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President of Russia: One gets the impression that a new military operation is being prepared in Ukraine

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During the press conference, Vladimir Putin was asked a question regarding the situation in Ukraine, including the situation related to security issues. The President was asked to comment on the persistent accusations against the Russian Federation that Russia is allegedly building up a grouping of troops near the borders of Ukraine for an "invasion."


Putin noted that he constantly hears these accusations against the Russian Federation. And behind these accusations, there may be activities of an anti-Russian nature.

According to the president, there is an impression that a new ("third") military operation is being prepared in Ukraine:

And we are constantly being told: Don't interfere.

The Russian President noted that Ukraine continues to turn into anti-Russia, including the supply of weapons.

Head of State:

And how can Russia live in such conditions? With a constant eye on what is happening there? Wait for the fuck up?

During the press conference, the President of the Russian Federation pointed out that Russia had come up with specific proposals on security issues.

Vladimir Putin noted that he had spoken with US President Biden and pointed out Russia's concerns during the talks. According to the head of state, in general, a positive attitude was heard. Specific groups have already been identified that, from the Russian and American sides, will deal with issues of specific negotiations on global security.

President Putin recalled that the situation began to get complicated from the moment when a coup d'etat took place in Ukraine. Today, in the current situation, there is only one option - full compliance with the Minsk agreements.

President Putin:

Poroshenko promised that there would be no military action. But these actions themselves began. Then what? - environment, tension ...

According to Vladimir Putin, Russia cannot resignedly watch the growing threat to its security.

A SkyNews spokeswoman asked Putin to give guarantees of non-aggression against Ukraine and other countries. According to the President of the Russian Federation, the West must understand that the main guarantee is to stop threatening Russia itself, to abandon the deployment of strike systems near our borders, and to stop NATO expansion.

How would the United States react to the fact if our missiles appeared on the border of Mexico and the United States. There are also territorial issues there. California, Texas who owned? They don't remember. And they remember about Crimea ... Five waves of NATO enlargement. We are the ones who came to Britain or the United States. No, they came to our borders. And you demand guarantees from me. You must give us a guarantee, and immediately!
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  2. carpenter
    carpenter 23 December 2021 13: 34
    -5
    The Russian President noted that Ukraine continues to turn into anti-Russia, including the supply of weapons.

    They are turning into a Bandera state, which was not allowed to become a state by J.V. Stalin
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 23 December 2021 13: 54
      +14
      Quote: carpenter
      The Russian President noted that Ukraine continues to turn into anti-Russia, including the supply of weapons.

      They are turning into a Bandera state, which was not allowed to become a state by J.V. Stalin

      A flaw in Joseph Vissarionovich. Oh, what a flaw! ... If he knew how the "grateful descendants" would make him look like a bloodsucker, he would have brought Galicia Banderism to its roots like Genghis Khan - everyone under an ax who is taller than the wheel of a cart, and another two meters deep into the ground under it plowed.
      1. carpenter
        carpenter 23 December 2021 14: 25
        +10
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        A flaw in Joseph Vissarionovich. Oh what a flaw! ..

        Iosif Vissarionovich believed the Trotskyist Khrushchev, but in vain.
      2. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 23 December 2021 14: 49
        +2
        Iosif Vissarionovich's flaw
        This is the negligence of Lavrenia Pavlovich.
      3. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 23 December 2021 15: 06
        +7
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        ... If he knew

        What can we assume now ... We have lost 100 million of the population In the USSR there were 240 million and 40 percent of the country's territory. Plus, ethnic groups in Russia have raised their heads. all these "proud peoples with an eagle's eyes" ... It is now necessary to think and decide about this.
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 24 December 2021 12: 50
          +4
          In Ukraine, the West is not only clearly preparing an operation to seize the LPNR, but Russia is constantly threatened and warned not to interfere! Ultimate arrogance! negative
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 25 December 2021 15: 01
            +2
            Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
            In Ukraine, the West is not only clearly preparing an operation to seize the LPNR, but Russia is constantly threatened and warned not to interfere!

            Kipling was right
            It will be a glorious hunt, although for many it will be the last.
            There is no need and no wish to go to war, but you will have to react. The blue dream of pink American dreams is to arrange Afghan-2.0 for us. Only it won't be Afgan. It will be Korea 2.0. Or Vietnam.
      4. Ros 56
        Ros 56 25 December 2021 13: 04
        0
        The flaw is obvious, now we need to correct the situation, otherwise it will come back to haunt our grandchildren, great-grandchildren.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 23 December 2021 14: 27
      -9
      Vladimir Vladimirovich, have you just woken up? They are giving us ultimatums, and you’re still talking about the talks! Wasn’t tired of yielding to the United States? We may already have American nuclear bombs and missiles close by, but we’re talking about negotiations. We haven’t talked enough with the enemies since 2014, when they gave up the Russian lands with the population to nationalists and those who openly celebrated the Maidan in the Russian city of Kiev ???????????????
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 23 December 2021 15: 09
        +1
        Quote: Thrifty
        2014, when they gave the Russian lands with the population to nationalists and those who openly celebrated the Maidan in the Russian city of Kiev ????????????????

        These claims are against the leaders of the communists Gorbachev and Yeltsin! And also to the local leaders of the communists to Kravchuk and Shushkevich. Maybe you forgot their names?
        1. bayard
          bayard 23 December 2021 20: 49
          +3
          A colleague posed a question to the President of the Russian Federation in the part concerning him - about the events and actions / inaction during his term of office. And especially for the events of the last 8 years.
          Remember the mandate from the Duma issued to the president in 2014?
          Appeals (repeated) of the fugitive (but legitimate) president of this piece of the Russian World?
          About the recognition by the legitimate government of state and war criminals who committed an armed coup of genuine separatists (who immediately took Kraina-U out of the CIS)?
          And now it's hot and they're talking about lines, guarantees and other ... cleverness.
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 23 December 2021 21: 14
            -2
            Quote: bayard
            A colleague posed a question to the President of the Russian Federation in the part concerning him - about the events and actions / inaction during his term of office. And especially for the events of the last 8 years.
            Remember the mandate from the Duma issued to the president in 2014?

