Weekdays of a deputy tech: KrAZ trucks that are frozen

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“Water is dripping from under the KrAZ trucks!”


Before starting this note, I want to thank those readers of the Military Review who congratulated me on my anniversary. Sincerely glad!

So, “winter” came on the Crimean peninsula, which was accompanied by frequent storms, such as I did not observe in the Baltic in terms of power and entertainment (perhaps because I lived not on the coast, but three kilometers from it).



Sometimes it seemed that huge waves were about to overwhelm our homes and equipment. I, a native of Siberia, took my breath away from such a revelry of the elements!

It happened that it snowed, which, however, quickly melted.

Once even the temperature dropped 4-5 degrees below zero. Not for long, however, but it was precisely at that moment that a nuisance happened that disrupted my serene stay in Cossack Bay.

The same previously mentioned a spoon of tar.

The next morning, after a night frost, a soldier ran up to me and said excitedly:

“Comrade lieutenant, water is dripping from under the KrAZ trucks!”

I soon convinced myself that the soldier did not invent anything - water really dripped from under the engines of the cars.

All doubts disappeared - the water in the cooling systems froze, and the walls of the engine blocks cracked. As it thawed, the water began to drip, seeping through the cracks onto the ground.

Emergency!

At this point in the note, an important, although far from lyrical, digression must be made.

The fact is that these tractors (I didn’t remember if there were 6 or 8 of them?) were standing on the shore, and no one paid much attention to them. The factory workers did not need them in their activities, since they had a caterpillar tractor on the shore to pull the boats ashore if necessary.

But no one handed them over to me for protection and observation: neither in writing nor orally.

So they would have stood at some distance until they were loaded onto the railway transport, if my soldier had not accidentally passed by and noticed the trouble.

What to do?

I immediately turned to the factory workers.

And here it is worth noting that neither the civilians nor I - no one began to shift the blame on each other. The cars turned out to be like no one's, in a "legal vacuum", so to speak.

Everyone understood that if there had been an official trial, all the sisters would have received earrings.

The paradox of the situation was that I would have suffered materially less than the factory workers, since more than three official salaries could not be calculated from me according to the law, and the rest could well fall on their shoulders. I don’t know how much the YaMZ-238 engine cost, but probably more than my salary. And there were as many as 6 pieces (or 8)!

Home - in Kloogu


They began to decide how to get out of the situation.

When the wings were removed from the front wheels of the KrAZ trucks, they found cracks from 4 to 6 cm long in the lower part of the blocks. It was impossible to see them while these same wings were in place.

And the factory workers tell me:

"Don't worry, lieutenant! We'll fix everything!"

And the guys got to work.

First, the ends of the cracks were drilled with a 2 mm drill so that they did not increase in length.

The walls of the cooling jacket of the block are made very close, the gap between them is very small, and any careless movement would lead to through drilling of the block. Then nothing could be fixed.

But the Volzhans did not let us down.

Moreover, several threaded holes were made on both sides of the cracks with the same drill and then with a tap. Then, very carefully, the cracks were lightly cut and filled with epoxy glue. Then thin metal plates were screwed with screws under a screwdriver over the cracks. Yes, on all machines. Filled with water and checked the quality of the repair by heating and a little running.

Everything worked out, the repair turned out to be necessary!

And after the “break-in”, they sanded the protruding edges of the patch plates so that they began to look like small bulges, and finally painted over the repair sites with silver paint, almost the same color as the gray (almost white) cast iron of the cylinder block.

I looked at all this from the "height" of my short technical experience and admired.

As time went. February has come. There were no more frosts. Then March came, and there was no clarity with the dispatch of the echelon with equipment.

I gradually became this story bother. At home, in Kloog, a young wife with a little daughter, and here ...

It must be remembered that in those years it was impossible to call so easily. Already one night unloaded, returning from combat duty in the Mediterranean Sea, a regiment of marines, without letting us fall asleep until the morning, spring was already in full swing in the Crimea. And I decided this year to write a report for admission to the academy.

Once, from the post office of the military camp, I managed to send a telegram to the unit with a request to replace me, but I never received an answer.

And, tired of the uncertainty and of the Cossack Bay, I made a risky decision: to leave for Klooga on my own, under the pretext of having to pay party dues (in case of non-payment of party dues for three months in a row, a party member could be expelled from its ranks - on this I decided to play ).

Upon my arrival at the unit, they shouted at me a little, but they did not punish me, and the company commander was delighted.

But instead of me, the platoon commander from our company, Lieutenant Chivilev, left for Sevastopol, who stayed there until midsummer. And only in the summer the train with equipment finally arrived in Klooga.

I wrote a report for admission to the academy the following year, 1972, the battalion commander Major Romanenko signed it, and I began to prepare for admission.

All summer high officials traveled to our battalion, starting with the command of the Baltic District and ending with the command of the Ground Forces. And everyone wanted to see this outlandish technique in action.

At first, it was run by factory workers, but very soon a unit of boatmen appeared on the staff of the battalion, and the specialists of the manufacturer, having trained the sailors, departed home, to Navashino.

"Viru Valge"


The KrAZ trucks did not let us down, they worked flawlessly, and it never occurred to anyone to remove the wheel wings and check the integrity of the blocks.

I was silent.

The soldier who discovered the malfunctions safely retired to the reserve.

At that time, the junior lieutenant, a "two-year-old", an Estonian by the name of Rosmaa (or, possibly, Roosma), was the deputy commander of the company of floating assets (RPS), which included autotractors. He completed his service in September and retired.

And a year earlier, we agreed with him that he would sell me a cape upon his dismissal. I left mine on the train when I was on my way to my duty station in Kloogu.

He was a good guy, reliable, as, indeed, all Estonians, and there were several of them in the military camp in officer ranks. The commander of the same RPS was a captain, an Estonian named Vyahk.

Rosmaa said that a bottle of good vodka would be enough for me for a cape (after all, two years of service among Russian officers were not in vain!), And he offered me to drink it with him.

I bought a bottle of Estonian vodka "Viru Valge", deciding to please the national feelings of a drinking buddy. We had a good time, we talked sincerely. In the process of drinking under the influence of alcohol, my sense of caution was slightly dulled, and I, relying on the camaraderie of Rosmaa, decided to reveal the secret of the KrAZ trucks.

