsula and more than 95 percent of the inhabitants of Sevastopol voted for this decision.

Many German journalists criticized the commander of the country's navy, stating that Russia "may perceive his words as legitimizing the actions committed in 2014 by the leading EU countries."

Comments

[tralflot1832]

A good trend the other day, the Slovak bombed, Kuleba is tormented to demand explanations.

[alex neym_2]

Not long ago, Frau MFA visited Moscow, now these statements? Has the ice already broken? Not all sane people can dance to the tune of Uncle Sam - it's time to move their hemispheres ...

[tralflot1832]

So far, Burbock has made no progress. The Admiral will not go to Ukraine, so he got into a conversation.

[NDR-791]

Quote: tralflot1832

So far, Burbock has made no progress. The Admiral will not go to Ukraine, so he got into a conversation.

E nooo. Notice he's not "ex" or "io". And if he doesn’t say something, then he may not become a full admiral. And not afraid. I respect. So the trend, however. What if we invite you to Crimea? He will probably lose a lot if he is not allowed into 404

[tralflot1832]

With a visit of friendship, we are Kiel, he is in Sevastopol with an honorary escort, with a carpet path to the gangway and a car

vaem with a salt shaker and a stoper of vodka.

[alex neym_2]

Know the measure (about 26 liters)! And then the lip has already been rolled out - the time will come and Westerners will visit the northern coast of the Black Sea for happiness on vacation - not Nice, of course, but you need to strive for this ... and the road will be mastered by the walking one.

[_Sergei_]

My daughter-in-law's cousin from Germany goes to Sochi every year to have a rest.

[smart ass]

What would he not ride with such a euro exchange rate

[NDR-791]

Why not. Our Germans once brought two policemen from Osnabrück "on vacation to Russia" (are you already scared?). Here they were sharpening an enameled bowl of dumplings and 1,5 vodka for two at a time. And then in the Park of Culture they tried to stop the equestrian outfit in order to tryndet for the hard lot of law enforcement officers. I'll tell you, even the horses had in their eyes ... "Nazis again ??? Shoot right away or wait ???" And so normal pranksters, albeit cops

[-Paul-]

He won't, now he's an ex.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: tralflot1832

The admiral will not go to Ukraine, so he got into a conversation.

Will be retired in FIG. Enough service? For "inconsistency with the general line of the party and government." The Germans will not want to expel - the Americans will "ask". Either personal sanctions will be imposed, or the maid "raped" by him 30 years ago will be found in the hotel, or something else ... In the "free democratic world" such quirks are not forgiven.

[-Paul-]

Already kicked out.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: -Paul-

Already kicked out.

Yesterday?!!!! Never mind the efficiency of "democracy" ...

It would be so for us - the entire economic bloc in the Government of the Russian Federation would have been cleaned up long ago.

[Kesha1980]

. Has the ice already broken? Not all sane people can dance to the tune of Uncle Sam - it's time to move their hemispheres ...

So "they dance to the tune of Uncle Sam" - these are all virtual gingerbread cookies that do not need to be given, it is enough to talk about them. And what we ourselves have thought of is our problem.
For "Uncle Sam" "fronts of war" - the sea, sometimes these fronts are artificially created - in order to "type" retreat.
For the United States, as a hegemon, China is now the most dangerous of all).
Are there any consequences for this statement? Not! The West has the right to say to Lavrov: "we made a move, then your move"? It has).

[Mikhail Zhikharev]

By the way, gentlemen Germans, think about whether you bet on those? And what, the Republic of Germany within the Russian Federation, even an enclave, can you imagine? Let's bend everyone, and a comfortable existence for our peoples is ensured for hundreds of years to come!))

[NDR-791]

Quote: Mikhail Zhikharev

By the way, gentlemen Germans, think about whether you bet on those?

Unfortunately, they did not put it, it is still on them. But I feel like something is changing, and this despite the green government

[AUL]

Quote: Mikhail Zhikharev

By the way, gentlemen Germans, think about whether you bet on those? And what, the Republic of Germany within the Russian Federation, even an enclave, can you imagine?