            And I reminded that, I'll get better WHO contributed to this. If they made mistakes before me, it does not mean that I am guilty of mistakes .. And it is obvious that now there is something to mark the red lines.
            1. bayard
              bayard 23 December 2021 21: 31
              +2
              Quote: 30 vis
              And I reminded that, I'll get better WHO contributed to this

              First of all, the one to whom the Yeltsin Center in Yekaterinburg was built at the expense of the state.
              And of course Gorbachev, to whom the new government dumped awards and an honorary pension.
              In Belarus, Shushkevich was given a minimum pension from the state.
              Even though he deserves the gallows.
              But today we are talking about the current government - after all, it is she who is accountable for the accomplished successes.
              After all, what was missed in 2014 brought not only a lot of blood and suffering to the people of Donbass ... and Ukraine itself, seized by criminals, but also monstrous losses and losses to Russia itself. According to some estimates, losses and lost profits are already calculated in more than a trillion US dollars, thwarted by the rearmament programs of the Army and Navy, the rupture of many cooperative ties ... The collapse of the aircraft industry and at least the military shipbuilding programs.
              This is the price of mistakes, unpreparedness for challenges and indecision at a critical moment in History.
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 23 December 2021 21: 49
                +1
                Quote: bayard
                After all, what was missed in 2014 brought not only a lot of blood and suffering to the people of Donbass ... and Ukraine itself, seized by criminals, but also monstrous losses and losses to Russia itself.

                The army now and the army in 2014 are two big differences. Hanging monstrous mistakes of others on today's Russia is not decent.
                1. bayard
                  bayard 23 December 2021 22: 52
                  +4
                  Is it possible in 2013 - 2014. Was there any other government in the Russian Federation?
                  Or was it not GDP that persuaded (!) Yanukovych to capitulate to the conspirators and their Western curators? According to HIS own words ??
                  Say "Obama deceived me then"?
                  At the most difficult and decisive moment, the one for whom there was the last hope ... persuades to GIVE UP.
                  So who is to blame for what happened?
                  The units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs on the streets of Kiev held out ALL winter ... They burned from Molotov cocktails, they were beaten with chains, they were shot at ... So that the Olympics in Sochi would pass ... safely.
                  When exactly they - militiamen (not palitators) and soldiers of the Internal Troops said, "We have nowhere to retreat - Moscow is behind." Perfectly understanding what monsters they were holding back on the streets of Kiev then.
                  And they were told - "hand over your weapons and leave Kiev ... They then barely reached their cities ... unarmed ... when their buses were repeatedly stopped by armed gangs under combat psychotropics ...
                  I talked with these guys, including the commander of the same armored personnel carriers who tried to break through the barricades on the Maidan on the night of February 19-20 ... Do you remember how they were burned?
                  And how many wounded were brought from Kiev by the soldiers of the Sevastopol and Simferopol riot police?
                  And then what did these scumbags do in the cities and villages / townships of Donbass ??? Our Donetsk doctors told me ... about girls who were raped to a pulp ... they put bottles in their vaginas and smashed them ... or flooded their vaginas with polyurethane foam ...
                  Immediately after the exchange from captivity, our doctors told me this ... At my friend, a doctor, two children of the wounded in Shakhtyorsk died in his arms - a boy and a girl, 3 and 5 years old.
                  Have you seen the wounded children, crippled by shrapnel?
                  Have you seen how the full Grad division packages fit into the urban area? Deaf from explosions and cannon fire? Can you recognize the sound of the explosions of the Smerch anti-personnel cluster munitions?
                  Because of whose "monstrous mistakes of others" is this going on for 8 years soon?
                  And is there a bit of guilt behind those who said that they would "stand behind the backs of our women, children and old people"?
                  And how are these 7,5 years used to prepare for the already inevitable won?
                  But all this might not have happened.
                  If the Russian people were heard in the spring of 2014, when the Russian Spring broke out in at least half of the regions of Ukraine.
                  1. Osipov9391
                    Osipov9391 24 December 2021 00: 06
                    0
                    War is not always its declaration and military strikes. It could be something else.
                    Want an example? I will demonstrate.
                    In the summer of 1941, the United States stopped oil supplies to Japan, meaning that there was no oil of its own there. And this caused a very serious crisis among the samurai.
                    How could you understand this step of the Americans? After all, they understood the consequences, not fools.
                    Now further. The Japanese, through their intelligence and analysts, well calculated such steps by the Americans in advance and decided to hedge themselves.
                    With what ? And the fact that in the same 1941 they took advantage of Hitler's successes on the Western Front and after the fall of France they requisitioned her numerous colonies in the Pacific Ocean. Together with airfields and deposits of valuable raw materials, oil, non-ferrous metals, coconut plantations, etc.
                    And they got certain production capabilities. Well, at least to start a war with the United States first.
                    And the oil that Japan so much needed was in the region of Midway Island, the Philippines, and the Hawaiian Islands.

                    Therefore, the Japanese had no choice but to attack the American fleet. Which they did. Yes, they attacked first, but the Americans pushed them to this.
                    In fact, they declared war on them six months before the attack on Pearl Harbor.
                    The oil embargo and the freeze on Japanese assets.
                    And this is war.
                    Well, the Japanese, as I wrote, were given such an opportunity by the Germans that they quickly defeated France.

