General Dynamics received a contract to produce a new batch of M1A2 Abrams tanks for the US Army

The US Army will soon be replenished with new tanks M1A2 Abrams, the contract for the production of the next batch of tanks was received by the American company General Dynamics Land Systems Inc. (GDLS), part of the global aerospace and defense corporation General Dynamics.

According to the Defense Blog, the US Army contract command has awarded the company a contract to "design, develop and manufacture" the M1A2 Abrams tanks. The parameters of the contract were not disclosed, the amount of the agreement is $ 93 million. The publication states that General Dynamics Land Systems Inc. received a contract for the production of the "legendary" Abrams tanks.

Note that the company is currently fulfilling a major contract with the US Department of Defense for the serial modernization of M1A1 Abrams tanks from storage to the level of Abrams M1A2 SEP v.3 (M1A2C). The agreement worth $ 4,62 billion was signed on December 18, 2020 and is calculated until June 17, 2028. The number of tanks upgraded under the contract has not been reported. At the same time, Honeywell was awarded a $ 1,105 billion contract for the production and technical support of AGT1500 gas turbine tank engines.

Work on the modernization of tanks is carried out at three enterprises: the only US government-owned Joint Systems Manufacturing Center (JSMC) tank plant in Ohio, but actually operated by General Dynamics, as well as two of the company's plants in Pennsylvania and Florida. Apparently, the production of new tanks will be carried out at one of these factories.

To date, the US Army receives tanks of the latest modification M1A2 SEP V3 (M1A2C), but a new package for upgrading tanks to the M1A2 SEP V4 level is already being developed.

Comments

[Kesha1980]

.The parameters of the contract are not disclosed, the amount of the agreement is 93 million dollars.

Crazy loot). Even not so, in my opinion.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Kesha1980

Crazy loot). Even not so, in my opinion.

Yes, it seems, taking into account this:
... contract for "design, development and manufacture" ...
If we put it aside for design and development, then one or two experimental ones are just enough for the production.

[Kesha1980]

And I'm talking about the same. It is also necessary to include in the costs "lubrication" of the Congress lobby and the generals.

[NDR-791]

Yes, they have already lubricated, since they gave money So the lack of technology is terrible Afghan, Poland, Tribaltia. Where to dial at all ???

[YOUR]

There below it is written only the modernization of 4,62 billion dollars. This is not counting the engines - 1,105 billion. That is. not for the development of something new there, but for the modernization in 2020, 5.725 billion dollars were allocated.

[Real Pilot]

Woke up!
It was just that the termination of production was quite illogical, the factories were closed and partially preserved. And combat vehicles were out of action ... And the allies want to buy a promoted product, the American military-industrial complex loves money!

Again, there are still hulls, but their modernization potential is approaching the limit, soon these elephants will weigh 70 tons. From scratch, you can more flexibly modify the design, immediately take into account a number of past shortcomings that added cost and weight. Perhaps an analogue of the automatic loader should be foreseen - who knows ...
Here they stuttered about high-explosive and new cumulative projectiles in the ammunition rack, and for them it is desirable to correct the fighting compartment, the knockout panels do not help from their detonation (not BOPS, however), according to some sources.

And 93 million is so far to "talk", to assess the situation and preliminary preparation. For organizing a chain of subcontractors, digitizing drawings, etc.

[Flooding]

Quote: Kesha1980

Crazy loot). Even not so, in my opinion.

The article is called "General Dynamics production of Abrams tanks for a foreign customer".

[zadorin1974]

If this is a contract for NEW !!!!! Abrams, then a batch of 10 does not inspire. If this is money for the development of a new modernization of old technology, then it is normal for mattresses. Interestingly, the appraiser, taking into account the Israeli "Zherezny kulak" or is there a separate line (pocket))) passes?

[Flooding]

Quote: zadorin1974

If this is a contract for NEW !!!!! Abrams, then a batch of 10 does not inspire

above, see the screenshot from the source
production for a foreign customer

[zadorin1974]

Well, then it is clear)))) Interactive translation, two we write three in the mind.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Flood

production for a foreign customer

According to the text of the news, this is not even production, but the supply of modernized tanks: to supply upgraded M1A2 Abrams tanks.

In short, new tanks for the US Army turned into modernized tanks for a foreign customer. The difference is as between the T-90S and T-72B3.

