Military Review

A US paratrooper who provoked a shootout with the Syrian military has been dropped by a US court.

121

Sergeant 1st Class Robert Nicoson, the American paratrooper who instigated the shootout with the Syrian military at the checkpoint, was dropped by a US court. There are even no complaints against him for ordering his subordinates to remove the video of the incident.


This is reported by the American newspaper Army Times.

The soldier's civil protection lawyer, Philip Stackhouse, claimed that the patrol had informed the command in advance that it would go to the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) checkpoint. He also stated that Nikoson's hostile actions against the SAA soldiers were made by him in order to prevent the Syrian attack on his unit.

The trial lasted a week, and more than 20 witnesses were called to the podium to testify

- said the lawyer.

The defendant was acquitted of all charges at a military court hearing in Fort Bragg, North Carolina. The decision was made by a jury, among whom were two lieutenant colonels and six sergeant majors.

On August 17, 2020, in northeastern Syria, American paratrooper Robert Nikoson provoked a conflict at a government checkpoint and opened fire. In the skirmish, one Syrian was killed and two wounded. There were no casualties among the US military.

The incident was brought to trial in the United States and the US sergeant went unpunished.

Photos used:
https://www.facebook.com/82ndAirborneDivision/
121 comment
Ad

Subscribe to our Telegram channel, regularly additional information about the special operation in Ukraine, a large amount of information, videos, something that does not fall on the site: https://t.me/topwar_official

Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. vervolk
    vervolk 9 January 2022 19: 31
    +45
    Yes, they killed children in Afghanistan with a drone "by mistake", then they conducted an investigation, admitted that they were mistaken and ... did not punish anyone in any way. they do not care at all until they themselves are treated the same way!
    1. Lesnik21
      Lesnik21 9 January 2022 20: 07
      +23
      Why didn't the Syrians shoot them with grenade launchers? Here the servicemen attacked the servicemen. Frightened by the helicopter, that's all. Why mention children here. If the US is not legal there, why weren't they destroyed?
      1. Nikon O'Conor
        Nikon O'Conor 9 January 2022 20: 14
        +31
        oddly enough, I completely agree with the Forester. Why didn’t they destroy these 2 pelvis from the RPG? scared? there was no RPG ?, a strange war where the people of the country do not want to fight for their homeland.
        1. Lesnik21
          Lesnik21 9 January 2022 20: 21
          +2
          They don't want that word, but in order not to go on the attack, they burn batteries on the tanks.
          1. Nikon O'Conor
            Nikon O'Conor 9 January 2022 20: 27
            +21
            these are okay ... it happens (although I can't imagine when it would be with us), but when the main (potential) soldiers aged 18 to 30 took it and piled it all together to Europe ... instead of defending their homeland ....... this is beyond my understanding, probably in the psychology of society I am a complete zero!
            1. Lesnik21
              Lesnik21 9 January 2022 20: 42
              -24
              You are not a complete zero, it's just the East, and this is, as Comrade Sukhov said, "a delicate matter." They simply do not want to fight for Assad, and for others, too. They treat him very badly.
              1. Nikon O'Conor
                Nikon O'Conor 9 January 2022 21: 16
                +15
                Yes, not for Assad you need to fight, not for someone, Motherland is the place (territory, country) where your family lives, where your ancestors lived, this is your culture, your future ... But take it and just run away to where pay benefits?
                The Muslim world seems to have changed along with the European one, only I personally do not see the cultural connection of these changes ...
                1. Lesnik21
                  Lesnik21 9 January 2022 21: 42
                  +2
                  Their homeland is where it is warm and satisfying. Well, accordingly, you don't need to work. You just don't know yet how our officers reason, even I, who had seen everything, was shocked. So many people do not care about your words about the Motherland, and this is reality.
                  1. Nikon O'Conor
                    Nikon O'Conor 9 January 2022 22: 01
                    +5
                    I disagree with you. I personally know 3 generals (they are now retired), they stayed here, where it is not warm and not full ...
                    1. Lesnik21
                      Lesnik21 9 January 2022 22: 06
                      +1
                      This applies more to young people.
              2. Victor Tsenin
                Victor Tsenin 9 January 2022 21: 31
                +5
                Assad is treated differently. I personally heard from the good old advisers the truth about the Arab armies, well, you probably know it yourself. And then it reads, as they started for the truth, finished for the peace, worthless.
                1. Nikon O'Conor
                  Nikon O'Conor 9 January 2022 21: 46
                  0
                  Give them Allah! That's what my wife says))
                  1. Victor Tsenin
                    Victor Tsenin 9 January 2022 21: 49
                    0
                    May God give them to finish this tragic action in the right way) Once again I am convinced - what a nice resource.
                2. Lesnik21
                  Lesnik21 9 January 2022 21: 47
                  -1
                  He told me how it is, well, they supplemented me. The picture is not very good there, we need more than them.
                  1. Victor Tsenin
                    Victor Tsenin 9 January 2022 21: 51
                    +2
                    Here is an interesting question, we, of course, also need to know what. But the citizens of this country and only these citizens need their own country.
                    1. Lesnik21
                      Lesnik21 9 January 2022 21: 55
                      +1
                      Honestly, I didn't notice. There, as we had in Chechen companies, some are at war, while others earn money, they love girls, etc.
                      1. Victor Tsenin
                        Victor Tsenin 9 January 2022 22: 02
                        +1
                        Quite another, about whom the war is, and who the girls understand this, but the mass exodus, the betrayal of the country and the unwillingness to fight, here are old things, known to many.
                      2. Lesnik21
                        Lesnik21 9 January 2022 22: 04
                        +1
                        Here we need to think about our country, how to educate young people. And let them figure it out themselves.
                      3. Nikon O'Conor
                        Nikon O'Conor 9 January 2022 22: 18
                        +2
                        for this +.
                        I do not understand why you are in the minuses ... Did you crush someone's favorite egg?))
                      4. militarist63
                        militarist63 10 January 2022 01: 07
                        +2
                        I don't understand why you are in the negative ...
                        This often happens here! sad Enough "good people" ... hi
                      5. Lesnik21
                        Lesnik21 10 January 2022 15: 46
                        -1
                        Cons or pros, what's the difference. All people are different think differently and well, minus sink without explanation or offend.
                      6. Victor Tsenin
                        Victor Tsenin 9 January 2022 22: 26
                        +1
                        We think, we educate, ours loves the Motherland. But in regard to holistic education, I will note the absence of such a policy, unless, of course, the creature called Milokhin is not considered a policy (horror).
                      7. Nikon O'Conor
                        Nikon O'Conor 9 January 2022 22: 58
                        +4
                        Imagine I'm from Orenburg .... I am told Orenburg "gave birth to Shatunov and Milokhin."
                        I know Yura Shatunov, but I don’t know the fagot Dan and I don’t want to know, let the admins slap me the 2nd warning, I will not back down))
                      8. Victor Tsenin
                        Victor Tsenin 9 January 2022 23: 00
                        +2
                        That's right, don't back down, we don't fucking need Cute, but let's finish about him, it would be about what)
                3. Cutter
                  Cutter 10 January 2022 03: 12
                  +1
                  He also stated that Nikoson's hostile actions against the SAA soldiers were made by him in order to prevent the Syrian attack on his unit.
                  It looks like there is a lawyer, like a prosecutor ... But what's surprising, they don't give up their own ...
              3. Nikon O'Conor
                Nikon O'Conor 10 January 2022 02: 13
                0
                hrenase ... if you are in the negative, you need to continue to wet you in the "toilet".
                Morons damn "(I'm in the bath) cretins .....
            2. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 9 January 2022 21: 08
              +7
              My classmate, who fought in Afghanistan in 82-83, was surprised to say that the military profession there is not at all prestigious. The main life dream of the absolute majority is to become a merchant. For us, who grew up in a military town with fathers - participants in the Second World War, it was savagery. In Syria, it seems that this is the case too.
              1. Victor Tsenin
                Victor Tsenin 9 January 2022 21: 33
                +6
                No, it’s not like that - to dump a healthy peasant in the Federal Republic of Germany, perdol German women and live on welfare, that's how it is. And it's not only and not so much about the Syrians.
                1. Aviator_
                  Aviator_ 9 January 2022 21: 38
                  +2
                  Well, I'm not talking about that time, then there were no "unfortunate refugees" in Germany yet
                  1. Victor Tsenin
                    Victor Tsenin 9 January 2022 22: 52
                    0
                    We are talking about one time.
                2. just exp
                  just exp 9 January 2022 22: 45
                  +1
                  Would you refuse to dump in Germany so as not to work, fuck German women and get 3-6 Russian salaries for it?
                  1. Victor Tsenin
                    Victor Tsenin 9 January 2022 22: 51
                    0
                    I refused a long time ago, I like the Motherland, I like the mentality, I like the soulfulness, and much more. I am not worried about money, I work a lot, I am satisfied, and my relatives are happy. Being in alcohol / drug ecstasy is constantly not good for a person, and I don't really know German women very well) I will stay in Saratov / Moscow, but thanks for asking.
                  2. Bolt cutter
                    Bolt cutter 10 January 2022 00: 00
                    0
                    dump to Germany so as not to work, fuck German women and get 3-6 Russian salaries for it?
                    In England, the allowance is approx. £ 80 a week is not a lot. In Germany, if not much more, they all try to roll in here. And contrary to popular belief, German women do not stand in line with the runners for women's happiness.
              2. saygon66
                saygon66 9 January 2022 21: 36
                +1
                In Syria, the same thing ... A colonel of the Syrian army kept a cafe in the town of advisers in my father's house. State the employees there received very little ... and even then the warriors of them were so-so. Is it only clan, hereditary.
                1. Victor Tsenin
                  Victor Tsenin 9 January 2022 21: 46
                  +1
                  What I'm talking about, thank you for your comment.
              3. dauria
                dauria 10 January 2022 01: 48
                +1
                My classmate, who fought in Afghanistan in 82-83, was surprised to say that the military profession there is not at all prestigious