                    Now what is today. If the West disconnects Russia from payment systems, freezes all assets, stops supplying important goods without which Russia will be hit by a severe crisis in many areas - this will be a declaration of war on us.
                    And all these missiles on the doorstep of our house and others. What Putin says doesn’t mean anything and doesn’t make any significant announcement.
                    Yes, a spiral of escalation. But so far the country is still independent and stable in some things.
                    1. bayard
                      bayard 24 December 2021 01: 26
                      +1
                      They gave a good example. But the sanctions on the Russian Federation have been piled up since the beginning of 2015 ... That's just a war - a real War in its essence, our authorities did not consider it.
                      Just as the US and NATO seizure of Ukraine through an armed coup did not consider it.
                      They really didn’t want to think so. After all, here it is - the Olympics in Sochi, for the preparation of which the funds were spent, sufficient for the construction of a group of 6 aircraft carrier groups (AV medium VI, 4 destroyers per escort and for a tanker, supply ship, sea tug and the entire coastal infrastructure, air groups and ground airfields to them) - about 50 - 60 billion dollars.
                      Well, what kind of war ... but simply - an active foreign policy to protect (and recreate) its sphere of influence, then could there be a talk in the Kremlin? This so interfered with the implementation of the coveted plans ... which, due to such a passive position, did not materialize.
                      The "wise men" dreamed of "New Yalta" - of a new redivision of the world with the Russian Federation as part of the chief executive officers.
                      And How ?
                      Gave them Yalta?
                      And when they realized that in general, no one (from the "glavnyuk") was going to talk to them, but was going to cheat them with all the assets and remove the annoying obstacle to their plans ... too ... don't care.
                      So what ?
                      Returning to what could have been done ONCE-TWO in 2014?
                      But now it will be much more difficult.
                      But giving a reason for a big war in Europe is easy.
                      And who needs this war?
                      Who should write off the debts on the edge of force majeure as it should?
                      And what has been done in 7,5 years on import substitution?
                      Almost nothing .
                      Many competencies in aircraft construction have been lost due to the collapse in the industry. Since 2014
                      The programs of military shipbuilding and rearmament of the Fleet were stricken.
                      Or is it as it should be? In Dunno to play "wise men" of the Kremlin? "They wanted the best, but they deceived us ... They threw off Yanyk and wanted to kill ... they refused in aircraft and ship engines ... in energy turbines and for icebreakers ... a number of aircraft projects have been canceled ... the troops of the enemy alliance are already in Ukrainian airfields ... the enemy near Belgorod, Rostov and Voronezh ...
                      Did it just get it TODAY?

                      Capitalism thinks differently.
                      Only money.
                      Only for myself .
                      Even now they are not issuing "ultimatums", but persuading: "Well, let's come to an agreement ... Give us guarantees and we will hand over everything ... Don't just take Ukraine into NATO ... Give us a piece of paper about it ...".
                      They have no will, no real strength ... masculine strength ... no fidelity.
                      There is the usual selfish interest.
                      1. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 24 December 2021 02: 14
                        +1
                        They are our politicians who still hope for a new Yalta and expect negotiations from the West on these topics. But the West flatly, even guarantees of non-aggression and non-directionality does not want to give.
                        The sanctions, yes, were introduced. Well, after all, besides Sochi, our people really wanted to hold the football championship in 2018 and were afraid that it would be taken away.
                        The money was invested there.
                        The sanctions were imposed on more than one occasion. The damage from them is significant but not yet critical. The following will be the spearhead of the sanctions:
                        1. Disconnection of Russia from international payment systems. This will cause a severe crisis in the banking environment and slow down a number of enterprises, even entire industries that are tied to export-import with the West;
                        2. Termination of the supply of drugs, their substances (almost none of them), medical equipment. This will cause a massive crisis in medicine, rising prices for medicines and protests from those who need them;
                        3. Termination of supplies of aviation parts and maintenance of aircraft of Russian airlines at western airports. Since almost all transportation even within the Russian Federation will be carried by Boeing and Airbus, this will be very noticeable in the transport industry;
                        4. Termination of supplies of automotive parts and industrial goods to joint and not only Russian production facilities. This will cause their massive stop, unemployment, economic crisis, protests.

                        Even one of these points will be enough to create very serious problems for the Russian Federation.
                        What is the annoyance then? Yes, the fact that over the past 20 years or even over the last 7 years NOTHING has been done to somehow insure yourself in these things!
                        Have you started to do more medicines and medical equipment? No.
                        Forced to board our airlines on domestic liners? No.
                        Pushed foreign companies out of our car factories? No.
                        Yes, excavators in Russia no longer make their own! Assembly of imported equipment only.
                        Here it is appropriate to recall the products of the Kiev Atek, aka Red Excavator. Excavators were good, including for the Engineering Troops, and until 2014 they came to Russia.
                        Under Poroshenko, the plant was demolished and turned into a camp of the Azov Nazis.
                        And the Kiev excavators were very good. They also made combines and other equipment. Everything was destroyed under Poroshenko.

                        And history (for example, the reasons for the war between Japan and the United States) must always be studied and known. For the brain is in order. But they don't talk about it on TV.
                  2. Garris199
                    Garris199 24 December 2021 01: 07
                    +1
                    It was necessary to unambiguously resolve the issue in 14. Hard to disperse the Maidan and the whole business. Putin's huge mistake. How a child was divorced.
                  3. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 24 December 2021 10: 23
                    +2
                    Quote: bayard
                    Or was it not GDP that persuaded (!) Yanukovych to capitulate to the conspirators and their Western curators? According to HIS own words ??

                    About persuaded Yanukovych (with a small letter !!) I deeply doubt ... He persuaded himself. A coward and a traitor. I understand the horrors of the war in Donbass, there are friends who took part in the hostilities, took the wounded to Sevastopol, adopted the orphaned children of Donbass ... Among my friends there are those who died for the Russian world ... And I understand that there was no powerful upsurge of the people in Ukraine. And those who got up could not change the situation. How are these 7,5 years used? I'm sure it's not in vain. By and large, we want the same thing with you. Emotions are different.
                    1. bayard
                      bayard 24 December 2021 10: 52
                      +1
                      Quote: 30 vis
                      And I understand that there was no powerful upsurge of the people in Ukraine. And those who got up could not change the situation.

