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And pensions do not keep up with prices

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The other day I finally got my pension. As I understand it, already January.

My regular readers know that I live in a remote outback near Moscow, and I should also feel sorry for the sick postman. By the way, I have neighbors who are ready to “thank him” - each in their own way.

I don’t mind serving tea myself either, or something stronger, but I don’t want to let down and detain an elderly person - also a pensioner and also working.

But this is not what we are talking about - but about the pension itself, more precisely - about its size. We added a little over a thousand. I recalculated - exactly 5,9 percent to the previous one.

What is called, a tyutelka in a tyutelka, in accordance with my experience. Although not only me, everyone hoped either for the presidential "ten" - one more, or for an increase, which, again, was promised to us by the head of state.

True, Vladimir Vladimirovich did not stipulate the terms. And instead of ten thousand, only those who are already over 80 received all twelve.


Photo by: kremlin.ru

Sorry, specific, consider nothing, but again he promised beautifully.

And it's impossible not to believe. Now, they say, it's all up to the performers.

Well, and then the press secretary of our popularly elected Dmitry Peskov confirmed the statements of his boss a couple of times.
And, above all, the fact that the issue of indexing pensions above the level of current inflation is, well, simply nowhere more relevant. Peskov also noted that the head of state still keeps this issue under control.

Finally, it sounded completely unconvincing - "soon the government of the Russian Federation will announce possible options for increasing payments."

I dare to ask, soon - this is when?

Peskov, which is typical, was followed by experts, but for some reason they began to voice something real after the payment of the January “old-age allowance”, more precisely, due to the inability to work at 100.

And pensions do not keep up with prices

And as soon as respected experts from the economy started talking about the fact that pensions would be indexed again, I remembered an anecdote from stagnant times. About how Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev was asked why we have such problems with meat. The Secretary General's response was:

“While our people are advancing with leaps and bounds towards communism, the cattle is not keeping up...”

Do you have to count yourself?


Indeed, it will have to, since the Ministry of Labor of the Russian Federation, where your author did not easily get through, is still “preparing proposals for additional compensation for high inflation for pensioners.” As I was given to understand - on the direct instructions of the President.

You might think that after Putin's speeches, there were no such "direct" instructions. Forgive me for repeating myself - from January 1, 2022, insurance pensions increased by exactly the 5,9% promised by the same Ministry of Labor, I myself thought.

However, at the end of the year, even official inflation, not to mention the rise in prices for key products and goods, turned out to be noticeably higher than these percentages.

The Ministry of Finance is now arguing with the Ministry of Economy, how much to announce - eight, 8,5% or more?

Let's wait, it's not so burning, although they will count according to official data, and not according to the figures that the guarantor voiced.

Rosstat’s preliminary estimate already says that the final inflation in Russia in 2021 was 8,39%. As they say, both ours and yours. Indexing won't make much of a difference. Personally, your author will get another 250-300 rubles, no more. Accurately for a dozen loaves of white.


After the Crimean spring, the first horrors of sanctions and the retaliatory food embargo, we managed to forget a bit what a creeping but continuous price increase is. 2021 reminded me. In addition to the pandemic, it is very unpleasant.

And now, because of the passions in Kazakhstan and the showdown with the “red lines” for NATO, expect the ruble to collapse, and then prices will climb even faster. You wouldn't wish this scenario on your enemy. No matter how much we are convinced of the presence of "airbags".

If Putin said


And although they say that to promise is not to marry, we are somehow used to the fact that the guarantor usually keeps his word with us.

But usually not always yet, and this did not happen with the retirement age, although it is believed that there were very serious objective reasons for this.

The people, however, evaluate these reasons in their own way - "officials stole." Well, as you know, we don’t just hand over “ours”.

And yet, payments will be indexed - there is hardly any doubt about this, especially when there is money for it.

