The Kremlin denied the discussion of the deployment of a military base in Venezuela

The Kremlin denied the discussion of the issue of placing a Russian military base on the territory of Venezuela during a telephone conversation between Putin and Maduro. This was stated by the press secretary of the President Dmitry Peskov.

According to Peskov, the presidents of Russia and Venezuela, Vladimir Putin and Nicolas Maduro, had a telephone conversation in which several topics were touched upon, but the issue of deploying a Russian military base in Venezuela was not raised. Thus, Putin's press secretary answered the corresponding question of journalists.

Peskov noted that during the conversation, many aspects of Russian-Venezuelan cooperation were discussed, but there was no specific topic. The Venezuelan Foreign Ministry, in turn, said that Vladimir Putin invited Nicolas Maduro to visit Moscow and personally discuss issues of cooperation between the countries.

Meanwhile, a couple of days ago, Putin had a telephone conversation with Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega.

It should be noted that the topic of deployment of Russian weapons on the territory of Venezuela and Cuba is quite actively raised in the Western media. There is an opinion that if the US refuses to comply with key requirements for security guarantees, Russia can place its weapons closer to US territory. Fuel is added to the fire by Russian diplomats, who, answering the question about the possible deployment of Russian missiles in Latin America, do not answer in the affirmative, but do not refute this information either.

Meanwhile, the White House is already seriously concerned about this prospect and is threatening "drastic measures" in the event that Russian weapons appear near the United States.

Comments

[rocket757]

The Kremlin denied the discussion of the deployment of a military base in Venezuela

. Why??? They would say that the issue is being considered, if only the "Hechemon" would light up somewhere, not childishly.
You might think that it could get even worse ... much worse then ???

[Vend]

Quote: rocket757

The Kremlin denied the discussion of the deployment of a military base in Venezuela

. Why??? They would say that the issue is being considered, if only the "Hechemon" would light up somewhere, not childishly.
You might think that it could get even worse ... much worse then ???

So we agreed a long time ago, we can admit that in this telephone conversation they did not discuss

[rocket757]

Any truth can be disguised as... anything.
However, the truth is not disguised, it mimics no worse.
You need to take a closer look at everything.

[fruc]

rocket757: Any truth can be disguised as... anything.

in the White House they threaten "decisive measures" in the event of the appearance of Russian weapons near the United States.

Place missiles or not, in any case it's not against the USwhy bother worrying.

[rocket757]

Well, yes, we are protecting the planet from .... alien invaders, by us.

[Normann]

Against drug cartels, of which there are a dime a dozen)

[hohohol]

anyway it's not against the US

You can still add and it's none of your business.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Shh! A military secret!

[Barberry25]

but why? "colleagues" need to be confronted with a fact, otherwise they can play dirty tricks, and even more so, who knows, maybe the truth was not discussed that day .. discussed on another

[rocket757]

Quote: Barberry25

who knows, maybe the truth was not discussed that day .. discussed on another

This is completely different .... true information, no matter how you look at it.
The devil is in the details!

[Barberry25]

well, yes, although I think this is what .. if ours are discussing a military base, and in any case, let's say 20-30 thousand soldiers, then it will be necessary to pour money into the economy, and there the bargaining will be long

[rocket757]

So, like in many places, Chinese denyushki are present and not small.
By the way, military bases are a general concept and can have a different expression in real life ... money, costs are also different.
But anyway, it's not free, these options may be different.
For example, a base, a service point for military equipment sold to that region, is a sensible and profitable business.
In general, there are a lot of options.

[Barberry25]

Well, the base will be ours, which means it will provide us, although I need to set up two bases - one in Venezuela, the other in Cuba

[rocket757]

The giraffe is big, he knows better .... we, all together, are rustling in the bushes, nothing more.

[Barberry25]

but still want to know)

[rocket757]

So, I see no obstacles ... no harm, fun.

[Orel]

Quote: rocket757

. Why??? They would say that the issue is being considered, if only the "Hechemon" would light up somewhere, not childishly.
You might think that it could get even worse ... much worse then ???