                Not certainly in that way . I had a chance somehow to chat about life with "theirs" infantry summer. He studied in the USSR, spoke Russian quite passably. Something like caste division was visible among them. The chief - and his soldiers. Not like ours - the usual distance in subordination. Stronger . "I am higher and more important than you." We drank and have a snack. About that, about that. Salaries (they have pennies, 200 afoshes a month at the platoon commander). He boasted - "Two wives, I'm buying a third ..." I told him - "Why?" And then it just dawned on me that he wanted to say "I have achieved what I have achieved !!! Respect me"
                Well, another touch. They have flight personnel, even a flight technician - it's like we now have Kiselev with Skabeeva next to the make-up artist. The ambition among its own is incredible.
                But the dolt who killed himself, and the Su-17, and our guys with the Mi-6 in Khumri in 85 - so he is almost a chicken of "royal blood". Like this.
                1. Aviator_
                  Aviator_ 11 January 2022 18: 03
                  +1
                  It's clear. Their nobility, French rolls (sorry, flatbread) crunches. Hubermensch.
                  1. dauria
                    dauria 11 January 2022 20: 10
                    0
                    It's clear. Their honor,

                    laughing Well, almost like that. Only this "nobility" looked too poorly. And the fighters just pity him and aroused.
                    But we had a "fifth faculty" at our school with foreign students. So there, yes - rich Afghan peacocks. Especially against the background of the Vietnamese. We could afford both a taxi and a restaurant.
                    1. Aviator_
                      Aviator_ 11 January 2022 20: 14
                      +1
                      When I was studying, we didn't even have social friends, now they teach it to anyone - they taught the Vietnamese and even the South Koreans at one time. These Koreans were gouges, and the Vietnamese plowed like Papa Carlo.
                      1. dauria
                        dauria 11 January 2022 20: 22
                        0
                        When I studied, we didn't even have social friends

                        Well, our office was solid. Maybe that's why. I even saw the Ministry of Defense of Madagascar (Malagasy region) alive. We were lined up like a parade to pass in front of him - he paid in currency for his swindlers. So it is in 79th. Well, so every creature in pairs. From GDR pilots to blacks and Arabs of all shades.
                        They had their own hostel. And to us - a strict suggestion about the inadmissibility of contacts, and even more so, massacres. laughing
                      2. Aviator_
                        Aviator_ 11 January 2022 20: 27
                        +1
                        About the Germans from the GDR. My friend studied in Baumank in the 70s, he was an avid fan. Once at the stadium he was sitting next to the GDR Germans, so he taught them to pronounce the name of the goalkeeper of Tbilisi “Dynamo” - Anzor Kvazashvili for almost the entire match. By the end of the match, they had learned. I read the memoirs of a military doctor, how military doctors were taught at the St. Petersburg Military Medical Academy. The socialist camp is normal, but Africans are entirely the sons of tribal leaders, dumb as felt boots.
              4. Terran ghost
                Terran ghost 11 January 2022 17: 58
                -1
                The main dream of life of the absolute majority is to become a merchant

                And what's wrong with the desire to create your own business and engage in your own entrepreneurial activity?
            3. mitroha
              mitroha 9 January 2022 21: 51
              +2
              at a court-martial hearing at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. The decision was made by a jury, among whom were two lieutenant colonels and six sergeant majors.

              And not a single Syrian in the courtroom ...
              The same ridiculous judicial clowning as their "democratic" presidential elections. That's just in that and in that case, because of these clowns people are dying
            4. Palmyra
              Palmyra 9 January 2022 22: 12
              +1
              They poured into their ears that in Germany you can live for free, on benefits, do nothing, have children and get more preferences .. What else do they need? And then, you have to fight, take risks, restore. They have no such attachment.
            5. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 9 January 2022 23: 53
              +1
              Quote: Nikon OConor
              ... instead of defending your homeland ...

              They have no such concept. There is a tough clan system from time immemorial. And the Clan is above all, the highest value. And the "state" is ephemeral crap, which the former colonialists emulated on the map.

              Quote: Nikon OConor
              probably in the psychology of society I am a complete zero!