[Flooding]

Quote: Alexey RA

According to the text of the news, this is not even production, but the supply of upgraded tanks: to supply upgraded M1A2 Abrams tanks.

noticed
but below "contract includes engineering, manufacturing, design and production"
go understand
logically, the capitalist is unlikely to allow himself to start production for the sake of several units of technology
too high costs

[rocket757]

General Dynamics received a contract to produce a new batch of M1A2 Abrams tanks for the US Army

... The question is, of course, intEsny ... are they preparing for something or are they getting something that they lack now at all?

[tralflot1832]

And what is the reason why they will make new ones. Old buildings that do not fit for modernization. Yes, the "legendary", legendary Houthis in slippers on their bare feet at once, two of them burn, just stop.

[Pankrat25]

New grenade launchers have appeared, armor for them will be modified or dynamic protection, the old one does not work as it should.

[Reserve buildbat]

Is there a DZ on the abrashkas? Except for the SEP V3 with the ram collection bags for tankers?

[spirit]

slippers on bare feet at one time, two of them harness

Well, the Houthis and Armats would have burned just as easily, with a Saudi crew) There was also an article recently about the colossal losses of the Syrians in tanks, until the tactics were worked out. in good hands and most importantly !!! with the working tactics of their use, is a formidable weapon

[tralflot1832]

I'm not even sure that the Saudis were sitting behind the levers of the abrashki, but rather someone from Africa. It's not tsarist business for the Saud to fight the Houthis.

[Bradley]

New buildings mean. Will there be a new booking package? Maybe a new gun (130 mm)?
Interesting ...
There are a lot of Abrams buildings, and since they ordered new buildings, it means they want to change something specifically.

[Diverter]

this tank has not been produced in the us for about 30 years. And here is the contract for the PRODUCTION OF NEW TANKS !!! And the amount is only 93 million. The price of a tank is about 6 million. So you ordered a battalion of new tanks? And a denyuzhku to restore the entire production? Something is muddy like that

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Saboteur

this tank has not been produced in the us for about 30 years. And here is the contract for the PRODUCTION OF NEW TANKS !!! And the amount is only 93 million. The price of a tank is about 6 million. So you ordered a battalion of new tanks? And a denyuzhku to restore the entire production? Something is muddy like that

They have thousands of tanks in storage, so they will be upgraded, increase the armor on the tower, change all internal equipment, sights, etc.

[Diverter]

in Russian it is written PRODUCTION OF NEW or not read?

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Saboteur

in Russian it is written PRODUCTION OF NEW or not read?

The United States now does not have factories capable of producing Abrams from scratch, and you cannot restore a full assembly cycle for 93 million. Significantly larger sums are needed. Therefore, this news is rather strange.

[tralflot1832]

It is precisely to start with the rolling mill, to roll the armor. Or $ 93 million is just the beginning.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Saboteur

in Russian it is written PRODUCTION OF NEW or not read?

If you read the inscription "buffalo" on an elephant's cage, do not believe your eyes.

© Kozma Prutkov
This is the media. In our media, domestic Mi-24s after modernization are presented as "the army received new helicopters".

And then there's also translated news. About which over the hill, by the way, they write a little differently:

General Dynamics has been awarded a $ 93.5 million contract to supply upgraded M1A2 Abrams tanks to an undisclosed foreign customer.
According to the US Department of Defense, the fixed-price-incentive contract includes engineering, manufacturing, design, and production of the M1A2 Abrams to be financed using Fiscal 2019 Foreign Military Sales (FMS) funds.

That is, this is a contract for a full cycle of modernization of the M1A2 for a foreign customer, financed from the funds of the US Military Sales Program (for which the US Department of Defense is responsible in the person of the Defense Security Cooperation Agency). That is, the US Department of Defense orders and pays for weapons, but it is received by a foreign customer. This ordering scheme is used as standard for the countries participating in this program.
And so, the new "Abrams" for the US Defense Ministry turned into modernized "Abrams" for a foreign customer, ordered through a structure within the US Defense Ministry.

[Diverter]

my mother told me, son, learn the English language!

[zadorin1974]

Good. The new Abrashi's appraiser will jump out in nine lamas. This poyuzanye A1A2 under seven for Poland comes out. With the old hulls, the weight with all the pribludes exceeded 68 tons. Not that European bridges and railway platforms are not exported.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

If we compare Abrams and Armata, I’m wondering why ours made the tower lightly armored? That is, only the casing and that's it. If the KAZ does not work, then the tower will be completely disabled. There is also no dynamic defense on the tower, judging by the photographs. Yes, the tower is uninhabited, but you still need to defend it, because without a tower the tank will become useless.

