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Bulgarian press: Ukraine and the USA fell into a "strategic trap"

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In 2022, Ukraine may face hard times, and this will be connected with a possible change in US policy in Eastern Europe. The author of the Bulgarian edition of Duma, Lychezar Radev, draws parallels with the situation during the Cold War. Then, to contain the Soviet Union, the United States needed to normalize relations with Maoist China. Washington had to close its eyes to the peculiarities of Chinese ideology and politics, to the activities of the PRC in the countries of South and Southeast Asia, if only China provided some support to the United States in the military-political confrontation with the USSR.


At present, Radev believes, we see the opposite situation: China has grown to the impossible, and the United States has practically no room for maneuver. So, not only has China grown significantly, but a new actor in global politics is also emerging - India, which also has strong ties with Russia and is unlikely to support Washington's anti-Russian policy. Russia also has good relations with other Asian states - for example, with Vietnam. There are also no openly anti-Russian states in the Middle East, even the UAE and Saudi Arabia are increasingly cooperating with Moscow, not to mention Egypt or Syria.

The current situation forces Washington to take a different approach to the issue of further building relations with Russia. Moreover, there is no one to rely on in the fight against Russia and China: Europe is rapidly weakening, completely dependent on Russian gas, and the United States simply has no other allies.

Now one of the main stumbling blocks between the United States and Russia is the situation with Ukraine. This is one of the main problem areas of the modern world. But if the United States does not want to confront both Russia and China at the same time, it will have to slightly change its policy on Ukraine. If we talk about the economic component that always stands behind politics, then China is more dangerous than Russia in this regard. Therefore, the United States may well agree to weaken support for Ukraine.

The United States and Ukraine have found themselves in a "strategic trap", writes the author of the Bulgarian press, and here's why. First, Ukraine will not be able to resist Russia with the forces and means at its disposal today. Second, if the United States weakened its military assistance to Ukraine or abandoned its military presence in Ukraine, it would be a very serious blow to its positions in Eastern Europe. Without American infusions, Ukraine will not only be unable to resist Russia, its very existence in its current form will be in question.

It is possible that if Ukraine continues to follow the given course, it will be doomed to disintegration. Radev writes that Russia may well form a zone of strategic stability from the regions of the south and east of Ukraine - Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye, Kherson. Perhaps, writes the Bulgarian observer, today such a project seems fantastic, but in the longer term it is quite real.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 24 December 2021 11: 01
    +5
    Wait and see. What a trap and to whom. China is primarily based on pragmatism. First of all for yourself. And everyone else ... Europe does what Washington says. In January, negotiations were announced on the issue of security and our proposals. Let's wait for them (although they will be closed and what is there and how incomprehensible)
    1. Finches
      Finches 24 December 2021 11: 11
      +8
      Is there an independent press in dependent Bulgaria ?? But! laughing
      1. pytar
        pytar 24 December 2021 11: 53
        -4
        Is there an independent press in dependent Bulgaria ?? But!

        Zyablitsev in his role! laughing Well, if we look at the facts, there is an independent press! There are all sorts of opinions in the Bulgarian media! Competition in ideas is fierce! State media only BNT / Bulgarian National Television / and BNR / Bulgarian National Radio /. They are governed by a governing council appointed by the Parliament. And there is always a powerful opposition to parliament. No one can crush all power under him, no one can dictate what the media will write. The reader, the viewer, the listener decides! Russian media are also present, and no one calls them "foreign agents"! Nobody is persecuted for posts or reposts on the networks! This is impossible to imagine with us!
        1. Finches
          Finches 24 December 2021 12: 06
          +9
          Today I will not troll the Bulgarians, thanks to your Minister of Defense, who wrote on his Facebook account that there is no need to deploy additional troops on Bulgarian territory yet. They say that the existing 5 American GIs are enough and there is no need to increase them by another 000! But, most likely, Niger and Latinos, the main ethnic groups of American troops abroad, fucked all "eggs, chickens, malko" in the district and the local population living around the bases "Novo Selo" and "immensant", will not make it possible to increase the increase in American "brother" laughing
          1. pytar
            pytar 24 December 2021 12: 28
            -2
            Today I will not troll the Bulgarians, thanks to your Minister of Defense, who wrote on his Facebook account that there is no need to deploy additional troops on Bulgarian territory yet.

