In response to NATO's refusal to make concessions, Russia may deploy missile systems in the Balkans

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The recent talks between Russian representatives with the United States and NATO have shown the West's unwillingness to change its foreign policy towards Moscow. The Kremlin continues to be accused of military escalation, in particular, of the intention to invade Ukraine, intimidating with the introduction of new sanctions, and refuses to stop the expansion of the North Atlantic Alliance towards the borders of the Russian Federation.

Iskander-M as a response to the aggression of the West


In fact, the West has shown a complete unwillingness to listen to outside opinions, considering the pressure on the unwanted authorities as the only way to conduct a "dialogue". It was officially confirmed that the entire top leadership of the Russian Federation, including President Vladimir Putin, could fall under the sanctions blow.



This clearly demonstrated the refusal to make concessions to Russia in such a sensitive issue for our country as the inclusion of Ukraine and Georgia in NATO. On the part of the alliance, it was stated that this is not a matter for the near future, but in the future this process will be completed. This means that sooner or later, NATO's military infrastructure, including offensive strike weapons, will be deployed on the territory of these countries.


As Putin explained, in this case, the time it takes for missiles to reach Moscow will decrease from 10-15 to 7-10 minutes, the territory that is closely adjacent to Russian territory in the west and south-west will be developed militarily. This will give the alliance a significant tactical advantage, creating an unacceptable threat to the Russian authorities from the missile strike systems.

However, Russia can provide an adequate response to the deployment of offensive weapons along the perimeter of its borders. This could be the deployment of the Iskander-M OTRK in Serbia, deep in NATO's battle formations, concentrated on the southeastern flank of Europe. This missile system, with a declared range of up to 500 km, in the event of deployment in Serbia, is capable of keeping at gunpoint an impressive area, "reaching out" to the countries of the so-called Visegrad Four and the European territory of Turkey (if deployed in the south of Serbia). At the same time, the Russian military-industrial complex is able to create more long-range versions of Iskander-M, which can significantly increase the affected area, expanding it all the way to Central Europe and Western Europe.

Moreover, one of the largest US military bases in Europe - the base in Kosovo - will automatically come under the gun.


The radius of destruction during the deployment of the Iskander-M OTRK in the Belgrade area

The choice is for the Serbs


The deployment of these missile systems on the territory of Serbia requires the consent of Belgrade in principle. This requires the local authorities to fully understand the futility of cooperation with the West, which has already shown its diktat in full, destroying Yugoslavia during the 1999 bombings. Attempts are now being made to bring pro-Western forces to power through the so-called eco-activists, whose pro-Western orientation is beyond doubt. Serbian leader Aleksandr Vucic said that these activists are sponsored by American and European organizations such as the Marshall Fund.

With the funds received from their "benefactors", they launched riots in the country, initially hiding behind the demand to curtail the project for the development of lithium in the country, the reserves of which may reach 10% of the world. According to the head of state, he will not allow eco-activists to repeat the experience of pogroms in Kazakhstan that took place with foreign intervention.

It is possible that against the background of these events, the Serbian authorities will come to an understanding of the need for closer rapprochement with Russia.


Moreover, Moscow has already proved the ability to quickly respond to crisis situations in the allied states by quickly transferring CSTO forces to Kazakhstan. With such support, Serbia could embark on a stable course of development, covered by powerful military-political support from Moscow, including in the form of Iskander-M missile systems.

The readiness for such cooperation should be demonstrated by the elections scheduled in Serbia on April 3, showing who will come to power - constructive forces interested in the country's prosperity, or Western puppets, whose task is only to fulfill orders of foreign sponsors.

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  1. -13
    13 January 2022 15: 49
    Serbs are not Bulgarians, there is still hope for them.
    1. +50
      13 January 2022 16: 12
      Serbia is surrounded by countries and NATO countries unfriendly to Russia, there is no outlet to the sea. Who will give Russia a corridor for the transfer of troops? Some kind of fantasy ...
      1. +5
        13 January 2022 21: 57
        Quote: umah
        Serbia is surrounded by countries and NATO countries unfriendly to Russia, there is no outlet to the sea. Who will give Russia a corridor for the transfer of troops? Some kind of fantasy ...

        And - besides - it won't be enough. You need to post in Latin America!
        1. +9
          14 January 2022 13: 10
          Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
          Quote: umah
          Serbia is surrounded by countries and NATO countries unfriendly to Russia, there is no outlet to the sea. Who will give Russia a corridor for the transfer of troops? Some kind of fantasy ...

          And - besides - it won't be enough. You need to post in Latin America!

          In Latin America, especially no one will let you in. If here at home our chiefs justify why the troops are deployed near the border with Ukraine. With all the might of the USSR, with the deployment of missiles in Cuba, it didn’t come to a bit of a war. Why then closed the base there in the 2000s? After all, we saw very well that NATO was moving east and the United States did not become our friends. And they never will. Yes, and will not accept, our troops are now no one in that region. These are all hatred talks and nothing more.
          1. +4
            15 January 2022 05: 43
            Or maybe the whole problem is that we are making excuses!? I'm thinking that one fig they will expand - well, this is in a person's blood - expansion and absorption. This is our boundless region - and then out, apartments at the price of "space". Do you think that China (China), and Japan, and Germany, and Pakistan do not want to expand? Yes, everyone who has become cramped in their volumes will expand. Moreover, Russia can live without the whole world, but the world cannot. In fact, we have everything that life needs. yes, it spoiled us and we began to not really appreciate what we have. You are talking about China. And what is he? He would have been blown away by even those sanctions from 2014 long ago. Although he is trying to look menacing - but in fact, he is holding on to straws. (Chinese money - it has not taken root in the world as a means of payment, technology - is brought in from abroad, the debt load of everyone and everything inside the country is terrible, GDP was inflated due to real estate, there is almost no military experience).
            You just need to decide for yourself what is important and what is secondary and already begin to implement this plan. And then in words - we are all great, but for example 5 groups (well, these are five crossroads and others like them) - they are registered in Holland and so on.
            Why is it bad to sit on 2 chairs when you can sit in your own chair?
            1. 0
              20 January 2022 11: 38
              Exactly. We are self sufficient. Territory, resources, competencies, defense power.
        2. -2
          14 January 2022 13: 34
          I propose to follow the Chinese path: build an island in the Pacific and / or Atlantic Ocean and place a sufficient number of missiles there. The main thing is to be close to the FSA.
          And let them constantly monitor the condition of their own diapers.
        3. +1
          15 January 2022 06: 16
          Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
          You need to post in Latin America!