              This is called sociology. And your problem is not a lack of knowledge, but the very approach to this issue. Measuring everything with your yardstick is a banal chauvinism.
            6. Rusticolus
              Rusticolus 10 January 2022 05: 09
              +1
              probably in the psychology of society I am a complete zero!
              Yes you are right. One of my grandfathers did not like Stalin very much. There were reasons. But he put a lance in the fascist's ear. So he got a machine gun, and off we go. After the war, he went through a bitch war too. And I don’t think that he was right in that either. But he thrust the lance into the fascist's ear correctly. And even if such people stand up to defend their homeland, not the authorities. Then this is the people's war.
            7. The comment was deleted.
        2. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 9 January 2022 22: 14
          -2
          Then the Apache arrives, as a rule
      2. vervolk
        vervolk 9 January 2022 20: 38
        -1
        shoot back little by little, as far as possible: https://fishki.net/photo/2594963-suhie-fakty-o-kakih-poterjah-ssha-v-sirii-nikto-ne-dolzhen-znaty.html?utm_source=aab&sign = 375342845937479% 2C213206276354302
        1. Lesnik21
          Lesnik21 9 January 2022 21: 22
          -4
          DAISH yes, but I haven't heard about the armed forces of the SAR.
    2. Obi-Wan Kenobi
      Obi-Wan Kenobi 10 January 2022 05: 17
      -1
      That's why everyone is afraid of the Americans.
      If it were ours, everyone would be imprisoned.
  2. Bykov.
    Bykov. 9 January 2022 19: 37
    +4
    Window dressing, not court. If only the jury would have passed a guilty verdict. This is what I understand - not biased and impartial judging!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 9 January 2022 20: 09
      +3
      Quote: Bulls.
      Window dressing, not court. If only the jury would have passed a guilty verdict.

      Surprisingly, they haven't charged the Syrians yet. Well, "everyone knows" that the Yankees are always right (even the neighbors will say that).
    2. Lesnik21
      Lesnik21 9 January 2022 20: 31
      -4
      Refereeing at 5. The US Armed Forces attacked the SAR, and they did not meow, defenders. To present the sergeant for the award. Or did the helicopter interfere with them?
    3. Nikon O'Conor
      Nikon O'Conor 9 January 2022 20: 45
      +5
      This will not happen, we had, unfortunately, in the Chechen, but it will not be anywhere else, no country will surrender its soldier ...
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 9 January 2022 21: 40
        +5
        This will not happen, we had, unfortunately, in the Chechen, but it will not be anywhere else, no country will surrender its soldier ...

        Not just a soldier. Budanov, Ulman, Arakcheev - these are only famous
      2. Lesnik21
        Lesnik21 9 January 2022 21: 49
        -1
        Ours will hand over, and easily. There is an example.
      3. Nikon O'Conor
        Nikon O'Conor 9 January 2022 22: 11
        +1
        now the situation is just like that - he handed over his soldier - handed over the whole country and power ...
        so there are options ...
  3. gvozdan
    gvozdan 9 January 2022 19: 38
    +25
    Hence the conclusion that if an American soldier provokes it is necessary to bring down him immediately, and at the same time all his witnesses.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 9 January 2022 20: 32
      0
      Hence the conclusion that if an American soldier provokes it is necessary to bring down him immediately, and at the same time all his witnesses.
      The SAR servicemen need to be seriously dragged out: why not a single American soldier was buried. Given that this is a checkpoint. That is, some place equipped for conducting a database, with the appropriate weapons. And you must watch.
    2. Lesnik21
      Lesnik21 9 January 2022 20: 34
      -4
      Let them say thank you that the helicopter did not destroy their checkpoint.
      1. Nikon O'Conor
        Nikon O'Conor 9 January 2022 21: 43
        +1
        here the tactics are simple, to blame these shortcomings, and blame them over the hills from being hit by the turntables ..
        1. Lesnik21
          Lesnik21 9 January 2022 21: 52
          -2
          Not everything is as simple as we would like. It's bad to run away from a helicopter in the desert, even from your own. All the same, the bastard will get it.
          1. Nikon O'Conor
            Nikon O'Conor 9 January 2022 22: 06
            -1
            Damn, yes)) This is another movie))) Fell across the desert from the turntable))) Especially from my own !!!!)) If there is no connection))
            There is one trick here .... adopted from animals. bury yourself in hot sand ...
            1. Lesnik21
              Lesnik21 9 January 2022 22: 09
              -3
              We made a little mistake, the APC burned out. Good without corpses.
              1. Nikon O'Conor
                Nikon O'Conor 9 January 2022 22: 40
                +1
                Even at the briefing, they talked about .... expanded polystyrene covered with aluminized foil on top, in hardware stores dofiga, but where could the fighters get it?
              2. Nikon O'Conor
                Nikon O'Conor 9 January 2022 22: 44
                0
                Honestly, I don't even know how to bury yourself in the sand, laying this crap on top ... sur ...
  4. Yarik
    Yarik 9 January 2022 19: 39
    0
    In the place of pindo_sov, everyone would do this
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 January 2022 19: 46
    +5
    Americans in Syria on what basis? Aggressors in their purest form ... And they are NEVER to blame for anything! Whatever they do. Permissiveness corrupts.
    1. SSR
      SSR 9 January 2022 20: 19
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Americans in Syria on what basis? Aggressors in their purest form ... And they are NEVER to blame for anything! Whatever they do. Permissiveness corrupts.

      Comrade, this is a rhetorical "question".
      For 300 years, they are everywhere by themselves and once again ask themselves the question - who called you?
      It makes no sense.
      Let the Chinese come to them and they will discuss who called whom.
  6. Pulkovo1942
    Pulkovo1942 9 January 2022 19: 47
    +8
    Yes, the Americans wanted to spit on any accusations against them. Their answer is always the same:
    "He may be a son of a bitch, but our son of a bitch."
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 9 January 2022 20: 14
      0
      Quote: Pulkovo1942
      "He may be a son of a bitch, but our son of a bitch."