            It's hard to believe! Zyablitsev, think about it ... How strange it will look ... laughing
            1. Finches
              Finches 24 December 2021 13: 11
              +10
              Why? When at least someone in Bulgaria shows himself to be a normal man, then the attitude is normal! Or like this:
              "Not far from the famous Shipka monument (Bulgarians call it the Monument of Freedom) there is the Church of the Nativity of Christ, a Bulgarian Orthodox church built in memory of the soldiers who died for the liberation of Bulgaria in the Russian-Turkish war. All the bells of this church (the largest - 12 tons) are cast from cartridges from cartridges and shells collected at the pass. We entered this temple ...
              It was a weekday, there was no service at that moment, the church was empty. Hearing our speech, a Bulgarian monk came up to us and asked: “Are you Russians?” We confirmed. “Do you have some time?” Asked the monk. “Yes,” we replied. The monk left somewhere, and a couple of minutes later he went out with seven other bearded, dressed in black "colleagues." The monks lined up and sang ...

              Eight harsh male voices played Gregorian chants, stunning beauty and power under the arches of the Temple. What were they singing about? Besides Russian, I know Ukrainian, so I understand the Bulgarian "version" of the Slavic speech quite well. So, the monks sang psalms written in memory of the Russian soldiers who died for the freedom of Bulgaria. They sang to us for almost an hour. Then the monks bowed and one of them quietly said: "Forgive us, brothers" ... "


              And you here are smearing some snot about our Russian realities - business, there is the most important fact! That's how your monks are!
              1. expert
                expert 24 December 2021 13: 46
                +6
                Strongly! This is hundreds, thousands of times more powerful than all kinds of articles by "independent publishing houses" and custom polls.
              2. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 24 December 2021 13: 59
                +3
                Great about the monks!
                And about the "trap" ... What a "strategic trap" there! Some on the eve of the collapse, while others - large loss and shameful retreat! smile
              3. pytar
                pytar 24 December 2021 14: 55
                +1
                Why? When at least someone in Bulgaria shows himself to be a normal man, then the attitude is normal!

                In Bulgaria, normal men are in no lesser degree than in Russia. I know very well both countries and the people living in them. But as you read your media and forums ... I do not want to comment. negative
                "Not far from the famous Shipka monument (Bulgarians call it the Monument of Freedom) is the Church of the Nativity of Christ ... Having heard our speech, a Bulgarian monk approached us and asked:" Are you Russians? " ... A couple of minutes later the monk came out together with seven more similarly bearded, black-clad “colleagues.” The monks lined up in a row and began to sing ...
                Eight harsh male voices brought out Gregorian chants, stunning beauty and power under the arches of the Temple ... "

                This story is popular in Bulgaria as well, I have known it for at least 10 years. We consider Russians to be their own. I will tell you a case that I witnessed. With his wife / she is Russian / we traveled around the country. We settled down for the night in a private house in the small town of Belogradchik. Housewives, a middle-aged woman and her elderly mother. When they found out that my wife was Russian, they made a very pleasant surprise for her in the morning! They brought coffee with breakfast, and then sang a few Russian songs in quite good Russian! They also presented a book about the history of this region, which they themselves wrote! My wife was shocked, the first from the incredibly beautiful area of ​​Belodgradchik, the second from the respect that two ordinary women witnessed to her. My wife said that Bulgarians treat Russians better than Russians themselves do one another! I will add - we treat Russians better than we treat each other! Such cases happened to us more than once wherever in Bulgaria we were! I even began to go through different instances easier, being there with my wife! laughing
                What were they singing about? Besides Russian, I know Ukrainian, so I understand the Bulgarian "version" of the Slavic speech quite well. So, the monks sang psalms written in memory of the Russian soldiers who died for the freedom of Bulgaria. They sang to us for almost an hour.

                Orthodox chants, psalms are conducted in the Old Bulgarian language, you call it Church Slavonic. It sounds in your and Ukrainian churches. And it sounds really amazing, this is the language of my great-grandfathers that has been preserved thanks to the Orthodox Faith to this day!
                Then the monks bowed and one of them quietly said: "Forgive us, brothers" ... "

                In ru-forums and websites I read how this priesthood is interpreted! Like "Bulgarians apologize to Russians because ..." and then the mantras of Ross follow. propaganda! No guys! This is our Orthodox custom, one asks for forgiveness from another! Bow down, no matter who is in front of you, ordinary people or the Tsar! And whoever he is, will bow before the monks in return, ask for forgiveness!
                1. Boa kaa
                  Boa kaa 24 December 2021 20: 50
                  +1
                  Quote: pytar
                  In Bulgaria, normal men are in no lesser degree than in Russia.