As they are for other "gifts from the authorities", which is written about in VO more than once (HYPER). But the same economist Yevgeny Ivanov, who is actually quite familiar to me, confident both in the timeliness and in the volume of payments, reminds me of the procedures "which must be worked out before the final decision."

Now, if I had heard this from Dmitry Peskov or another "Kremlin nightingale", I would not have been surprised at all. This is a frank excuse for officials who will also make good money on the fact that they will scrupulously prescribe those very procedures for a long time and stubbornly.

“If Putin said that indexation would happen and the difference with inflation would be compensated, then it would be so.”

It's the same expert.

But paying later is often the same as not paying at all. Especially if prices continue to rise.

And this is precisely the least doubt about this, although other experts immediately after the New Year holidays vied with each other to promise the people a reduction in prices for everything that is possible. Meanwhile, officials will look for "the most suitable way to issue this money."

You might think that for some of the pensioners there really is a difference whether it will be automatic pension accruals, or one-time or partial additional payments over a certain period.


Frame: film "Blow! Another blow!" (1968)

In the old movie "Blow, another blow!" this was said from the rostrum of the St. Petersburg stadium through the lips of a taxi driver - the hero of the brilliant Alexei Smirnov:

"Time is being pulled, they are catching up on the counter."
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  1. paul3390
    paul3390 14 January 2022 15: 05
    +40
    And what - is there someone else who still believes the promises of our homegrown Elbasy even a little bit??? belay what
    1. Civil
      Civil 14 January 2022 15: 21
      +49
      1. According to Rosstat, the average life expectancy of men in the Russian Federation in 2019 was 67,1 years.
      2. According to the same Rosstat, due to the coronavirus, life expectancy has already fallen by 2020 years in 2.1.
      3. And to the delight of the Ministry of Finance, the Central Bank, the PFR, the deputies who adopted the law on pension reform, the average life expectancy of men in 2021 fell below 65 years.

      All who have not died before 65 are American agents who undermine the Russian economy.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 14 January 2022 15: 52
        +27
        All who did not die before 65 are American agents who undermine the economy of the Russian Federation

        But - we all now have a fucking incentive to live - to smoke the sky as long as possible, just to spite these parasites and enemies of the people .. wink
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 14 January 2022 17: 24
          +9
          Quote: paul3390
          But - we all now have a fucking incentive to live ...

          Yes, yes, I even calculated how much you need ... Now only forward, only forward!
          1. My address
            My address 14 January 2022 19: 13
            +21
            The head of the Central Bank said that food inflation in 2021 is 10,8%. Oh well.
            And also from the budget, i.e. 260 billion rubles went into agriculture from us, FROM US!, which gave a good harvest, plus world food prices rose. Hence what? They explain to us in an accessible way that when it is profitable to sell THERE, then we must endure an internal price increase, so that we get it. And when it is unprofitable to sell THERE, then we must endure internal price increases, otherwise there will be fewer billionaires.
            And a couple of jokes about inflation:
            Prices go up and up. One thing is good, inflation is only 8,4%. lol
            Inflation, according to the government, is only 8,4. And it feels so far beyond 20.: fellow
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 14 January 2022 19: 37
              +15
              How far away are they from the people? How they are criminally far from the people. But the XNUMXth century cannot be returned. And people now read, write, and some people can think. This rapid estrangement from the people will backfire, sooner or later...
            2. Starover_Z
              Starover_Z 15 January 2022 17: 46
              +4
              Quote: My address
              Prices go up and up. One thing is good, inflation is only 8,4%.
              Inflation, according to the government, is only 8,4. And it feels so far beyond 20.:

              And pensions do not keep up with prices

              So pensions, they are old, they can hardly rearrange their legs, and the prices are young, nimble, that's how they grow and run, you can catch up with FIG!
          2. zenion
            zenion 19 January 2022 17: 51
            -2
            The whole trouble is not only that forward. They can also come in from behind. The people should be glad that they did not compare with the German concentration camps, where not everyone received even a part. And they died on time.
        2. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 14 January 2022 18: 42
          +16
          Quote: paul3390
          just to spite these parasites and enemies of the people ..