[Konnick]

after all, without a tower, the tank will become useless.

Not only useless, but also blind, it is enough to hit a simple land mine. Perhaps this is one of the reasons for the delay in adopting it into service. After the parade and praise, somehow it is necessary to get out of this situation with a good face and a bad game.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

Why did ours make the tower lightly armored? That is, only the casing and that's it

Why is it just a casing?
And the filling is the same KAZ? If you make normal armor, where should you put it?
Similarly, other equipment.
The tower on Armata is just a bunch of different bells and whistles, covered with an armored casing. All this stuff, at least as reliably cover with armor, will not work, it is, in principle, external.
And the protection is there for the crew and equipment, which, according to its principle of operation, can be located inside the hull.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Why is it just a casing?
And the filling is the same KAZ? If you make normal armor, where should you put it?
Similarly, other equipment.
The tower on Armata is just a bunch of different bells and whistles, covered with an armored casing. All this stuff, at least as reliably cover with armor, will not work, it is, in principle, external.
And the protection is there for the crew and equipment, which, according to its principle of operation, can be located inside the hull.

And the fact that a large-caliber machine gun or debris from an explosion can disable the entire tower is nothing? On the same T-90 or T72B3, this, in principle, cannot happen. The tower will protect 100% from shrapnel and machine guns of all types. And here no.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

The tower from shrapnel and machine guns of all types will protect 100%

What will the tower protect in T72 and T90?
KAZ? - no, this is basically an external device,
Communication antennas - no, they can only be outside.
A grenade launcher and a machine gun? -also no.
Observation optics? - again no.
What then?
Crew, gun and ammunition?
So the crew is not there, and the ammunition and the gun can be under the second "casing", stronger than the outer one.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Jacket in stock

So the crew is not there, and the ammunition and the gun can be under the second "casing", stronger than the outer one.

The second casing, no matter how small it is, and in terms of armor penetration will clearly be inferior to conventional manned armored towers.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

in terms of armor penetration, it will clearly be inferior to conventional manned armored towers.

What are the conclusions from?

The "tower" of Armata is just a box for placing all that economy, which in classic tanks is bolted from above in the form of all kinds of "birdhouses".

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Jacket in stock

What are the conclusions from?

From the fact that the United States, on its Abrams, is still increasing the armor on the towers in order to increase the tower's resistance to BOPS and ATGMs. There is still no revolution in tank armor so that armor can be reduced, with the same armor resistance.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

The USA on their Abrams is still building up armor on the towers,

Ага.
And ours generally eliminated the tower as such.
Everything that Armata has inside the casing, Abrams has simply bolted to the outside of the tower.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Jacket in stock

And ours generally eliminated the tower as such.
Everything that Armata has inside the casing, Abrams has simply bolted to the outside of the tower.

The breech of the gun is clearly not inside the hull and on the Abrams it is much better protected. In addition, the Abrams has a coaxial machine gun with a cannon, but the Armata does not have it, only on the tower itself.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

The breech of the cannon is clearly not inside the hull and on the Abrams it is much better protected

Not a fact.
But the "birdhouses" on the tower are worse protected, and without them the tank is just a piece of iron.

[Diverter]

Until there is a revolution in the tank

you overslept her. It just happened recently. Her name is ARMATA

[Konnick]

can be located inside the case.

Can not. The heads of optical devices, a locator and KAZ sensors cannot be placed inside with such an uninhabited tower. That leaves 5mm protection, which some people pass off as stealth technology for the angular shape.

[zadorin1974]

And who showed how Armata will look in full body kit? There, on the catfish tower, incomprehensible technological niches are empty. To this day, this is not a full-fledged tank, but a test piece.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: zadorin1974

And who showed how the Armata will look in full body kit?

That's something like

https://topcor.ru/22866-bashnju-tanka-t-14-armata-pokazali-bez-zaschitnyh-kozhuhov.html

[Konnick]

incomprehensible technological niches are empty

These are shrapnel collectors in front of the sensitive sensors.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

If we compare Abrams and Armata, I’m wondering why ours made the tower lightly armored?

Because what is usually called a tower by "Armata" is a casing. The tower itself inside:

[Two]

They burn easily, but the tower does not break off. Vibrating plates save !?

[vadimtt]

Not really saving. Often breaks through the rear armor partition and the khan.
Well, the pictures with the fully "folded" tower shone several times.

[Ros 56]

And what the hell do they need, who are they going to fight with?

[Nikolay Sayenko]

changing a charging black man to a transgender than not modernization!