                  Boyan, the memory of the people cannot be taken away from the governments who studied at Harvard, Sarbon, Yale and reforged in the Anglo-Saxon manner ...
                  I believe that the Bulgarian people are kind (unlike the rulers) to the Russian people and remember SHIPKA as a symbol of our FRIENDSHIP, sealed in blood.
                  (And the Anglo-Saxon geeks - to burn in hell! am )
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 25 December 2021 00: 36
                    0
                    Boyan, the memory of the people cannot be taken away by any temporary workers from the governments who studied at Harvard, Sarbon, Yale and reforged in the Anglo-Saxon manner ... I believe that the Bulgarian people are kindly (unlike the rulers) to the Russian people and remember SHIPKA as a symbol of our FRIENDSHIP sealed in blood.

                    Dear, it is! We have Russophilia at the genetic level, even those who criticize Russia do not hate it. yes
                    And about our people who graduated from universities in the West, I have a different opinion. A Bulgarian, wherever he studies, remains a Bulgarian! Having returned to the country, he will use his knowledge and skills on his crawl to the Motherland! And we have a lot to learn from developed countries, not everything there is as bad as propaganda squeals! In all times of crisis, educated, knowledgeable, and able Bulgarians have played a big role in overcoming problems. Yes, and Russian history abounds with such examples, since the time of Peter I.
            2. isv000
              isv000 24 December 2021 15: 13
              +4
              Quote: pytar
              It's hard to believe! Zyablitsev, think about it ... How strange it will look ...

              If your MO is consistent in its actions and pushes the Yankees out of the country, then you can be respected again ...
              1. pytar
                pytar 24 December 2021 16: 02
                -1
                If your MO is consistent in its actions and pushes the Yankees out of the country, then you can be respected again ...

                I always try to 1. be as casual as possible, 2. always speak on my own behalf, at least 3. I can generalize some things, in view of a fairly wide circle of my acquaintances. Therefore, I will give the following explanations:
                1. MO does not work by itself. It works in unison with the policies of the government and Parliament. Sometimes one or the other responsible person makes statements so that the government can study the reactions of those concerned.
                2.Although people we are very similar to you, over and over again I state that we see a lot in completely different ways! Everything that happened to you from the West looks like "us and them".
                3. Bulgarian foreign policy has different goals, different tasks, since we have our own national interests! There is no goal to "squeeze the Yankees out of the country"! We look at the presence of NATO as a factor of stability in the Balkans! And we need stability in order to continue developing the country, the economy, and the standard of living! On the other hand, it is not in our interests to further strengthen the presence of NATO! This will exacerbate confrontation with Russia and reduce the level of stability!
                I am not going to comment on the GDP policy in the Balkans, I think it is extremely dangerous for my country. And all this propaganda against the Bulgarians as a people in the service of the same policy. But we make a difference between the Russian government and the Russian people! These are two completely different concepts! hi
                1. Yulian
                  Yulian 26 December 2021 09: 54
                  -1
                  "I will not begin to comment on the GDP policy in the Balkans, I think it is extremely dangerous for my country. And all this propaganda against the Bulgarians as a people in the services of the same policy. But we make a difference between the Russian government and the Russian People! These are two completely different concepts!"

                  There is no GDP policy in the Balkans, but the US policy is extremely clear - all Balkan countries should be enemies of Russia. Therefore, they will impose their uninvited help as if Russia is a threat to Bulgaria. This is very dangerous for us because the NATO troops can be Turkish and this will be our end. They have such a habit of entering but never voluntarily leaving, and this is what we see in Cyprus, Syria and everywhere!
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 26 December 2021 11: 34
                    0
                    There is no GDP policy in the Balkans ... This is very dangerous for us because the NATO troops can be Turkish and this will be our end ...

                    Emotions, addictions do not play politics. Only interests are in charge there! Erdogan and VVP want to knock the West out of the Balkans. This is in their common interest. Knock out the West, divide the Balkans into Russian and Turkish spheres of influence. Guess which country the dividing line will pass through?
                    Russia does little, it has a policy to wait until "ripe apples fall into their hands by themselves." And the role of the "pounding tree" is given to Erdogan. That is a threat, a real one, while VVP is like a "rescuer" whom the Balkans frightened by Erdogan invite to help! Russia, doing nothing, will get more than half of the Balkans! That's the whole situation!
                    but on the other hand, the US policy is extremely clear - all the Balkan countries should be enemies of Russia. Therefore, they will impose their uninvited help as if Russia is a threat to Bulgaria.

