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In the press of Slovakia: Russia understands only strength

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In the press of Slovakia: Russia understands only strength

Russia has put forward demands to the West to provide guarantees, allegedly aimed at ensuring pan-European security, but this is not the case. In fact, Putin is encroaching on the sovereignty of the countries of Eastern Europe, the author of the article for the Slovak edition of Aktuality claims.


Putin did not accept the collapse of the Soviet Union and the loss of the USSR satellites in Europe. Moscow's new demands on Washington are nothing more than an attempt by Russia to reshape European security. In fact, Putin encroaches on the sovereignty of European countries, demanding from the West to prohibit the deployment of weapons on the territory of countries that joined NATO after 1997, the author writes, stating that Slovakia is a free country and decides who and where to deploy.

Slovakia will not go under the Russian yoke, having got rid of it once and for all after the collapse of the USSR

- writes a Slovak journalist, clearly suffering from Russophobia.

30 years ago, the Slovaks achieved the collapse of communism and the withdrawal of Soviet troops from their territory, there will be no return. And Putin, with his demands for guarantees, intervenes in the self-determination of sovereign states, which have the right to decide for themselves whose troops to deploy on their territory.

Russia sent its demands to Washington, where they have already stated that they will make a decision only after consultations with its Eastern European partners. At the same time, the United States knows that Russian demands are impracticable, so they will not allow Moscow to dictate its terms.

The latest events around Ukraine have shown that Russia is actually blackmailing NATO by putting forward its own conditions. Since economic methods of influence on Russia did not work, NATO must act by force, since Russia only understands force. It remains only to demonstrate this power, as they write in the Slovak press.
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  1. Vladimir 290
    Vladimir 290 21 December 2021 08: 32
    +33
    and these started barking again
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 December 2021 08: 48
      +21
      Quote: Vladimir 290
      and these started barking again

      "everyone ran, and I ran" - everyone yaps, and I yap. And then suddenly they will forget during the evacuation! )))
      1. Shiva83483
        Shiva83483 21 December 2021 20: 44
        +7
        And about the "cooperation" with Aloizych these do not have the desire to remember? Ali think they prayed?
      2. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 22 December 2021 16: 55
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        "everyone ran, and I ran" - everyone yaps, and I yap.

        And how! How can a Slovak mongrel remain silent when everyone is barking? What if the owner notices that she is silent when everyone is barking? It's scary to even think of silence! laughing laughing laughing
    2. svp67
      svp67 21 December 2021 09: 29
      +23
      Quote: Vladimir 290
      and these started barking again

      Yes, just like September 01, 1939 ... everyone is trying to be on the side of the strong ...
      So no one reproaches them with an attack on Poland at that time.
      You see, they returned the territories "unjustly" seized by Poland, but the USSR was so wrong, it also "captured" the territories unjustly seized by Poland ...
    3. Real Pilot
      Real Pilot 21 December 2021 10: 07
      +14
      If Russia understands only strength, then what will Slovakia understand?
      After all, they just have nothing to "demonstrate" (as the Russophobe writes), they are like a small yapping dog that first barks at wolfhounds, and then hides in the hands of the owner!

      But signals from Washington indicate that no one will truly defend. But Russia is not attacking ... So while they are yapping, and then they will sadly go to the cost - and it does not matter whose - this is how the superpowers agree, because there is no smell of sovereignty and independence there.
      1. fruc
        fruc 21 December 2021 11: 00
        +6
        It remains only to demonstrate this power, as they write in the Slovak press.

        These go..oths from the Slovak edition of Aktuality decided to be in the news trend. Whatever they write, all the same articles of garbage content as in the "Galyun-Times".
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 21 December 2021 14: 52
        +5
        Quote: RealPilot
        If Russia understands only strength, then what will Slovakia understand?

        When this "evromoshka" snatches the Russian "fly swatter", then it will understand, but while it buzzes with impunity, you can say on credit.
    4. PROXOR
      PROXOR 21 December 2021 10: 42
      +1
      Is Slovakia ready to answer 1 on 1 for the market? The question is rhetorical.
      1. fruc
        fruc 21 December 2021 11: 05
        +1
        Some d ... moron from the idiotic Aktuality wrote it.
        1. PROXOR
          PROXOR 21 December 2021 11: 17
          +2
          Well, if they didn’t say that, then let them beat the piston up to the tomatoes.
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 21 December 2021 12: 18
        -1
        Quote: PROXOR
        Is Slovakia ready to answer 1 on 1 for the market? The question is rhetorical.