          Do you think 65 is all? Finally? It will be necessary, and 70 will be drawn. And it is very necessary, and 100 will turn out. yes
          Personally, I think that I will see the final dismantling of the pension system. And what about the liquidation of contributions, simultaneous with the dismantling .... Here there is no confidence at all. Yeah.
          Well, in the best, just ideal option for us, the PF will still be brought to a positive balance. Well, we have the same state-in not for the inhabitants, but for profit. Is not it?
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 14 January 2022 19: 37
            +7
            Do you think 65 is all? Finally? It will be necessary, and 70 will be drawn.

            So you will never die with them. belay Like - a pension fund as an elixir of immortality? what
      2. Proton
        Proton 14 January 2022 17: 03
        +19
        By the way.
        A new bill is being prepared that saying "Long Live" on older people's birthdays will equate to extremism in terms of the pension fund.
        Be attentive and careful!
        laughing
        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 14 January 2022 17: 48
          +16
          And although they say that to promise is not to marry, we are somehow used to the fact that the guarantor usually keeps his word with us.
          thanks... i laughed so hard...
      3. expert
        expert 14 January 2022 20: 20
        -5
        Dear Vadim!
        I asked, just now, in the search "Average life expectancy in Russia." Result: 70,1.
        Given the pandemic. This is very sad.
        In Germany, where I live, men are 78,9 and women are 83,6.
        But with a pension, I can assure you, a disaster.
        If a person was not a government official, then he receives a pension too large to die and too small to survive.
        So we are all in the same boat.
        1. Civil
          Civil 15 January 2022 20: 09
          +1
          Quote: Fachmann
          Dear Vadim!
          I asked, just now, in the search "Average life expectancy in Russia." Result: 70,1.
          Given the pandemic. This is very sad.
          In Germany, where I live, men are 78,9 and women are 83,6.
          But with a pension, I can assure you, a disaster.
          If a person was not a government official, then he receives a pension too large to die and too small to survive.
          So we are all in the same boat.

          Do not be lazy, find out the average life expectancy of men, and not all) and rely on Rosstat, he does not lie)
    2. V means B
      V means B 15 January 2022 10: 52
      +1
      Judging by the cons - there is)))
  2. prior
    prior 14 January 2022 15: 14
    +14
    But everything is for the people, everything is for the people ..... and the retirement age, and the nullified constitution, and indexation half as much as inflation, and universal vaccination.
    But our people are not the same, not the same at all. Whatever, it's not enough.
  3. yuriy55
    yuriy55 14 January 2022 15: 19
    +11
    Naturally, what pensions will keep up with the prices that are set "from the bulldozer"?
    VAT for trade is a brake on development. If the size of a progressive sales tax (which SHOULD stop the rampant greed of the seller) can somehow influence prices and keep them in check, then it requires a completely different bookkeeping.
    This is what brainy figures came up with (confused) the system for calculating pensions, they could not indicate profit based on income-expense data ...
  4. Yaroslavl
    Yaroslavl 14 January 2022 15: 26
    +30
    Putin lied not only about the pension reform ... but 25 million jobs? And an income of $ 2500 per family member by 2020? And one hundred square meters by 2020 for a family of three .... and so on)
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    1. prior
      prior 14 January 2022 15: 37
      +17
      Thank you, comrade Mavrodi.
      1. Rubi0
        Rubi0 14 January 2022 17: 42
        .
        Good money means good risks, if you want stability, be content with minimal interest. No, you can believe in communist slogans, a bright future, and that the Central Committee of the Party will decide everything for you and take risks, but then I'm afraid you will be left with nothing at all)
    2. yuriy55
      yuriy55 14 January 2022 15: 38
      +21
      Quote: Rubi0
      what is the problem?