                      We forbade our comrades in other regions to raise uprisings, although they wanted and even insisted. We could not then support them, and the Kremlin was in no hurry with help. Therefore, in order not to ruin ourselves in vain, we forbade them to perform.
                      Although if you look at the very beginning of the Russian Spring, the most powerful movement was in Kharkov and Odessa. Donetsk rose later and survived only because it was farthest from the center, and because many of those who survived the defeat and arrests from other cities came here. They became the backbone. Together with Oplot and local security officials.
                      If the Kremlin really took up its mind and, moreover, made a bet on Azarov, then I’m all for it. It's time for the Sabbat to end.
                      1. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 24 December 2021 16: 21
                        -2
                        Today I have news that in the Kemerovo region the command of the local military unit is imposed by bandits and officers are forced to pay them rent every month.
                        And this does not last one month or even a year! Everyone knows and is silent.
                      2. Modya
                        Modya 25 December 2021 13: 17
                        0
                        Well, this is a consequence of the personnel policy in our state. They promote not the most worthy ones, but the most efficient and loyal ones. As a result, in the army, most of the commanders are loyal, that is, they are not capable of anything real and their units are the same.
                      3. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 25 December 2021 14: 42
                        0
                        And does the purchase of diplomas and positions also contribute to this significantly?
              2. gurzuf
                gurzuf 24 December 2021 13: 13
                -1
                So what's the mistake? The fact that he did not send troops to the territory of Ukraine? It's not a mistake. The mistake was when the militia had the opportunity to take Mariupol, but it was not taken.
                1. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 24 December 2021 13: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: gurzuf
                  So what's the mistake? The fact that he did not send troops to the territory of Ukraine? It's not a mistake. The mistake was when the militia had the opportunity to take Mariupol, but it was not taken.

                  They were waiting for a more powerful protest mood of the people in Ukraine .. And many of them were waiting ... And there was no real leader. Able to raise about to lead Ukraine. In Sevastopol, Chaly was found in Simferopol Aksyonov .. Charismatic bright, courageous leaders. And in Ukraine there was no such person .. All some Yanukovychs and Kernes ...
                2. bayard
                  bayard 24 December 2021 22: 33
                  +1
                  Quote: gurzuf
                  The mistake was when the militia had the opportunity to take Mariupol, but it was not taken.

                  This was not a mistake, but a direct and CATEGORICAL prohibition!
                  From the Kremlin!
                  They just agreed there with Akhmetov and took a compensation so that they would not take Mariupol - he has a metallurgical plant and a port there. And contracts for the supply to Europe. I didn’t want to risk and therefore paid.
                  And Mariupol then stood empty from the Maidan authorities - everything ran away like cockroaches, they abandoned everything, people WAITED and were even ready to support from within ... They didn’t let me.
                  And others here are broadcasting that "Ukraine has not risen." fool
                  The Kremlin didn't need it!
                  They did not want the uprising of Donbass - they had enough of the Crimea. And no one in the Kremlin thought about the Russian World and made no plans ... It's just political technology - the manipulation of people by means of slogans and ideas. But that is not their goal.
                  The only goal then was the Crimea.
                  But Donbass was a surprise for everyone.
                  Therefore, we forbade performances in other regions - we could not come to the rescue, the Russian Federation did not need it, and they had no chance of success without outside help. No weapons, no organization, no leaders - really universally recognized.
                  And do not forget that people live in families, and at home they are very vulnerable precisely by their family, relatives, and parents.
                  Besides, families need to be fed. Many had loans, and to leave their families at such a moment, and to leave without funds, is also a VERY difficult decision.
                  And no one expected that THIS could happen!
                  That the siloviki will simply be removed from the streets and given power to the gangs.
                  And opinions about Yanyka ... He was definitely not an angel or a model of a statesman, but they attribute to him TOO much "cowardice and indecision." Let me remind you that street battles between the police and the bandits went on all winter - 3 months. And all this time the ambassadors of the USA, England, Poland followed him all day long ... and constantly threatened with all punishments if he used force against "peaceful demonstrators".
                  Remember last year's Belarus?
                  There, the leader WHERE stood stronger on his feet, he had no oligarchs with his own armies and a pool of officials, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the KGB and the Army were loyal to him ... but he barely resisted.
                  Now project THIS onto Ukraine and Yanukovych, who is in power for the first time, the oligarchs are against him and in collusion with enemy states ...
                  Rely on Russia?
                  So he leaned on - at the end of 2013.
                  Because of what all the processes and accelerated.
                  A lot of joint projects were going to be launched - to resume the construction of An-124 (only for the needs of the Russian Federation at least 100 units), in the energy sector, the military-industrial complex, shipyards, several types of An aircraft began to be assembled in the Russian Federation under a license ... Russia allocated a loan to Ukraine - 15 billion .doll. (they received only 3 billion and they are not going to give it back to this day) ... After all, it seemed that everything was done right, the EU saw the trap and DID NOT SIGN the agreement on Euroassociation ... and they staged a coup.
                  AND HE HAS BEEN HOLDING all winter.
                  And the Ministry of Internal Affairs held on - "Berkut", PPS, VV ... the army was not involved.
                  And at the most critical moment, when it was important ... even just moral support ... with the words "Well, hold on, we are morally with you" ... he heard WHAT?
                  Sign the surrender, disarm the Interior Ministry and the SBU special forces and take them out of Kiev.
                  GIVE UP!
                  That is why everything happened then so quickly and unexpectedly!
                  He was left without support from the Russian Federation, while having a tough conflict with internal oligarchs ... who bribed the Ministry of Internal Affairs, military (generals), officials, used methods of psychological pressure on their family members ... they were simply intimidated.
                  And he signed the agreement drawn up by the Anglo-Saxons.
                  And he did not run, but immediately flew to Kharkov, where the deputies of the Party of Regions and others allied to them - all levels - gathered. The idea was to move / return the capital of Ukraine to Kharkov, declare the coup in Kiev illegal and ask for support from the Russian Federation.
                  But nothing came of it - they no longer had military support - they themselves had dissolved the Ministry of Internal Affairs. And Kolomoisky, over the same night, transferred several thousand militants from Kiev to Kharkov on buses ... And they entered the night city in columns ... and in the morning, when the deputies had just gathered in the hall ... the building was surrounded by armed militants.
                  Do you remember footage of street battles in Kharkov?
                  How many times all this scum brought there was simply in the trash and bloody snot was knocked out ... And the Kharkov authorities then turned to the Russian Federation, people went to Moscow - at least take the Kharkov region into the Russian Federation.
                  Shish!
                  And Yanukovych on the same morning, having recorded a statement on camera in the building of the regional council, flew to Donetsk, hoping to at least find support there.
                  But the sold-out military did not let him go there.
                  Threatened to shoot down a helicopter, it was turned away from Donetsk.
                  And he moved to cars ... And the very same pursuit races and evasion from ambushes began, with false motorcade ... And in ambushes on the roads there were up to 300 bandits armed with machine guns and machine guns.
                  Well, how did it end, how Putin did send helicopters from Sevastopol and took him first to Sevastopol, then to Rostov.
                  Once again, we recall last year's Belarus and Lukashenko, who was in power and is much stronger.
                  What would have happened to him without the support and reliance on Russia?
                  So in Belarus, one militia and the KGB held a mutiny, and in Ukraine, the people's militia - "Antimaydan" came to the aid of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Who, together with the Ministry of Internal Affairs, participated in street battles until the last day.
                  But left alone with the whole machine of terror of the collective West ... who can resist?
                  But no help came.
                  ... But it was THEN, provided the Kremlin with help ... but simply moral support ... Russia would already be United.
                  And so - and to this day remains a stub of the Great Empire and Himself.
                  For Russia is Great, Small, White Russia and the Free Cossack Lands of Central Asia and the Caucasus.
                  And the one who thinks otherwise is a traitor to his land, his blood, his Kin and simply ... a separatist in the literal sense of the word.
                  1. Osipov9391
                    Osipov9391 24 December 2021 23: 38
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                    We are now still waiting for a new Yalta and waiting for guarantees / agreements from the West that you will not take Ukraine into NATO and put your bases there.
                    Well, at least say a word. But promise something.
                    The answer is no. We will not give anything and conversations on these topics are impossible.
                    1. bayard
                      bayard 25 December 2021 01: 27
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                      Quote: Osipov9391
                      they say you will not take Ukraine into NATO and put your bases there.
                      Well, at least say a word. But promise something.