                    Russia cannot compete with the West in the field of economy and social order. Russian energy projects are not comparable in importance to the complex benefits of EU membership. But Russia is competitive in the field of defense, armaments, power structures. In order for these advantages to come into play, there must be confrontation, separation of "ours and foes", in the case of the Balkans. Here the presence of the West brings stability, the EU demonstrates a working model for solving interethnic problems. The countries that fought among themselves for centuries, arranged the largest bloodshed in history, now live peacefully and there are no borders between them! In such a situation, Russia has no chance, therefore, in the interests of escalating conflicts, polarization is "ours and yours", which opens the door for it in the Balkans!
                    And what is in our interests? I think it is in our best interest to gather the Balkans for a chair drinks and figure it out - do we want to be a "powder magazine" again and again, or can we agree together and cool all these imperials like Erdogan and VVP. Our salvation lies in the creation of the Balkan Union as part of the EU. hi
                    1. Yulian
                      Yulian 26 December 2021 12: 17
                      -1
                      "Erdogan and VVP want to knock the West out of the Balkans. This is in their common interest. Knock out the West, divide the Balkans into Russian and Turkish spheres of influence. Guess which country will the dividing line pass through?"

                      The fact that WFP and Erdogan have some common interests is absurd. Turkey's goal is invariable - revenge for the defeat of the Ottoman Empire and the humiliation of Russia through its dismemberment. Only a person devoid of reason can believe in Erdogan's good intentions towards Russia, Bulgaria or some other Christian state! And for SASCH it is all the same whether Bulgaria will exist as an independent state or as a Turkish vilayet!
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 26 December 2021 13: 25
                        0
                        The fact that WFP and Erdogan have some common interests is absurd. Turkey's goal is invariable - revenge for the defeat of the Ottoman Empire and the humiliation of Russia through its dismemberment.

                        Local interests sometimes converge, there is nothing absurd in this. From 1938 to 1941, the USSR and Germany also had this, then the USSR from the West, until 1945. But the global ones contradict, this is also a fact.
                        Only a person devoid of reason can believe in Erdogan's good intentions towards Russia, Bulgaria or some other Christian state!

                        Hardly anyone can argue with this. Syria is an example of this. And there is. So what? How do the global contradictions between these large countries prevent them from getting along where their interests converge for a moment?
                        And for SASCH it is all the same whether Bulgaria will exist as an independent state or as a Turkish vilayet!

                        This is also true! No one should be under the illusion that the US will defend Bulgaria from Turkey. This is the cardinal dilemma for Bulgaria! As President Radev states: "Russia cannot be an example of a social model for us, but we must cooperate with it, it is in our interests!" The problem is that for Russia, in view of its authoritarianism and backwardness in the social structure, such cooperation is not particularly interesting. She needs to set foot in the Balkans, restore her presence here, and this is possible only if Bulgaria accepts some of the "values" that hold modern Russian society. It is not for nothing that Russian politicians support certain oligarchic structures in Bulgaria and in the EU in general. Similar collaborate with similar ones. This similarity (to live according to concepts, not according to the law), something from which we have been trying to get away for 20 years!
          2. Saladine
            Saladine 25 December 2021 10: 16
            +1
            A surge in the population of Afro-Ukrainians is expected soon
        2. Ros 56
          Ros 56 24 December 2021 12: 59
          +5
          Well, don't be shy. Scratch your tongue, do not carry bags. You can write whatever you want, but only do what the American dad says. wassat
          1. pytar
            pytar 24 December 2021 15: 09
            -3
            Well, don't be shy. Scratch your tongue, do not carry bags. You can write whatever you want, but only do what the American dad says.

            Who else can say a person living in a country where no one takes into account the opinion of the ego? He judges other countries by his realities! laughing
            By the way, a few years ago, Bulgaria categorically refused to host the elements of the American missile defense system. And it was installed in Romania.
            1. Finches
              Finches 24 December 2021 15: 45
              +3
              Okay, Boyan Ivanov hi Do not be offended - just someone should be responsible for some Russophobic acts of the Bulgarian leadership at VO, here you and my namesake Eugene, are under a hot hand! laughing
              1. pytar
                pytar 25 December 2021 00: 23
                0
                Okay, Boyan Ivanov, don't be offended - it's just that someone should be responsible for some Russophobic acts of the Bulgarian leadership at VO, here you and my namesake Evgeny, are under a hot hand!