          That's right - the creation of a mirror threat at a dagger distance, so that the flight time is measured in minutes.
          And that is why our military delegation is in Cuba now.
          There were also agreements with Venezuela on bases, and there is a proposal for this. A naval base and an air force base with the possibility of operational basing / jumping of long-range aircraft can be deployed there.

          And Serbia ... for this it is necessary to return Ukraine and Moldova to the Native Harbor and accept Romania into the CSTO. And Montenegro will reunite with Serbia.
          ... It will be easier and more efficient in the Caribbean.
          1. -5
            15 January 2022 11: 40
            Quote: bayard
            That's right - the creation of a mirror threat at a dagger distance, so that the flight time is measured in minutes.
            And that is why our military delegation is in Cuba now.

            That's right. It is not for nothing that after the "fruitful" negotiations with the US/West, the special squad aircraft visited Nicaragua, Venezuela and Cuba, and today the US/NATO urgently wanted a new meeting and wished to negotiate (talk!) and further. lol
      2. +10
        14 January 2022 09: 12
        Quote: umah
        Serbia is surrounded by countries and NATO countries unfriendly to Russia, there is no outlet to the sea. Who will give Russia a corridor for the transfer of troops? Some kind of fantasy ...

        The last thing that was overdue ... was overlooked by Russia in those places - Montenegro, that is, Serbia's access to the sea. And it happened recently, that is, it took shape de jure.
        The corridor now needs to be done, however, for the embodiment of the wishes stated in this article. Is the author ready? Or "thinkers", whose opinion is expressed by the author of the article?
        1. -15
          14 January 2022 10: 59
          The corridor now needs to be done
          Yes, we do not need any corridor.
          Let's just say that the experimental (may detonate involuntarily) "Poseidons" are already off the coast of the United States, and the "sailor Zheleznyak" does not remember how long he set the timer. request Well, a couple of three months can sleep peacefully smile
          1. -4
            14 January 2022 12: 10
            Quote: flicker
            The corridor now needs to be done
            Yes, we do not need any corridor.
            Let's just say that the experimental (may detonate involuntarily) "Poseidons" are already off the coast of the United States, and the "sailor Zheleznyak" does not remember how long he set the timer. request Well, a couple of three months can sleep peacefully smile

            "Sailor Zheleznyak" is already tired of rearranging the timer
            smile
            I should say so.

            The variant with the news of the successful "mining" of both mattress coasts by the Poseidons is more abruptly than Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela combined.
            good
            1. +1
              14 January 2022 14: 14
              "Sailor Zheleznyak" is already tired of rearranging the timer
              smile
              I should say so.
              laughing Actually, yes, it's much better, you can say "historical" laughing
      3. 0
        14 January 2022 21: 48
        That's it.
      4. 0
        15 January 2022 08: 09
        along the Danube.......
      5. +6
        15 January 2022 13: 12
        We already have groups in Kaliningrad and Transnistria in full encirclement, and in Syria there is not "free" access, shall we pull another one?
      6. 0
        15 January 2022 15: 28
        When the tunnel from Moscow to Belgrade is dug, then we'll see laughing
    2. +31
      13 January 2022 16: 30
      I think the Serbs will be totally against it. They willingly portray the victim and will ask us for help. But to do something ourselves and be extreme .. No
      1. 0
        13 January 2022 17: 54
        Quote: 210ox
        They willingly portray the victim and will ask us for help.

        whose sacrifice? Is someone threatening them?
        1. -3
          13 January 2022 18: 06
          Whose? Anyone. If only you are guessing for yourself.
    3. +30
      13 January 2022 16: 41
      Sheer nonsense! Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries. How to deliver equipment there, how to supply the group in the future?
      1. -1
        13 January 2022 16: 51
        Quote: Timon2155
        Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries. How to deliver equipment there?

        in parts. In the suitcases of tourists.
      2. -19
        13 January 2022 17: 42
        Quote: Timon2155
        Sheer nonsense! Serbia is surrounded by NATO countries. How to deliver equipment there, how to supply the group in the future?

        Not at all nonsense. Firstly, there is Bosnia with its kind of access to the sea. Secondly, Russian military transport workers have been flying and are flying to Serbia for joint exercises.
        1. +11
          13 January 2022 19: 25
          And yet it will be a small vanguard of potential suicide bombers in case of a conflict, located far away and surrounded from all sides (here is intelligence and provocations). Instability will bring, but security will not.
        2. -7
          13 January 2022 23: 36
          A note for some here - through the air corridors over Bulgaria.
          1. 0
            15 January 2022 13: 16
            "Brothers", in memory of the salvation from the Ottomans, in the 2nd World Wars have always been in the ranks of the interventionists.
        3. +9
          14 January 2022 11: 51
          They fly, the pack is allowed to fly.
        4. -1
          15 January 2022 06: 23
          Quote: Volodin
          Not at all nonsense. Firstly, there is Bosnia with its kind of access to the sea. Secondly, Russian military transport workers have been flying and are flying to Serbia for joint exercises.