                      Have you read the text of that ultimatum?
                      After all, it says not only about Ukraine.
                      It says ABOUT ALL EASTERN EUROPE.
                      That it is forbidden to have American nuclear weapons, military bases, and the very membership in NATO of states bordering on Russia is inadmissible.
                      And the requirement to withdraw all their nuclear weapons from Europe.
                      On the prohibition of American bombers to fly near the borders of the Russian Federation.
                      On the prohibition of US ships to enter the Black Sea and other waters adjacent to our shores.
                      Tight control and firm commitment.
                      This is not a "talk to us" nagging.
                      This is precisely the Ultimatum, valid until January 14, 2022.
                      If the ENTIRE LIST OF MEASURES is not adopted, measures of a MILITARY and MILITARY-TECHNICAL character will be taken.
                      So Ukraine, the Baltics and Transnistria will have to be urgently returned.
                      Why is it so harsh and rude?
                      And right now?
                      Right now, the EXPIRED expiration date of the last nuclear warheads created before the end of 1992 (later nuclear weapons were not produced in the United States). The period (limiting) of the guaranteed shelf life of the most advanced nuclear warhead is 30 years! For physical reasons - the accumulation of trans-uranium elements and isotopes over 30 years makes the nuclear warhead substandard and it is subject to complete processing at a radiochemical plant.
                      And the USA does not have such an enterprise yet.
                      And when the radiochemical plant does work, then practically everything will have to start from scratch. And gradually build up the number of warheads.
                      That is why S. Koreya walks in front of them with a gogol.
                      Today, despite all the power of its aviation and navy, the United States is completely unarmed in terms of nuclear weapons.
                      Remember Obama's rush to persuade all nuclear powers to carry out complete nuclear disarmament?
                      And nobody bought it.
                      The United States has a systemic crisis.
                      In everything.
                      And it was Biden who asked for a meeting / conversation with Putin.
                      And after the Ultimatum, he immediately requested a second meeting with a request to transfer the topics of negotiations from public to confidential.
                      Are they SO "don't want to talk"?
                      And Johnson immediately began to seek a conversation even by phone?
                      And Macron?
                      And why was Modi SO happy when he met (at the end of the meeting) with Putin?
                      And why is China so happy? Even though he is alarmed by the swarming of the Anglo-Saxons in the South China Sea?
                      But some insider sources say that there is practically an agreement on the division of the world into currency zones. Such zones will be in China, India, Russia, the United States (or whatever is left of them), the EU.
                      But not England!
                      That is why there was a speech in the Ultimatum about "Living Space and the Zone of National Interests of the Russian Federation - Ruble Necessary Space. And its own, rather capacious market."
                      To be embarrassed and leave Europe, they say, "Not to fight with Russia because of some Balts, Germans and Poles, would be a good decision.
                      Loss of face?
                      Was the exit from Afghanistan not like that?
                      So there they fought the Taliban in "slippers", and here - a nuclear power with "Zircons" and the Ultimatum ... And if internal disorder begins in the United States, or if the United States "suddenly" ceases to exist as a single state ... will remember to reproach the United States for "surrendering allies."
                      After all, they are constantly repeating that for some Balts, Poles, Romanians and other Czechs with the Greeks ... they WILL NOT fight.
                      Right ?
                      So they will keep their word.

                      Well, if suddenly someone barks ... it means there will be a war.
                      She (War) will write off all debts.
                      1. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 25 December 2021 02: 04
                        -1
                        Reread more than once, but what's the point? All that the Americans have long been demanding have been done - they have bases in Poland and Romania, they are equipping new ones, and they carry tactical nuclear weapons (B61) on airplanes. Even to the Baltics.
                        It was necessary to shout about it 15 years ago when NATO swallowed up the Baltic states and part of the countries of the former CMEA.
                        Now they have done everything. And they will not leave there.
                        Because they have counterarguments against us as the US did against Japan in the summer of 1941.
                        Only here we are not talking about oil, but about other supplies to Russia.