                I am not offended in any way! I am guided by the words of Confucius: When someone wants to strongly offend you, it means that he is even worse! laughing
                In any case, I do not like some of the Bulgarian-phobic actions of your leaders, but I will not offend you, ordinary members of the forum! hi
                1. Finches
                  Finches 25 December 2021 06: 43
                  +1
                  As they say, Hitlers come and go, but the peoples remain! hi
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 25 December 2021 14: 10
                    +1
                    As they say, Hitlers come and go, but the peoples remain!

                    And there is! drinks
            2. Ros 56
              Ros 56 24 December 2021 15: 55
              +1
              Well, you're a storyteller, your government is probably listening to you. I bent it, bent it like that, well, just the navel of the earth. fool
              1. pytar
                pytar 25 December 2021 00: 16
                -2
                Well, you're a storyteller, your government is probably listening to you. I bent it, bent it like that, well, just the navel of the earth.

                Listens and how! Otherwise it won't stay long! We sent the previous prizewinner 2 times to the leavings! I did not heed the warnings and was sitting in the opposition!
                And President Radev, when he came to visit our city, listened and answered everyone. I did not sit behind the screen in simulated "communication with the people", I personally communicated and so much! I then told Radev one thing, unpleasant ... The President was silent for a minute and said: "It will be done, I give my word." And did!
                And you, Yuri, or the president, even your governor or mayor will not notice that you exist! lol
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    2. zenion
      zenion 25 December 2021 01: 29
      0
      210sq. Any country needs allies, even better friends. It starts in kindergarten and can end in school or college. Only before that they remembered Brezhnev and his policy, do everything that would be good. The party will not interfere with the people; the people will not interfere with the party. The trouble is that Russia now has neither friends nor allies, but dreams that they are. China has allies in its region who will help it. North Korea. Vietnam will never forget what happened to America. America has allies, but paid ones. They won't last long. America can easily incite Ukraine on an adventure and say - is there paper? No paper. Do you have Ukraine? There is no Ukraine! Everyone wants to have good neighbors, not those who steal chickens and rabbits.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 24 December 2021 11: 01
    +3
    Bulgarian press: Ukraine and the USA fell into a "strategic trap"
    ... How many of those "analysts and prophets" are already taken aback. Would be engaged in useful things, you see, it became calmer b.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 December 2021 11: 13
      +16
      And I like the way they wrote: "Ukraine and the USA"! "The haberdasher and the cardinal!" Can all the same put the United States ahead? This is the United States in a trap, and Ukraine is in deep ... opera.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 December 2021 12: 31
        0
        If the Yankees watched, read what they write there, all sorts of small ones, it could be important.
        And so, write sho hosh, at the request of the customer ...
    2. pytar
      pytar 24 December 2021 11: 37
      -1
      How many of those "analysts and prophets" are already taken aback. Would be engaged in useful things, you see, it became calmer b.

      Does the wish also apply to the Russian media? I then look at the prophets and analysts you have a lot! bully
      Assoc. Lchezar Radev writes in bulg. media for Bulgarian readers. The state is his subjective opinion. The newspaper "Duma" is leftist, it is the organ of the Bulgarian Socialist Party (former Communist Party).


      Would be engaged in useful things, you see, it became calmer b.

      The job of journalists is to write articles. Since this is so troubling, don't read the media. hi
      1. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 24 December 2021 11: 56
        +2
        Quote: pytar
        How many of those "analysts and prophets" are already taken aback. Would be engaged in useful things, you see, it became calmer b.

        Does the wish also apply to the Russian media? I then look at the prophets and analysts you have a lot! bully
        Assoc. Lchezar Radev writes in bulg. media for Bulgarian readers. The state is his subjective opinion. The newspaper "Duma" is leftist, it is the organ of the Bulgarian Socialist Party (former Communist Party).


        Would be engaged in useful things, you see, it became calmer b.

        The job of journalists is to write articles. Since this is so troubling, don't read the media. hi

        The map is more accurate than your experts indicated.
        1. pytar
          pytar 24 December 2021 12: 18
          -1
          The map is more accurate than your experts indicated.

          Yes! I deliberately made a screenshot of the original page. The article is the personal opinion of the author. And our experts have all sorts of opinions. Okay, freedom of opinion into action!
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 24 December 2021 12: 09
        +5
        Quote: pytar
        Does the wish also apply to the Russian media?

        Ours, not ours, are all smeared with honey / tar. For the most part, 99,9% are talkers and bums.
        Quote: pytar
        Since this is so troubling, don't read the media.