      The problem is that pension savings in these non-profit (non-state) pension funds are disappearing along with the funds ...
      There are fewer and fewer non-state pension funds (NPFs): in 2017 there were 66 of them, even earlier - more than a hundred, now - 43. If the NPF leaves the market, what happens to pension money?...
      Details here:
      https://www.banki.ru/news/daytheme/?id=10955464
      1. Rubi0
        Rubi0 14 January 2022 17: 09
        .
        I already wrote in another thread, so maybe it is necessary to demand not a pension, but working laws?
        1. Revival
          Revival 14 January 2022 20: 28
          +8
          It is quite possible, as it seems to me, to turn out to be "a terrorist from a foreign gang that has infiltrated out of nowhere")))
    3. NKT
      NKT 14 January 2022 16: 15
      +6
      And pay NPF interest for the use of money? They will be happy to use it, and all their jambs, if anything, will be attributed to you.
      It is better to start investing yourself, for example, in index funds.
      1. Rubi0
        Rubi0 14 January 2022 17: 47
        .
        An excellent idea and such a tool as investing was also given by the state into your hands, you just need to take it already, right now you can open an investment account in any bank or use their ready-made portfolios.
    4. bk0010
      bk0010 15 January 2022 00: 40
      +16
      Quote: Rubi0
      What prevents you from transferring to a non-profit pension fund?
      Having brains gets in the way. Are you holding on to lies? First, they prescribe the minimum profitability, and when the time for payments is right, they will close.
  6. yuriy55
    yuriy55 14 January 2022 15: 27
    +12
    The Ministry of Finance is now arguing with the Ministry of Economy, how much to announce - eight, 8,5% or more?
    Let's wait, it's not so burning, although they will count according to official data, and not according to the figures that the guarantor voiced.
    Rosstat’s preliminary estimate already says that the final inflation in Russia in 2021 was 8,39%. As they say, both ours and yours. Indexing won't make much of a difference. Personally, your author will get another 250-300 rubles, no more. Accurately for a dozen loaves of white.

    Here, for the most part, we are adults and let's agree: either we write the truth or refer to reliable sources, or we don't write.
    Read!
    The Government approved amendments on the indexation of pensions in 2022 by 8,6%
    Read more in PG: https://www.pnp.ru/politics/v-pravitelstve-odobrili-popravki-ob-indeksacii-pensiy-v-2022-godu-na-86.html
    In recalculation, my wife's pension will be more than 22 (veteran of labor), which means an increase of 300 rubles. I don’t know what kind of money, but even my insurance part (civilian pension) will grow by more than 1 rubles ...
    But in general, the law on pensions was invented by the enemies of the Russian people, who thought that pensioners simply would not live to see it ...
    hi
    1. ch28k38
      ch28k38 14 January 2022 18: 00
      +21
      And here, to spite the enemies, I lived to 78 and I’ll still drink blood from the FIU!
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 14 January 2022 18: 13
        +16
        Quote: ch28k38
        And here, to spite the enemies, I lived to 78 and I’ll still drink blood from the FIU!

        laughing Lucky! To your health!drinks
      2. Zyablicev43
        Zyablicev43 14 January 2022 18: 34
        +12
        Identity 78. Hold on, godok!
      3. sergo1914
        sergo1914 14 January 2022 22: 58
        +11
        Quote: ch28k38
        And here, to spite the enemies, I lived to 78 and I’ll still drink blood from the FIU!