The United States has the strongest intelligence in these countries. They have long known what Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua will accept on this occasion. The United States is not afraid, they are so brave, because they know that they will not allow anything to be placed there. Chatter is everything. Therefore, ours are also silent, since to say that they have agreed means to show in advance that everything is a "bluff" and "dummy". Therefore, we "puff our cheeks" and pretend that the issue has not yet been resolved.

[rocket757]

Quote: Orel

Therefore, we "puff our cheeks" and pretend that the issue has not yet been resolved.

Don't make fun of my horseshoes...
In the art of puffing out the cheeks, with the cousins, on both sides of the Atlantic, NO ONE can compare.

[Orel]

Quote: rocket757

Don't make fun of my horseshoes...
In the art of puffing out the cheeks, with the cousins, on both sides of the Atlantic, NO ONE can compare.

I do not claim the truth. I'm interested in one thing. Why should it be important for these countries to host our weapons and be subject to a US blockade? What do they get out of it, other than the risk of getting shot or not waking up after a CIA raid?

[rocket757]

Quote: Orel

Why should it be important for these countries to host our weapons and be subject to a US blockade?

It is up to them to decide what is more, pluses or minuses.
Whether or not the days of the frantic comandantes are over is a question to which I have no answer.

[Orel]

Quote: rocket757

It is up to them to decide what is more, pluses or minuses.
Whether or not the days of the frantic comandantes are over is a question to which I have no answer.

From our weapons, especially nuclear ones, they will not receive any advantages. The US is now quite loyal to these regimes, even to Cuba. Therefore, to spoil relations for the sake of Russia, which may not even help if something happens, objectively, where are they, and where is Russia, what kind of fleet does the United States have, and what kind does Russia have. How much to Russia from there and how much to US bases. You can’t buy them with money either, they don’t all live in poverty from the top management anyway. We have nothing that we can sell them in exchange for such a step. This is the world of real politics, and our threats in this regard look very naive, if not ridiculous.

[bayard]

Quote: Orel

From our weapons, especially nuclear ones, they will not receive any advantages.

I think they can get it. This is both an increase in status, and a guarantee that Russia will defend its bases with nuclear weapons.

Quote: Orel

The US is now quite loyal to these regimes, even to Cuba.

So loyal that they regularly try to stage a coup d'état or intervene. We recall the story of the "Cuban crickets" - then, in reality, it was about a possible intervention.
It’s a sin to remind about Venezuela - everyone remembers how all caring friendly countries (Russia, China, Iran, Cuba) saved it from a coup and intervention. And this despite the fact that Venezuela has the most powerful and modern Army in the region. It was then that talk about the desirability of the appearance of a Russian base there began.

Quote: Orel

which fleet the United States has, and which one Russia has.

With the Fleet, Russia is really tight, but it’s not for us to threaten the United States with ships from there. In addition, China has quite a large fleet. And China has invested 3-4 times more investments in Venezuela than the Russian Federation. So why not take care of the protection of their assets in clubbing?
In Libya, both we and China missed the coup, were not ready, and lost all our investments, contracts and privileges.

Quote: Orel

How much to Russia from there and how much to US bases.

What "US bases" ?? There, the United States is a nuclear, which is the value of the bases in the underbelly of the United States. And it is precisely because of this closeness that one must return.
These states of Russia (and the USSR) were once saved from conquest and death. And without support from outside, they cannot maintain their independence and sovereignty.
USA?
And what can the USA give?
If everything that the United States has is brought from China?
So maybe directly - from China?
What will military bases give to those countries?
The USSR kept a consolidated corps of 40 people in Cuba. The modern contingent will be about 000 people. (if everything is deployed that is supposed to be there according to the standards of combat stability and sufficiency to strike at the USA). And this is not enough. Supply, provision, services, civilians from the locals - this is quite a lot for a rather poor Cuba.
But after the deployment of our bases there, business will be drawn there. Including tourism. And Cuba is a tourist Paradise! And other business.
And don't forget about Nicaragua.
Remember the Nicaraguan Canal project?
He was postponed.
Explain why?
Because of the US threat, because neither Russia (already) nor China (still) then had a powerful fleet to ensure the safety and security of logistics ... so China bought the Panama Canal and the project was postponed. But .
But the Panama Canal is already underperforming and overloaded , and has size limitations on ships navigable . So the question is relevant.
And China is building its fleet at an accelerated pace.
When the issue with the power plant in the Russian Federation is resolved, we will also have a considerable pace.
But since the issue of a straitjacket for the United States has already arisen ... the process can be accelerated.
Is all this interesting for the above countries of the region?
More than .
These countries can generally conclude a military alliance or join an existing defensive alliance - the CSTO.
And the United States is an outgoing nature. They themselves may fall apart in the next 2-3 years. And you should not be surprised by this.