      People from a democratic country cannot be undemocratic, let alone guilty.
  7. SSR
    SSR 9 January 2022 19: 48
    +3
    Imha.
    Is there really nothing like an RPG, Baby, Tou or Cornet at the checkpoint?
    It's 20 years old!
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 9 January 2022 20: 33
      +1
      Is there really nothing like an RPG, Baby, Tou or Cornet at the checkpoint?
      Or DShK.
      1. SSR
        SSR 9 January 2022 20: 38
        0
        Quote: abrakadabre
        Is there really nothing like an RPG, Baby, Tou or Cornet at the checkpoint?
        Or DShK.

        Yes, even a PTR or a Kord-type machine gun?
        It's just that nobody demolished these targets.
  8. Crowe
    Crowe 9 January 2022 19: 51
    +12
    The incident was brought to trial in the United States, resulting in an American sergeant with impunity.
    For some reason I’m not surprised ...
    "The biggest crime is impunity."
    George Bernard Shaw
  9. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 9 January 2022 19: 56
    +6
    Since then, nothing has changed.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 9 January 2022 20: 04
      +4
      The only US military crime that everyone can be proud of.
      1. English tarantas
        English tarantas 9 January 2022 20: 29
        0
        Ugh. What to be proud of? Are you offering to praise one killer for killing another? War of competitors and both shameless wolves. Adequate people tried criminals and executed only after a just and proven sentence. By encouraging lawlessness, you automatically justify injustice that can be applied to you. Keep it up
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 9 January 2022 20: 38
          +2
          You know that in the photo, you are justifying the guards of the Dohau concentration camp. This is too much, you need to know the history.
          1. English tarantas
            English tarantas 9 January 2022 21: 15
            +3
            You offer to praise one the killer for killing another?

            Adequate people judged criminals and only after fair and proven sentence executed

            Do you read what I write, or what you see? In the battle of sh * t and sh * t, you are trying to take sides, albeit temporarily. Normal people disdain both, because they have arguments proving the essence of the parties.
            I did not write a single word in justification of the Nazis, but you tried to justify mass murder, because the execution of a criminal is when a crime is proven, and the punishment is established court... Even the Bible says about judgment.
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 9 January 2022 21: 22
              +3
              How many of these non-people left the court and died in their beds, having lived to a ripe old age, these certainly did not go away. And I am pleased with such retribution, the trial is superfluous in this case. Father told them in the unit there was an eternal captain - a front-line soldier. Once he had a glass of tea. told why he was a captain, at such an age. During the war, one day he received a funeral for the whole family, the Nazis shot them during the occupation. The next day he was ordered to take the prisoners to the rear, he took them to the rear, but not to the assembly point, and in the ravine and there he personally put everyone. The escort soldiers did not betray him. The corpses were eventually found by the special officers, they found him, but not personally, but only figured out. He was on the offensive at that moment from his batteries, the task was heroically fulfilled The division commander for the place of the order simply hushed up this matter. No one touched the captain in the unit in his warehouse, everyone treated him with respect.
              1. English tarantas
                English tarantas 9 January 2022 21: 43
                0
                What kind of inhumans? Are you talking about me? Calm down and cool down. The fact is that we know after the fact that Nazism is disgusting and inhuman, and I personally feel disgust for it. I’m no longer a little boy and I’ve seen so much dirt and dirt, but while watching the movie "The Boy in the Striped Pajamas" I sobbed like a girl throughout the film. But then it was not obvious and understandable to everyone that Nazism and everything that the Nazis were doing was impermissible. Therefore, it was necessary to prove it, and the Nuremberg Tribunal proved it. Ordinary Germans also supported Nazism, but not everyone realized this horror and the consequences, in fact, fully and soberly, and what do you think that it was necessary to drown the whole of Germany in blood without understanding? Those who really consciously accepted Nazism and followed it, as they considered it faithful, were punished. But the same Americans, even at the tribunal, distinguished themselves by pardoning even the most frostbitten ones, because their policy is similar to the Nazi one. They justified their own kind. Personally, I do not want to be like the Nazis in anything, and I urge you to do this, but deliberately. The Nazis believed that a court was not needed and they did not judge Jews and prisoners of war, simply because they also hung the stigma of the enemy on them, but after all, no one really and objectively proved enemies, they needed real evidence, not fictions, otherwise you will punish the innocent , which were the prisoners of the camps, because no one proved what they were accused of. Without a truly fair and impartial judgment, the violence and lawlessness that you really fear, which the Nazis did, will bloom. Do not become like a beast, otherwise you yourself will become one. Tell me what am I wrong? Best wishes.
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 9 January 2022 22: 02
                  +1
                  Take it easy, I'm talking about the Dohau guards shot without trial. You need to read it carefully. I don't like the fact that you suggested bringing them to court and then punishing them. And what kind of lawlessness do you mention, in this particular case.
              2. English tarantas
                English tarantas 9 January 2022 22: 21
                +1
                What kind of inhumans? Are you talking about me? Calm down and cool down