        Finish them off with maternity capital.
    2. Yarhann
      Yarhann 16 January 2022 03: 39
      -3
      The law on pensions was invented by those who know how to count. You first take an interest in the income of the PF, and then write your heresy. A long time ago, more than 50% of the expenditure part of the PF is direct subventions from the FB (more than 4 trees per year). Speaking in simple terms, pensions should be two times lower than they are now - if in terms of garlic, according to how much you and your kids pay taxes in the Pension Fund.
      Such is the harsh reality gray-haired schoolchildren. When friends of the people come to power, your pension will instantly be cut by 2 times, because transfers from the FB will immediately stop.
      In order not to live up to 65, and women up to 60 probably need to sour it every day and at the same time go home by car ugly - then I agree the probability of surviving to 65 is sharply reduced.
      I have grandfathers who went through the war, pre-war and post-war famine, let’s say those living in the Spartan conditions of the USSR lived to be 80 years old, while they didn’t sit in offices, but worked at the factory) Yes, they didn’t drink like cattle recklessly - probably that’s why they lived to 80, but if there were no war and health diets of the 30s 50s, and indeed an abundance of tasty and healthy food in Soviet stores, they might have lived longer)
  7. Glagol1
    Glagol1 14 January 2022 15: 28
    +21
    Estimates by independent centers and experts surprisingly fit into the range of 14-17%. As if they were talking. As for 8,5, you can laugh, that's just sad all this. How brazenly the authorities lie for any reason.
  8. Emergency
    Emergency 14 January 2022 15: 33
    +21
    The wife was still happy about the May decrees, which now turn 10 years old. I hoped for the promised salary increase. laughing Didn't wait. Now he rejoices at the promised high pension. laughing As she was a naive girl, she remained so.
    1. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don 14 January 2022 15: 53
      +8
      Take advantage of her naivete and promise too)))) but on the topic for a long time I have not expected anything from him and do not believe, only with concern I think what will happen when he retires and the division of power between the clans begins.
      1. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 14 January 2022 18: 00
        +6
        there will be no battle this clan (gang) just cannot be moved
    2. alone
      alone 14 January 2022 16: 14
      +5
      Quote: Emergency
      for the promised salary increase.

      Quote: Emergency
      Now he rejoices at the promised high pension.

      The promise is good because you can then forget it completely wassat
    3. ch28k38
      ch28k38 14 January 2022 18: 02
      +4
      Don't wait, don't be afraid, don't ask!
  9. ancestors from Don
    ancestors from Don 14 January 2022 15: 45
    +16
    A pension in the USSR could allow one to live relatively well and still help children and grandchildren, Russia's pension is survival ((((If Peskov does not agree, you can experiment on his family.
    1. expert
      expert 14 January 2022 20: 31
      +2
      Let me tell you, Russia is a capitalist state.
      My beloved USSR was killed with delight, with the hysterically joyful support of the then young, who today whine about the lack of funds for the onset of old age.
      Dear, you wanted it then. I don't think you personally.
      "To the foundation, and then ..." So, after 30 years, this "then" came.
  10. Thrifty
    Thrifty 14 January 2022 15: 45
    +15
    It has become a bad rule to chat up any unfulfilled communication with a talking shop, or blame the "external enemy" for everything! Bureaucrats receive their paychecks on time, but they do not have the right to receive a percentage of this money. However, mutual responsibility at all levels of power deprives the people of even the hope that the government will suddenly turn to face us and really start a war on corruption ...
  11. fiberboard
    fiberboard 14 January 2022 15: 47
    +26
    We are somehow used to the fact that our guarantor keeps his word. After this phrase, I laughed for five minutes. The author cheered me up.
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  13. Adagka
    Adagka 14 January 2022 15: 52
    +19
    600 rub. they will add to the pension - an attraction of unheard-of generosity .... and meanwhile in neighboring Poland, where there is neither oil nor gas, they do not reduce or even remove VAT on fuel, gas, electricity, products ...
    1. The popuas
      The popuas 14 January 2022 16: 03
      +10
      Wait now we will conquer Poland ... it will be like ours wassat
  14. Amateur
    Amateur 14 January 2022 15: 53
    .
    Interestingly, if the pension had not been raised, then what reason would Madame-Author have to be indignant?
  15. your vsr 66-67
    your vsr 66-67 14 January 2022 15: 56
    +8
    Well, what can I say? Everything is rightly said! Please only about "tutelka in tyutelku". I recalculated, and it turned out that my wife and I, including myself, were slightly underestimated. A penny, about 30-40 kopecks, seems uncritical, but it's a shame that officials are trying to snatch a piece of the pie as soon as they can. As they say, a penny saves a ruble .. Well, on a national scale, 30-40 kopecks, you know that ...
  16. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 14 January 2022 16: 06
    +23
    The government and the State Duma promised to index pensions by 1% from January 8,6. Considering that 5,9% has already been indexed, they will add 2,7%, i.e. a little more than 300-400 rubles.
    Widely advertised.
    But the assistants to the deputies were given a salary increase from 300 to 000 rubles. Almost 387%. Those. quietly and peacefully, without advertising for themselves loved ones indexed wages to the real value of inflation. And pensioners on the fictitious Rosstat.
    Does production live on another planet?
    1. AUL
      AUL 14 January 2022 17: 03
      +6
      Quote: 16112014nk
      But the assistants to the deputies were given a salary increase from 300 to 000 rubles. Almost 387%. Those. quietly and peacefully, without advertising for themselves loved ones indexed wages to the real value of inflation.