Of course, he was very surprised, but said that he didn’t care anymore, that he had already quit and was not going to return to the unit, and even more so, he was not going to hand me over.

On that we hugged and parted.

Many years have passed since then, but I still have not decided what the degree of my guilt is in the incident that happened in the Cossack Bay back in January 1971.

Sometimes I feel like it's not my fault at all, and sometimes...

To be continued ...
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  1. +25
    23 January 2022 05: 33
    Winter is coming, drain the water! If I'm not mistaken, then this is one of the basic rules of the deputy tech. In those days, antifreeze was quite enough and military vehicles used it all year round. And in the civilian world it was a deficit. So draw your own conclusions...
    1. +25
      23 January 2022 06: 08
      After draining the water, a sign "water drained" was hung on the radiator grille. And that in civilian life, that in the army. In the absence of such plates, they could also put a chimora on a mechanic or a zampotyl, and not with a finger. hi
      1. +7
        23 January 2022 07: 45
        Quote: Free Wind
        After draining the water, a sign "water drained" was hung on the radiator grille. And that in civilian life, that in the army. In the absence of such plates, they could also put a chimora on a mechanic or a zampotyl, and not with a finger. hi

        Sometimes it was hung on cars that had a faulty brake system! drinks
        Such monsters rolled out to the "review" and back strictly "to the log" - the chocks that they put where the vehicle needed to stop.
        For those who served in the Soviet and Russian armies, a wagon and a small cart are melting. Even sometimes you can’t figure out where the reality is, and where the “noodles”!
        1. +3
          23 January 2022 09: 23
          It's the same in civilian life all the time. It happens on cars and tractors. But more often on the machines there are signs "out of order". This is for TBs. After all, no one has permits for many machines and tools. Give crusts on drilling, although it is for domestic purposes. Give emery peel. Moreover, they require that the casing stand on all sides. But there are turning cutters that are sharpened only from the side on diamond wheels.
          1. +14
            23 January 2022 09: 39
            Safety precautions, like the Charter, are written in BLOOD!!!
            Have you ever seen how a grinding wheel breaks on a grinding machine? In some cases, the covers do not save! And getting a shard from half a brick is a dubious pleasure ...
            1. +7
              23 January 2022 10: 33
              Did you read what I wrote? There are turning cutters that are sharpened only on the side, on diamond wheels., There can be no protection by definition. Machine operators work in protective equipment. Glasses, each machine operator, a shield, a helmet, almost everyone. Did you know that on some machines work in gloves is prohibited?
              1. +4
                23 January 2022 10: 51
                Do not be offended, but we will not discuss metalworking on machine tools in the vastness of VO - this is off topic. I will send you a message as soon as possible.
              2. +9
                23 January 2022 14: 39
                "Do you know that on some machines work in gloves is prohibited?"
                not some, but all
        2. +9
          23 January 2022 10: 57
          We had an impressive variety of auto mechanics at our school, and I remember very well how most of these trucks “overgrown” with yellow plates with red inscriptions “water (liquid) drained” by the cold weather.
          Thanks to the author - easy to read.
    2. -1
      23 January 2022 06: 31
      Quote: aleks neym_2
      Winter is coming, drain the water! If I'm not mistaken, then this is one of the basic rules of the deputy tech.

      Actually
      But no one handed them over to me for protection and observation: neither in writing nor orally.
      1. +12
        23 January 2022 08: 52
        Quote: Seryoga64
        Actually
        But no one handed them over to me for protection and observation: neither in writing nor orally.

        Then what right did he have to disassemble the wings, repair the engines a stranger technology?

        The fact of the matter is that the cars were from his units, and the commander would have asked him why he sat quietly and watched the property of his unit perish.

        The most responsible was the soldier who noticed the disgrace and, interestingly, he had no questions -whom report an incident
        1. +4
          23 January 2022 15: 10
          Quote: Olgovich
          Then what right did he have to dismantle the wings, repair the engines of someone else's equipment?

          Strange as it may seem, but I agree with you, Olgovich. Do not touch yours, the first army postulate. And if civilians started climbing there, hahaha three times. no, to be honest, not a big "jet sweating of the engine" in the presence of materials and "crazy hands" is treated in the lungs. It's just okay if everything "on the wings" went. I had a case when the "craftsmen" froze the ZIL-131 so that it blew the wall between the 5th and 6th cylinders ... But then, again, the person responsible for this "event" was found, and it simply cannot be
          1. 0
            23 January 2022 16: 09
            Quote: Fitter65
            Do not touch yours, the first army postulate.

            This is yes.

            BUT! The cars were from HIS part.

            I served in the UNRM (mechanization) as a foreman at construction sites, and other officers of the respective sections - cranes, bulldozers and excavators - were responsible for the equipment of our unit.

            But if on a business trip (and they only worked like that), I would calmly watch from the side how the engines of equipment are defrosted our units, then from the commander and I would not be greeted ...
        2. +7
          23 January 2022 16: 47
          And what is so inviolable in these wings? They don't put seals on them. Yes, and the repair was not done by me, but by the factory workers. And one more thing: why the hell would my soldier go to report not to me, but to someone else? Yes, the equipment located in the regular parking lot has all the signs that are required in this case. Looking ahead, here's another case for you. In the early 80s, I served as 'BTS division in the Amur region. If anyone does not know, winter sets in there in mid-October, and not the same as in Crimea, but real, with frosts over 30. And so, in the second half of October, a train with 18 infantry fighting vehicles from Czechoslovakia arrives to staff the division (tpm was a factory, v
          1. +6
            23 January 2022 16: 58
            who issued them). So, all the cars were filled with water! On the steering wheels hung signs with the text that the machines were filled with water. All 18 of the newest cars were unfrozen. Who's guilty? No one! Because in Czechoslovakia in September, when they were shipped, the temperature was over 20 plus, and while the train was traveling for a month and a half through Russia, winter came.
            1. 0
              24 January 2022 11: 30
              Dear Fedor, there is always a guilty person. In your case, this is the operating body of the host country and the GABTU. To organize interaction through the GABTU - I understand, for the combat unit - Newton's binomial. But there is also the Military District. I myself have encountered countless times with a disregard for weapons and military equipment. From personal practice - they sent the chief engineer of the division (zampotkh) as the head of the guard of the armored personnel carrier to carry it for overhaul. Upon request, this trash was completed with everything, including the R-173. When the deliverer arrived - he saw only the plundered buildings - the locals were almost completely stripped. When they started asking questions to the deputy head of the technical department, your equipment was also there, lesson, you could at least seal everything up and hand it over to the locals - bulged your eyes, bulged your mustache and gave out: I took n-th number of units under protection, and handed over the same number!
              1. +3
                24 January 2022 11: 48
                Aha! No matter how! For some 32 years I have not remembered a single case where the governing body took the blame, at least not publicly. And in matters of acceptance and transmission, a simple rule works: what you sign for, you are responsible for. If only for the number of cars - for the number and answer, and not for their completeness.
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            2. +1
              27 January 2022 08: 19
              In the second half of the 90s I served in the Volga-Urals district. We received a similar KrAZ from the repair plant after a major overhaul. I do not remember either from Syzran, or from Ulyanovsk. In general, a repaired tractor came to us, but .... with a broken frame! In the process of loading onto the platform, it was very firmly attached. The frame cracked. Then for a long time they figured out who was on the loading, wrote acts, and so on.
      2. +4
        23 January 2022 17: 39
        Quote: Seryoga64
        But no one handed them over to me for protection and observation: neither in writing nor orally.