        Doesn't bother ... why was this stuff squeezed here?
        Quote: pytar
        The job of journalists is to write articles.

        People, many, have forgotten how to think at all ... they read and swallow all kinds of nonsense, and then nightmares haunt them at night ...
        It is necessary to take care of the mental health of the nation ... and at night there is something to do !!! there is a demographic problem in the country, and men, having read all sorts of nonsense, become ... do not, in general.
        and ladies infected with feminist and other nonsense are not the most pleasant partners in bed, if it comes to that at all.
        In general, THE NATION IS NECESSARY TO CARE!
        1. pytar
          pytar 24 December 2021 12: 25
          -1
          Ours, not ours, are all smeared with honey / tar. For the most part, 99,9% are talkers and bums.

          Clear! yes Victor, here's another question! If financed from the state budget at your expense, it's sad ... You have federal media, practically monopolists! What the irreplaceable power will indicate, they write, and whether you want it or not, you still pay for it out of your pocket! At least we don't have that! 99,99% of the media are private! They are financed themselves, sometimes they are bonkrotted. Competition, health benefits! Very helpful! good

          Doesn't bother ... why was this stuff squeezed here?

          Well, a question for VO ?! request

          People, many, have forgotten how to think at all ... they read and swallow all kinds of nonsense, and then nightmares haunt them at night ... In general, THE NATION SHOULD BE CARED!

          Our media mainly write about internal problems. They criticize, expose, offer! Exactly what worries the ordinary citizen! And this is great, useful! drinks
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 24 December 2021 12: 51
            +2
            Quote: pytar
            You have federal media, practically monopolists!

            Who is watching them? Now an alternative opinion, an explanation to find, like two fingers ... "stick in the socket."
            Quote: pytar
            Ours, not ours, are all smeared with honey / tar. For the most part, 99,9% are talkers and bums.

            Clear! yes Victor, here's another question! If financed from the state budget at your expense, it's sad ... You have federal media, practically monopolists! What the irreplaceable power will indicate, they write, and whether you want it or not, you still pay for it out of your pocket! At least we don't have that! 99,99% of the media are private! They are financed themselves, sometimes they are bonkrotted. Competition, health benefits! Very helpful! good

            Doesn't bother ... why was this stuff squeezed here?

            Well, a question for VO ?! request

            People, many, have forgotten how to think at all ... they read and swallow all kinds of nonsense, and then nightmares haunt them at night ... In general, THE NATION SHOULD BE CARED!

            Our media mainly write about internal problems. They criticize, expose, offer! Exactly what worries the ordinary citizen! And this is great, useful! drinks

            EVERYWHERE EVERYTHING IS THE SAME! more-less.
            The music is ordered by the one who dances the "girl" ....
            And now SERIOUS.
            We have a world wide web EVERYWHERE where there is some kind of connection!
            Those. choice of information for every taste ...
            And since control over the info space is in the hands of NOT OUR AUTHORITIES !!! draw conclusions and do not tell FAIRY TALES that only you have FREEDOM, and we poor must, through the interference of the air, through jammers, catch the VOICE OF THE FREE WEST ...
            I hope I communicate with an adult who has not forgotten how to think critically and find mistakes in their reasoning.
            Quote: pytar
            Our media mainly write about internal problems.

            But this, if you have it, is different from what the central mass media broadcast in our country. Ours also has critical information, but precisely because at the current level of accessibility of CITIZENS to various sources of information, "WILL NOT HIDE IN A SACK" ... although there is a bias towards self-praise, loved ones, there is, AS ANYWHERE!
            In general, to the one who will tell me how they have everything smeared with honey, but we have everything impartial ... like me, it's just neighing !!! Although it will be laughter, through ... if not tears, then anger, supported by obscene expressions !!! Because we have a lot of problems, many places, JUST AS AND EVERYWHERE!
            By the way, such a question ... and where is everything good and blissful now ??? no matter how much I asked this simple and specific question, no one has ever been able to answer or even began to poke around, it's useless.
            1. pytar
              pytar 24 December 2021 15: 26
              -1
              Who is watching them?

              In a country with authoritarian control, where the authorities control a lot of things in the personal lives of citizens, it is difficult to calculate the real audience. With all that, they look and that's a lot! Many people do not bother to search, check information from alternative sources. Everyone accepts without criticism, as the pure truth. And then there is such a paradoxical phenomenon - the oversaturation of the Internet with fake, distorted information. Most of it is generated by the same pro-government propaganda institutions.
              EVERYWHERE EVERYTHING IS THE SAME! more-less.

