The Week: Ukraine does not deserve NATO protection

Despite statements about the threat of a Russian invasion, neither the US nor NATO is ready to defend Ukraine. And if the West cannot or does not want to protect Ukrainian democracy, then, in fact, it does not need Ukraine, writes the author of an article for the British edition of The Week.

Neither the United States nor NATO are ready to send their troops to Ukraine, and sanctions against Russia have long lost their effectiveness, the author writes. Washington's reluctance to use the army in a situation with a Russian invasion shows the real attitude of the United States towards Ukraine. In all cases, when America wanted to influence events, the American army was launched to defend the US position. But not in this case.

The modern vision of the situation is mainly based on the consequences of the Second World War and the Cold War. The thinking of the modern layman is trying to fit the current events into the framework of the past, dividing the whole world into white and black, where Russia is inevitably an evil empire, and Putin is a tyrant who wants to conquer the whole world.

However, this is not the case, the author claims. Attempts to divide the world into good and bad have already cost the US a lot of money and a lot of blood in the Middle East. There is a strong possibility that the United States is overestimating Ukraine as a democratic state, saying that everything told about the Ukrainian regime with its shortcomings is just “disinformation” for Russia. In fact, the admission of Ukraine to NATO is fraught with consequences that will have to be dealt with for quite a long time.

Instead of accusing Russia of "disinformation", the United States needs to discuss with its allies the costs and problems that the current Ukrainian government will bring with it. It is possible that Ukraine did not deserve the protection of NATO, sums up the author of a major British edition of The Week.

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[NDR-791]

The US is overestimating Ukraine as a democratic state

This means not enough seven-color? They don't deserve protection! Look, jumpers - nothing has begun yet, and you are no longer worthy.

[Orel]

Quote: NDR-791

This means not enough seven-color? They don't deserve protection!

This means that you have to protect yourself. It is not forbidden to greet and ask for help, but in the struggle, count only on yourself, and there, as it will be, it will be so. They will help - thanks, no - don't make a mistake yourself.

[neurostimulator]

don't be bad yourself

This means you will be thrown soon)))

[Orel]

Quote: Neurostimulator

This means you will be thrown soon)))

So they were never promised that they would fight for them. This is a disservice. They want to be independent from Russia - fight for it and die, if you really want it, then there will be a chance.

[neurostimulator]

I doubt even you believe what you yourself say.
I will say more, when the Maidan was only planned, there were many very "promising" promises from Western partners, from the US State Department, and many others. Quantity turned into quality, and ... Maidauns rebelled. So when that day came, no one there had any idea that they would continue to slurp their porridge themselves. Quite the opposite, remember the girl who wanted lace panties in the EU too? I will only say one thing, then there even a STUPID teenager had a reason to wildly rejoice at how much easier and simpler life in Ukraine should suddenly become, and most importantly, to work, to be educated and you don’t need to create anything for a new life - everything is promised as reward for Maidan, i.e. for free.
But, the freebie worked for very few, without whom it was really impossible to do in Maidan affairs.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Doubts overcome me ... The author says that the West does not need to defend Ukraine, there is no need to bring in its troops, there is no need to impose sanctions against Russia - and the United States / West / NATO is pushing weapons into Ukraine with might and main and slowly, little by little, they are introducing NATO into Ukraine. WHY is this?

[neurostimulator]

If you have "potatoes" for the winter in your cellar, but your three sworn neighbors do not, then they will undoubtedly come to you, even before the "cold weather" begins. Because there are three of them, and you are one, but until this day they will all talk about only one thing - that they don’t want to see you anymore.
People in anger are very often extremely frank. The main thing is to be careful enough not to make a mistake in interpreting their true intentions later...
This is a very brief retelling of the course in the history of wars and the section of political science on the conduct of military diplomacy in the prewar period.
Of course, you may have more questions ... with pre-known answers. But I would not like to be your tutor any longer.

[Anachoret]

Lace panties leaked, gravity and time did their “bad” deed with Ukraine)) as it turned out, no one was going to protect her because of the puddle and the relationship was without obligations)

[Clear]

Quote: Anchorite

gravity and time have done their "bad" deed with Ukraine))

I can even name by name and position of these Ukrainian "gravitators"

[neurostimulator]

Let's hope that it will be very popular in the future.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Anchorite

Lace panties leaked, gravity and time did their “bad” deed with Ukraine)) as it turned out, no one was going to protect her because of the puddle and the relationship was without obligations)

They will expel such an author from the Week in figs ... Without severance pay and with a "wolf ticket". He didn’t write at all what was supposed to be according to the training manual.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: NDR-791

This means not enough seven-color?