        There is no signed paper, there is no punishment, but if the craftsmen made repairs on their own initiative, then they are honored and praised.
    3. +1
      23 January 2022 09: 18
      Fighting vehicles were refueled with water. There were only combatants with antifreeze, which were used to provide the regiment in peacetime
      1. +4
        23 January 2022 14: 43
        "Fighting vehicles refueled with water"
        at military vehicles in storage, coolant always merged. and the linemen had what the zampotech would find
        1. +1
          23 January 2022 15: 09
          There was a special water heater, in which a supply of hot water was maintained all the time in winter, and it was flooded on alarm.
          At the usual time in winter, we went there to take a shower.
        2. +5
          23 January 2022 19: 14
          and here it is not. I served urgently in 77-79. The driver of the BMD-1. My car belonged to the combat group, i.e. with a parachute system on the armor, full ammunition in the car (except for ATGMs), filled with all the prescribed liquids. In spring, antifreeze was drained and water was poured with a three-component additive (so that scale would not form in the cooling system), in the fall, on the contrary.
      2. +4
        23 January 2022 16: 23
        Quote: Avior
        Fighting vehicles were refueled with water. There were only combatants with antifreeze, which were used to provide the regiment in peacetime

        Do not laugh worn shoes. Everything was filled with water until 2010, while I served and visited the a / park, there was a separate room called a water and oil heater - there was always a supply of hot water for an emergency departure of a mobile group ..
        1. +1
          23 January 2022 16: 36
          And what did I write about?
          There were utility vehicles with antifreeze - a duty room and a couple more.
      3. 0
        23 January 2022 19: 42
        Quote: Avior
        Fighting vehicles were refueled with water. There were only combatants with antifreeze, which were used to provide the regiment in peacetime

        And where were the combat trucks, I wonder? In the ATT, in addition to armored personnel carriers, equipment was divided into combat, transport and training.
        1. -1
          24 January 2022 00: 27
          They stood in the car park, where else could they be
          1. +2
            25 January 2022 18: 57
            Quote: Avior
            They stood in the car park, where else could they be

            I don't want to sound ill-mannered, but once again - there were no combat trucks in the SA. There were combat (those that were in storage in the boxes), transport and training. Sorry for the clarification drinks
            1. -1
              25 January 2022 19: 19
              I won’t argue, we called them combat ones - those who went out on alarm, hardware and others, the rest of the time they stood in the park, and combatants - those who participated in daily support - they carried shifts on duty, property and so on.
              Maybe formally it's wrong, but that's what they called it. It was a communications regiment.
              1. +1
                27 January 2022 08: 24
                . combatants - those who participated in everyday support - shifts on duty were transported, property, and so on.

                You probably meant the transport group. It was this group of equipment that usually performed all the daily work. The bumper was painted with a white stripe on the side.
                1. -1
                  27 January 2022 08: 38
                  It didn’t concern me directly, but oral speech was voiced in this way, at least that’s how I remember it.
                  I can be wrong, I will not argue, it was a long time ago.
                  That the fighting were, unequivocally.
                  Actually, I wrote about something completely different - about which ones were filled with antifreeze, and which ones were filled with water.
    4. +5
      23 January 2022 15: 36
      Firstly, winter in the Crimea and winter in the middle lane are a big difference. Secondly, "in those days and in the army, antifreeze was such a valuable product that even battle tanks were refueled with it only for the winter period, and in the spring it was drained and replaced with water with a three-component additive. What can we say about cars! About them - always in last turn
      1. +1
        23 January 2022 18: 20
        Quote: Fedorov Fedor
        Firstly, winter in the Crimea and winter in the middle lane are a big difference.

        And in Estonia, winter is always not a gift.
        This is how Klooga looks now. Yes, and from Kloogarann ​​too .......
    5. +3
      23 January 2022 15: 42
      Firstly, "in those days" and in the army, antifreeze was a valuable product and only battle tanks were refueled with it only for the winter, and for the summer they were changed to water with a three-component additive. Secondly, winter in the Crimea and winter in the middle lane are different concepts.
    6. +1
      23 January 2022 16: 04
      I answered you. Search below.
  2. +9
    23 January 2022 07: 17
    It must be remembered that in those years it was simply impossible to call
    No offense to the author, but you can immediately see how the deputy commissar differed from the signalman in those days. drinks In the 80s, I periodically called my aunt from the SGV, we didn’t have a telephone at home in the village. so by callsign, I went to the switchboard Autostrada -Zyoma yomayo give the city a couple of seconds. No, honestly, signalmen are signalmen. especially in those days, it was then that mobile phones slightly shook their significance, and so a phone in an apartment, in a military camp, it was cool. What if it works all the time? laughing laughing good
    1. +4
      23 January 2022 11: 18
      phone in the apartment, in a military camp it was cool

      It was very hemorrhoids, especially if you are a young starley and live near the division headquarters. No weekends, no private life!
      Just relax - “Arrive urgently, field uniform, you will go from the ZKD to the field exit” ...
      hi
      1. +3
        23 January 2022 13: 46
        Quote: OldMichael
        Just relax - “Arrive urgently, field uniform, you will go from the ZKD to the field exit” ...