        So they got lost in a flock, so that they would not act 1 on 1 against a superior opponent.
        1. PROXOR
          PROXOR 21 December 2021 13: 51
          +11
          Life does not teach them anything. Napoleon gathered everyone, Hitler gathered everyone. Leopard change his spots. They say the truth - it's time to stop being good winners.
          1. oracul
            oracul 23 December 2021 07: 44
            +1
            I think it should be added that now the USA is gathering its flock.
        2. Barberry25
          Barberry25 21 December 2021 15: 54
          +2
          it seems to them that they are in a flock ... but when one of them, chosen as a scapegoat, is going to get it, they will give him up on their own ..
    5. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 21 December 2021 11: 12
      +3
      Quote: Vladimir 290
      and these started barking again

      They have severe strength. 7.5 thousand land! Well, the opinion ... is absolutely decisive. No way without them wassat
    6. Flyer_64
      Flyer_64 21 December 2021 11: 42
      +1
      The satellites of fascist germany started to play, they changed one owner to another. There is a version (why the version? According to recent events is no longer a version), about the existence of a plan in the United States called Anaconda Loop. Whether this plan actually exists, or is it someone's invention, no one knows. The anaconda loop is a plan developed in the bowels of the CIA in the 80s of the last century. The purpose of this plan is the phased strangulation of the USSR, and then Russia. Why is the plan called Anaconda Loop? Like a snake called anaconda wraps around and slowly strangles its victim, so the United States must consistently surround and then strangle Russia. The third stage entered into force, reaching the borders of Russia. The process has started. And we already not only know, but already see this process.
  2. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 21 December 2021 08: 35
    0
    Well, where are you going .. well?
  3. Finches
    Finches 21 December 2021 08: 35
    +51
    "Russia only understands strength" Napaleon and Hitler confirm ... laughing
    1. Finches
      Finches 21 December 2021 09: 29
      +16
      I wonder who minus - Napoleon or Hitler? laughing
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 21 December 2021 09: 44
        +17
        The late Bandera !!! bully
        1. Sovpadenie
          Sovpadenie 21 December 2021 14: 12
          +3
          but I wonder who minus Bandera? Although, no. Not interested. I know. Non-brothers
      2. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 21 December 2021 09: 59
        +10
        Quote: Finches
        I wonder who minus - Napoleon or Hitler?

        most likely either Genghis Khan or Karl
        1. notingem
          notingem 21 December 2021 14: 49
          0
          So Karl got off like a cheap one. On the contrary, Turkey is all inclusive. He definitely did not minus
      3. smart ass
        smart ass 21 December 2021 10: 06
        +4
        They are right! We understand only strength. Let them say thanks to the states, they have created such a system of insecurity in the world. To live with wolves ...
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 21 December 2021 10: 30
          +3
          If you do not have atomic weapons, wait for the NATO pack to visit. They will take away all oil, gas, timber, people's lives, sales markets
        2. Grits
          Grits 21 December 2021 15: 01
          +2
          Quote: Clever man
          They are right! We understand only strength.

          True, unlike the same Slovaks, we know how to use this force. Or have they forgotten how the Germans kicked them into working at factories producing products for the Wehrmacht? Or was it not force, but persuasion?
  4. mark1
    mark1 21 December 2021 08: 37
    +24
    It remains only to demonstrate this power
    We are waiting for a power striptease from Slovakia, impressed and intrigued in advance ...
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 21 December 2021 08: 50
      -17
      Putin did not accept the collapse of the Soviet Union
      but not ... he said, only rubber galoshes were made there ...
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 21 December 2021 10: 04
        -6
        Quote: Aerodrome
        Putin did not accept the collapse of the Soviet Union
        but not ... he said, only rubber galoshes were made there ...

        you throw cons to Putin ??? wassat
        1. Timon2155
          Timon2155 21 December 2021 20: 05
          +2
          One barked, taking the words about galoshes out of context, the second supported, both barked. Everyone is already aware of this video, the meaning there was completely different.
      2. smart ass
        smart ass 21 December 2021 10: 31
        +10
        Well this is how many galoshes had to be done so that the economy in second place in the world was
        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 21 December 2021 11: 24
          -3
          Quote: Clever man
          Well this is how many galoshes had to be done so that the economy in second place in the world was

          This question is for Putin.
        2. Arpad
          Arpad 21 December 2021 14: 30
          -1
          Quote: Clever man
          Well this is how many galoshes had to be done so that the economy in second place in the world was

          A lot of
  5. Pereira
    Pereira 21 December 2021 08: 37
    +29
    Slovakia is a free country and has every right to accept Poplars and Yarsi on its territory along with Western Europe.
    1. petrakimov
      petrakimov 23 December 2021 05: 18
      0
      Incomplete complete set. Something tells me that most likely the components of the missile warhead.
  6. Terenin
    Terenin 21 December 2021 08: 38
    +24
    In the press of Slovakia: Russia understands only strength

    To be honest, no one takes you into account in the Russia-US dialogue at all.
    1. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 21 December 2021 14: 59
      +4
      In general, no one has ever taken them into account and will not take them into account.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 21 December 2021 16: 53
        +1
        Quote: Incvizitor
        In general, no one has ever taken them into account and will not take them into account.

        Right now, someone turned blue with anger winked
  7. Yurahip
    Yurahip 21 December 2021 08: 39
    +21
    These Salovaks should be reminded of their role in WW2 with whom they were and on whose territory they fought.
    1. Arpad
      Arpad 21 December 2021 14: 35
      -13
      Quote: Jurachip
      These Salovaks should be reminded of their role in WW2 with whom they were and on whose territory they fought.