          Why such difficulties and risks when you can simply deploy an additional MiG-31 squadron with "Daggers", deploying it in the Krasnodar Territory or in the Crimea, and they will cover all targets in Europe.
          But the Iskanders, Zircons (on the Bastion launchers) and Calibers in Cuba are a completely different matter.
      3. -4
        13 January 2022 20: 07
        It's easier to place missiles in Libya. From Benghazi to Paris and Berlin, 2350 km, just within the reach of Caliber.
        1. -7
          14 January 2022 02: 07
          It’s easier to place missiles in Libya
          let's just say that the Poseidons are already off the coast of the United States. A year, maybe two, they hold out and do not detonate, but for the third - we do not guarantee. belay
      4. -3
        15 January 2022 01: 46
        Along the Danube. International waters.
      5. +1
        16 January 2022 11: 25
        Obviously, the "gloomy Russian genius" has already come up with teleportation)))
    4. +12
      14 January 2022 10: 35
      Firstly, indeed, the choice is up to the Serbs. And they are not crazy at all. They are in the center of Europe, and they live there.
      Secondly, if we are talking about an even more serious aggravation of relations with NATO, then the territory of Serbia is isolated from all sides by the forces of the same NATO.
      If they want, then not a single aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces will fly there, let alone an echelon with military equipment.
      So, "Eskanders" in Serbia are the author's naive fantasies.
      PS: The same is true with the placement of shock systems in Latin America. If we compare the number of fleets (ours and NATO), it becomes obvious that we simply will not be allowed to do this.
      1. -11
        14 January 2022 11: 01
        And the Poseidons off the coast of the United States?
        1. +5
          14 January 2022 11: 11
          Maybe they are, if this is not the fruit of an information war... But this does not fundamentally change the situation. Our submarine missile carriers have been on duty off the coast of the United States for several years now.
          So what?
          1. -6
            14 January 2022 11: 58
            Our submarine missile carriers have been on duty off the coast of the United States for several years.
            So what?
            Well, yes, they are related only by the fact that they move under water. But these are completely different weapons with different goals and different methods of influence.
            ---
            First, the sizes of the missile carriers and Poseidons are not comparable, which affects the likelihood of being detected.
            Secondly, missile carriers should surface from time to time, and the Poseidons do not need this from the word at all (which means that the latter may not be detected).

            In addition, missile carriers do not need to be on duty off the coast of the United States (launching ballistic missiles at Florida from the coast of Florida is something new in military science) they will get this "Florida" both from the coast of Russia and from the ocean depths.

            Well, and most importantly, they are tailored for different tasks, and, accordingly, the methods of solving these problems are different.
            Missile carriers are carriers of ballistic missiles, the target of which is on the coast and, accordingly, the trajectory of delivery to the target by air, where these missiles can be shot down.
            Quite another matter, "Poseidons" are not a weapon carrier, they are weapons. And it detonates under water (it gets to the target imperceptibly, it is impossible to intercept it). In addition, the target itself is not on land, but on the water - this is an aircraft carrier group.

            But the main purpose of "Poseidon" is underwater bunkers, bomb shelters on the seabed. They are the "DECISION-MAKING CENTERS".
            ---
            Poseidon is the primary weapon against decision-making centers.
            That's why it was created.
      2. 0
        15 January 2022 05: 51
        Here the author probably means - just an air defense suicide squad. When ordered, they simply launch rockets and that's it, as it were. Nothing more is required of them. Base lifetime is 5-10 minutes.
        True - there is a risk that Serba will also get "for the company." Apparently someone just wants a discount on gas)
      3. 0
        16 January 2022 11: 29
        Here, but to me for the fact that destroyers are building sga, but at least the same zumwalts, but we threw no minuses)))))
  2. +8
    13 January 2022 15: 50
    Why is it so difficult? And do we need it?
    1. +28
      13 January 2022 16: 44
      And do we need it?

      And the Serbs need it? It couldn't be funnier. Why would a Serb give up Europe if even Muscovites cannot imagine themselves without Milan behind the Iron Curtain? laughing
      Come down to earth, author. There is a usual squabble between the capitalists of the West and our nouveau riche - upstarts. Ours are cut and driven into the stall, they bleat and resent. No one will translate all this into a truly terrible carnage. The enemy of the United States is not Russia, but China. And the States need only one thing from Russia - dependence and participation in the anti-Chinese belt in the east.
      1. -6
        14 January 2022 01: 51
        And the Serbs need it?
        Do Romanians need it?
      2. +5
        14 January 2022 13: 21
        Quote: dauria
        Why would a Serb abandon Europe, even if Muscovites cannot imagine themselves without Milan behind the Iron Curtain

        There are Muscovites, especially stubborn patriots, who can't imagine themselves without a dacha on Lake Como in Italy.
  3. +28
    13 January 2022 15: 51
    Hmm, sorry, but stupidity. The Serbs will not agree to this, because they have a vector for joining the EU, and the Iskanders there are a cross on entry, not to mention the fact that in order to place a base you need to have access to the sea in order to safely supply or deliver goods with planes or ships, and Serbia has no access to the sea
    1. -13
      14 January 2022 11: 03
      Serbia has no access to the sea
      But the US has.
      Let's say that the "Poseidons" are already on their shores ... let them sleep in peace belay
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  5. sen
    +10
    13 January 2022 15: 51
    They may be the deployment of OTRK "Iskander-M" in Serbia

    I'm afraid that Alexander Vucic will not go for it. He preaches multi-vector approach and is very cautious. It's another matter if they try to pull off a color revolution and impose tough sanctions like Belarus, but the West is already a scientist and will not go for it. And the United States, by and large, does not give a damn about Europe, although in words it expresses concern. Now, if they are placed closer to the USA.
    1. +3
      13 January 2022 16: 22
      Quote: sen
      And the United States, by and large, does not give a damn about Europe, although in words it expresses concern.
      They do not give a damn, of course, they keep the old woman under complete control and will not dump from there voluntarily. In addition, they are constantly pursuing a policy of weakening the flagships of Europe - Germany and France. They do not need an independent EU policy.
  6. Two
    +3
    13 January 2022 15: 53
    But Vucic is sitting on 2 chairs! Yes, and there is no special faith in the Srbs!
    1. +5
      13 January 2022 16: 51
      Quote: Dos
      But Vucic is sitting on 2 chairs! Yes, and there is no special faith in the Srbs!