Quote: Orel

and our threats on this matter look very naive, if not ridiculous.

I don’t know about your threats, but the threats of the Russian Federation in the USA are no longer funny. And if you have not noticed this, then look at HOW the requirements of the Russian Federation are growing with each meeting. At yesterday's meeting, they were required to remove all military bases and military presence from Bulgaria and Romania. And since there will most likely not be a positive response from the United States, then Poland, Tribaltia and ... possibly Germany will be the next requirements.
And there is little funny in such requirements ...
And they will surrender Ukraine.
Already almost passed.
The staff of the embassies are already being evacuated.

[Orel]

Quote: rocket757

It is up to them to decide what is more, pluses or minuses.
Whether or not the days of the frantic comandantes are over is a question to which I have no answer.

We must also not forget that any regime that takes such a step against the United States is doomed to face inside its country unprecedented support for any opposition to change the current government. The United States will not stand up for the price here, I think you do not need to prove this. This is another argument in favor of the fact that our presence, even at the level of an army barracks, is not beneficial and unattractive to any country in Latin America.

[rocket757]

You know better about regimes, and independent states, their leadership, will decide for themselves what they need and what they don’t need.
It's useless to break spears, they themselves ....

[Flooding]

Quote: Orel

Why should it be important for these countries to host our weapons and be subject to a US blockade?

Venezuela 15 years under sanctions.
Cuba - more than 60.

[Orel]

Quote: Flood

Venezuela 15 years under sanctions.
Cuba - more than 60.

They will consider these sanctions absent if they place our weapons, especially nuclear ones. That's when the scale of pressure on this country will be the maximum possible. For the price in the US will not stand up.

[mitroha]

Quote: Orel

For the price in the US will not stand up.

Biden relogin

[Orel]

Quote: Mitroha

Biden relogin

I doubt his knowledge and ability to communicate in Russian)))

[Orel]

Quote: Flood

Venezuela 15 years under sanctions.
Cuba - more than 60.

Another important point. Do not think that the United States sits idly by and watches how we negotiate with the Latinos. No one admits that the United States can offer counter "cookies" that will be much more interesting for these countries than the threat of falling into confrontation because of our ambitions. In general, I do not see any prospects for this threat to ours. There are no questions about Ukraine or the deployment of missiles in Kaliningrad, we can do it. It is not the first time for us to shoot in the foot of our people so that the ruling elite of our country retains power. But in Latin America, little depends on us and little that we can offer and do there. Our influence there is extremely illusory. It's one thing to let ships and planes refuel, it's another thing to launch our nuclear missiles towards us.

[Flooding]

Quote: Orel

There are no questions about Ukraine or the deployment of missiles in Kaliningrad, we can do it. It is not the first time for us to shoot in the foot of our people so that the power remains with the ruling elite of our country

this should have started
everything the Kremlin does is bad and wrong
you see, you can write much shorter and clearer

[mitroha]

Quote: Orel

It is not the first time for us to shoot in the foot of our people so that the power remains with the ruling elite of our country

Will you post copy-paste in every topic?

[Orel]

Quote: Mitroha

Will you post copy-paste in every topic?

In all topics, it’s just that in the end everything comes to a different degree of self-flagellation for our country, if this is how the dialogue is built, then there’s nothing to be done

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Mitroha

Will you post copy-paste in every topic?

+1 They got ahead.
It would be high time not to repeat yourself from the leg to rise a little higher.

[Normann]

Protection and guarantees. And what did the satellites of the Union receive?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Normann

And what did the satellites of the Union receive?