They woke up too late. This would have been feasible and effective from the time of the Weimar Republic until about the year 38. Then the train left.

[Sergej1972]

Yeah, imagine that a third of the State Duma deputies and ministers will be Germans.)

[Clear]

according to the German Vice Admiral, a critical mass of unresolved conflicts will have time to accumulate in the world,

And, according to the German admiral, who is the main source of unresolved conflicts?

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Clear

according to the German admiral, who is the main source

Western generals warmly recall the times of the XNUMXth Century: fixed duty hours, occasional business trips, service, career growth, solid stability ... they perfectly understand who took it all away from them and dragged it into a series of conflicts

[fruc]

tralflot1832
Kuleba is tormented to demand explanations.

Does anyone even take this rubbish into account? He cannot demand anything, he can only yelp about sanctions from behind the back of a big uncle, in company with Zee.

German journalists:
Russia "may perceive as legitimization of the actions committed in 2014 by the leading EU countries."

Russian actions in 2014 perfectly adequate.

[Mishek]

Germans know Russians like no other nation in the world! And they will not talk in vain ..

[Clear]

Quote from Mishek

Germans know Russians like no other nation in the world! And they will not talk in vain ..

Yeah. Most Germans have run out of vaccination, but obviously not all.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Clear

Most Germans have run out of vaccinations, but apparently...

.. that for politicians it ended along with independence.
The music played for a short time.

Quote from Bild

Fleet Commander Kai-Achim Schönbach resigns! He downplayed Putin's aggressive policy toward Ukraine

https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/bild-exklusiv-marine-chef-kay-achim-schoenbach-tritt-ab-78910712.bild.html

[Clear]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: Clear

Most Germans have run out of vaccinations, but apparently...

.. that for politicians it ended along with independence.
The music played for a short time.

Quote from Bild

Fleet Commander Kai-Achim Schönbach resigns! He downplayed Putin's aggressive policy toward Ukraine

https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/bild-exklusiv-marine-chef-kay-achim-schoenbach-tritt-ab-78910712.bild.html

I believe he was well aware of the consequences of his statement.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Clear

I think he knew full well the consequences of his statement.

, I just wanted to go to demobilization as an honest person - respect and respect for the admiral. In addition, they will now be looking for a CEO in one newly created company. - a good candidate

[svp67]

The vice admiral also noted that New Delhi and Berlin should work more closely with Moscow, which could become a strong ally in the confrontation with China. The German military believes that bilateral agreements between states are ineffective, so countries should unite in closer associations.

Wow ... And an interesting union could be formed ... But not against someone, but for common development ...

[horus88]

Our alliance with Germany, not to mention the "Single Space from Lisbon to Vladivostok" is a terrible dream of the United States, they will not allow this, and the Europeans do not dare to go against the hegemon yet

[Pandiurin]

Quote: horus88

Our alliance with Germany, not to mention the "Single Space from Lisbon to Vladivostok" is a terrible dream of the United States, they will not allow this, and the Europeans do not dare to go against the hegemon yet

"From Lisbon to Vladivostok" was such one of the projects, implying the political and economic mutual integration of Russia and the EU, but this is no longer relevant. For Russia, the plans include the development of the CSTO, the CU, the SG, etc. Those. their own projects. With the EU, it is desirable to build good-neighborly but politically completely independent relations.

The EU is not entirely capable, subjective, adequate. There can be no talk of mutually integrating political processes.

As obvious as it is, the EU imposes sanctions on Russia for all sorts of LGBT reasons, bulk sanctions, a third energy package, green energy, etc.
There are no prospects that there is something in their heads that will improve.

There is no need to integrate with the madhouse, you need to distance yourself, leave purely economic ties. We supply gas to you, supply electricity to your madhouse, you pay for it, we buy what is produced in your madhouse, and that's it.

[paul3390]

I don’t think that a confrontation with China would greatly help the development of Russia ... Even in the type of alliance with Berlin ..

[svp67]

Quote: paul3390

I do not think that the confrontation with China would greatly help the development of Russia.

Here I agree completely. If such a union is to be created, then only economic and not in any case military.