        Well, do not tell slippers, if something where to go, and so on, so forth was done according to the order, and the presence of a telephone did not cancel the fact that a messenger would come running with the same good news. The phone was usually set not to anyone, that we could put this number on the vacation of this person to someone if there were free pairs and so on, but this was not deeply notified. I, a senior warrant officer, as the head of the communications center had an automatic telephone exchange, the platoon commander of the RTO lived on the floor above, he had only a messenger. Moreover, the duties of this messenger were sometimes performed by my wife or me, until the soldier ran from the airfield ... A simplified version was called to my number with a question - but you can’t call / pass on? TLF at that time was purely for alerting operational services. And if you happen to go to the wrong place, then it doesn’t matter if you have a phone or not, you relaxed or just thought up, you will go, and all these trips are planned in advance, unexpectedly only introductory and other troubles come that need to be resolved promptly. Like a drunk tractor driver was plowing and accidentally tearing away 150 meters of a telephone cable on a plow, or a grandmother cut 25 meters into a town - damn the phone is not Arbeiten, but you are already eliminating it ... So it was not the phone in the apartment that was to blame for the lack of personal life, and choice of profession. By the way, the "citizens" who served the life of the garrison / military camp had telephones. and not only one automatic telephone exchange, but also a direct one - to a long-distance communication switch, not every head of the service had this ...
        1. +1
          23 January 2022 14: 03
          Well, do not tell slippers, if something where to go, and so on, so forth was done according to the order, and the presence of a telephone did not cancel the fact that a messenger would come running with the same good news. The phone was usually put not to anyone

          Indeed, not just anyone.
          All officers of the instructor group of the division were given telephones at once by order of the CD, when the messenger could not lure out of the house the only free instructor who was not at the next field exit (and since 1987, in accordance with the order of the Civil Code, an instructor and a representative of the GI service are present at every movement of military equipment outside the COIN, and no additional orders are required for this).
          And if someone from the command wants to go to the fields, inspect what is there and how, then he will definitely take the instructor with him, and no plans can foresee this.

          Perhaps your slippers themselves are so funny? Then im (+).
          hi
          1. +1
            23 January 2022 16: 28
            Quote: OldMichael
            And if someone from the command wants to go to the fields, inspect what is there and how, then he will definitely take the instructor with him, and no plans can foresee this.

            Well, if you lived in the fields all the time, then oh. We are the people of heaven, we were closer and closer to the airfield, so some things may differ in understanding. but again, a simple starley in those days was not put on the phone. especially if he's not a communicator. hi
            1. 0
              23 January 2022 18: 04
              Well, if you lived in the fields all the time

              Live - did not live, but dangled constantly. There are five people in the group together with the chief, something is constantly moving in the fields, up to three divisions every day.
              Plus a few more obligatory presences in the shelves during the day at the PPD.
              Here it would be more useful not to have a home phone, but some kind of trunk "Altai" in an UAZ (I had a GAZ-69), like the chairman of a collective farm. There was such an idea, but the special officers did not like it much ... hi
        2. +1
          27 January 2022 08: 29
          . The phone was usually put not to anyone

          In closed ganisons (I mean secure, remote units), office phones were required to be placed on all officers and ensigns. In the event of an alarm, the duty officer in the unit began to dial 000 on the remote control. All of their home phones went off at the same time from the switchboard ..
    2. +2
      23 January 2022 16: 07
      Well I do not know! For the first time the telephone appeared in my apartment when I was in the position of the regiment
  3. +3
    23 January 2022 07: 21
    platoon commander from our company, Lieutenant Chivilev,
    To be honest, in 2005 a young young lieutenant named Lyokha came to us, by the name of Chivilev !!! Communications platoon leader. I lived on the third floor, he got a hut on the opposite laughing good I retired in 2015, he received a captain. At the end of last year, they accidentally ran into each other in the town - Major ... drinks
    battalion commander major Romanenko
    At least laugh, and we had a deputy technical officer, though the captain, but Romanenko. good
    1. 0
      24 January 2022 02: 10
      You're all greenhorns, no offense be said))) I would tell you as the commander of the ORS RTO and OBS RTO, but too lazy ... How they dragged P-45 around Nerchinsk in 274-degree frost to put the phone ...
      1. 0
        24 January 2022 07: 17
        Quote: avia12005
        How they dragged P-45 around Nerchinsk in a 274-degree frost to put the phone ...

        Well, we carried this field worker on field trips both at -45 and at +35, I had two coils in the control room. So there was nothing surprising.
      2. 0
        27 January 2022 20: 45
        Quote: avia12005
        You're all greenhorns, no offense be said))) I would tell you as the commander of the ORS RTO and OBS RTO, but too lazy ... How they dragged P-45 around Nerchinsk in 274-degree frost to put the phone ...

        It’s shameless to be a rookie - everything happens for the first time). But I know for sure that you can’t imagine an infantry training company at a field exit at -50. Weapons, equipment, these damned infantry fighting vehicles, communications equipment - all this should work, and l / s should perform their tasks and remain healthy at the same time. This is tin! I was lucky to serve in different types and branches of the troops, including the Air Force, which I love very much, but the infantry in Elani amazed me. It was 86.
  4. +11
    23 January 2022 07: 30
    Of course it's to blame, HERE IT IS NECESSARY TO CHECK. moreover, at KRAZ there are 3 taps for draining water, two on the sides on the block and one on the water pump, and it also happened to be drained from the stove. In civilian life, the driver is responsible for the car. KRAZ machine is not a fountain, a gas chamber to be honest. The only thing he was praised for was the excellent YaMZ-238 engine and the indestructible frame. there the channel seems to be under 20 mm thick wassat . At MAZs, frames often twisted into a propeller. Well, then .... A huge number of cardans, and all the unbalanced vibration is very good. strong and all strive to fall off. And they are serious infections. The Yamz-236 checkpoint is its brand, rather unsuccessful, in fact, and still its resource is small. Bridges are neither this nor that, but they have one joke, broken axle shafts, they are changed together. With a stick for everyone. On each side, the axle shaft is unscrewed, the broken part is clamped with sticks on both sides and gently pushed out. There is a large distance between the gearbox and the body and debris, if you push one out, fell into the inside of the body. well, imagine what 5 kg of iron dangling inside will do. CABIN!!!!!! SONG!!!! Wooden metal. Where there were many KRAZs, they kept a sawmill for repairing cabins. Do not believe the stories about the fact that the drivers burned a fire from the wood of the cabin and thus escaped, whether these sheep were testers even from Kubinka, even from round. Steering sucks, very heavy. Clutch booster, well, to hell with it. . But with all this, the guys in the army liked it. The hood is huge, buzzes, shakes, rides itself, the steering wheel is huge. I'm exaggerating a little, but almost a meter in diameter. In civilian life, the men cursed, but they worked. They made their own changes in order to at least somehow make their life easier, then you need to earn money. drinks
  5. +10
    23 January 2022 07: 49
    The cars turned out to be like no one's, in a "legal vacuum", so to speak.