      what did they annoy you with?
      how have you undermined your trust?
  7. +5
    13 January 2022 15: 54
    Serbia is surrounded on all sides by countries unfriendly to us. I would like to ask the author of this idea - how, if it comes to deployment, will we transport such strike systems through their territory? Do you think these NATO pawns will just let them transport and place at least a couple of launchers? Just put a knife right under your ribs? Yes, there the howl will rise a couple of tones higher about the "aggression of Russia."
    You can do it easier - set up strike complexes right on the border and officially warn: jerk, it will fly there, there and there. At the same time, this will get it, as if they were in the wrong place. And then let them howl as they want and as much as they want about aggression, attack and so on.
  8. +19
    13 January 2022 15: 54
    It is interesting - how it is proposed to crank it all out. if Serbia has all the neighbors in NATO and no access to the sea? what I’m already silent about the question - why is it for the Serbs .. belay
    1. +3
      13 January 2022 16: 21
      And this is hpp (cunning plan p ...)? Serbs probably remember not only the NATO bombing, but also something else.
    2. -5
      14 January 2022 11: 05
      Why is it for the Serbs ..
      Why Romanians?
  9. +11
    13 January 2022 15: 55
    Moreover, Moscow has already proved its ability to quickly respond to crisis situations in allied states by promptly deploying CSTO forces to Kazakhstan.
    This is not Kazakhstan, with which we have a common border and adjacent airspace! It will be, as with our peacekeepers in Transnistria, no entry, no exit .....
    1. +19
      13 January 2022 16: 22
      Vladimir, well, by God - there is no point in seriously discussing this nonsense. The editorial board, your will, has a strange understanding of the term analytics.
  10. +20
    13 January 2022 16: 00
    Serbs sleep and see. how to put the Iskanders at home and go to heaven. Well, oh, they love Russia very much!
    Can Petrov and Boshirov with nuclear bags be sent on a camping trip? This is at least more realistic (although also crap)
    I don't understand that our strategists are tempted to get into a foreign country with nuclear weapons (Cuba, Venezuela, now Serbia) will not let us go there. we have our own Chukotka - covers the entire western coast.
    1. +2
      13 January 2022 16: 53
      Quote: mark1
      Well, oh, they love Russia very much!

      name at least one country in Europe where Russia is loved more
      1. +11
        13 January 2022 16: 56
        name at least one country in Europe where Russia is loved more

        The question is not correct. Correct - name at least one country in the world where Russia is loved more than their life.
        1. -5
          13 January 2022 17: 16
          Quote: mark1
          The question is not correct. Correct - name at least one country in the world where Russia is loved more than their life.

          the answer is too obvious, but it goes against your comment
          Serbia is the most Russian-friendly country in Europe

          I don’t remember such a clumsy attempt to evade an answer.
          1. +6
            13 January 2022 17: 38
            Quote: Flood
            goes against your comment

            By no means are these just the peculiarities of your perception of information, try after reading to think for at least a minute and you will understand as I tried to convey to you. Everything is said in the first line.
            1. -3
              13 January 2022 17: 43
              Quote: mark1
              By no means are these just the peculiarities of your perception of information.

              the question of who loves another country more than life, beyond good and evil, understanding as such.
              it doesn't explain anything.
              does not answer anything in the context of the topic under discussion.
              the usual attempt at chatting.

              I faithfully read it again, as you advised me.
              thought.
              I did not think of anything that could explain your words.

              this does not in any way negate the fact that the Serbs are the most friendly people in Europe in relation to Russia.
              1. +8
                13 January 2022 17: 53
                “The Serbs sleep and see.
                Is that clearer? And about the Serbs, specifically, I did not say anything bad, they love us, but not as much as you want
                1. -2
                  13 January 2022 18: 07
                  Quote: mark1
                  “The Serbs sleep and see.

                  I was just about to write that I seem to understand you
                  even though it was not easy for me
                  it was hard to expect serious objections to the author's delirium
                  and your words
                  Quote: mark1
                  Well, oh, they love Russia very much!

                  are openly sarcastic
                  that together with the fashionable mood "Serbs are not our brothers"
                  as well as your question whether the Serbs love Russia more than life

                  led to this clarification
                  I hope you are not mad at me
                  all the best
                  1. +9
                    13 January 2022 18: 28
                    Quote: Flood
                    are openly sarcastic

                    I do not deny that it is sarcastic, but not in relation to the Serbs, rather, more in relation to the author in his desire to exploit the good attitude of the Serbs towards Russia to the detriment of his existence.
  11. -6
    13 January 2022 16: 01
    Moreover, one of the largest US military bases in Europe - the base in Kosovo - will automatically come under the gun.
    And what, there are so few scared in geyrope ???
    The decisions are not made by them, but by those for whom the shelters are prepared and the "business jets" are always under steam.
    Moreover, the big brother is always ready to put allies to the slaughter!
    There are more questions than advantages.
    1. +9
      13 January 2022 16: 16
      Quote: rocket757
      Moreover, the big brother is always ready to put allies to the slaughter!

      And the author, in fact, proposes to do the same with the Serbs, isn't it? Or # is that something else?
  12. +19
    13 January 2022 16: 01
    I bet that Serbia will not give its territory for the deployment of Russian missiles. And the point is not that Serbia is not friendly to the Russian Federation, but its main trading partner is Europe. If Europe closes for Serbia, then an economic crisis will begin there.
    1. +1
      13 January 2022 16: 35
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      I bet that Serbia will not give its territory for the deployment of Russian missiles.

      Let them try! Then someone frowns and casts in granite:
      "You can't get off with apples alone!"
      laughing
    2. +3
      13 January 2022 17: 06
      "I bet"
      This is so obvious that there is simply nothing to argue about.
    3. -7
      14 January 2022 11: 07
      If Europe is closed to Serbia, then an economic crisis will begin there.
      For this case, Serbia needs missiles.
      1. +5
        14 January 2022 11: 15
        Quote: flicker
        If Europe is closed to Serbia, then an economic crisis will begin there.
        For this case, Serbia needs missiles.

        How will this help Serbia? There were a lot of missiles in the USSR in 1990, and how did this prevent an economic crisis?
        1. -7
          14 January 2022 12: 07
          There were many missiles in the USSR in 1990, and how did this prevent the economic crisis?
          There was no economic crisis, from the word at all.
          There was more of a conceptual crisis.
          ---
          If we had used missiles, then the economic crisis would have arisen in someone else. And against the background of this "economic" crisis, our conceptual crisis would have evaporated.
          1. +3
            14 January 2022 12: 14
            Quote: flicker
            There were many missiles in the USSR in 1990, and how did this prevent the economic crisis?
            There was no economic crisis, from the word at all.
            There was more of a conceptual crisis.
            ---
            If we had used missiles, then the economic crisis would have arisen in someone else. And against the background of this "economic" crisis, our conceptual crisis would have evaporated.