      And in the time of Genghis Khan, on whose side were they?
      You probably don’t understand, with all due respect, but the Second World War ended 76 years ago, for all countries this is already history, for some it’s bitter, for some not very much, and none of them wants to continue to believe in this mess, and they don’t need to.
      Someone has answered for this, someone has collected the laurels of the winners - but this is history and no one needs to fall asleep with thoughts of the Great Patriotic War and get up with them.
      Sons do not answer for their fathers, we must go forward and develop, and not dance on bones.
      To the modern generation on the drum of the Second World War who and how, they have their own problems that need to be solved.
      Enough already dancing with tambourines to arrange.
      1. notingem
        notingem 21 December 2021 15: 00
        +4
        They were with Hitler. With Hitler. And there is no need to spit on history here. Sons are responsible for their fathers by their actions.
        1. Arpad
          Arpad 21 December 2021 15: 14
          -9
          Quote: notingem
          They were with Hitler. With Hitler. And there is no need to spit on history here. Sons are responsible for their fathers by their actions.

          What's the problem? After all, they are not with Hitler, he is gone, and the United States, by the way, fought the same.
          From what you decided that all who are somehow against you are necessarily fascists, Nazis or Bandera.
          You are far from soft fluffy mini Torch and salt of the Earth.
          You have to be more modest, you look and people will reach out to you
          1. Mikhalych 70
            Mikhalych 70 21 December 2021 19: 37
            0
            They reach for the feeder. Or a nipple. Or tit. Russia (s) are tired of feeding ungrateful mongrels, monkeys and hell for free. Either to the fact that it is not a boob, but in tune, and below the belt, or look for yourself another wet nurse. But, the one behind the puddle is not a nurse for sure. Think while you have been given time.
          2. Roman_vh
            Roman_vh 22 December 2021 00: 31
            -1
            Everyone knows for the salt. She is alone on this planet. And this is not sodium chloride. And everyone is drawn to her. Especially the neighbors simita.
          3. notingem
            notingem 22 December 2021 16: 23
            0
            But you are soft brown and smelly and reach for the adolph case
      2. Roman_vh
        Roman_vh 22 December 2021 00: 29
        +1
        So tell this to your fellow citizens. They continue to dance with the Holocaust. Not?
      3. Bolkonsky
        Bolkonsky 22 December 2021 22: 23
        0
        The past must not be forgotten, memory must be honored, but one must not live in the past either. Who lives in the past will have no future. I partially agree with your thought
    2. Barberry25
      Barberry25 21 December 2021 16: 08
      +2
      do you think they will believe? they gladly believe in fairy tales about their hard struggle against Nazism and then against the evil red Ivans ...
  8. sergey_taf
    sergey_taf 21 December 2021 08: 39
    +15
    For once, a prostitute decided for herself who would "dance her?"
    1. notingem
      notingem 21 December 2021 15: 03
      0
      But there are no volunteers, so I decided to grab
  9. alex neym_2
    alex neym_2 21 December 2021 08: 40
    +2
    The Slovaks have already decided to take forceful actions, that is, to fight! You have to curry favor with the owner.
  10. swnvaleria
    swnvaleria 21 December 2021 08: 40
    +8
    Uncle Sam again began to step on the tail of the mice so that they would begin to squeak from under the plinth, well, before they squeak.
  11. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 21 December 2021 08: 41
    +7
    Oh, is there still Slovakia?
    And I thought that she was lost in the vastness of Europe and after the separation from the Czech Republic, her dogs were taken away.
    Notably licked the States.
    Yes, Russia does not need you, just don’t bother us to live.
    1. Grits
      Grits 21 December 2021 15: 04
      +1
      Quote: 75Sergey
      Oh, is there still Slovakia?
      And I thought that she was lost in the vastness of Europe and after the separation from the Czech Republic, her dogs were taken away.

      Yes, and they remember about her only when there is a hockey championship.
  12. Invoce
    Invoce 21 December 2021 08: 41
    +2
    In fact, Putin is encroaching on the sovereignty of the countries of Eastern Europe, the author of the article for the Slovak edition of Aktuality claims.

    In fact, Russia warns and calls on the US and the EU not to impose (not buy local elites) their ideas about the "correct course" and "democratic" values ​​on the countries surrounding Russia ... There is no sovereignty there and has not existed for a long time. Amerov protectorate, only
  13. KCA
    KCA 21 December 2021 08: 42
    +9
    Is it not enough for you, litter, during the Great Patriotic War, cuffs were slapped? The most incapacitated parts of the Axis were, let's add, conductors of power ...
    1. Split
      Split 21 December 2021 09: 23
      -1
      Well, Czechoslovakia delivered a significant number of tanks to the Wehrmacht nevertheless recourse
      1. KCA
        KCA 21 December 2021 09: 37
        +10
        During WWII, the Czech Republic and Slovakia were different states, Slovakia became a satellite of Germany, and the Czech Republic was occupied, which did not prevent the Czechs from going to work every day and forging the power of the Reich, as a protest, they pinned a pin from INSIDE the lapel of their jacket, well, like, we protest, but so that no one sees, although not everyone, there were patriots and underground fighters there, technicians poured a lot of sand into bearings and gas tanks
        1. serg.shishkov2015
          serg.shishkov2015 21 December 2021 10: 48
          +1
          There was a case! Structurally remarkable Tatras-111 they * did * so that the Wehrmacht refused to accept them, much that happened! But there was something else, and we need to remember both sides of this medal!
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 21 December 2021 10: 43
      +4
      Quote: KCA
      The most incapacitated parts of the Axis were