      For it is said: let the hand of the one who offends himself wither! (The slogan of the one who pours on three). wink And we have more and more such "spills". And the fact that they "spill" - less and less!
      1. Kushka
        Kushka 14 January 2022 18: 10
        +4
        This is the oldest "slogan" - it is written in Scripture.
        Namely - IT WILL NOT BE FUCKED FROM THE THRESHING OX.
        Those. if the thrashing ox bent its head and what is there
        chewed, the man did not even notice.
        But if all sorts of crows flew there, the man fired
        on them from all trunks.
        The soul of a Christian is kind - well, there will not be a head
        government, or which minister, to ride the subway,
        Indeed.
        Is he just "threshing" as it should?
        Indeed
  17. Tagan
    Tagan 14 January 2022 16: 12
    .
    Quote: Adagka
    ... and in the meantime, in neighboring Poland, where there is no oil or gas, there is not a damn thing lowering or even removing VAT on fuel, gas, electricity, food ...

    Well, so far, they manage to sell Russophobia and apples to themselves))
    They also still have someone to sit on their neck.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 14 January 2022 17: 52
      +3
      They are quite self-sufficient.
  18. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 14 January 2022 16: 16
    -2
    Sorry, specific, consider nothing, but again he promised beautifully.
    And it's impossible not to believe. Now, they say, it's all up to the performers.
    He did not promise, but indicated to recalculate the surcharge by 8,6%, and "the executors have already prepared papers for 5,9%, sign it, we will not have time to do this, but we will recalculate next month. request
  19. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 14 January 2022 16: 17
    +14
    In Russia, if by the time of retirement you have not stolen enough money or do not retire from the post of judge or prosecutor, for example, then it is very stupid to count on a decent old age.
    1. V means B
      V means B 15 January 2022 11: 07
      +3
      Yes, I have an uncle judge and your words are completely true.
  20. alone
    alone 14 January 2022 16: 22
    +15
    The author, of course, touched on a sore subject .. I would advise her to carefully get acquainted with the party program for the development of the United Russia country for 20 years. A lot of interesting things have been written there .. I think after reading it, she will write a dozen similar articles to us ..
    ps Believe the words of an old lonely person who, at least a little, but has life experience .. there can be no good foreign policy if it is not connected with the internal one .. And the refrigerator with its internal contents always wins the "talking box" sooner or later
  21. Esaul
    Esaul 14 January 2022 16: 46
    +17
    They have been keeping problematic issues under control for 22 years already - indexation of pensions and salaries, deoffshorization, problems in medicine, corruption, poverty, emergency housing, etc. But this is all in words, and there are no real deeds and never will be.
  22. Adagka
    Adagka 14 January 2022 16: 46
    +13
    Quote: Tagan
    Quote: Adagka
    ... and in the meantime, in neighboring Poland, where there is no oil or gas, there is not a damn thing lowering or even removing VAT on fuel, gas, electricity, food ...