    Dear Author! I have a few questions. In a previous article you write;
    At the very end of the same 1970, they call me to the headquarters of the battalion and give the order to depart for the city of Sevastopol with the task take a set consisting of several T-62 tanks (someone wrote that there were 4 tanks, but 3 were imprinted in my memory), two boats for each, two KrAZ-255 vehicles - truck tractors to transport these boats, and escort them by rail to Kloogi as the head of the guard.

    As far as I understand, you saw your predecessor already in the battalion, he has already returned to the unit. Did you sign for accepting a set of equipment from your predecessor ???, if so, then you are to blame, you accepted it in good condition, and then unfrozen it, if not, then both are to blame, he did not pass, you did not accept. There is no legal vacuum.
    Well, the factory workers are great, you are lucky and your shift worker too, with respect good hi
    1. +5
      23 January 2022 09: 23
      Quote: Anatol Klim
      There is no legal vacuum.

      To be honest, sometimes there are such interesting cases. In the late 90s, we, from Nikolaevsk-on-Amur, were given the equipment of a balloon company. She walked from the mouth of the Amur to us in Komsomolsk-on-Amur (Khurba, although the barge was stuck in Pivani - well, that's not the point) for a month and a half. on the same barge there were containers with personal belongings of the personnel of the unit. this barge was accompanied by one captain and 4 ensigns. I won’t lie about the container, everything rank by rank left, but it wasn’t important for us. But with the technique came an interesting moment. Our battalion commander arrived, Lieutenant Colonel V.V. Lashko, the captain gives him a pack of forms and other documents and says. If you want to accept a herd, if you want to count every hawk and puck according to the form, but I’ve been a civilian for two weeks now, and we didn’t accompany equipment on this barge, that is, she didn’t care about this equipment at all, he just brought documents like a messenger, but containers with things . That is, they were all do not care. So we really saw the rear axle of the ZIL-130 through the radiator grill, more precisely, six ZILs and two GAZ-66s. Well, one uncle from the 11th Air Force and Air Defense arrived there with the rank of colonel and began to wave his saber, but it turned out everything was simple, even funny to the point of a joke. Deciding to save money on VOHRA, this comrade did not come up with anything smart. but I decided that it would be easier for the military to take out their property on this barge, the place allows, than to pay for the export of this property as it should be through VOSO, and like they will guard the equipment as a guard. Well, fools in Russia are really in store for centuries, especially among those who are at the top. I won’t lie about how or with what this “economist” reported there, paid, compensated, but this equipment (under his seals) stood in our park for almost a year. The investigators + the prosecutor's office periodically came to see what to whom, where and how to put it in ... So, as the respected says, there is no vacuum Anatole Klim really does not happen and there is an extreme in any case. So, by the way, just in case, I still have my certificates of acceptance and transfer of equipment, even though I have already retired 6,5. And the RRS, which was listed behind me, is still listed in the regiment and is working, so let's not be lala, robyaty. laughing good
      1. +3
        23 January 2022 09: 31
        Quote: Fitter65
        Well, fools in Russia are really in store for centuries, especially among those who are at the top.

        good
        So there really is no vacuum, and there is an extreme one anyway.

        Thank you, I read your comment with interest hi
      2. +1
        23 January 2022 14: 46
        Quote: Fitter65
        from 11 Air Force and Air Defense

        Here I lied, I confess, then there was still the 1st Air Force Army. recourse
      3. +7
        23 January 2022 16: 22
        And I retired 25 years ago and, unfortunately, I haven’t kept any acts, so I don’t sleep well and I’m still waiting for someone to come for me.
      4. +3
        23 January 2022 16: 26
        I answered you below.
    2. +6
      23 January 2022 14: 01
      That's just the point, that nobody signed any documents! I, apparently, in the process of discussion will finally come to the recognition of my guilt.
    3. +6
      23 January 2022 15: 54
      The technique, as I now understand, I had to accept from the factory workers. Guys, what details do you expect from me after 50 years? Including legal ones. I now think that the factory workers would not have approached these ill-fated KrAZ trucks if they had been handed over to me.
    4. +3
      23 January 2022 16: 09
      I answered you. Look below.
  6. +1
    23 January 2022 08: 00
    Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
    ... for the sake of aesthetics, glue with tape ...