      well, it’s in vain that you were still Romanians
      1. KCA
        KCA 21 December 2021 10: 52
        0
        At least the Romanians had intelligence and counterintelligence in the rear, but the same whores, like the Union began to bend, that the Slovaks, that the Romanians quickly changed their shoes and began to fight with Hitler, and the Finns, too, and it’s a pity, the Karelian-Finnish ASSR would have been not bad, especially since they are used to living under Russia
      2. serg.shishkov2015
        serg.shishkov2015 21 December 2021 11: 58
        -1
        The Romanians fought very well in their own theater of operations! in 1941 against the Danube Flotilla! it is interestingly written about this in the book by Yunovidov * Landings of the 41st year *, and in our snows both Romanians and Italians were not particularly heroic
      3. Grits
        Grits 21 December 2021 15: 05
        0
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        well, it’s in vain that you were still Romanians

        And the Italians were forgotten. Frozen, poor things ...
  14. 203-K
    203-K 21 December 2021 08: 44
    +6
    ... In the press of Slovakia: Russia understands only strength
    Russia is power itself, which is why it can only talk with those who have such power, that is, the United States. Well, Russia has long given a damn about different Slovakia - it's a pity that they can't put up with it.
    1. Split
      Split 21 December 2021 09: 38
      0
      Well yes, the dogs are barking - the caravan is coming good
  15. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 21 December 2021 08: 44
    +7
    The author either does not know, or has forgotten the fate of Hitler's ally Slovakia; they had a division on the Eastern Front called "Rikhla" (fast), so their own soldiers renamed it "Rhla to the house" - they were too quick to skimp ... The expert from the anus haunted by the ghosts of the past !!!
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 21 December 2021 08: 46
    0
    Washington, where they have already stated that they will make a decision only after consultations with their Eastern European partners.

    Washington's partners - Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, or is it Germany, France (for example)?
  17. Sergei Zabelin
    Sergei Zabelin 21 December 2021 08: 47
    +1
    Slovaks think that the war will be somewhere far away, on the eastern front, but in modern war there is no rear
    Let's see what they sing when they find themselves in the Middle Ages
  18. sleeve
    sleeve 21 December 2021 08: 48
    0
    What Putin thinks about is not about the salaries of Slovak journalists. But. It is worthwhile to understand and listen to the same Putin for a long time. He certainly did not accept, but he will not restore anything either. The shaky platform created in the USSR collapsed with a crash at the first opportunity. But at the same time, the subsidized economy collapsed, in which the "colonies under occupation" pulled both cheeks and nagged. And they pulled so much and with impunity that they believed in their "national wealth". The USSR will not exist. Empire? Yes. She didn't go anywhere. What is predetermined for the "neighbors"? Independence and ... neutrality. Will the states around and further "fall apart"? Maybe. In this matter, Kazakhstan is unlucky. He will have to "guess" the correct vector. He's only one. In general, everything will be the same as it is now. Will Russia fight for "satellites in Europe"? Yes, not in life. Such stones on the legs should be hanging on the EU. Baltics? Let's see in the future. They push themselves so confidently that it's just interesting, but according to the same principle, no one wants them back.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 21 December 2021 09: 07
      +4
      the platform was not shaky, but tough, but betrayal and not such fortresses were crumbling.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 21 December 2021 09: 28
        +7
        Quote: Aerodrome
        the platform was not shaky, but tough, but betrayal and not such fortresses were crumbling.

        Yes, the Sokurovites, who are ready to hand out Russia in parts, feel at ease.
      2. sleeve
        sleeve 21 December 2021 10: 13
        0
        "Union republics" and national communist parties? It seems that without the NKVD and the GULAG, such a structure could not be friends for a long time. Even the empire collapsed according to the class principle, and not along the borders. They cracked last. Well, except for Ukraine, those are always the chosen ones). In general, it did not work out steadily in relation to geopolitical winds. Nationalism defeated ideology in one go. The simple blood solution may not always be used.
    2. tatra
      tatra 21 December 2021 10: 19
      +5
      Well, for some reason, before the "Liberator" of the enemies of the USSR on the territory of the USSR and in Eastern Europe - Gorbachev, nothing collapsed.
      1. sleeve
        sleeve 21 December 2021 10: 56
        0
        Is it true why? It was necessary to loosen the nuts and everything fell out. That is, tight nuts are all the fasteners? And what kind of system is it that not only released the traitor to the top, but also allowed the country to be destroyed practically alone? After all, Gorbachev did not consult with anyone; he made decisions alone. And when he got tired of breaking up the USSR, he called Yeltsin. I'm not confusing anything, am I? He mesmerized everyone, smothered in 4 years. And in 1989 it was already too late. It looks like he also conducted Sumgait, and Alma-Ata, and the same in the Fergana Valley ... But okay. Another bad thing, there was already a period when mistakes, carelessness and laziness were covered up with betrayal. Then they only managed to wash the bloody yushka for two years, but again not those who caught the "traitors". The same traitors hindered industrialization in the early 30s. In short, it was all already. Such a USSR is not needed. An empire is needed, a strong predatory, in which to live peacefully and freely, without sacrificing something for the sake of something (usually not your own). And the USSR lost and became a thing of the past. And this is an indicator. You cannot deceive the expectations of people for a long time and steal a dream from them, otherwise the most base and ridiculous betrayal will succeed ...
  19. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 21 December 2021 08: 58
    +4
    And Putin, with his demands for guarantees interferes with the self-determination of sovereign states, who have the right to decide for themselves whose troops to deploy on their territory.