No, I think it's different.

Washington's reluctance to use the army in a situation with a Russian invasion shows the real attitude of the United States towards Ukraine.

Most likely, the large capital from the United States did not see prospects for itself and did not register in Ukraine, and the necessary military bases have not yet been deployed. That is why they do not want to arrange a big war because of an unclear future.

[ser-pov]

Quote: NDR-791

The US is overestimating Ukraine as a democratic state

This means not enough seven-color? They don't deserve protection! Look, jumpers - nothing has begun yet, and you are no longer worthy.

Everything is simple here - there is simply nothing to take from Khokhlostan .... Rather, on the contrary, the Ukrainians will pull with NATO ... If only black soil, plant a lawn near NATO headquarters ...

[75 Sergey]

Yes, because Russia is not going to conquer it!

[neurostimulator]

Very ironic.)

[75 Sergey]

You have to be careful what you say

[Clear]

Quote: 75Sergey

You have to be careful what you say

Sergey, you still need to add them to the hypostasis "officer's daughter"

[Clear]

Quote: 75Sergey

Yes, because Russia is not going to conquer it!

Yeah. The conquest still needs to be earned.

[Brturin]

They didn’t deserve the conquest, they don’t want to defend ... and somehow it’s not very good with money

Director of the Department of Open Markets of the National Bank of Ukraine (NBU) Oleksiy Lupin. - "The risk premium for Ukrainian securities grew on the external markets as well as on the domestic ones against the backdrop of growing geopolitical tensions. Moreover, on external markets, the yield of Ukrainian government bonds reached stress levels, double-digit . And, unfortunately, temporarily Ukraine lost access to external capital markets" https://tass.ru/ekonomika/13483631

[Clear]

Quote: BrTurin

They didn’t deserve the conquest, they don’t want to defend ... and somehow it’s not very good with money

Director of the Department of Open Markets of the National Bank of Ukraine (NBU) Oleksiy Lupin. - "The risk premium for Ukrainian securities grew on the external markets as well as on the domestic ones against the backdrop of growing geopolitical tensions. Moreover, on external markets, the yield of Ukrainian government bonds reached stress levels, double-digit . And, unfortunately, temporarily Ukraine lost access to external capital markets" https://tass.ru/ekonomika/13483631

[Andobor]

What is the US army in Ukraine? - Russia is a nuclear power capable of destroying the United States completely, even in Syria, the armies of Russia and the United States do not collide head-on.

[Curious Katya]

if the West cannot or does not want to protect Ukrainian democracy, then, in fact, it does not need Ukraine

I would clarify the wording - “It’s not that it’s not needed at all ... Rather, it’s needed exclusively as cannon fodder. To drag chestnuts from the fire for the Pundos is the mission of the Svidomites. But to stand up for them and climb into the Third World War for them - there are no fools! "

[neurostimulator]

The Week: Ukraine does not deserve NATO protection

So, they made Ukraine a stupid pregnant woman, waited for all the maydauns to come out, and then they wrote .. "The payment of alimony is DENIED"
The most interesting thing is that it has always been there ...
"Ah, no matter how painfully the rake beats us, but the heart, as before, believes in miracles."

[Astra55]

Like small children. They think that Russia can be kicked, called names.... Some kind of relatives. Yes, we live next door.
But those to whom Russia is not related even once and are trying to explain to overgrown idiots that Russia is a nuclear power, with, if not the first, but certainly not the second most powerful army in the world. And to fight with it - to split the planet, and this is not a metaphor.

[SKVichyakow]

They will not even defend the countries of Eastern Europe, let alone Ukraine. According to their concepts, Ukraine deserved only to start hostilities and disappear from the map as a state.

[neurostimulator]

Noticed in a timely manner. So far, everything is just beginning.

[Rusticolus]

Ukraine deserved only to start hostilities and disappear from the map as a state.