    belay
  7. +2
    23 January 2022 11: 27
    At minus 6, even at -10 ° C, the block at the YaMZ will not break, this is nonsense. maximum radiator. And the fact that the crack was patched up ... so this is a "miracle" for a simple layman, but for a driver it's not God knows what a phenomenon. To remove, repair and put back the checkpoint at 504 MAZ, alone, on the Kazakh steppe in winter - this is truly professionalism. And the crack... is nonsense. It would be surprising if the technicians in the army did not know this.
    1. +7
      23 January 2022 14: 05
      The radiators weren't damaged. Perhaps the water was drained from them, there is usually a separate tap there. And about the "nonsense" ... what can I say. For more than half a century I have been "delirious".
      1. +3
        23 January 2022 14: 10
        It's probably not about you, but about the fact that the frost was apparently more ... below 10. I also missed a couple of dozen on these motors and I know what I'm talking about. By the way, it is strange that water was drained from the radiator, but not from the block ... although anything can happen in the army.
      2. +1
        23 January 2022 15: 19
        Not much off topic, but I came across people whom I trust, there was a case that after draining the water, in general, not all of it drained and a crack appeared near the tap, they successfully coped, I personally had 130 ZIL, the stove thawed, although the water was drained and after that I started the car just in case, there was no punishment, the stove was soldered (the lower tank broke a little). After that, he also blew the system with the pulmonary method. All this was in civilian life. And this happened already in February, that is, the scale should have been washed long ago.
        1. 0
          23 January 2022 16: 25
          You have to be careful with the faucets on the block. Corrosion forms inside or something gets in when pouring water, it was necessary to clean it regularly. I didn’t drain the water on the GAZ-53, and at night it was about -12 °. In the morning I came - the pump is not spinning, the faucets are stuck. I poured the pump (water pump) with warm water, started the engine with the pump belt removed, i.e. there was no circulation, the water in the block quickly heated up and the fan did not drive cold air to the radiator, respectively, and the generator did not work. You can do this for a short time, the gaskets under the block heads can burn out. The water from the faucets of the block went out, the pump started spinning, circulation started, in short, everything worked out. When working on water, thermostats were mostly removed from new cars - there were less hemorrhoids in winter.
        2. +2
          23 January 2022 17: 57
          It used to be defrosted, especially the radiator cells, since they were copper and soldered in any garage, due to the fact that they were corny clogged with dirt. It could also defrost the block. But in general, yes ..., fortunately, the times of water in motors are gone ..., right now this is already a rarity. Gkmor was in the winter ... although the drivers were more literate, because they knew how the car works, especially if the breakdowns went through out of hand. There aren't many drivers now...
    2. +4
      23 January 2022 14: 09
      Quote: samosad
      At minus 6, even at -10 ° C, the block at the YaMZ will not break, this is nonsense.

      If it is short-term, for 5-6 hours, like overnight, then you are right, if it is within a week, then it is quite possible. In our case, the water was drained from the cars, and they dried out from the units in the kung (GAZ-21 engines), on the night the frost -21 hit, we arrive in the morning, well, the platoon in the unit went and went crazy, really, the radiator caps squeezed out, over the filler necks "fungi "they launched the OVashka, warmed up the KUNG units, the units thawed out, honestly, they managed to do it with a slight fright, but if they had stood still, it was possible that both blocks and radiators would have exploded. It turned out well, in the evening they warmed up, in KUNGA the heat did not completely go away, and in the morning they came on time ...
      1. +1
        23 January 2022 14: 36
        Yes, of course, it immediately squeezes out traffic jams, but even a weekly "freeze" at -6, especially in the Crimea, could not break the YaMZ block. I think that the author forgot, or for a short time the frost pressed below 10.
      2. +4
        23 January 2022 16: 12
        A strong wind can also be considered an aggravating circumstance.
      3. -1
        24 January 2022 10: 06
        In the full sense, the engines on Gaz-63 were ideal. There were wooden plugs on blocks. If someone forgot to drain the water, or it did not completely drain, they were simply squeezed out. I'm surprised no one has written about this. smile
        1. 0
          24 January 2022 11: 31
          Quote: avia12005
          In the full sense, the engines on Gaz-63 were ideal. There were wooden plugs on blocks. If someone forgot to drain the water, or it did not completely drain, they were simply squeezed out. I'm surprised no one has written about this. smile

          So many GAZ-63s have only been seen in pictures. The GAZ-66 also had blocks in the blocks, but not wooden ones. To be honest, after 92, I only had ZiLs, and Ural -375. GAZ-66s were in a different platoon ...
          1. 0
            24 January 2022 11: 41
            In 1984, in Transbaikalia, I still found a pair of R-118s on Gaz-63 ....
            1. +1
              24 January 2022 11: 55
              Before that, I saw 63 in civilian life. When in 1988 he came to Khurba as a replacement, there were several control rooms on the GAZ-63 chassis on the basis of NZ. R-401 or 403 I don’t remember exactly. And in 1989 I left for the virgin lands, when I returned at the end of September. then they were no longer written off, then we also wrote off the last GAZ-69 ...
              1. -1
                24 January 2022 11: 56
                Yes, they didn't exist in the late 80's.
                1. +1
                  24 January 2022 12: 03
                  Now the GAZ-66 is becoming a rarity in wars. ZILs are still running at the airport, and this is because the specialists are air, oxygen and others. although, out of quiet sadness, they also change to KamAZ and Urals. In the summer I saw how KPMs were unloaded from platforms on the ramp, based on biaxial Urals.
                  1. 0
                    24 January 2022 12: 05
                    It seems that everything is being transferred to diesel fuel, but if there is no starting heater, it is much more difficult to start them in frost ()
                    1. +1
                      24 January 2022 12: 07
                      Well, the airfield is not silenced in winter, but yes, everything with pre-launch units is also diesel ...
    3. +5
      23 January 2022 16: 02
      You have too high an opinion about army technicians. Even civilian
      A driver is not born a master, but acquires skills and abilities over the years. Let me remind you that it was the third year of my service as a deputy technical officer of a tank (and not an automobile) company. Over the years, I, through bruises and bumps, gained experience. This case
      - at the very beginning of acquiring such experience.
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  8. +4
    23 January 2022 12: 18
    Anatole Klim (Anatoly), dear, there is another moment that you did not remember. Ticket. Cars, tanks and boats want to eat every day. Fuel and lubricants must be written off by kilometers or hours. And you need to get them every day. They refueled the equipment: who, where and according to what documents? They wrote off the consumption of fuel and lubricants: who, where and according to what documents? Apparently the author forgot these moments, how many years have passed ....
    1. +3
      23 January 2022 14: 07
      What kind of tours can there be on the seashore when the cars were not moving anywhere?
    2. +3
      23 January 2022 14: 38
      Quote: Tests
      Cars, tanks and boats want to eat every day. Fuel and lubricants must be written off by kilometers or hours. And you need to get them every day.