    Self-determination? Yes, you start barking towards Russia only on the whistle ...
    To hell with you. fool Are you ready to deploy troops that threaten Russian sovereignty on your territory? Get ready in case of something "to die without having time to repent" ... yes
    1. Professor
      Professor 21 December 2021 09: 21
      -12
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Get ready in case of something "to die without having time to repent" ...

      Do not forget to remove the sofa from the parking brake, dear man.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 21 December 2021 11: 15
        +1

        Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
        Today, 09: 21
        NEW

        -8
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Get ready in case of something "to die without having time to repent" ...

        Do not forget to remove the sofa from the parking brake, dear man.
        You should have put your sofa on the handbrake, it won't be an hour to go somewhere else! laughing you are not nice, not our man! tongue
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 21 December 2021 11: 31
          +3
          Quote: aszzz888
          you are not nice, not our man!

          Yes, the professor has just returned from the exercises, he was taking off the sofa from the parking brake, the fighting spirit has not yet blown out. wassat
        2. Grits
          Grits 21 December 2021 15: 10
          +1
          Quote: aszzz888
          You would put your sofa on the handbrake, it won't be an hour to go somewhere else

          Duc, where can he go then? In his homeland, he gave a little gas - the land ran out.
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 21 December 2021 12: 30
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        Do not forget to remove the sofa from the parking brake, dear man.

        You are the same professor as he is an assistant professor. But I will repeat to you a quote from someone who allows you to show off on the sly:
        1. Professor
          Professor 21 December 2021 16: 51
          -1
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Quote: Professor
          Do not forget to remove the sofa from the parking brake, dear man.

          You are the same professor as he is an assistant professor. But I will repeat to you a quote from someone who allows you to show off on the sly:

          Everything is easier, my dear people. Mass graves are being prepared for you, not paradise.

          https://docs.cntd.ru/document/1200180859
          URGENT burial of corpses in war and peacetime
          Date introduced 2022-02-01

          A standard mass grave is designed for 100 people. It is a moat 20 meters long, three meters wide and 2,3 meters deep. It was proposed to lay the bodies in two layers, and to use special equipment for digging and falling asleep.
          1. Roman_vh
            Roman_vh 22 December 2021 00: 42
            0
            I'm afraid that with such a pile of foxes of your nationality (don't get it wrong), even a mass grave may not be enough. There are a lot of "friendly" peoples around you.
  20. ioan-e
    ioan-e 21 December 2021 08: 59
    +6
    Slovakia will not go under the Russian yoke, having got rid of it once and for all after the collapse of the USSR

    Who will ask you? That's why the limitrophe is a limitrophe to "voluntarily" be under the boot of a stronger state!
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 21 December 2021 10: 24
      0
      Quote: ioan-e
      Who will ask you? That's why the limitrophe is a limitrophe to "voluntarily" be under the boot of a stronger state!

      neither the Czech Republic nor Slovakia have ever been limitrophes.
      terms like precision.
      1. ioan-e
        ioan-e 21 December 2021 10: 38
        +1
        Quote: Flood
        Quote: ioan-e
        Who will ask you? That's why the limitrophe is a limitrophe to "voluntarily" be under the boot of a stronger state!

        neither the Czech Republic nor Slovakia have ever been limitrophes.
        terms like precision.

        What is the inaccuracy?

        Initially, the word limitrophe denoted the border area of ​​the Roman Empire, which was supposed to contain special units of the imperial troops - the limitans - standing on its territory.

        Slovakia is located on the eastern border of NATO and the European Union, borders with Ukraine, it is the EU and NATO limitrophe!
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 21 December 2021 10: 51
          -1
          Quote: ioan-e
          What is the inaccuracy?

          LIMITRO'F [latin. limitrophus - borderline]
          The name of the states that emerged after the October Socialist Revolution on the outskirts of the former Russian Empire: Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, and Finland.

          Source: "Explanatory Dictionary of the Russian Language" edited by D. N. Ushakov
        2. Flooding
          Flooding 21 December 2021 11: 21
          0
          Quote: ioan-e
          Slovakia is located on the eastern border of NATO and the European Union, borders with Ukraine, it is the EU and NATO limitrophe!

          This is your own expanded interpretation of the term.
          From which it follows that any border state of any military or economic bloc can be called a limitrophe.
          That is, according to your logic, Belarus and Kyrgyzstan are the limitrophes.

          That's why I wrote that terms love precision. And not free interpretations.
          And they must be applied in the originally assigned semantic range.
          1. ioan-e
            ioan-e 21 December 2021 11: 46
            +2
            Quote: Flood
            Quote: ioan-e
            Slovakia is located on the eastern border of NATO and the European Union, borders with Ukraine, it is the EU and NATO limitrophe!