            Do you suggest collective suicide due to the economic crisis?
            1. -6
              14 January 2022 14: 18
              We are also offered to commit suicide - well, then it's together, together it's more fun.
  13. +2
    13 January 2022 16: 05
    The readiness for such cooperation should be demonstrated by the elections scheduled for April 3 in Serbia, showing who will come to power - constructive forces interested in the country's prosperity, or Western puppets,

    Well, the "Belarusian option" will take place in April: on the territory of Serbia. This is a very undesirable option, but the West and the United States have launched titanic work there. I think that they will "minus" me now, but time will tell the truth.
    1. +2
      13 January 2022 16: 31
      Quote: carpenter
      The Belarusian version "will take place in April: on the territory of Serbia.

      and what kind of option is this?
    2. -6
      13 January 2022 17: 04
      We need help from Montenegro, oh well.
  14. +11
    13 January 2022 16: 07
    The chances for the author's fantasies to come true are substantially less than zero.
  15. +3
    13 January 2022 16: 09
    Attempts are now being made to bring pro-Western forces to power through the so-called eco-activists, whose pro-Western orientation is beyond doubt.


    Yeah, who are protesting against the production of lithium just the same by Western companies. It is very logical.
  16. +1
    13 January 2022 16: 10
    Blah, blah, blah ... Abalden response)
    1. 0
      13 January 2022 16: 43
      Quote: Yura Yura
      Blah, blah, blah ... Abalden response)

      there are no other answers at the moment))
      but poztrioticheski frenzy need to be maintained!
      1. -4
        14 January 2022 11: 11
        must be supported!
        Ugar now reigns in another camp.
        As for the responses, there are enough Poseidons off the coast of the United States.
  17. +7
    13 January 2022 16: 12
    The thesis that all ingenious strategists have been working as hairdressers and taxi drivers for a long time is true. Now, the author, there is little to do - it is necessary to explain to the Serbs the prospect that they will not "just die" (s), but will go to heaven "like martyrs." And most importantly - in the name of what.
  18. +17
    13 January 2022 16: 18
    However, Russia can provide an adequate response to the deployment of offensive weapons along the perimeter of its borders. This could be the deployment of the Iskander-M OTRK in Serbia - in the depths of NATO's battle formations

    One feels that the New Year holidays for some individuals did not pass without a trace.
    1. +6
      13 January 2022 17: 18
      Quote: Undecim
      It is felt that the New Year holidays have not passed without a trace.

      It's not evening yet, to be continued today - "Happy New Year!" (old style).
  19. -8
    13 January 2022 16: 24
    Stop dancing the polka-butterfly in front of the USA! Stalin would never have tolerated such an attitude. I would have punished one way or another. Enough. If necessary, I will go to war.
    1. +11
      13 January 2022 16: 31
      Quote: magdama
      If necessary, I will go to war.

      You will not be hired, you do not know how to put snow in square drifts.
      1. -6
        13 January 2022 16: 52
        The foreman will teach)))
      2. +3
        14 January 2022 10: 13
        And parallel and perpendicular :))
    2. +2
      13 January 2022 16: 45
      Quote: magdama
      Stop dancing the polka-butterfly in front of the USA! Stalin would never have tolerated such an attitude. I would have punished one way or another. Enough. If necessary, I will go to war.

      already put on a vest and a helmet to fight for Deripaska ??)
      1. -4
        13 January 2022 17: 09
        Deripaska is in my company. Koshevar.
        1. +1
          13 January 2022 19: 10
          Quote: magdama
          Koshevar.

          you are there between battles. read the book)
      2. -3
        14 January 2022 11: 14
        already wearing a vest and helmet
        By the way, you will also have to wear a "vest and helmet", whether you like it or not, few people will care.
    3. +7
      13 January 2022 16: 47
      Quote: magdama
      Enough. If necessary, I will go to war.


      "- Ensign! Write down these simple, but at the same time great words" (c)
      Commissar
      "DMB"
  20. +12
    13 January 2022 16: 30
    How cute ...
    And the Serbs were asked?
    1. -10
      13 January 2022 16: 40
      I will answer. Serbs are the most loyal brothers for us. I communicated with them very sincerely. Dragan Ivanovich, hello to you! It is not for nothing that they are called Russians in Europe. So that's it. If necessary for security, including Europe, the Serbs will support us.
      1. -6
        13 January 2022 16: 54
        Quote: magdama
        I will answer. Serbs are the most loyal brothers for us. I communicated with them very sincerely. Dragan Ivanovich, hello to you! It is not for nothing that they are called Russians in Europe. So that's it. If necessary for security, including Europe, the Serbs will support us.

        share your opinion
        1. +10
          13 January 2022 17: 32
          Quote: Flood
          share your opinion

          Sympathy is, of course, wonderful. But it is somehow strange in response to draw a fat target on the back of the sympathizer. High relationship, nothing to say ...
          1. -4
            13 January 2022 17: 37
            Quote: Ashes of Klaas
            Sympathy is, of course, wonderful. But it is somehow strange in response to draw a fat target on the back of the sympathizer. High relationship, nothing to say ...

            do not go beyond what I have written

            I like what is written about the Serbs by comrade magdama, and not by the author of the article.
      2. +6
        13 January 2022 17: 41
        Quote: magdama
        If necessary for security, including Europe, the Serbs will support us.

        Do the Serbs know they have to support us?
        What do they think about it?
        1. -5
          14 January 2022 11: 17
          Do the Serbs know they have to support us?
          Serbs live in revenge. Someone who, and the Serbs are ready to avenge what they did to their country.
    2. -4
      13 January 2022 16: 55
      Quote: Bez 310
      And the Serbs were asked?

      the author rubbed this question with a Serbian colleague
      1. +7
        13 January 2022 18: 06
        Quote: Flood
        the author rubbed this question with a Serbian colleague

        sounded like "The author has rubbed this question with Vladimir Vladimirovich." laughing
  21. +8
    13 January 2022 16: 33
    Experts began to wonder what the response of the Russian Federation would be. Iskanders in Serbia are strategically stupid - it's tantamount to getting into a bag (which will then be tied up) and sitting in the bag waving fists
    1. -8
      13 January 2022 16: 47
      Great, EXPERT. I agree, missiles in Serbia are stupidity. Why, if our missiles have a range of under 12 thousand kilometers. Just put the submarine near "friendly" America, on both sides. And let them play on. On the accordion.))
    2. +1
      13 January 2022 16: 51
      it was necessary to think about this when they tried to take NATO with ultimatums.)
      1. -2
        14 January 2022 08: 28
        So he doesn’t take a show off, but prepares a legal basis for forceful counter-measures - they say we offered you, tried to negotiate, but you refused, now don’t complain, we warned you
  22. -5
    13 January 2022 16: 44
    Serbian eco-activists are fighting to shut down lithium developments in the country. And what will their electric cars ride? The Gretytumbergs have already gotten tired, there is a plug in each barrel.
    1. +6
      13 January 2022 17: 13
      Quote: don-1500
      Serbian eco-activists are fighting to shut down lithium developments in the country.