                        There can be no new agreements, even such as those signed by Gorbachev.
                        For example, the RIAC. Then equal parties did it.
                        Although the USSR is two heads higher than the USA in those things - our RSD-10 Pioneer is simply insulting to compare with their Pershing-2.
                        The last in terms of characteristics is the middle of the last century and is also on a trailer.
                        The self-propelled pioneer, the characteristics are excellent even today, 45 years after its creation!
                        That is why the Americans signed agreements on destruction, sacrificing something of their own, the same "Pershing".
                      2. bayard
                        bayard 25 December 2021 07: 31
                        +1
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        tactical nuclear weapons (B61) are carried on airplanes.

                        Yes, they already have nuclear weapons. It's all over. And the new has not yet appeared. These are all old ammunition of the 80s of the last century, sorted out many times and already substandard.
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        It was necessary to shout about it 15 years ago when NATO swallowed up the Baltic states and part of the countries of the former CMEA.

                        Then no one would listen to us, although they said ... they just smirked, "It's not against you."
                        And now the question has been raised, moreover in a comprehensive manner, and on condition that the requirements are accepted by the entire list without exceptions.
                        And all the Western leaders suddenly wanted to talk, and Biden, right after the publication of the Ultimatum ... and a request to transfer the negotiations to a confidential mode from the public sphere.
                        There is time until January 14, let's see what the result will be.
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        The pioneer is simply insulting to compare with their "Pershing-2".

                        Different missiles - our heavy one, about three heads + false blocks and electronic warfare means, the power of each head is an order of magnitude greater than the Pershing-2, the range is 5500 km. against 1800 km. But the accuracy of "Pershing-2" is an order of magnitude higher than that of "Pioneer", and that is what they were terrible - the weapon of the first strike, decapitating and disarming. On command and administrative centers, launch corrections and mines of ICBMs and MRBMs in the European part.
                        We would then return the same "Pioneers" to Cuba, together with the Kyrgyz Republic (the land version of the "Granat", that would be the ANSWER. I would have put my brains right at once. But ... the Soviet "elite" then was already preparing the country for surrender.
                        And now they are again talking about missiles in Cuba. Maybe we'll live to admire the new Cuban missile crisis.
                      3. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 25 December 2021 14: 40
                        0
                        The Americans should have fresh charges for the Trident missiles. They seem to be at least made only officially until 2002.
                        And Britain (Aldermaston) and France (Marcoule) for their SLBMs made charges until recently from plutonium accumulated at nuclear power plants at those plants that I mentioned.
                        There are half a thousand charges from at least two countries.
                      4. bayard
                        bayard 25 December 2021 18: 31
                        0
                        That is why I did not write about England and France.
                        Will they want to fit in for the United States?
                        Are they daring?
                        We have more than enough non-strategic funds for them. England and drowning altogether is not a question.
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        Americans should have fresh charges for Trident missiles

                        No last warheads were assembled at the end of 1992.
                        And those - ultra-low-power, which they have been talking about lately, these are detonators taken from old BBs. But these detonators have a power of up to 0,5 Kt in TNT equivalent.
                        And against them only on strategic carriers 1550 warheads (actually more, because one bomber is counted as one warhead ... and they have 8 - 12 - 20 BB on each).
                        And this is not counting the BB on tactical and operational-tactical carriers, as well as on the MRBM, incl. "Daggers". There can be 50 pieces of "Daggers" in one salvo +, and several such salvos can be performed per day. "Gauges" are just as great take off from the ground.

                        Yes, and the US has dozens of those detonators in service.
                      5. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 25 December 2021 23: 46
                        0
                        By the way, the "pioneers" planned to send them to ... Chukotka instead of Cuba!
                        From there, with a range of more than 5000 km, many objects, not only in Alaska, but on the mainland of the United States were at a glance.
                        SSBN bases on the Pacific coast, strategic aviation airfields.
                        The Portal object was called ...
                      6. bayard
                        bayard 26 December 2021 00: 15
                        0
                        Yes, I know about this base, there are shelters in mountain tunnels - up to several hundred Kt. can withstand. They seem to have been updated for several years. "Pioneers" from there covered, except for Alaska, almost the entire west coast.
                        But about Cuba, they changed their minds in vain. It was the placement of missiles there that was a mirror image of the missile threat in Europe. And here we would play on each other's nerves.
                        And we already had an oceanic fleet then.
                        It was possible to form a Caribbean squadron of preventive deployment there and to enhance it to transfer there for constant duty a couple of SSBNs pr. 667 with first stage missiles (range 2000 km.) - They still had enough resources, but they were noisy and short-lived. But under the cover of the ships, the squadrons would be a good pistol at the temple of imperialism, as Gorshkov liked to say. Together with a couple of Pioneer divisions in Cuba and a brigade or two of launching missiles (land-based Pomegranate), we would create such a threat to them that only this missile group would be able to win the war with the United States.
                        But it would be possible to deploy a couple of Tu-22M3 regiments with anti-ship missiles in the south of Cuba ... To balance the forces of the Fleet in the Caribbean.
                        And then it would be possible to talk and set conditions.
                        Until the withdrawal of US troops from Europe and Japan and South Korea.

                        But the authorities of the USSR then were not going to "frighten" anyone ... then they were preparing their own plan for treason and destruction of the State.
                      7. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 26 December 2021 00: 23
                        0
                        There were three pioneers in Chukotka. One is aimed at Kitsap (SSBN base and aircraft carrier + missile storage + nuclear warhead storage + repair docks for nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers) and the other two at some other objects - B-52 and B-1V airfields.
                        Although from Chukotka, the range made it possible to reach even Florida and its cosmodrome at Cape Canaveral.

                        The Kitsap naval base itself, although the most important on the Pacific coast, is not key.
                        At the time of the attack, or even now, the ships and submarines that are moving there may not be there.
                        Some are in the service, the other part for the winter time is taken to Pearl Harbor, San Diego, Guam, Diego Garcia with their tropical climate.
                      8. bayard
                        bayard 26 December 2021 01: 00
                        0
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        At the time of the attack, or even now, the ships and submarines that are moving there may not be there.