            This is your own expanded interpretation of the term.
            From which it follows that any border state of any military or economic bloc can be called a limitrophe.
            That is, according to your logic, Belarus and Kyrgyzstan are the limitrophes.

            That's why I wrote that terms love precision. And not free interpretations.
            And they must be applied in the originally assigned semantic range.


            Regarding the original interpretation of the word limitrophe, see my post above, and about Belarus, Kyrgyzstan - yes, it’s the limitrophes (no matter how good I would not relate to Belarus, but without Russia it is nothing)! To what extent are Belarus and Kyrgyzstan dependent on the Russian economy? Just as much as Slovakia depends on the EU economy - shut off the Russian sales market and raise energy prices to world prices and Belarus is not! I am generally silent about Kyrgyzstan with its economy of 7,9 billion dollars and a population of 6,6 million people. Kyrgyzstan is initially doomed to be a conductor of the will of foreign states, and much weaker than the Russian Federation, it is already beginning to dance to the tune of Kazakhstan and Turkey. The happiness of Belarusians lies in the fact that we, Russians, consider them brothers. I have not seen a single person in my circle who would be indignant at the fact that Belarus was supplied with weapons and energy resources at internal Russian prices. Therefore, I sincerely believe that Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians are one great divided people who should live in one state!
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 21 December 2021 14: 07
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              Quote: ioan-e
              For the original interpretation of the word limitrophe, see my post above.

              in relation to the border areas of the united Roman Empire
              not to individual states of any union
              Quote: ioan-e
              I sincerely believe that Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians are one great divided people who should live in one state

              you have deviated so far from the original topic that you have moved on to common truths that cannot be doubted

              all the best
              1. ioan-e
                ioan-e 21 December 2021 16: 35
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                Yes, whatever you like, but I presented my arguments about Belarus and Kyrgyzstan!

                The revival of the term "limitrophe" in the 1990s is associated primarily with the name of the philosopher, orientalist and political scientist V.L. Tsymbursky. The term in the interpretation of Tsymbursky entered the modern scientific circulation.
                However, the use of the concept of "limitrophes" - geopolitically unstable spaces between civilizational platforms (Tsymbursky, 1997) - will be very useful for the purposes of our discussion..
                1. Flooding
                  Flooding 21 December 2021 17: 25
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                  Quote: ioan-e
                  Yes, whatever you like, but I presented my arguments about Belarus and Kyrgyzstan!

                  Your arguments have nothing to do with the understanding of the limitrophic territory adopted in late ancient Rome.
                  I emphasize once again - this is your interpretation.
                  It may seem very significant to you. Someone might even share it.
                  But this is not the generally accepted understanding of the term.
                  But it was to him that you appealed.
                  The reference to Tsymbursky is all the more inappropriate. Between him and ancient Rome. limitrophus one and a half millennia.
                  1. ioan-e
                    ioan-e 22 December 2021 09: 26
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                    Yes, the concept of "limitrophe" has changed a long time ago, and you, as an Old Believer, all hold on to two fingers!

                    It seems to us that the content of this concept at the beginning of the XXI century. changed (expanded) because:
                    1) the creation and use of limitrophes at the turn of the XX-XXI centuries. has become a purposefully applied geopolitical technology, which is used not only by powerful states, but also by actors of a non-state nature;
                    2) back in the XX century. there was an expansion of ideas about geopolitical space: the typology of geopolitical spaces included economic (in connection with which such a section of geopolitical science as geoeconomics arose), information-cybernetic and information-ideological (studied by geoinformatics and geocultural studies, respectively) spaces;
                    3) the so-called “new actors”, mostly non-governmental in their characteristics, have been added to the geopolitical actors of the state, interstate and supra-state nature.
                    In our opinion, the limitrophe in the modern geopolitical era is not just a set of border states geographically adjacent to a certain power, but a set of states and non-state actors, whose spaces are firmly controlled by a powerful state, which in this case acts as a geopolitical tutor. (Tutor - English tutor - one who teaches, and also leads the classes, teaches.) At the same time, the limitrophes line up not only in the geographical, but also in the economic and informational-ideological (cultural) space. An element of the limitrophe can be an actor of a state or non-state nature, geographically distant from the geopolitical tutor, but included in the economic and informational-ideological space of the tutor and under his political control. Such limitrophic elements, geographically distant from their tutors, in the second half of the XX century. were, for example, Cuba - for the USSR and South Vietnam - for the United States. Since the information revolution in the Postmodern society changes the hierarchy of geopolitical spaces and the information and ideological space comes to the fore, the limitrophes can acquire an ideological or economic nature and generally not correlate with the possibilities of geographical control on the part of a tutor. For example, NAFTA is the limitrophe of the United States in the economic space of America, and the former socialist camp, after the destruction of the ideological limitrophe of the USSR, moved into the ideological space of liberal democracies, retaining its limitrophic characteristics - SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SLOVAKIA.