              Since the steps can be very different, it turns out that not all are the same!
              We have a world wide web EVERYWHERE where there is some kind of connection!
              Those. choice of information for every taste ... And since control over the information space is in the hands of NOT OUR AUTHORITIES ...

              The authorities are working hard to plug this gap! Know about projects to create a control firewall. You also have a lot of facts when the authorities persecute people for expressing a different opinion on social networks and in public.
              But this, if you have it, is different from what the central mass media broadcast in our country.

              That's the difference! 1. We do not have "media centers" except for BNT and BNR. 2. The media serves the information that is interesting to people. It is clear that society is more interested in domestic politics, the state of the country, economy, etc. And they are all very critical of the authorities, the authorities themselves think, because the opposition is always strong, no matter who is ruling there. If the media don't meet the requirements, they lose viewers and go bankrupt. Competition does not forgive, it leads everyone to adequate!
              By the way, such a question ... and where is everything good and blissful now ??? no matter how much I asked this simple and specific question, no one has ever been able to answer or even began to poke around, it's useless.

              Actually the question is strange! request Nowhere, can never be "everything is good and blissful"! The whole difference is in the steps, they are in different countries and even in different regions of the same country, they are different!
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 24 December 2021 18: 13
                +1
                Quote: pytar
                In a country with authoritarian control, where the authorities control a lot of things in the personal lives of citizens, it is difficult to calculate the real audience. With all that, they look and that's a lot! Many people do not bother to search, check information from alternative sources. Everyone accepts without criticism, as the pure truth.

                You want to make me laugh, TO DEATH ...
                In general, if you only have this nonsense on your mind, go ... soar to anyone else.
                I AM NOT INTERESTED.
                1. pytar
                  pytar 24 December 2021 19: 18
                  -2
                  You want to make me laugh, TO DEATH ...

                  The normal reaction would not be laughter, but sadness ...
                  In general, if you only have this nonsense on your mind, go ... soar to anyone else.

                  From your "universe", all these normal, real things seem to be nonsense, this is clear. bully
                  go ... soar to anyone else. I AM NOT INTERESTED.

                  I'm not going anywhere, I'll stay here. yes And if you are not interested, go wherever you want. fellow
  3. paul3390
    paul3390 24 December 2021 11: 12
    +3
    Therefore, the United States may well agree to weaken support for Ukraine.

    In exchange for what? Will we have to melt with China ?? An unequal exchange, to put it mildly ..

    In general, the policy of the Russian Federation over the past 30 years has led to a sad result - we actually have nothing to bargain with, we have already given everything. And now - we have come to a critical situation, when either the last crumbs will be taken from us and the Russian Federation will be forced to capitulate to the West, or a war. It was before the USSR could have forced to compromise, like you don't climb here, but we are here. We are removing missiles from Cuba - and you are from Turkey. And so on .. Now - there is nothing to bargain with, that's it, alles. That is why the native guarantor was so frightened at the extreme conference - such as the last red lines, no more concessions .. Of course, no - there is nothing to give up already .. Got bad, vigorous, dear partners .. I just think - the Westerners put the device on all these lines .. For decades they succeeded - why now they suddenly have to back up? So - we are getting ready for Atatuyu, I hope - not for a global one .. The Russian Federation seems to have no other way out anymore ..
    1. Tony T.
      Tony T. 24 December 2021 11: 37
      0
      Do any of you rock and dark commentators even see what's going on in America?
      Who is crumbling? Russia and China or America?
    2. Fox_Fox
      Fox_Fox 24 December 2021 11: 54
      0
      The Russian Federation will be forced to capitulate to the West, or a war.

      Chef, it's all gone!
      Global politics is not Putin, Biden or Xi Jinping. This is a huge number of variables and stakeholders. How everything will be - only God knows.
      take away the last crumbs

      In the 90s (and then I received $ 5 a month) the United States had real opportunities to completely get rid of Russia and still take the last crumbs - they could not / did not want to. And now, even more so, nothing will come of them. Nothing has happened yet, and you have already raised your paws up and scribble defeatist opuses.
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 24 December 2021 12: 17
      +1
      Quote: paul3390
      I just think - Westerners put the device on all these lines ..