      So what? Yes, let them fight, what is it to us?
      1. +1
        13 January 2022 17: 28
        The article says that they are a strong opposition to Vucic and of course they will be strongly against the Iskander.
  23. 0
    13 January 2022 16: 47
    I'm a strategist, like a football player from my grandmother. The idea is good. But Serbia still hasn't figured it out with Kosovo, and then a permanent base in a foreign country is vulnerable. It is necessary to build up forces on the seas: the Black and Mediterranean in the South. Many NATO countries are located near these seas. Yes, and there is room for maneuvers - you want to Georgia, you want to Ukraine. The presence in the Mediterranean will help pin down NATO's naval forces. Then visits to the Black Sea will be very rare.
    1. +1
      13 January 2022 17: 21
      Quote: nikvic46
      But Serbia will not sort it out with Kosovo yet.

      And in Kosovo there is already a US military base.
  24. +9
    13 January 2022 16: 47
    We kindly ask you not to pour this table any more ...
    1. -2
      13 January 2022 17: 19
      Excuse me, is it you for me?
      1. +5
        13 January 2022 17: 24
        Sorry, if you are not the author, then not for you, you seem to be sitting on the phone and it is not very clear to whom who is answering ... hi
  25. +17
    13 January 2022 17: 17
    The era of "TV" people. Everywhere.
    Author, you can comprehend the following facts:
    1. Serbia receives, free of charge from the EU, about 850 million euros every year.
    2. About 70% of Serbia's export goes to the EU. Nausicdke.
    3. Serbia is negotiating with the EU for accession and using pre-reunification funds.
    4. Every year Serbia participates in exercises with Amers, at least once, in Shabla exercises. They have teachings and gum there.

    What can you offer them? Touch the rocket? laughing
    Now you can once again rethink this nonsense, which was called an article.
    1. +3
      13 January 2022 19: 12
      shcha cons crammed postriotically tuned up honor))
    2. +2
      16 January 2022 11: 37
      Well, here's an answer from Europe) Not a Serb, of course, but he will answer, I think also good
  26. +5
    13 January 2022 17: 41
    Sweet mriyas ...
    1. +13
      13 January 2022 17: 52
      Quote: smaug78
      Sweet mriyas ...

      these are not mriyas, but games of a sick imagination.
      1. 0
        16 January 2022 11: 38
        What is "mriya"? request
  27. +1
    13 January 2022 18: 10
    Complete idiocy! Why are we ..Russia .. trying to give everyone's ass! who can! We would besiege NATO and the Americans in one action: we would send an insolent application for joining NATO, and not only to the leadership of the alliance, but also to all the leaders of NATO member states! Americans)! They don't give a damn about us: why Putin separates Russia from all "decent" states? We send such a statement, everyone, including the United States, will swallow the "language" and be taken aback for a long time! The only BUT! as the United States! Let them refuse and the whole world will see why! And it will be difficult for them to find the reasons! Threatening !!! Who is Vladimir Vladimirovich! Why are we trying to constantly separate from the civilized world and "make friends" with underdeveloped countries !! ??
    1. -1
      13 January 2022 22: 02
      Would besiege NATO and the Americans in one action: send an insolent application to join NATO


      But this is much more talented than what your president does. This is without irony already. No, I am not a geopolitician, but a couch home marketer, but your proposal contains bread and if it is polished by real diplomacy tigers, then it’s right - it can be a bomb for the world and a real victory for Russia in geopolitics.
      And then the Americans can play, if they listen, about Kissinger, and say - well, okay, we agree.
      It seems to me that they need an alliance with Russia. And that is very much. But now both of us will be accused of bullshit ... laughing
      1. -1
        14 January 2022 04: 34
        Eugene
        The last time the topic of Russia's accession to NATO was raised was in 2000 Vladimir Putin. Shortly before his first presidential elections, he gave an interview to the BBC, in which he spoke in favor of joining the bloc on the basis of a full partnership.

        Putin discussed this issue in official talks with Clinton, but Secretary of State Madeleine Albright opposed this. In 2017, the Russian president said that Clinton himself was positive about the idea.
        Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin
        “During the discussion, I said:“ Maybe look at the option that Russia will join NATO. ” Clinton replied, "I don't mind." But the whole delegation was very nervous. "

        Usually Europe was "friends" against Russia! Let us admit to NATO! So we will be "friends" against China?
        And we need it?
  28. +5
    13 January 2022 18: 43
    Something tells me that the Serbs will not agree to the deployment of our missiles ...
    1. 0
      13 January 2022 19: 08
      and if they turn off the gas ???
  29. AAK
    +2
    13 January 2022 19: 48
    I agree with most of my colleagues, in this case the author's idea is a clear ignorance of the situation and ill-considered consequences. The Balkan small-town squabbles (together with the stupidity and shortsightedness of Nicholas II) cost Russia huge losses in World War I and the loss of the status of an empire. Serbia is 2-1 percent in the EEC, and 85-90 percent is ready to join NATO. In order to unleash the Serbs in a military conflict, an alliance of Croats, Kosovars and Bosniaks would be enough, without involving the rest of Europe. Again, many thanks to Bald Kukuruznik, if not for this Trotskyist female dog, it is likely that we would still have a base for the fleet and missiles in Albania
  30. +2
    13 January 2022 20: 46
    In response to NATO's refusal to make concessions, Russia may deploy missile systems in the Balkans
    Do they know about it? And yes, they agree??? winked
    1. +1
      16 January 2022 11: 43
      But how? Look in Cuba and Venezuela, everything is already on the ointment))) And the Serbs agree a priori))
  31. BAI
    +6
    13 January 2022 21: 27
    This could be the deployment of the Iskander-M OTRK in Serbia, deep in NATO's battle formations, concentrated on the southeastern flank of Europe.