                Yeah, at first there was some problem with the comments, now everything is fine, I take these words back.
                During the war, one day he received a funeral for the whole family, the Nazis shot them during the occupation. The next day he was ordered to take the prisoners to the rear, he took them to the rear, only not to the assembly point, but to the ravine and there himself personally put everyone

                Sad story. But the fact is that when faced with such things, it is impossible for a healthy person to perceive it with a cool head. I myself, being in such a situation, would have done the same. This is the reason for the judgment of a person who is not involved, an outsider, such an order has existed for centuries, the judge and the executioner must be impartial. Obviously, the murdered family was killed for nothing. But who knew who those Nazi soldiers were, because among them there were those who initially did not accept Nazism, but ended up in the army, for various reasons, someone was afraid that if he resisted he would suffer himself, someone was afraid for a family that you could not take away from Reich, many helped the Soviet soldiers, ran across, even among those who ended up in the camps were those who, in the process, seeing the horror that he created with his own hands, rebelled against it, these people came to the realization of the inhumanity of Nazism after that, because as I said already, they accepted Nazism unconsciously, and understood it too late, but according to the laws of law, such people are not completely guilty. Therefore, in the Soviet troops, Nazi prisoners of war were not shot en masse, but kept, in spite of. I don’t want to appear as Kolya from Urengoy, but as I already wrote, we should not think that it was necessary to kill all the Germans to the last, everyone who somehow helped Nazism was guilty, but not everyone deserved death, many really had weighty reasons: their own stupidity, family and children, someone did not know another life at all, because young guys in the army are people born in the early 20s and from childhood they were brought up by Nazism. One can only admire our grandfathers, how they were able to go through this, but if we can look at things coldly and soberly, then we cannot cut from the shoulder. One of my relatives tried to escape to the front several times, but they caught him and returned him because he had a reservation, because he plowed the field and harvested bread, and we now know that his work for the country was no less, but even more important, because the victory was forged in the rear and the country had already lost a lot of good land and plowmen, factories and workers, but he did not know how important he was at home, and the people who led the country to victory understood the result on the face. Sincerely
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 9 January 2022 22: 40
                  +1
                  What what, and with comments miracles on the site since November. hi drinks
          2. suhorukofal
            suhorukofal 9 January 2022 23: 03
            +2
            I decided to take a little interest and went nuts. Yes, there we took over the baton from the SS:
            In the Dachau hospital lay wounded Wehrmacht soldiers and Volkssturm teenagers: several hundred people. The Americans took away the hospital staff - doctors and nurses, and the wounded - those who could not walk, pulled from their beds - only 358 people. Immobile invalids were shot on the spot. The doctors, pharmacist and medical staff wore white coats with Red Cross bandages. The hospital's chief physician, Dr. Schroeder, called the Americans to order, but he was beaten and his skull fractured. This group included all camp staff, including school teachers. The group was executed

            the pile of corpses was about 2 or 3 feet high and 15 feet across. And they were SS men. One of the corporals in my company drew a hunting knife and cut off a finger from one of the corpses. He wanted an SS ring for a souvenir. "

            The documents of the killed Germans were destroyed and the medallions were removed. Their bodies were buried in an unknown place by captured servicemen. This was a violation of the Geneva Convention on the identification of fallen enemy soldiers, the prohibition of burial in unmarked graves and forced labor when burying the dead. The Americans grossly violated the Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War and committed a war crime. None of the participants in the massacre was punished, the charges were dropped by General Patton


            You can continue for a long time. And this was done by people who did not see real atrocities, did not lose their families in the war, did not see their homes burned down. Our soldiers were not even close to such a thing, although words cannot convey their grief. Yes, Hitler found worthy "successors" of the case.
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 9 January 2022 23: 25
              0
              And what nationality of SS were there and from what front were they transferred? Not all were put under Voronezh.
              1. suhorukofal
                suhorukofal 10 January 2022 00: 22
                +3
                It is from the Eastern Front,
                SS Untersturmführer Heinrich Vicker remained in charge. The camp employees were employees of the disciplinary unit of the SS and soldiers of the Hungarian units of the SS troops

                the command wanted to surrender honorably, not to the Russians, you can not worry. They dressed in a beautiful uniform, polished boots. This infuriated the Americans, for this they were shot on the spot.
                Obersturmführer tried to surrender the camp to the Americans, but was shot dead. According to the memoirs, the Americans were furious that the SS men came out to surrender in perfectly clean uniforms with polished boots. The commander of the SS garrison, impeccably dressed, went out to meet the Americans and, saluting, addressed the commander of the 45th Thunderbird GI unit, Colonel Jackson, in English with the words: “I am the commander of the camp guard. I have the authority to hand over the camp to you. "