Quote: paul3390

Even in the type of alliance with Berlin ..

That could work economically. German and our technologies, our resources, and most importantly, the huge Indian market...

[paul3390]

That could work economically.

I’m not sure either .. Under the current authorities, most likely we would have turned for Germany into a market for high-tech goods and a banal source of raw materials .. The technologies themselves - shish wouldn’t be shared .. Why do we need such an alliance?

[svp67]

Quote: paul3390

Under the current authorities, most likely we would have turned for Germany into a market for high-tech goods and a banal source of raw materials.

Who told you this? How many such fears have already been. The most recent in relation to China, that everything, we are now completely their satellites and controlled, and what, how much have they come true? You can say a lot of claims to our authorities, but not in the desire to become someone's colony

[NDR-791]

Quote: paul3390

I don’t think that the confrontation with the PRC would greatly help the development of Russia ... Even in the type of alliance with Berlin ..

Most likely ours do not think so, almost so. The normal unkillable axis turns out to be Berlin-Moscow-Beijing. This is exactly the "horror of Washington"

[Lara Croft]

Quote: paul3390

I don’t think that a confrontation with China would greatly help the development of Russia ...

Well, the PRC was helped by an alliance with the United States against the USSR at one time ... now the United States is biting its elbows ...
If the union of the Russian Federation with the FRG will help the development of the Russian Federation, then why should we take into account the interests of the PRC to the detriment of the Russian Federation?

[Mishek]

Quote: svp67

Wow ... And an interesting union could be formed ... But not against someone, but for common development ...

Germany, you need to tear it away from the USA and Israel ... They are still bloodsuckers and provocateurs .. Germans, you are being poisoned again with Russia !!! Remember it

[paul3390]

Lord - and China, what did Berlin do wrong ?? So much so that it was urgently needed to sign the Russians to fight for German interests?

[svp67]

Quote: paul3390

Lord - and China, what did Berlin do wrong ??

Let's just say that there is just an attempt at a new reorganization of the world

Quote: paul3390

So much so that it was urgently needed to sign the Russians to fight for German interests?

This is exactly what you need to avoid

[Andrea]

So Crimea was never Ukrainian, in fact it owned illegally, that is. was stolen.
And as for the accumulated unsolvable problems .... this is not garbage, you just need to find a way to solve them. Looking at how the problems are being solved now, the states are evacuating part of the embassy from Ukraine, they probably know something?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Andrea

Looking at how the problems are being solved now, the states are evacuating part of the embassy from Ukraine, they probably know something?

The states and only the states know, but Ukraine has not yet been introduced to the course of the future.

[belovvladimir]

Fashington will come out with verbal panos from the words of a German general, in my opinion, for a long time it was possible for many to recognize Crimea as Russian territory and not suffer in barking, tearing their voices, and squeezing a fart from fear both in the Baltic and in Fashington, especially in Polyand!

[El Chuvachino]

One step away from the bath
In general, at least someone has a backbone there

[Clear]

Quote: El Chuvachino

One step away from the bath
In general, at least someone has a backbone there

The west may have a backbone, but the loot ends and the fanatics ($) are let out - mother do not cry.

[-Paul-]

Already banned...

[Tusv]

Berlin should work more closely with Moscow, which could be a strong ally against China.

Here are those times. Our president, who is mistakenly called "an evil dwarf" in the West, stands for good and mutually beneficial relations with neighbors, and these people are going to fight with Our neighbors? Guys from NATO, who is really an evil dwarf? Lord Imperialists. We don't even border on Germany. You immediately in the mug or vpendyurit postponed? Postponement will hurt more. There are no kukrunets on you

[yuriy55]

The issue of Crimea is finally closed, and the opinion of the Germans, like other nations, is secondary here.
In a good scenario, the issue of Ukraine may soon be closed ...

[kytx]

The German speaks.
In general, I began to notice that Germany has become more pragmatic in actions and now in words in relation to the Russian Federation.
It was not for nothing that such a serious uncle blurted out from the podium.