    The author thought about such an idea for a long time, or did someone tell him? The author himself drew the map. Serbia is surrounded on all sides by NATO countries. All land and air routes are under the absolute control of NATO. There are no sea routes. What Iskanders? How to deliver, how to operate? Serbia will immediately be suffocated by the closure of air and land borders, and this will all end immediately.
  32. -3
    14 January 2022 00: 22
    And the best way to respond to the expansion of NATO is by expanding the nuclear club, providing assistance to Iran. Well, at the same time, the American friend Israel will become sad and will be less nimble in Syria ..
  33. +2
    14 January 2022 00: 26
    The answer is a rocket to a rocket is not an option. Latin America is also not an option, the logistics are lame. The Caribbean crisis proved this, once they managed to secretly bring missiles to Cuba, and then it was just a nightmare when the Americans came to their senses. Yes, and the Americans have already calculated the option with Latin America. At least after Sullivan's interview, it is clear that the United States is at a loss what will happen next and is ready to talk. Let's see, the week has gone.
  34. IC
    +3
    14 January 2022 02: 27
    About Serbia, sheer fantasy. The natural economic vector for the development of this country is accession and integration into the EU.
  35. +1
    14 January 2022 05: 14
    A very small country, although the Slavs. They will not want to oppose themselves to the whole of Europe. They don't want problems
  36. +3
    14 January 2022 05: 25
    I watched Malakhov's program about a child who was adopted in France .....
    The poverty of people who live in the outback was shown .......
    Who needs military preparations if the impoverished population of Russia's hinterland is dying.
    Maybe it is worth investing in the well-being of the poor people of the outback, where there is no work??
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  38. +2
    14 January 2022 10: 58
    It's time for the author and the like to get off the fantasy tree. Iskanders in Serbia? In the centre of Europe? Author, are you 15 years old? What is there for Serbia, where every piece of land is visible from all sides, covered even with conventional MLRS and artillery from any neighboring territory (and around there are only enemies and ill-wishers of Serbia). Not to mention missiles. These Iskanders will have to be protected by entire divisions from the DRG and put there the most powerful air defense. In conditions of total encirclement and sanctions. How to deliver all this, supply it there, or do you think they will allow you to do this? The same Turkey, seeing why the missiles are placed there, will sit on the priest evenly, afraid of tomatoes? You argue as if Russia has free access everywhere, but only NATO and the US. No, there isn't. If, now, Ukraine would be pro-Russian, in Kazakhstan and other former socialist republics it would be what is happening now, there would be no anti-Russian hysteria among all former friends and the Russian leadership would not be looking in a panic - how now to scold a hedgehog with a bare booty.
  39. +2
    14 January 2022 11: 01
    relying on a backward Serbia and a rusty Soviet dot-y… great plan. You can also show a film about Baba Yaga for NATO, from the same series.
  40. +3
    14 January 2022 13: 00
    The author, just look at the map, who is surrounded by Serbia and how you can get there. Then go back to school and improve your knowledge. Instead of scribbling nonsense on a respected site.
  41. +2
    14 January 2022 13: 11
    Nuansik, but how to deliver the Iskanders there. NATO has already taken control of Montenegro.
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  43. +4
    14 January 2022 14: 40
    There are a lot of "but":
    1. The Serbs did not go far from the Bulgarians ...
    2. What will happen after a change of power in Serbia? The Russian Federation has problems even in the CIS countries with this case .....
    3. What will happen to the transit to Serbia from the Russian Federation?
    4. What sanctions will the EU apply to Serbia?


    You can start with Belarus .... this will show our capabilities. And in general, this issue is easier to solve with a missile with a longer range and CD in the fleet in the Black Sea
    1. 0
      14 January 2022 17: 10
      4. What sanctions will the EU apply to Serbia?

      Will be removed from satisfaction. 850 million a year, am I right?
      Plus inflation and the collapse of local money.
      "rockets for oil", yes.
  44. +1
    14 January 2022 14: 52
    You can’t expose the Serbs like that. They are friends! But they are surrounded on all sides by their opponents. It should be placed in Kaliningrad, Crimea, partly in the northwest. Something I doubt that 500 km is the limit. I think there really is 700 km, then the entire Eastern European space, plus Germany, Scandinavia, and so on, overlaps from Kaliningrad and Crimea.
  45. +3
    14 January 2022 15: 41
    The radius of action of the Iskander complex declared by the Ministry of Defense is not great, this is not Pioneer. Who can we threaten by shooting from Belgrade. The threat must be used not on the Greeks and Romanians, but on the territory beyond the Rhine and Germany with US bases.
  46. +1
    14 January 2022 16: 21
    must demonstrate the elections scheduled in Serbia on April 3, showing who will come to power - constructive forces interested in the country's prosperity, or Western puppets, whose task is only to fulfill the orders of foreign sponsors.

    winked Guess three times? Whoever has the money will come. Whoever gets the money has it. Who will give? - The one who prints them. And then it's a matter of technology. Everywhere there is a Navalny. So I wouldn't count on Serbia much. Especially
    awareness by local authorities of the futility of cooperation with the West, which has already shown its diktat to the full, destroying Yugoslavia during the 1999 bombing.
    And after that, didn’t pro-Western forces come to power?
    IMHO, it is incorrect to compare the Operation in Kazakhstan and the Iskanders in Serbia: there is no common border. Peacekeepers in Transnistria are a classic example of encirclement and a possible blockade. In the same way, in the event of a mess with Serbia, you can’t transfer anything - no one will miss, only with battles. And there, what will fly?
  47. +2
    14 January 2022 16: 23
    It is unlikely that Iskanders will be deployed in Serbia. Around Serbia are NATO countries. They won't miss. As in 1999, the Bulgarians and Hungarians did not allow reinforcements from Russia to enter the Pristina airfield, occupied by our paratroopers.
  48. 0
    14 January 2022 16: 29
    It is easier to give Iskander an additional boost stage, similar to the Volga:

    There are probably already suitable boosters, from long-range air defense / missile defense missiles, or based on the same Iskander engine.
    The range will probably be at least 1500 km,
    Just a couple of missiles will fit into the elongated MZKT-79291)
  49. -2
    14 January 2022 17: 07
    It's a pity, comrade Wolf is absent, I really want to know his opinion.
    1. 0
      15 January 2022 09: 39
      A good option ... They will get a lot from Krum and Kaliningrad, but the enemy will also put the MRBM into service ....... Otherwise, you can return the Pioneers back ... There are up to 5t km
  50. +2
    14 January 2022 18: 45
    Russian missiles in the Balkans? Any person with at least a teaspoon of common sense without the toxic fumes of patriotic frenzy will understand that this is enchanting nonsense. The Serbs will never agree to this, they will close their breathing room on all fronts.
  51. +3
    14 January 2022 21: 06
    I don’t think that the Serbs will agree to this - and if they do, then there will be +1 company in our corner, because Serbia will be subject to sanctions that are not childish.
  52. +3
    14 January 2022 23: 15
    I am a Serb, I live in the Republika Srpska of Bosnia and Herzegovina, a participant in the civil war in BiH in the 90s of the 25000th century. 30 Serbs died in this war. Only Serbia acted as our ally at that time. And for 70 years now, Western countries have been putting pressure on the Republika Srpska and Serbia. The author of the article and most commentators completely correctly assessed the current situation in Serbia. It is absolutely certain that XNUMX% of the trade volume is between the European Union and Serbia. The majority of the Serbian people would welcome the deployment of Russian missiles on Serbian territory. And of course, I don’t know the opinion of the Serbian leadership on this issue. I am very happy that today's Russian army is powerful and strong. May God bless Russia and Serbia!
  53. +5
    14 January 2022 23: 36
    Russia can also place its missiles in Germany and France, blocking the whole of Europe. All that is required is the agreement in principle between Berlin and Paris.

    PS
    Strange article.
  54. +1
    15 January 2022 00: 56
    The Serbs will not agree to this and will not give us their territory. So such a scenario need not be discussed.
  55. -1
    15 January 2022 03: 54
    It is necessary to make a floating island from several container ships, place direct-fire missiles on them at the United States and drift along the coast under the cover of submarines in the international shipping zone. When attacking this floating tower, missiles are still fired/exploded. Underwater drones are also good in this regard, but in this matter you need visibility - here you are, and here are our missiles.
    1. 0
      15 January 2022 09: 41
      There was an even better option with a train from the Kyrgyz Republic
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  57. 0
    16 January 2022 11: 49
    Quote: V is for B
    But how? Look in Cuba and Venezuela, everything is already on the ointment))) And the Serbs agree a priori))

    belay ?? lol
  58. -1
    16 January 2022 22: 09
    Only a madman can write nonsense about missiles in Serbia. Look who are Serbia's main economic partners. Look at Serbian exports. Russia accounts for 4%.
    The Serbian economy will simply be destroyed. The gentlemen dreamers asked the Serbs, do they need this?
    Also empty fantasies about Cuba.
    There is some hope for Venezuela. But only if Russia agrees to shoulder its maintenance. For the stacks of bolivars lying underfoot hint at the state of its economy.
  59. -1
    17 January 2022 01: 32
    Quote: Third District
    Why then did they close the base there in the 2000s? After all, they saw perfectly well that NATO was moving east

    The Hegemon ordered, they carried out.
    The article is satirical in nature.
    All these statements are pure populism, a game for the domestic audience. Well, the Russian authorities do not know how to bluff and play on the edge, like the Soviet titans.
    All this is more like the attempts of midget-castrati, convincing others that they are alpha males.
  60. -1
    17 January 2022 09: 15
    What is the strategic benefit of deploying tactical missiles in Serbia?..
    Just for her image. The Russian Aerospace Forces will reach any target on the globe from their territory, and even more so in Europe.
  61. -1
    17 January 2022 18: 20
    The author writes his own fantasies. The complexes must be delivered there first, but this can only be done by air, and only if they let them through. Then supplies. It's simply not doable.
  62. -3
    22 January 2022 13: 47
    Serbia is on its way to the EU. Why do they need these missiles? The EU can give them 10 times more than Russia. Did they at least recognize Crimea?
  63. 0
    30 January 2022 02: 20
    Sofia, Plovdiv, Budapest, Miskolc, Zagreb, Tirana, Bratislava, Vienna, Skopje and so on. Do you seriously think that Serbia’s neighbors will tolerate their main cities under direct threat from Iskander? If the Serbs go crazy and accept such a plan, they will receive a simultaneous military blow from all their neighbors. Please have pity on Serbia, there is still little left of it.
  64. 0
    1 February 2022 23: 14
    If we were to conduct a survey among Serbian citizens, probably at least 80% would be happy with the arrival of the Russian Army. But there is a but... from 1999. by the signing of the Kumanovo Treaty between NATO and the Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia, later Serbia, Serbia is actually under the control of NATO. Not only the surrounding states in NATO are the main factor, there is also an agreement from 2006 where NATO will be able to use the territory of Serbia for the transport of its troops. According to the collective security agreement, the size of the Serbian army is no more than 30 tons, and in addition, with the replacement of Milosevic, the new democratic government destroyed more than 70% of military equipment at the request of NATO and the West and sent almost the entire officer cadre who were in combat to retirement, and many to The Hague. Unfortunately, nothing happened with the change of democratic power in the elections and the arrival of Vucic’s party. The West put Vucic in power. Debt with loans from the West, a lot of NVO funding from the West, advisers, diplomacy, etc., candidacy for the EU (for 20-odd years with a lot of conditions) and many other factors will not allow Serbia to go where it wants. Even today NATO does not allow the Serbian air defense to install a radar in the south of Serbia, every step is controlled. In Kosovo, the US base now has about 5 tons of soldiers, until a couple of years ago there were 25 tons. In Bosnia, the former JNA airports are used by NATO. The Serbian people, despite everything, have only hope in Russia, and if possible, they would undoubtedly consider Russia’s military bases as their own. But the situation is what it is. Therefore, Serbia is following the only path it can, military neutrality. I don’t want to join NATO, but it’s impossible to join Russia.
    1. 0
      1 February 2022 23: 18
      I hope I explained our situation a little to my Russian brothers.
  65. 0
    2 February 2022 12: 36
    Will you also draw a map with flights to Serbia...how to fly there (I’m silent about the railway)?! I won’t say anything about the loyalty of the Serbs.
    1. Young people study and work in the EU and the USA, respectively, the entire elite is Western.
    2. There is no common border with the Russian Federation
    3. Surrounded by all the EU and US mongrels
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