      Sorry, I don't agree. Such an example, in May at the airfield they gave the command to deploy the RSP-10, we had it on three 131th exits, we arrived and installed it, after a couple of days the flyer checked everything with a bunch, but drained the water from the cars, it’s good one person remembered that the cars were driving, in October. And about the SKP-11 based on the ZIL-130, they remembered only when they began to transfer it, how in July they drove it from the park, after the maintenance of the car, so it stood an orphan for 2 years, so there is no problem at all about receiving / decommissioning fuel and lubricants. My friend had a diesel Fawn, it is a little expensive to go fishing for 300 miles, but there is one caveat. I have a deployed reserve US R-409MA based on the ZIL-131 + a pair of R-140s, one M on the same 131, the second D on the GAZ-66, the "owner of the padzherik" itself has a repair shop based on the same 131. How to get diesel fuel? Yes, easy .. As they say once in a cold winter season, only the temperature began to drop to minus: "I ask for stable and trouble-free operation to provide the listed PCT with diesel fuel for the operation of the OV-65 heater ... according to my documents, the OVashka worked 24 hours a day , up to 40 liters per month with the hardware came out. By May, we had almost 800-900 liters of solarium, and this was with 3 (three) carburetor ZILs and one Shishigi ... About how to wind a speedometer in general is childhood, especially considering that my station threshes for days ... And the commander of the UAZ has a limit, and he dangled around the airfield for a week of flights burned. Well, the fact that the ABshki were checked for emergencies daily and not for 5 minutes. this is understandable, but also a field US a couple of times "traveled" a month ... never starting engines
      1. -1
        24 January 2022 02: 15
        You weren't subordinate to me ..))
  9. -10
    23 January 2022 12: 52
    This is not a zampotech, but a cork from a bottle. one word. it’s a pity that he doesn’t sit for the decommissioning of army equipment.
    1. +9
      23 January 2022 14: 12
      I confess, I should have gone to the military prosecutor's office and confessed everything. I would have served a long time and lived on with a clear conscience. It is necessary to hold such comments, he asked for it.
  10. +1
    23 January 2022 12: 57
    In March 1982, he took part in exercises in a tank regiment of the "cadr" type with the involvement of personnel from the reserve. In our sapper company, only the head of the engineering service, Major Alexander Nikolayevich Suvorov, was a personnel officer. The commander of the company, senior l-nt of the reserve, Andrey Poluyakhtov, a TVIKU vyvusknik, an order bearer. After college, for several years he cleared various mines, shells and air bombs at the battlefields of the Great Patriotic War. For this work he was awarded. The officers were called up for the exercises a week earlier than the rest of the l / s. In total, five reserve officers and a foreman of the company equipped a tent for the winter residence of the entire company. And then they began to prepare equipment to bring it out of the park to the spare area. On the grills of cars hung signs "Water drained." We received antifreeze in sealed canisters at the warehouse. Three of them contained gasoline. Apparently, the previous partisans privatized the antifreeze that was in short supply at that time. With a big scandal, Suvorov ensured that the missing amount was given out from the warehouse ... Well, after the exercises, the reverse operation was carried out, they were poured into canisters. And again the shortage was about 20 liters. And we did the same, filled the canister with gasoline and sealed it.
  11. +3
    23 January 2022 15: 18
    Execute can not be pardoned lol hi Yes, do not worry, there have been worse shoals feel
  12. +1
    23 January 2022 16: 00
    Fedorov Fedor (Fyodor), dear, I understand that so many years have passed, but the driver is obliged to keep the equipment fully combat-ready, including refueling. There is not a word in the text who the soldier was, who discovered the dripping water - the driver who accepted the Laptezhnik or just passed by. Or, nevertheless, the cars were still behind the factory and they were serviced by drivers from the factory. Most likely - factory, otherwise why should representatives of the factory repair them? They would say right away: "Lieutenant, you accepted the cars, the drivers actually accepted them - your problems." Yes, and the text clearly says: "But no one handed them over to me for protection and observation: neither in writing nor orally." After all, when receiving a car, the driver must drive at least 300-500 meters on it, and sort out the tool with handles, check its actual presence. No one has yet been able to change the wheel on the KrAZ with bare hands. And the zampotech get all the documents transferred to all the equipment, look through all the pages, check all the numbers, force the drivers to start the equipment again and make a small circle, and check all the lights, but don’t forget to check the wipers, the wheel inflation system, hook - something and unhook (after all, a tractor), but drive up a steep hill and at least check the handbrake. And only after that, and only sign the act of acceptance and transfer of equipment ... That is why I am writing again - half a century has passed ... Otherwise, how to teleport KrAZ to the railway. platforms to go home to the ESSR if it does not start, and does not start just because the tanks are dry? And two days ago the tanks were full, the driver did not drain and did not sell the solarium to the side - who drained it? Or did someone remove the injection pump and sell it? But the officer did not understand where his soldiers found money and ate homemade Crimean wine five days ago? And the tanks, as they were full and sealed, so the seals were not damaged ....
    1. +3
      23 January 2022 16: 17
      How many at once! You want such details from me half a century later! It is quite possible that the one who replaced me in the Crimea did just that.
      1. +6
        23 January 2022 17: 09
        Dear readers and interlocutors! I did not expect such lively reviews and comments on my note! I do not agree with everyone, but thank you all! I realized that the topic of using equipment in the army is of interest, so I plan to dedicate some memories to it, how and by what rules military equipment was operated, stored, repaired and maintained 50 years ago.
  13. +3
    23 January 2022 16: 36
    Fitter65 (Alexander.), dear, in Russia and in the USSR everything is possible! Yesterday, in the comments in the "Opinions" section to the "Loss of a Pistol" article, they wrote about the glorious either Soviet or Russian police, saying that they drowned a holster in the point of a direct fall toilet and took a search magnet from experts - they got it ... In the summer of 1984, the officer on duty base headquarters, which served 121 guards. The Red Banner Sevastopol tbap in the village of Machulishchi, Minsk Region, I don’t remember how long ago it was, either the head of food, or the head of the thing, left the main building of the base headquarters and went to his service. And the second building was located 50 meters to the west, now it has the address of st. Molodyozhnaya, 30, it houses the Minsk district of electrical networks, and then in the southern part of the building there were clothing, food, financial service, service class and a special department, in the middle part - a fire brigade and from the west boxes of fire trucks, in the northern parts - the commandant's office of the garrison and the guardhouse. From the south, closer to the road - under a birch, maple and chestnut trees - a smoking room and a toilet for 2 points of direct fall. Here is the officer on duty, sitting down to think about the service, and dropped the holster with the PM into the point, on the right side was - the belt was unfastened - the result was received. He ran to the foreman of the fire brigade, begged for a hook - after 10 minutes he got it. I washed both the hook and the holster with PM in a foaming agent ... Did you use the 8T-210 crane based on the Ural-375? The winter consumption rate of AI-93 was 100 liters per 100 km. Everyone who had a Zhiguli in the garrison respected the crane operator. A holy man, almost like ensign Mokharev, who was the driver of an alcohol truck. Togo knew the base, the regiment, the communications division, the "deaf-mutes" that they were guarding and preparing nuclear munitions (greenhouses have been in place of storage facilities and technical positions for many years), the entire 201 IAP that stood along with the "long-range" at the Machulishchi airfield, their ABATO , VSO, which were stationed in Machulishchi, and went to work in Minsk. In the Tu-22, "swords" had to be filled with 400 liters. And in the hose, after refueling the aircraft, exactly a liter remained.
    1. +1
      27 January 2022 12: 04
      Quote: Tests
      Did you operate the 8T-210 crane based on the Ural-375? The winter consumption rate of AI-93 was 100 liters per 100 km.