                In short, the plans for a beautiful resignation were somehow quickly cut short.
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 10 January 2022 00: 27
                  0
                  They went to hell with polished boots, and how many of them fled to the western zone of occupation, fought their way through.
                  1. suhorukofal
                    suhorukofal 10 January 2022 00: 47
                    +1
                    With the battles, it seemed to me they surrendered in batches, if only the Red Army did not fall into the hands. But here, as luck would have it, somewhere the hopes were not justified, they ended up like this, someone later lived as a respected person, the Union could not achieve their extradition in any way. Should we be surprised then at the atrocities of the ovs? They picked up, so to speak, the fallen banner.
                    I remembered the story of a friend who worked in Argentina. So, according to him, the descendants of these "Aryans" and "Vikings still have their settlements as separate states, their own police, their own laws, and indeed their own world, do not let outsiders in. They did not break through to South America with battles.
                    1. tralflot1832
                      tralflot1832 10 January 2022 01: 23
                      +2
                      In Buenos Aires, the Germans did not come across, maybe they were encrypted. But I heard about German settlements in the countryside. But in Walvis Bay I met with a tanker, from some tank division, I don't remember. He made fire all our roads and remembered the frosts for life. By the way, he remembered he wanted to talk through his son. That was a long time ago.
  10. Private SA
    Private SA 9 January 2022 19: 57
    +4
    Indeed, the first and last name of Lieutenant William Kelly comes to mind. In the case of the shooting
    in Songmi. Goddess Themis - she is everywhere with a bandage over her eyes. And the already quoted phrase:
    "Yes, Somoza is of course a son of a bitch. But he is our son of a bitch."
    phrases available ...
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 9 January 2022 20: 01
      +2
      Yes, here he is in person.
  11. rusich
    rusich 9 January 2022 19: 58
    +3
    It's a pity they didn't shoot him at this checkpoint.
  12. Thrifty
    Thrifty 9 January 2022 20: 03
    +2
    There are more coffins with 200 Yankees, so that they too have a "memory" of the occupation of Syria.
  13. yuriy55
    yuriy55 9 January 2022 20: 05
    +3
    Why is this happening? It's simple: there are no judges for the American aggressors, except for their own.
    It’s just surprising to me why such an incident could have taken place in the actual territory of Syria at all. Where are our vaunted RShG-1, Bumblebees, Cornets ... An interesting picture: they drove up and just killed ...
    And where are they based, there is no way to shoot a thermobaric ammunition?
    What is this caste of untouchables?
    1. SerAp
      SerAp 9 January 2022 20: 14
      -1
      * The inviolable
    2. Slap
      Slap 9 January 2022 21: 24
      +1
      The Americans opened with M-2, M-240 and carbines from a distance of 20-30 meters. Fuck your head out.
    3. TatarinSSSR
      TatarinSSSR 9 January 2022 21: 58
      +2
      They can do everything. They can also smash these MRAPs with RPGs like a fox in a chicken coop. But ... There, unlike you, the Syrians understand that after that the Needles, Hornets, Apaches will arrive and they will level not only this block post with the ground, but also everything that travels and moves around it for a couple of kilometers. And there will already be not one dead Syrian, but 70. And also, unlike you, the Syrians know that no Syrian air defense will operate on American aircraft. They just won't get the order. As it was more than once.
  14. Flooding
    Flooding 9 January 2022 20: 08
    +1
    The decision was made by a jury, among whom were two lieutenant colonels and six sergeant majors.

    sergeant major - a special figure in the US army
    with a salary of class E-9, roughly corresponding to the class O-3 for the captain
  15. Gardener91
    Gardener91 9 January 2022 20: 18
    -1
    "... agree that only the one who hung it can probably cut the hair?"
  16. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 9 January 2022 20: 58
    +2
    and this talking dog-chicken does not want the "American administration to determine the degree of legitimacy of the US contingent's entry" into Syria ?!
  17. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 9 January 2022 21: 11
    +5
    A US paratrooper who provoked a shootout with the Syrian military has been dropped by a US court.


    Who would doubt that. The most humane court in the world.
    American warriors can do any lawlessness, but in America they will only be threatened with a finger.
    Star-striped cowboys
  18. Private SA
    Private SA 9 January 2022 21: 14
    +4
    Quote: English tarantass
    Adequate people tried criminals and executed them only after a just and proven sentence. By encouraging lawlessness, you automatically justify injustice that can be applied to you.