                    KOMLEVA Natalya Aleksandrovna - Doctor of Political Sciences, Professor, Head of the Department of Theory and History of Political Science, Ural State University named after V.I. A.M. Gorky
                    1. Flooding
                      Flooding 22 December 2021 09: 33
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                      Quote: ioan-e
                      Yes, the concept of "limitrophe" has changed a long time ago, and you, as an Old Believer, all hold on to two fingers!

                      After all, it was you who cited the terminology of one and a half thousand years of ancient Roman prescription as an explanation of your words.
                      not me.
                      and now you call me an Old Believer.

                      in any case, I am glad that in your search for new explanations, you have discovered the modern understanding and use of this term.

                      the only bad thing is that you are trying to pass off your maneuvers as an attempt to reason with your opponent.
                      1. ioan-e
                        ioan-e 22 December 2021 09: 53
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                        After all, it was you who cited the terminology of one and a half thousand years of ancient Roman prescription as an explanation of your words.

                        I cited her as an example in the sense that Slovakia, as the outskirts of the European Union with certain responsibilities, fits the concept of a limitrophe even in ancient Roman terminology, no more!
                        And you foaming at your mouth argued that if it was not included in the countries that broke away from the Russian Empire, then it cannot be called that! Ay-yay-yay and all that!
                        Yulite and maneuver just you!
                        You are an old believer and a retrograde, that's all!
                      2. Flooding
                        Flooding 22 December 2021 10: 00
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                        Quote: ioan-e
                        You foaming at your mouth argued that if it was not included in the countries that broke away from the Russian Empire, then it should not be called that! Ay-yay-yay and all that!
                        Yulite and maneuver just you!
                        You are an old believer and a retrograde, that's all

                        If you had quoted Komleva yesterday instead of referring to Ancient Rome, I would admit that you are right.
                        The term really turned out to be very tenacious and is experiencing another semantic rebirth.
                        Now I can only admit one thing - that you have found more convincing arguments in a day. But after the fact.
                        goodbye heathen
                      3. ioan-e
                        ioan-e 22 December 2021 11: 11
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                        Quote: Flood
                        If you had quoted Komleva yesterday instead of referring to Ancient Rome, I would admit that you are right

                        Did it ever occur to you that yesterday I simply did not have time to return to the dialogue and that I read your message today?

                        goodbye heathen

                        Mutually! hi
  21. Valerikk
    Valerikk 21 December 2021 09: 07
    +5
    In the press of Slovakia: Russia understands only strength

    Only the strong can claim that. What does Slovakia have to do with it?
  22. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 21 December 2021 09: 08
    +5
    How did these kabysdokhs get out with their yapping, really want the gas to start working there in frosty conditions, that would really howl, save Russia ..
    1. ioan-e
      ioan-e 21 December 2021 10: 26
      +1
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      How did these kabysdokhs get out with their yapping, really want the gas to start working there in frosty conditions, that would really howl, save Russia ..

      And Russia in response - we do not serve on Fridays, bring down to the hegemon!
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 21 December 2021 15: 04
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      I only feel disgust for such, they will finish off the FSH, these unfinished ones of easy behavior will either roll under the Russian Federation or under China.
  23. Mikhail Mikhail
    Mikhail Mikhail 21 December 2021 09: 09
    +3
    Who is this anyway? Who cares about these opinions.
  24. akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 21 December 2021 09: 14
    +3
    The Matrassan Six will not return under the Russian yoke!
    To swing her under the American yoke is "much freer!" Miserable Euroshalds have completely lost the concept of real freedom over the centuries of servile existence under the Ottomans, Austro-Hungarians and other "despots". Now the most "free" owner lives overseas
  25. K-50
    K-50 21 December 2021 09: 20
    +1
    In the press of Slovakia: Russia understands only strength

    Didn't you decide to demonstrate it? belay wassat
    Will the pants burst after the show? laughing
  26. Split
    Split 21 December 2021 09: 26
    +1
    The USSR spent a huge percentage of GDP on the maintenance of these parasites ... but let them be kept by Nat
  27. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 21 December 2021 09: 27
    0
    More and more often in the news there are photos of military groups from different countries of the Tribaltic and other Eastern Europeans and a formidable slogan: Position of strength!
    Well, they showed people in uniform, well, they showed some trunks behind them, so what?
    Show your butt to nuclear ash and smoky rowing. the implementation of the position of strength in relation to Russia is fraught with the end of everything!
  28. nikvic46
    nikvic46 21 December 2021 09: 28
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    And how do the Slovaks understand by the provision of force on Russia? Like hockey, where two teams play and the rest are watching. If the worst happens, then everyone will have to drink the cup of war.
  29. Moonsund
    Moonsund 21 December 2021 09: 28
    +2
    Who is it here! Slovakia? Will apply forceful methods? 2,6 million peasants? The application has not grown, sit quietly, you may not be noticed
  30. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 21 December 2021 09: 31
    +9
    sovereignty of Eastern European countries

  31. zar-valerij
    zar-valerij 21 December 2021 09: 34
    -1
    Are you ready to fight without diapers?
  32. Hagen
    Hagen 21 December 2021 09: 36
    +2
    Some unknown author said something there .... Who is this Russophobe? What is its weight in the media? Does it make sense to discuss some unintelligible passers-by?
  33. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 21 December 2021 09: 39
    +1
    That is, the deception suddenly stopped working. What a pity!)
  34. Grossvater
    Grossvater 21 December 2021 09: 48
    +1
    Well. During the Hitlerite EU, Slovakia was at war with the USSR. Then, however, she successfully snapped, but the fact is the fact: Slovakia is an ally of Nazi Germany.
  35. V1er
    V1er 21 December 2021 10: 05
    +1
    In the press of Slovakia: Russia understands only strength

    And they only understand the pain of the campaign. After all, it is to this tragedy that their countries and people are leading. To have a war.
  36. Hort
    Hort 21 December 2021 10: 07
    +2
    self-determination of sovereign states, which have the right to decide for themselves whose troops to station on their territory.
    I wonder if he himself understands how funny it sounds?