[Clear]

Quote: kytx

The German speaks.
In general, I began to notice that Germany has become more pragmatic in actions and now in words in relation to the Russian Federation.
It was not for nothing that such a serious uncle blurted out from the podium.

Yes. And, the head of the German Foreign Ministry behaved decently in Russia. Why?

[Egoza]

Quote: kytx

The German speaks.
In general, I began to notice that Germany has become more pragmatic in actions and now in words in relation to the Russian Federation.

In fact, the Union of Germany and Russia has always irritated England and she tried her best to prevent it. By inheritance and the United States passed. But if there is such an alliance (not in terms of a union state, but as real partners), then the whole of Europe will smell, and the United States will have to reckon with the new situation.

[Retvizan 8]

"Crimea will never be Ukrainian again"...
Once again, the embroidered shirts on the chest will tear with a crunch and the bloomers of some especially frantic people in the outskirts will flare up after they read this statement.

[Mikhail Zhikharev]

Coolly said: it will blaze in bloomers, it’s not an iron point

[Suomynona]

After these words, a real nightmare began on the Ukrainian train (c)
The Germans are a great nation, I hope over time they will solve the migration issue and the issue of dependence on the United States

[Retvizan 8]

Shcha Melnik (the ambassador to Germany is coming out) will issue another pearl commenting on the statement of the German military.

[Clear]

Quote: Retvizan 8

Shcha Melnik (the ambassador to Germany is coming out) will issue another pearl commenting on the statement of the German military.

It is not clear why Germany still tolerates this boor?

[kytx]

Well, they're just monopenissally on him.

[Retvizan 8]

Why endure? To be afraid that someone even worse will be sent in return.

[Clear]

Quote: Retvizan 8

Why endure? To be afraid that someone even worse will be sent in return.

It is logical

[Emergency]

A smart man, not like some.

[TermNachTer]

Did the fascist's genetic memory work? perhaps his grandfather visited the Crimea in 1941-44?

[kytx]

No need to invent any nonsense about memory. The EU has now concluded a series of agreements with China on expanding economic cooperation, the EU is interested in the supply of raw materials from the Russian Federation (timber, gas, which are now artificially slowed down). Germany would be happy to sell heavy engineering products to the Russian Federation. Etc

[TermNachTer]

All that you have listed is from the field of economics, and it is by no means indisputable that everything you have listed can be bought by Germany in other places. Admirals - they actually do war)))

[kytx]

War is a continuation of politics, politics is needed by the economy. What's wrong?
A high-ranking warrior can, like, blurt out what a thread of garbage and, in which case, get off: "guilty, sir! In the heat of the moment!". :)
By the way, in this case, they are all much more balanced than, for example, in our state fool who lives on another planet.

[TermNachTer]

They also have enough fools, for example, their minister of foreign affairs, for whom corruption proceedings have already been opened)))

[kytx]

Well, a chick in the army is like on a ship, to be in trouble. Although I don’t think that she decides something and is able to decide, she just shines her face on the camera.

[TermNachTer]

Of course, it is not she who decides, the coalition that put her in this position decides. But she already put it, so we are waiting for the next jokes)))

[tihonmarine]

Crimea will never be Ukrainian again. Its status as a Russian region is already an indisputable fact.

It's good that Germany has admirals with a head, unlike some politicians (especially women).

[Astra55]

Commander of the German Navy: Crimea will never be Ukrainian

You are damn right, colleague!

[Engineer Schukin]

A new level of presentation of information stew at VO.
It’s not just that they don’t give a full translation of the source, they don’t even translate direct quotations and don’t give them at all.
All in your own words. And the guys are happy with such a meal. Caps began to fly even higher.

[Sergej1972]

I went to Echo of Moscow, Korrespondent.net and UNIAN, they write the same thing.

[Piramidon]

Commander of the German Navy: Crimea will never be Ukrainian

Has it really begun to reach?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Piramidon

Has it really begun to reach?

Rather, just allowed to speak

[Mikhail Zhikharev]

Thank you Kai, you are a realist!

[rocket757]

Commander of the German Navy: Crimea will never be Ukrainian

. If you take a closer look, was he Kukuevsky in general?