Purchases of cane sugar, cigarettes, etc. at reasonable prices.
Our agricultural equipment is also at reasonable prices.
Geographic exploration received.
Against the background of the economic blockade, this is not enough.

It seems that they received some of the intelligence.

[Barberry25]

so strong that it still has not been able to resolve the Cuban issue and stage a coup in Venezuela?

[Anachoret]

Maybe this issue is “not discussed” due to the fact that the issue has already been resolved and there is nothing to discuss there))
That's when it burns in the white house))

[rocket757]

We can't see from the couch...
Let's see, wait for the fog to clear.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: rocket757

What for??

Because it is political and correct. We are now actually putting ultimatums to NATO, and they are putting pressure on us (the same US sanctions up to smartphones and Windows), and we are putting pressure on them. Two conversations with Latin leaders is not even a signal, it is a SIGNAL, indicating that the Russian Federation is at least considering the possibility of a mirror response - the deployment of weapons near the US borders.
And this is more than enough at this stage.

[rocket757]

A good game is when the opponent does not understand what you have in mind! With such an adversary as minke whales, all methods are allowed ... they don’t limit themselves in any way, so they would get a board on faces, it would be useful for them, for a better perception of the realities that just ask to be understood.

[V means B]

And also to scare them that we will take even more of their damned dollars to them so that they die from inflation. There will be a SIGNAL, so a SIGNAL.

[V means B]

It’s funny to God with all these signals, we signal, we signal, but it’s useless, like from that goat.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: V is for B

And also to scare them that we will take out even more of their damned dollars to them so that they die from inflation

Vyacheslav, Russia's share in world trade is as much as 1,7%, so even if we all chip in here and give all the dollars we have to the United States, they won't even notice it

[ser-pov]

Quote: rocket757

The Kremlin denied the discussion of the deployment of a military base in Venezuela

. Why??? They would say that the issue is being considered, if only the "Hechemon" would light up somewhere, not childishly.
You might think that it could get even worse ... much worse then ???

So maybe they already posted it, so they didn’t discuss it .. Is this possible? Now there is no need to hide launchers, missiles and crews in the holds of ships, as it was in 1962. Everything is calmly delivered by transport aircraft, even strategic weapons ...

[rocket757]

There is a serious game and this is not a giveaway.
That's when it comes to some, then a constructive conversation can begin, and not a solo performance of one hechemon.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Duc after all, during THIS conversation, the topic was not touched upon.

[rocket757]

Maybe so, or maybe that way ... events do not stand still.
After some time, some will become clear, and then .... in short, we'll see.

[16112014nk]

The Kremlin denied the discussion ... during a telephone conversation

Well, of course we didn't discuss it over the phone. Discussed via Skype.

[DMB_95]

Maybe by phone , but they did not write about it anywhere .

[Cron]

The Kremlin denied the discussion of the deployment of a military base in Venezuela

Regardless of whether it was discussed or not, it would be strange to expect another answer

[Prisoner]

Well, that's right. Why discuss something that has long been discussed?

[tone]

Nonsense, because it was Putin who removed the bases from Vietnam and Cuba.

[V means B]

And judging by the minuses, he is not for you.

[DMB_95]

Quote: rocket757

You might think that it could get even worse ... much worse then ???

Is everything really SO bad, worse than in the States or Europe?

[Pulkovo1942]

After all, they promised to arrange a military-technical response if they refuse security guarantees. And as investors accelerated the withdrawal of capital, they do not plan to establish bases immediately.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Pulkovo1942

just as investors accelerated the withdrawal of capital, they do not plan to establish bases immediately.

Speed ​​up withdrawal? And where and what? Or maybe profits have grown, and foreign investors receive more profit? Which do you call "capital withdrawal"? Let the speculative capital be withdrawn from the stock exchange at least all. The economy is of no use to him!

[sergo1914]

Arranged for hunting/fishing.

[Maluck]

I don't understand one thing. Why are our diplomats trying to pretend to be friendly. The Americans, without any hesitation, speak without choosing special expressions, so why can't Lavrov, Ryabkov and Grushko say something emotional a couple of times, so much so that the "partners" in the membranes will ring from these words.