Actually, it's not that difficult. Just a few missiles on the bank in Kiev, you can even the usual conventional ones. It is unlikely that they have at least some adequate missile defense available. And the drivers, jumping with their hands, who do not die, will immediately drape to hell, taking all the money that they can reach. And for free, and without any kind of supply, even frostbitten Nazis will not fight. Looting has something to do with it, yes, but it’s very unlikely to die for the idea. And given the Khataskray mentality of the population, it will not support anyone either, it doesn’t matter to them whose slaves they are, if only they were robbed less

[Egoza]

The United States has plans for Ukraine only if they really want to remove the population from this territory. It has long been said that in connection with the volcano, which, despite all their attempts to fill it with water, continues to puff. Therefore, it is necessary to have pain no less comfortable, stable in terms of earthquakes and volcanoes, the land where you can move. Well, there will be someone left to "serve", which is why they give the opportunity to kill men in Ukraine.

[Tamparu]

You forgot one more thing. Someone once said that the territory of Ukraine is being prepared for the resettlement of people from the Promised Land ..) We need a territory, not the peoples inhabiting it ...

[Alien From]

Ukraine DOES NOT deserve anything.

[ancestors from Don]

That's what the commies did when they introduced the national territories of the derban Empire (((Originally Russian territories, watered with blood in the fight against adversaries by our ancestors in the 21st century became the subject of bargaining and the threat of the beginning of a new world ((((

[VORON538]

There, long before the communists, there was such a crap Mazepa. The communists are also to blame, or maybe there are still people with rottenness?

[Mouse]

They licked badly ... more carefully, more carefully ...

[your vsr 66-67]

It’s interesting, but in Ukraine these newspapers and VO are read? If they read, what conclusions do they draw? Or is there nothing to conclude? I think all the leadership of Ukraine is well aware that in the event of a real offensive by Russian troops, they will not last even a day, and that no one will help them with manpower. Therefore, the management is brainwashing the population, while they themselves lubricate their skis with the best lubricant!

[Egoza]

Quote: your vsr 66-67

It’s interesting, but in Ukraine these newspapers and VO are read?

Judging by the number of minusers, they read it. )))

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Egoza

Quote: your vsr 66-67

It’s interesting, but in Ukraine these newspapers and VO are read?

Judging by the number of minusers, they read it. )))

Nicholas (your Sun 66-67) he just, probably, does not know that those who have been here for more or less a long time have personal "minus" from Nezalezhnaya, sculpting sleepers without reading, for everything. Although this is prohibited by the Rules of the site. Even in terms of time in the morning, it is felt that they wake up later than, say, the Middle Volga or the Urals because of the time difference.
You just need to get used to them, like flies in a public toilet ... Inevitability.

[rocket757]

Neither the United States nor NATO are ready to send their troops to Ukraine, and sanctions against Russia have long lost their effectiveness, the author writes.

. Who did he want to convince?
Those who are supposed to know this already, but they will carry all sorts of garbage to the public ... because because. They need it like that.

[Tagan]

In all cases, when America wanted to influence events, the American army was launched to defend the US position.
America uses the army when it knows it won't shoot (or so it thinks)

[carpenter]

There is a strong possibility that the US is overestimating Ukraine as a democratic state

Well, the "desired" democracy in Ukraine, neither the US nor NATO will ever achieve. This concept is incompatible with what is happening in Ukraine.

[Emergency]

How did you not deserve it? She already crawls on her knees, all NATO garbage, read glass beads, exchanges for timber, ores, land, holds gay parades, provides cheap labor. What else do you need deprived? If Ukraine does not deserve the favor of the master, then who does?

[Alexandr bogun]

Something I am tormented by vague doubts that this is the text of the British edition.

sanctions against Russia have long lost their effectiveness

The modern vision of the situation is mainly based on the consequences of the Second World War and the Cold War. The thinking of the modern layman is trying to fit the current events into the framework of the past, dividing the whole world into white and black, where Russia is inevitably an evil empire, and Putin is a tyrant who wants to conquer the whole world.

However, this is not the case, the author claims.

Seriously? like this, right in Britain, we and the president are so loved? No matter how you look at the day, they send missiles there, build ships for them, yell all around to introduce new sanctions against us, aggressors, etc. And then just the same, "Putin is not evil"? As for me, this is either an article clearly from the wrong source that is indicated, or slightly translated into the way we would like. Let the Czechs, Serbs, Spaniards or Greeks write such things there, I would believe it, but the British? No need to mislead us, we know that the British can only spoil and this is a fact.