      No, we did not have a tap in the state. We had enough P-537 and R-412, both based on 375, plus an aggregate from the R-412 based on the same Ural-375. The crane operator was respected on a completely different occasion, the fact that he could write off another canister is one thing. About the "deaf-mute" I can say one thing, they always had their own faucet and alcohol. Therefore, your crane operator with PPR, like the alcohol carrier, they were in the barn. How much alcohol they were supposed to have was how much your "alcohol truck" gave them, and even if it doesn't add a gramulka ... It's like the signalmen on the regulations of the ZASovtsy try not to add. Yes, it could be bugged to radio operators, relay operators and others. There was no "division" in part, of course, because "liquid currency" is "currency". So, if I had a neighbor on the first floor, Seryoga, a contract worker, a crane operator with a PPR, also a very respected person after the head of the position, then a crane is necessary, and if the crane operator agrees, then the issue is resolved with his boss. And considering that the work was not planned, the “customer” got gasoline for the operation of the crane, it’s familiar. hi
  14. +4
    23 January 2022 18: 02
    Before starting this note, I want to thank those readers of the Military Review who congratulated me on my anniversary. Sincerely glad!
    Comrade Colonel! Allow me to join.
    Happy anniversary! Hooray! Hooray! Hooray! soldier
  15. 0
    23 January 2022 18: 49
    Some nonsense.
    There, the plugs in the block squeeze out and the frost should be hoo! And 6..8 degrees minus is only 130 afraid, he has a thin block
  16. 0
    23 January 2022 19: 49
    Quote: Fitter65
    It must be remembered that in those years it was simply impossible to call
    No offense to the author, but you can immediately see how the deputy commissar differed from the signalman in those days. drinks In the 80s, I periodically called my aunt from the SGV, we didn’t have a telephone at home in the village. so by callsign, I went to the switchboard Autostrada -Zyoma yomayo give the city a couple of seconds. No, honestly, signalmen are signalmen. especially in those days, it was then that mobile phones slightly shook their significance, and so a phone in an apartment, in a military camp, it was cool. What if it works all the time? laughing laughing good

    Are you talking about DS or ZAS?
  17. +4
    24 January 2022 01: 29
    It was necessary to unfreeze the engines. Well the author!
    1. +3
      24 January 2022 12: 01
      That's how I was unique and, probably, the only one of its kind in all the Armed Forces of the USSR!
  18. +3
    24 January 2022 02: 04
    This is the complete truth. Such repairs were made not only on the Krazov engines, but also on the Zil-157, Zil-130. Glory to Soviet technology, which withstood everything !!!
  19. 0
    24 January 2022 21: 16
    Repeatedly, repeatedly, systematically, in the form of fishing, my favorite Cricetus cricetus, maybe you will condescend and try to explain: why did the respected avia12005 (Yuri) get so many minuses today without any arguments? For example, in 1983-84, on the basis of GAZ-51, I saw a pair of UPG-250s at the base at the Machulishchi airfield in the Minsk region ... I wrote many times on the site: everything is possible in the USSR and Russia! In the early 90s of the 20th century, military personnel at the State Central Navy Training Ground, but not in Nyonoksa, but in Severodvinsk itself, were sold from warehouses for 120 rubles white army sheepskin coats, with GAZ-66 and ZIL-157 KUNGs (still without power steering) for 20 years standing "on the blocks" at a price of 600 to 1200 rubles, and the most surprising, leather jackets-Canadian submariners that have become a legend at a price of 250 to 300 rubles (they lay for more than 25 years in packs, tied with ropes, on the upper and lower canadian in packs, the ropes cut into the skin strongly, the traces of the ropes were not smoothed out when the jacket was worn).
  20. 0
    24 January 2022 23: 54
    What, our army is so poor to buy antifreeze?
    Or not on the balance sheet - is it not a pity?
  21. 0
    24 January 2022 23: 56
    Not transferred to Russia "Lefty"!
  22. 0
    26 January 2022 09: 25
    What good fellows. Then KrAZ trucks were transferred to Siberia, and once their crews died in the tundra when this shit threw a cooler into the rut. Yes, not only because of the authorities the USSR died ...
  23. 0
    27 January 2022 08: 00
    Twice a year, all equipment had to go through the procedure for transferring to the winter and summer seasons of operation. Changed special fluids, checked seals, etc. Yes, and just like that, if the equipment went on water cooling for a long time, you can’t fill in antifreeze. Somewhere it will leak.
    It is not clear only. This technique belongs to what group of operation? I got the impression that the tractors were on the DH.
  24. 0
    27 January 2022 20: 12
    Quote: Serg Serg
    . combatants - those who participated in everyday support - shifts on duty were transported, property, and so on.

    You probably meant the transport group. It was this group of equipment that usually performed all the daily work. The bumper was painted with a white stripe on the side.

    And on the bumper there is a white triangle with the letter T. Well, it used to be that they also painted on the back side.