      Then they would not have taken these proposals for consideration at all, but no, they want to talk, and not publicly, but behind the scenes, so they understand that there is a risk of paraffin. It is clear that everyone will not accept, but they will have to move in some way. Let's take a look. winked
    4. flicker
      flicker 24 December 2021 13: 16
      -4
      Now - there is nothing to bargain with, that's it, alles.
      Come on, nothing.
      And what is the American project "Covid-19 pandemic" worth?
      Pandemic Covid - 19 is the main transformational tool of the Pins to reformat the world.
      Once again, BASIC.
      All hope is for him. It was he who was supposed to bring down all the leading economies in the world.
      And it needs global coverage so that everyone can participate in this psychosis!
      And it is worth depriving this project of global coverage, as it becomes a dummy.
      ---
      We can send this project to hell.
      And it will crumble. Because for it, once again, global coverage is needed.

      We will be followed by China and India, and there and other countries (since no one wants to ruin their economy).
      And Europe, if anything, even if it follows the lead of the United States and ruins its economy, will depend even more on China, by the way, too, on us, and on India.
  4. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 24 December 2021 11: 17
    +1
    The photo is funny. At first it seemed to me blindly that his fly was unbuttoned, and his shirt was sticking out of it.
    Immediately the situation presented itself: a very drunk man was so upset while he was coping with a small need that he forgot to cover himself. Life!
  5. askort154
    askort154 24 December 2021 11: 21
    +4
    Ukraine and the United States fell into a "strategic trap"

    The author is well versed in the international situation, outlined the real situation, and does not blindly follow the Russophobic hysteria that is fashionable in the West today.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 December 2021 11: 27
    +3
    The United States and Ukraine are in a "strategic trap"
    Let's hope that this is indeed the case. At least one can agree on Russia's relations with China, India and other countries listed by the author. But the assumption that the United States will abandon Ukraine raises great doubts, although it has more than once observed how the Americans for the sake of their interests abandoned and substituted their "allies". The principle is that we are responsible for those who are not working for the Americans.
    1. flicker
      flicker 24 December 2021 13: 27
      0
      The principle is that we are responsible for those who are not working for the Americans.
      It's true. Moreover, they will be the first to point the finger at Ukraine, they say, it was she herself who learned the war with Russia from her and the demand.
      ---
      Only we can pick up this American message and add that this Ukraine with a hangover sent from somewhere near the Dnieper "Ukrainian" Iskanders and Calibers ("taken away" from the Russian invaders) straight to the Pindos bases in Romania. Poland, etc.
      What to take from them? One word, drunk request laughing
  7. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 24 December 2021 11: 53
    0
    At the moment, the biggest risk for Russia in the whole brewed mess is a successful attempt on GDP. It all depends on whether he correctly evaluates the traitors around him, and whether there are enough faithful people. He always controls the international situation itself, he has never broken off on a large scale yet. And here the stakes are nowhere larger, everything must be clearly prepared, so that the only weak link is himself.
  8. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 24 December 2021 12: 22
    +2
    Traps and traps, plus crossbows at every turn. Every world leader (in the sense of a country) has his own problems. In China, this is Taiwan, in America, it is world hegemony and the death of the white population under the pressure of the black, in Russia, the collection of Russian lands and their protection.
    Ukraine faces a choice - either the disintegration of Czechoslovakia is peaceful, or the Ukrainians will have to emigrate to Poland or Canada.
    What will be the trigger for the Great Redistribution? One of the utopian options is Israel's attack on Iran. Almost immediately, the movement of Russian troops to Ukraine, then the elimination of the blockade of the Kaliningrad region by Lithuania and NATO, China restores sovereignty over Taiwan, Azerbaijan unites with Turkey at the expense of Armenia, the Taliban captures Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.
    You can also add Scotland declares independence. This is what my fevered brain has come up with so far. You have to understand the more incredible the forecast, the faster it comes true. what belay soldier Merry Christmas, Catholic!
    1. stankow
      stankow 24 December 2021 14: 30
      +1
      Serbia conquers Kosovo, Argentina Falklands, Japan Kuriles, Spain Gibraltar, Catalonia declares independence. There is plenty of bad energy in the world.
  9. faterdom
    faterdom 24 December 2021 12: 47
    +1
    The Americans made a mistake 30 years ago, when, on the advice of the Polish freak Bzhe, they decided that seizing Ukraine is happiness, "Heartland", like, without which there is nowhere, the country is "the key to everything."
    Got it. And here it is - happiness.
    Ukraine is one of the main destroyers of the USSR, but you will ruin the United States too, thanks to Nuland and her husband Kogan.
    And everyone will feel better.