    And when you pick up a machine gun, you must understand that a bullet can also come at you. You have
    adequate people of militants from ISIS, who are a pilot from Saudi Arabia alive
    burned in the cage and cut the throat of Copts name. Probably there was a court too? What do we have there
    also about the concept of "Lynching"?
    So the excesses during the seizure of concentration camps in the West of Germany and the execution of guards from
    SS by the Allied forces - as part of the usual military devastation. The bombing of Dresden is not.
  19. WWI
    WWI 9 January 2022 21: 21
    +1
    And in vain they did not put the amerikosov. Then the trial would not have taken place.
  20. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 9 January 2022 21: 53
    -2
    There was no return fire from the Syrians, which means they understood that it was impossible. Otherwise, I don't want to fly from Hornets, Iglov and Apacheypo, they will raze the block post to the ground. They knew that the Syrian air defense would not receive an order to work on American aircraft. And since they knew and asked the Americans, it means that the Syrian commander is a stupid person, and his soldier died because of his stupidity.
  21. Basarev
    Basarev 9 January 2022 21: 57
    +1
    A very correct step. A normal state is always on the side of its citizens, especially when it comes to foreign relations. And not like we have since the times of the Soviet Union - in which case we do not know you, get out yourself.
  22. Volga073
    Volga073 9 January 2022 22: 27
    +2
    Kill the occupier - save your children.
  23. Helmsman
    Helmsman 9 January 2022 23: 59
    +1
    He's an American, bought an indulgence.
  24. Private SA
    Private SA 10 January 2022 02: 14
    +1
    Quote: Volga073
    Kill the occupier - save your children.

    Our time was kinder. We had a poster on the parade ground:
    "Warrior of the Soviet army - be vigilant. Remember the American
    imperialism, Chinese revanchism and Japanese militarism "... With portraits
    Truman, Mao Zedong, and Tojo.
  25. Private SA
    Private SA 10 January 2022 02: 26
    0
    [quote = Private CA] [quote = Volga073] Kill the occupier - save your children. [/ quote]

    I am a greater humanist than you. We had a poster on the parade ground: "A soldier of the Soviet army - be
    alert. Remember American imperialism, Chinese revanchism and Japanese militarism "...
    With portraits of Truman, Mao Zedong, and Prime Minister Tojo
  26. Rusticolus
    Rusticolus 10 January 2022 04: 54
    -1
    America, all, must be destroyed
    to prevent an attack on your unit.
    and this is not even genocide. A gang of motley bandyugans cannot be a nation by definition. Here the Jews have more rights.
  27. Iron
    Iron 10 January 2022 05: 04
    -1
    But I wonder ... If it were not for the Americans but ours? We drove up, didn’t share something there, and we shot at the blopost. Then the court and they were acquitted. Would it be outrage too? Or is it basically because the Americans?
    1. Two
      Two 10 January 2022 13: 13
      -3
      They were not called.
      1. Terran ghost
        Terran ghost 11 January 2022 18: 09
        -1
        Well, in general, they called me. True, the Syrian Kurds, not the official government of Syria.
  28. The comment was deleted.
  29. riwas
    riwas 10 January 2022 06: 38
    0
    A US paratrooper who provoked a shootout with the Syrian military has been dropped by a US court.

    Expected. Justified for more - for the murder of civilians - women and children.
  30. Two
    Two 10 January 2022 13: 12
    -3
    The opposition must be mirrored! They slapped the Arab, the minke must die in return, especially since no one called them! And so it should be constantly, until the coffins are leveled.
  31. Iron
    Iron 10 January 2022 13: 25
    -1
    Quote: Dos
    They were not called

    Well, as if the question was different ... But okay. There came across a video of K. Semin with PMCs. So one said directly - there is a gas station, or we will wring it out, or they. This looks like the truth. As it is, he said so. At least not grimacing about helping the fraternal people. And on the topic, the apricots have arrived. They shot the checkpoint. In response, silence. I'm generally surprised that there was a trial. And not just forgot about it.
  32. hector
    hector 10 January 2022 18: 03
    0
    Quote: Nikon OConor
    these are okay ... it happens (although I can't imagine when it would be with us), but when the main (potential) soldiers aged 18 to 30 took it and piled it all together to Europe ... instead of defending their homeland ....... this is beyond my understanding, probably in the psychology of society I am a complete zero

    Because there was originally the way of life of nomadic tribes, and they have no homeland in the desert, they wandered from oasis to oasis, someone came to take the oasis - well, okay, let's go to another.
  33. Just a Traveler
    Just a Traveler 11 January 2022 10: 21
    0
    The court made a decision.
    No questions.
  34. Terran ghost
    Terran ghost 11 January 2022 18: 07
    -1
    Quote: "American paratrooper Robert Nikoson provoked a conflict at a government checkpoint and opened fire."
    The "provocation of the conflict" by the American military looked something like this
    https://news.yahoo.com/army-paratrooper-robert-nicoson-acquitted-073119232.html
    Quote: "The firefight started when Nicoson's patrol sought passage through a pro-regime checkpoint and was initially blocked from doing so. After a discussion through translators, the US forces were allowed passage before they were met with small arms fire, according to a report by Task & Purpose. Nicoson's unit, the 82nd Airborne Division's Blackhorse Troop, 1st Squadron, 73rd Cavalry Regiment, returned fire ... "
    That is, the situation developed approximately as follows - American servicemen approached the Syrian Arab Army checkpoint and requested permission to pass through the territory controlled by the troops of the Syrian government. At first they were denied, but then, after talking with the help of an interpreter, permission was still given. However, when the US military tried to start moving, Syrian soldiers opened fire on them. A similar response followed from the American military.