                        The base has value in and of itself, even without the ships.
                        But Cuba is still better. Closer to the decision-making centers.
                      9. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 26 December 2021 02: 07
                        0
                        The Pioneer itself later became the prototype of Poplar and Yars?
                        One developer, one manufacturer of a rocket, a tractor and components.
                      10. bayard
                        bayard 26 December 2021 02: 54
                        -1
                        The number of MRBMs is not limited by any numerical limits, but "Topol" and "Yarsy" with "Sarmats" are included.
                        I am in favor of deploying MRBM groupings with a range of up to 6000 km. Including Cuba, Venezuela, or Nicaragua, if circumstances call for it.
                        Otherwise, yes - Votkinsk plant
                      11. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 26 December 2021 02: 58
                        0
                        CD "Griffin" that the Americans were deploying this "Tomahawk" on a car chassis in Britain and they were targeting the Baltic States, the bases of the Warsaw Pact and the Baltic Fleet?
                      12. bayard
                        bayard 26 December 2021 03: 17
                        -1
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        CD "Griffin" that the Americans placed in Britain

                        They also placed them in Italy. Their range with nuclear warheads (which is lighter) is about 2400 km. , so it almost reached the Urals. Moscow and the central industrial area were definitely in the affected area.
                      13. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 26 December 2021 03: 22
                        0
                        And what did the "Griffins" give against the "Pershing"? What is the advantage?
                        They said that the Tu-22M3 MRAP Black Sea Fleet based in the Crimea and southern Ukraine were aimed not only at the US AUG in the Mediterranean, but also at NATO bases in southern Europe, including missiles in Italy.
                      14. bayard
                        bayard 26 December 2021 03: 56
                        -1
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        And what did the "Griffins" give against the "Pershing"?

                        Range (2400 km. Versus 1800 km.) And the power of nuclear warheads (200 Kt. Versus 20 Kt.). The low-altitude profile gave these CRs stealth when reaching the target. But the flight times to the target were ... large - the speed is 850 km / h).
                        "Pershing-2" was the first weapon - a decapitation strike - against command and administrative centers, ICBM / MRBM launchers, and other targets of the first stage. flight time was 6-10 minutes.
                        There were 108 or 112 of them. in Europe, if I remember correctly.
                        And already after them numerous CDs were supposed to go, of which about 380 were deployed in Europe.
                        The most difficult target at that time was "Pershin-2", they could not yet fight at the operational and tactical level. And the only missile defense system was only around Moscow, and even that was undergoing modernization.
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        They said that the Tu-22M3 MRAP Black Sea Fleet based in the Crimea and southern Ukraine were aimed not only at the US AUG in the Mediterranean, but also at NATO bases in southern Europe, including missiles in Italy.

                        Tu-22M3 served not only in the MRA, but also as long-range strike aircraft with X-15 aerobic missiles.
      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 25 December 2021 13: 07
        0
        In how hard the Banderlogs are minus you, it can be seen that you stepped on the most Faberges. But there are also supporters, so everything is fine.
      3. isv000
        isv000 26 December 2021 20: 31
        0
        Quote: Thrifty
        Vladimir Vladimirovich, have you just woken up? They are giving us ultimatums, and you are still talking about negotiations! Isn't the United States tired of yielding?

        Have you already prepared your military ID ?! Or do you live with a wolf ?!
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 December 2021 15: 02
      0
      Quote: carpenter
      They are turning into a Bandera state, which was not allowed to become a state by J.V. Stalin

      According to your minuses, I see that you are right. I did not even expect that there are so many "adherents of Bandera and a guy from Braunau" on the site.
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 23 December 2021 13: 40
    +1
    Russia cannot resignedly watch the growing threat to its security.
    The next branch has already marked "red lines"!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 December 2021 13: 44
      0
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      The next branch has already marked "red lines"!

      Rather "red curves".
    2. 210ox
      210ox 23 December 2021 14: 12
      +4
      I do not see an opportunity to oppose something against NATO expansion? They do not want to listen from the word "absolutely". War? This will bring grief to many families ...
      1. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs 23 December 2021 14: 50
        +2
        Not everyone can look into tomorrow ... (Klitschko)
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 23 December 2021 15: 07
        +2
        Quote: 210ox
        War? This will bring grief to many families ...

        Rather, the entire planet Earth. and especially the entire European part of the Earth, where only scorched earth will remain, on which only surviving dogs will run.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 23 December 2021 15: 40
          +4
          For now, Russian-Russians and Russian-Ukrainians will soon begin killing each other, ravaging both countries.
          To the complete delight of many close-minded sofa participants in the forum ... sad
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 23 December 2021 17: 27
            +3
            Quote: voyaka uh
            For now, Russian-Russians and Russian-Ukrainians will soon begin killing each other, ravaging both countries.

            It is unlikely that it will work, of course many want it, but, as the director of the film "Kinsfolk" said, Russia's invasion of Ukraine must be earned, that is, not a hat for Senka to invade.
      3. anjey
        anjey 23 December 2021 16: 49
        +3
        War? This will bring grief to many families ..
        By the way, the peoples of the USSR, society itself, youth, in the late 30s and early 40s of the last century, were ready for the War with fascists, Nazis and imperialists of all stripes, much more, both military-technical (Osaviakhim, summer sports schools, sports and military-applied circles etc.) and ideologically (capitalism is an enemy without halftones, money, wealth
        not a cult and a goal) than our now, without ideology in the bulk, society of consumption, dough and sofa well-being. How can everyone enter martial law? from the former Soviet Union. We'll have to take an example from the militarized Jewish society and the state of Israel ??? laughing
        1. anjey
          anjey 23 December 2021 17: 14
          0
          Ideologically, we are little charged for a serious and uncompromising struggle with Western competitors, the United States and Europe .... Nobody prepares the people for this, the Russian Army alone, like, will cope, but it was and will be a part of the Russian people, where the sprouts of Victories grow.
      4. Ros 56
        Ros 56 25 December 2021 13: 09
        -1
        If you had declared this in 41, in an hour you would have stood at the wall.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 25 December 2021 18: 23
          0
          Come on not about the "brilliant green on the forehead", but your suggestions. How to prevent NATO from moving to Ukraine?
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 26 December 2021 11: 05
            0
            Do not worry, without yours and mine, by the way, too, the proposals will cost those who, according to the state, are supposed to deal with these matters.
  4. Finches
    Finches 23 December 2021 13: 41
    0
    Don't even go to see your grandmother! The other day, the Anglo-Saxon Pentagon lackey Kirby even let it slip at a briefing about more than 100 American specialists allegedly from PMCs (he reduced the number by at least 10) times, preparing rogules!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 December 2021 15: 17
      -1
      Quote: Finches
      ro more than 100 American specialists allegedly from PMCs (the figure was reduced by at least 10) times, preparing rogules!