[ancestors from Don]

What is the point of placing bases in Cuba and Venezuela, from a military point of view, no, they will be destroyed, if only in order to indicate pressure on the "partner". More effective will be the laying of nuclear charges off the coast of the United States, remotely controlled to detonate, the tsunami wave and the Illownston Fault will do their destructive effect in the best possible way.

[Normann]

And it’s even easier to bury TYAZ under the White House)

[Daniil Konovalenko]

The Kremlin denied the discussion of the issue of deploying a military base in Venezuela, or rather the article on VO - "Cuba - the Island of Freedom on the Red Lines" ...

At the very least, the recently announced decision of Washington to tighten the economic blockade of Cuba and Russia (as well as Venezuela, Nicaragua and North Korea) is probably caused by the Pentagon's fears that messages about some Havana's application about the CSTO and the possible deployment of Russian missiles in Cuba with Venezuela is not a "fake" at all...

[Astra55]

The Kremlin denied the discussion of the deployment of a military base in Venezuela

Of course, the issue of placing 2-3 military bases was discussed.

[p0pulivox]

Write more than their regret?!

[sgr291158]

Now they took it and told everything.

[p0pulivox]

The Kremlin denied the discussion of the issue of placing a Russian military base on the territory of Venezuela during a telephone conversation between Putin and Maduro. This was stated by the press secretary of the President Dmitry Peskov.

What a horror for the local archstrategists-commentators smashing the USA and all of NATO, but we can safely assume that they will again change their shoes in the air and again announce another unprecedented victory ...

[p0pulivox]

Quote: Ancestors from the Don

What is the point of placing bases in Cuba and Venezuela, from a military point of view, no, they will be destroyed, if only in order to indicate pressure on the "partner". More effective will be the laying of nuclear charges off the coast of the United States, remotely controlled to detonate, the tsunami wave and the Illownston Fault will do their destructive effect in the best possible way.

It looks like you really are a Jedi, but then your ancestors are not from the Don...

[Free wind]

Americans are actively visiting Cuba. not expensive. girls are more accessible. and they will not sue if you accidentally patted Madame on the pope.

[Dkuznecov]

Umm. Madams there are interesting because:
1. If you are cute, then you can’t get money.
2. If you're unsympathetic, then you can't do it with money either.
Kubinka-s.
Personal experience, not broken and not rejected.
But I watched.

[senima56]

"Russia can place its weapons closer to US territory." - And rightly so! And what did the gentlemen in the USA think? They can have rockets in Romania and Poland, but we can't in Cuba and Nicaragua?! "We need to put a hedgehog in the Americans' pants!" - as one politician used to say!

[Kushka]

From Venezuela to the USA about 2 thousand km (flight time?)
Against Tallinn, Peter, as it were, is nothing.
Further - from all irons they broadcast that NATO is such and such - turns
the peoples of Poland, Romania, the Czech Republic, and of the Baltic states as suicide bombers.
This is especially eloquent in Zhirinovsky - he
He explained everything in detail to these peoples.
And now suddenly someone remembered the "fraternal" peoples in South America
- brothers, we remember you, we love you and we offer you
- Do you want to be a suicide bomber?
And what, so it is possible?

[Azimuth]

Quote: Orel

Quote: rocket757

. Why??? They would say that the issue is being considered, if only the "Hechemon" would light up somewhere, not childishly.
You might think that it could get even worse ... much worse then ???

The United States has the strongest intelligence in these countries. They have long known what Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua will accept on this occasion. The United States is not afraid, they are so brave, because they know that they will not allow anything to be placed there. Chatter is everything. Therefore, ours are also silent, since to say that they have agreed means to show in advance that everything is a "bluff" and "dummy". Therefore, we "puff our cheeks" and pretend that the issue has not yet been resolved.

Any country that agrees to host our bases and, for example, medium-range missiles, will receive a blow from the States even before our forces arrive there.

[Dkuznecov]

We have nothing to offer Venezuela and Cuba but problems.
And therefore the question "anyhow, if only" is stupid.

[1536]

There is an article in the constitution of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, where it is written in black and white that there can be no military bases of foreign states on the territory of Venezuela. And that's it. In the Washington Village Council, of course, they don’t know about this, and therefore they grind all sorts of nonsense.