    Well, so far, they manage to sell Russophobia and apples to themselves))
    They also still have someone to sit on their neck.

    it’s bad that we don’t sit on anyone’s neck, but on the contrary, all these classmates, friends, former coaches and others, who suddenly become brilliant businessmen and part-time billionaires on the cut of the budget pie, are sitting on ours.
  23. Puhly67
    Puhly67 14 January 2022 17: 38
    +12
    So. working pensioner. this creature. which is why it works. that the pension is meager. Further. he receives a pension and has less additional accruals. than not working. but here's what's weird. He works all the same deducts 13%. just wonderful.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 16 January 2022 09: 18
      -1
      Quote: Puhly67
      working pensioner. this being. which is why it works. that the pension is meager.

      Indexing for them is under the control of the government, the presidential administration and the very! And silence....
  24. fa2998
    fa2998 14 January 2022 17: 40
    +9
    Quote: yuriy55
    The Government approved amendments on the indexation of pensions in 2022 by 8,6%

    Well, of course, well done! They only calculate inflation at the prices of the beginning of the year and at the end. They will fool you, but not by an order of magnitude. And you remember what they arranged with prices in the summer, how many billions they pulled out of the wallets of buyers. Banal carrots were 140-160 rubles, beets 120-130 rubles. Despite the fact that in 2020 they cost 15-20 rubles. Price growth is 600-800%!! Yes, they have fallen now, but they were not included in the statistics hi hi
    1. Foul skeptic
      Foul skeptic 14 January 2022 17: 55
      +1
      They only consider inflation at the prices of the beginning of the year and at the end.

      No. Inflation is calculated monthly by Rosstat.
  25. Million
    Million 14 January 2022 17: 44
    +14
    Putin fucked all of Russia, not counting a few thousand people ..
  26. Kushka
    Kushka 14 January 2022 18: 19
    -9
    "in neighboring Poland, where there is no oil, no gas, not a damn thing at all, they are reducing or even removing VAT on fuel, gas, electricity, food ...". "

    The share of the cost of housing and communal services in the income of the Poles - 23%
    (Romanians -25%, Ukrainians 57%), data for the Russian Federation did not come across.
    Yes, and a huge country with very different regions - one figure
    will never be.
  27. Tagan
    Tagan 14 January 2022 18: 42
    -1
    Quote: Kronos
    They are quite self-sufficient.

    Since when? Also say that psheks are donors))
  28. bandabas
    bandabas 14 January 2022 19: 16
    +11
    My friend 4 years ago became a working pensioner on the 1st list in the Far North. He cannot receive the funded part of the pension at once - the limit for the "survival period" has been exceeded. It was said in the FIU - either wait for the age of a regular pension and smear it with a thin layer "for survival", or, if you leave this world, the heirs will receive. Probably. And how much such "frozen money" is spinning! what
  29. Mikhail Sidorov
    Mikhail Sidorov 14 January 2022 20: 30
    +9
    A bit of math. Rosstat data. The average pension in Russia in 2021 was 15800 rubles. Additional mortality in 2021 amounted to 600 thousand people. Of these, 75 percent are people of retirement age. We multiply. The state saved 7.11 billion rubles on pensioners. per month or 85 billion rubles. in year. Oil prices are higher than budgeted, gas prices are record highs, and steel and rolled products have become very expensive.
    WHERE IS THE MONEY OF THE LORD RULERS?
    1. bandabas
      bandabas 14 January 2022 22: 26
      +8
      Defective managers sit. Which promise, when we "rally" we will live in chocolate. Starting from the first.
  30. lot
    lot 14 January 2022 21: 37
    +4
    the guarantor keeps his word

    Didn't read further. Thought it was real.
  31. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 15 January 2022 02: 22
    +5
    Quote: Civil
    All who did not die before 65 are American agents who undermine the economy of the Russian Federation