    The draft agreement proposed by our Foreign Ministry is, perhaps, for the first time since Primakov's turn of the plane in 1999, something sensible and thought out from diplomatic moves. The plug in the agreement for amers is simply gorgeous
  37. tatra
    tatra 21 December 2021 10: 14
    +7
    Slovakia will not go under the Russian yoke, having got rid of it once and for all after the collapse of the USSR

    Another proof that anti-Sovietism is always equal to Russophobia.
  38. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 21 December 2021 10: 27
    +1
    Slovakia will not go under the Russian yoke, having got rid of it once and for all

    ***
    "... According to my inner conviction, the most complete and insurmountable - Russia will not, and never have had, such haters, envious people, slanderers and even obvious enemies, like all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe will agree to recognize them as released!
    ---
    After liberation, they will begin their new life, I repeat, precisely by asking for themselves from Europe, England and Germany, for example, a guarantee and protection of their freedom, and even though Russia will be included in the concert of the European powers, but they are in protection from Russia and will do it ... "
    ---
    F.M. Dostoevsky
    ***
  39. fuel oil
    fuel oil 21 December 2021 10: 27
    +2
    You only understand stars.
  40. carpenter
    carpenter 21 December 2021 10: 29
    +3
    The Slovaks have forgotten that already on June 23, 1941, the Slovak soldiers accepted the baptism of fire against the USSR army. And this battle was one of the few at the beginning of the war, where the German units were devastatingly lost.
    On June 23, the Ambassador of Slovakia to the USSR Julian Shimko officially announced the USSR People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs V. Molotov a note on the severance of diplomatic relations and on the declaration of war on the USSR.
    Probably the memory has become short: again they are waiting for the next "headwash".
  41. sgr291158
    sgr291158 21 December 2021 10: 32
    +2
    Well, these are where they climb. If you want to show strength, show it. That only remains from you.
  42. rocket757
    rocket757 21 December 2021 10: 33
    +1
    In the press of Slovakia: Russia understands only strength
    ... Well, what does such an article show with them? How do we react to what is presented to us?
    In general, everything is very similar ...
    The ruling classes of countries, as always, are busy with quarreling the peoples, and then successfully robbing them.
    The exploiters have learned to do it efficiently ...
    War psychosis, and then the militarization of the entire life of countries ... businessmen who profit from military products rub their hands in anticipation.
  43. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 21 December 2021 10: 42
    +2
    And Putin, with his demands for guarantees, intervenes in the self-determination of sovereign states, which have the right to decide for themselves whose troops to deploy on their territory.
    and why, at 38, they put their tongue in ..., and up to 45 they gladly riveted tanks to the Nazis
  44. uralant
    uralant 21 December 2021 10: 53
    +1
    Quote: Clever man
    Well this is how many galoshes had to be done so that the economy in second place in the world was

    And still use these galoshes!
  45. fif21
    fif21 21 December 2021 10: 57
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    Slovaks also understand only strength. And they change partners based on who is stronger. The USA will collapse and the songs will be different laughing
  46. uralant
    uralant 21 December 2021 11: 02
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    Quote: hort
    The draft agreement proposed by our Foreign Ministry is, perhaps, for the first time since Primakov's turn of the plane in 1999, something sensible and thought out from diplomatic moves. The plug in the agreement for amers is simply gorgeous

    And you? Have you forgotten that the USA are true gentlemen? The masters of their word, regardless of what is said or written, play with speckled cards. They have any forks on the drum. They play by the rules set by themselves and it doesn't matter that the rules change when they need it.
  47. GAndr
    GAndr 21 December 2021 12: 12
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    Iiii how is Slovakia going to talk with Russia from a position of strength? Well, it's technically interesting to look at this.
  48. Fitter65
    Fitter65 21 December 2021 12: 17
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    Russia only understands strength. It remains only to demonstrate this power, as they write in the Slovak press.
    Approximately as the Slovaks demonstrated from 1941 to 1945 in cooperation with Nazi Germany that it turned out to be partially forgotten, well, it happens that senile sclerosis after 30 years of self-righteousness is quite normal.
  49. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 21 December 2021 12: 27
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    Fools, Russia crushes force by force, and only understands honest agreements.
    Are the Slovaks defending the right of the colonies themselves to decide on the deployment of colonial troops there?
  50. ugol2
    ugol2 21 December 2021 12: 32
    +8
    who have the right to decide for themselves whose troops to deploy on their territory.

    Have you tried to live without foreign troops on your territory?