[Sands Careers General]

Commander of the German Navy: Crimea will never be Ukrainian

Against the background of such news, the Sumerians are even more stormy)))
Hail!

[alystan]

The vice admiral also noted that New Delhi and Berlin should work more closely with Moscow, which could become a strong ally in the confrontation with China. The German military believes that bilateral agreements between states are ineffective, so countries should unite in closer associations.

Meanwhile, they themselves do not know how to revive trade and economic ties with China.
Everything is done like a slutty owner.

[From Tomsk]

The persistence with which the Ukrainians are trying to return Crimea is similar to the desire of two gay men to conceive a child. The more they try, the more the dupa hurts.

[Timur_3]

Everything will be fine.
The one who has the truth on his side wins.

[singless]

hahahahahahahahahahaha

[Ryaruav]

Ukrainians will add a German to the execution list

[Sergey Tankist]

Okay, India and China are in conflict, but why did China not please Germany? Where is China and where is Germany ...

[Dkuznecov]

They say that covid has such consequences
- while maintaining speech and memory,
an infected individual "sculpts" a nonsense.
Don't take this bla-bla-bla seriously.

[75 Sergey]

At least they pay well?

[Dkuznecov]

I don't fall for anyone
neither accountable nor subordinate to anyone,
if you are interested. Since 2006,
to myself. Prior to that hunchbacked on the "uncle".

[expert]

Here is what "die Welt" writes:
"He felt that there was no one around who could watch him, he was far from home - and he said what he really thought. The commander of the German naval forces, Vice Admiral Kai-Achim Schönbach, one of the most important officers The Bundeswehr, said at a think tank event in Delhi, India, that Russia's plans to occupy part of Ukraine are "absurd" What Russian President Putin really wants is "respect at a decent level." The officer was filmed during his lecture. Whether it was legal or not is not clear. In any case, this is a surreal spectacle with a dangerous look at the Ukrainian crisis and Putin. It contradicts the official position of the federal government on almost every point."
So, in Germany, it is IMPOSSIBLE to say what you think if it goes against the official, even if unrealistic course of politicians!

[Svejk]

He's already been bullied and he's already resigned. Ukrainians called the German ambassador to the carpet and raised a screech. Still did everything right.

[75 Sergey]

Aiu they are forbidden to have a personal opinion of what to do, the totalitarian Western regime.

[Svejk]

[75 Sergey]

Something like that

[75 Sergey]

Already retired.
This is how they fight dissent in the West, no one is interested in the personal opinion of everyone, everything is totalitarian, according to the template.

[Svejk]

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article236409619/Kay-Achim-Schoenbach-Marine-Chef-sorgt-mit-Aeusserung-zu-Ukraine-Krise-fuer-Eklat.html почитал коментарии немцев под новостью про адмирала, процентов 95 негодуют, пишут я мол также думаю, меня теперь тоже уволят из Германии? Или пишут что эти украинцы задолбали уже, из за них увольняют таких людей, мол в каком месте он был неправ?

[Oberleutnant]

Yes, he was just removed from his post. expected. Here is our freedom of speech.

[tolmachiev51]

He told the truth, they forced him to resign - this is a shitty Western "world". There should be one opinion - "Fashington".

[picus]

Already resigned. The resignation has already been accepted.

[VLAD-96]

He was dismissed for this, not according to the concepts of the bazaar, godfathers in America did not accept this .. Meanwhile, Ukrainians are happy as children jump and clap their hands.

[Alfred]

The Germans still have brilliant intelligence.

[stels_07]

In retirement, he spoke not badly about Moscow's geopolitics, which means we are waiting for the board of Gazprom.

[1536]

The German Chancellor (1933-1945) A. Hitler never loved and did not trust the military. For which, in the end, he paid the price.
No, after all, the Germans did not understand anything and did not learn anything. And as soon as some of them have flashes of consciousness, they are immediately extinguished by the paranoid ideas of their "leaders".

[Dzafdet]

They already removed the uncle, but it's a pity. His head is right.

[ivar.zhukov]

Ales is sorry.