    Quote: Civil
    All who did not die before 65 are American agents who undermine the economy of the Russian Federation

    Burn out with a red-hot iron, these enemies of the Leader of the Nation!
    Declare a hunt for those who are trying to live after the accrual of pensions.
    But seriously, how are they doing okay.
    They scammed money from the FIU, pumped money into the National Welfare Fund (the charter of which provides for spending from the fund to provide citizens of the Russian Federation with decent pensions), then the Leader waved an increase in the pension age, although everyone knows that our men, in the majority, do not live up to 60 years.
    Coincidence...
    Well done, they calculated everything, multi-move, checks and balances.
    PS One of these days one more familiar pre-pensioner "was exhausted", died in 56 years, there were two children. The wife is unable to work for health reasons.
    Question: who will take advantage of the deductions for his seniority, not small (the salary of a friend was decent) deductions to the FIU?
    1. V means B
      V means B 15 January 2022 11: 14
      +6
      I think their names should be looked for in the Forbes lists and the like, but I would like to see them in the shooting lists.
  32. riwas
    riwas 15 January 2022 07: 37
    +2
    "Time is being pulled, they are catching up on the counter."

    "Ulita is coming, someday she will be."
    1. SavranP
      SavranP 18 January 2022 13: 46
      0
      In fact, Putin spoke about pensions after the New Year, 5.9% of the pension counted before. The spring session of the Duma has already met, they promise to make adjustments to the budget promptly. Accordingly, even before February, the additionally accrued balance of the pension will be paid to everyone, and from February 8.6% will begin to receive a pension. Of course, it’s not enough, I won’t argue, but such is the pension system of modern Russia. In practice, it remained from the RSFSR, but in the 90s the then liberal government reduced the pension period to five years. People shuttled, worked for themselves, received salaries in envelopes, and so on. did not pay into the pension fund. Then they came to receive a pension and for them the pension turned out to be very small, but who is to blame here?
  33. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 15 January 2022 12: 52
    +3
    Quote: Fachmann
    Dear Vadim!
    I asked, just now, in the search "Average life expectancy in Russia." Result: 70,1.
    Given the pandemic. This is very sad.
    In Germany, where I live, men are 78,9 and women are 83,6.
    But with a pension, I can assure you, a disaster.
    If a person was not a government official, then he receives a pension too large to die and too small to survive.
    So we are all in the same boat.

    We're not exactly in the same boat. According to some eyewitnesses, in Germany, recipients of low pensions have significant social support ...
    1. expert
      expert 15 January 2022 15: 48
      +3
      You are absolutely right.
      In Germany, if the pension is below a certain level, then the pensioner is entitled to a supplement, the so-called Grundsicherungsrente. In other words, social assistance. Naturally, this entails concomitant restrictions on financial freedom. Car, own apartment or house, amount of money in the bank account.
      And about the boat, I meant the absolutely disproportionate calculation of pensions compared to the years worked and earnings. Yes, and age, a full (already what they accrued) pension only from 67 years old. The topic has been actively exaggerated, since the 70s.
      So soon it will be.
      As an example, after 20 years of work in Germany, my wife received a pension of 456 euros. This level is even lower than social.
      Maybe for Russia this is a decent amount, but here there is a completely different level of costs and prices.
  34. Vladimir
    Vladimir 15 January 2022 13: 32
    +7
    In terms of average pensions, we are inferior to our former ones: exactly 10 times in Finland, and 3 times in Estonia.
  35. Borisych
    Borisych 16 January 2022 09: 23
    0
    Nothing can be changed in the pension system until the IMF employees in the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance change their jobs. Better, of course, for a part-time job in the port of Vanino. It is obvious. But Putin clings to these workers with terrible force, because he is afraid of change.
    He's so comfortable. So pensioners will have to swallow a 200-ruble increase, something like that.