      There is no need to cook them, they have already begun to be prepared since the 30s of the 20th century, and they do not stop cooking, Austrians and Poles, and Germans, and now NATO all together. 400 thousand, this is every ninth Svidomo.
  5. your vsr 66-67
    your vsr 66-67 23 December 2021 13: 41
    +1
    Yeah, sit and wait for the new June 41st? The President and the Ministry of Defense are doing everything right!
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 23 December 2021 14: 01
      0
      It will be interesting for the third time the question, about the guarantees of our safety. The second time he already answered competently, but already with irritation. The third time they will ask, send them in the woods. My opinion.
      1. carpenter
        carpenter 23 December 2021 14: 26
        0
        Quote: tralflot1832
        For the third time, it will be interesting to ask about the guarantees of our security.

        The USA is not an insurance company, it does not give guarantees.
    2. Kronos
      Kronos 23 December 2021 14: 05
      0
      And what do they do other than words?
    3. 210ox
      210ox 23 December 2021 14: 15
      0
      What is right? Explain. Statements, proposals. Teachings (and this is correct). But in the end what? They won't back down. They need a war. And we really do not need it.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 23 December 2021 14: 36
        +1
        And we will have to at least indicate that we are ready to defend our interests. The military know their capabilities both in the United States and in Russia. Today's conversation between Sergei Gerasimov and Millie Austin gives optimism, while we are not at war.
  6. Morglenn
    Morglenn 23 December 2021 13: 49
    +3
    Vladimir Putin noted that he spoke with US President Biden and during the negotiations pointed out Russia's concerns

    In Ukraine, they don't have to worry, In addition to expressing concerns, the Russian authorities will not do anything
  7. Sergei Zabelin
    Sergei Zabelin 23 December 2021 14: 01
    0
    Quote: your vsr 66-67
    Yeah, sit and wait for the new June 41st? The President and the Ministry of Defense are doing everything right!

    That's right, that's right, if only not as with the Olympics, otherwise our supreme has already answered very harshly to the ban on our flag and the name of the country
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 23 December 2021 15: 20
      -2
      Quote: Sergei Zabelin
      Quote: your vsr 66-67
      Yeah, sit and wait for the new June 41st? The President and the Ministry of Defense are doing everything right!

      That's right, that's right, if only not as with the Olympics, otherwise our supreme has already answered very harshly to the ban on our flag and the name of the country

      The site continues not to rate comments that run counter to slogans.
  8. Woodman
    Woodman 23 December 2021 14: 05
    +2
    I look, now Sobchak again lit up at the press conference. Why is she even invited there? And if they are not invited, then why are they allowed to enter the hall?
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 23 December 2021 14: 34
      0
      And I noticed how she changed from opposition to human rights defenders smile
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 23 December 2021 14: 38
        0
        Quote: Pessimist22
        how she changed from opposition to human rights defenders

        It is not the same?
        1. your1970
          your1970 23 December 2021 16: 46
          +2
          Quote: Lesovik
          Quote: Pessimist22
          how she changed from opposition to human rights defenders

          It is not the same?

          No, these are different heaps ...
    2. Palestinian
      Palestinian 23 December 2021 19: 32
      +1
      I can answer .... they go there as a fun party ... to have fun ... to bargain, you know what ...
  9. cniza
    cniza 23 December 2021 14: 18
    0
    According to the president, there is an impression that a new ("third") military operation is being prepared in Ukraine:


    I hope that then there will be no third Minsk ...
    1. carpenter
      carpenter 23 December 2021 14: 28
      0
      Quote: cniza
      I hope that then there will be no third Minsk ..

      And there will be a second Nuremberg.
      1. cniza
        cniza 23 December 2021 14: 36
        +2
        This is necessary and we will conduct it, most likely, in Rostov ...
  10. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 23 December 2021 14: 36
    +1
    President of Russia: One gets the impression that a new military operation is being prepared in Ukraine
    This impression does not add up, but has long been formed. Back in 2014, it became clear that mattresses with their own interests would not just leave Ukraine and would work to exacerbate the situation.
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 23 December 2021 14: 46
    +3
    You must give us a guarantee, and immediately!

    Here Putin waved of course. The US guarantees are not worth the paper on which they are written!
    1. Kesha1980
      Kesha1980 23 December 2021 15: 37
      0
      Superfluous word - "guarantees"). The Skynews journalist just has to give, and now! am
  12. Two
    Two 23 December 2021 14: 49
    +2
    There is no one to talk to, no one capable of negotiation. And the Young Bandera people "do not shake" and do not understand, quietly sucking on the Western "candy".
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  14. singless
    singless 23 December 2021 18: 40
    0
    so many people to graze. Zelensky you think faster or there or run Zelya
  15. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 23 December 2021 19: 33
    -3
    And how can Russia live in such conditions? With a constant eye on what is happening there? Wait for the fuck up?

    But what about the famous: "If a fight is inevitable, hit first."?
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 December 2021 13: 02
    0
    I hope our darkest doctor has prepared an antidote. soldier