Lukashenko: The positive experience of the USSR will be taken into account when forming the Union State with Russia

Russia and Belarus want to create the best alliance that has ever existed on the European continent. It will combine the features of the EU and the USSR, but at the same time it will become "more advanced and stable."

This topic was touched upon in an interview with the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko to the Turkish television and radio company TRT.

The Belarusian and Russian leaders are not trying to revive the Soviet Union, but, according to Lukashenko, they will take into account the positive experience of the USSR when forming the Union State of Belarus with Russia.

After all, we came out of a single state - the Soviet Union, and we have already tried a lot there. We know what to leave us from the Soviet past, and what will not be useful to us in the future.

- said the President of Belarus.

In addition, Putin and Lukashenko will carefully study the EU system and will take on a lot from there. Of course, the mistakes and miscalculations of Brussels will be taken into account in order to prevent their repetition. At least, this is what follows from the words of the President of the Republic of Belarus.

The process of creating a new Union State, according to the Belarusian president, should not be tied to specific dates, since there is no need for haste in this matter.

The interview also covered a wide range of other topics. In particular, the conversation touched upon the problem of migrants on the border of Belarus and the EU, as well as the pressure of Western countries on Minsk.

Comments

[Flooding]

The process of creating a new Union State, according to the Belarusian president, should not be tied to specific dates, since there is no need for haste in this matter.

Maybe so.
But I would like to see the results during my lifetime.

[Egoza]

Quote: Flood

Maybe so.
But I would like to see the results during my lifetime.

More from the USSR and less from the EU

[NDR-791]

Quote: Egoza

More from the USSR and less from the EU

Unfortunately, I come to the conclusion that from the legacy of the USSR, the authorities decided to take only the planned economy and ... the vertical of power. The rest is not for us. And all sorts of payments, benefits and other "care for the population" is so that tomorrow the chair does not smoke under the ass

[Kronos]

I agree. Something has already been taken. For example, the term of office.

[Carat]

Quote: Kronos

I agree. Something has already been taken. For example with

And what does not suit you about the term of office?
Russian Empire: Tsars ruled until death or coup.
Soviet Union: General secretaries ruled until death or coup.
Or do you like the constitution that was written under the dictation of the CIA by all sorts of Chubais, Sobchaks and company?
Why should we copy America?

[Flooding]

Quote: Carat

Russian Empire: Tsars ruled until death or coup.
Soviet Union: General secretaries ruled until death or coup.
Or do you like the constitution that was written under the dictation of the CIA by all sorts of Chubais, Sobchaks and company?

serious argument
for many will sound unexpected

[Carat]

Yes, everyone knows this very well.

[Flooding]

Quote: Carat

Yes, everyone knows this very well.

it is one thing to know as a certain historical fact.
another thing is to understand the need for historical realities.

[Carat]

What choice do people have?
We have two types of opposition: systemic and non-systemic.
Systemic: the Communist Party, the Liberal Democratic Party and others in the State Duma. Do you think they need power? No. They need a feeder. And the trough that feeds them now is absolutely fine. The money goes, but you don't have to answer for anything.
Non-systemic: Gozmans, Navalny and the like: according to Sharikovski "take and divide everything." Makarevichs, Akhedzhakovs, etc .: to give a large territory of Russia to Ukraine, China, etc. and will repent before them. Also pay money.
Do ordinary people have a lot of choice?

[Flooding]

Quote: Carat

Do ordinary people have a lot of choice?

a rhetorical question
and when did you make this choice?
and what is meant by a choice?
yes, unfortunately, the people are not the master of their country
but for now we are the masters of our destiny

[Carat]

Quote: Flood

but for now we are the masters of our destiny

If only in the question: hang or get drunk.

[Flooding]

Quote: Carat

If only in the question: hang or get drunk

hang or get drunk
go to the temple or library
live in a remote village or in a crowded city
have a large family or live as a boar

[Carat]

This is not the state level, such "or" life cannot be fundamentally changed.

[Flooding]

Quote: Carat

This is not the state level, such "or" life cannot be fundamentally changed.

I wrote it clearly

Quote: Flood

yes, unfortunately, the people are not the master of their country
but for now we are the masters of our destiny

[Carat]

So I answered you very clearly.

Quote: Carat

If only in the question: hang or get drunk.

Or do you think that something depends on us?
In 91, a referendum was held, in which more than 75 percent spoke in favor of preserving the USSR. A few months later, the USSR collapsed. This is so, for reflection.
And to go to the library or to Sonya in a brothel - this is a purely personal matter.

[Carat]

Immediately, I beg your pardon, but I urgently need to go. It was nice to talk to you.

[Flooding]

Quote: Carat

It was nice to talk to you.

Mutually. All the best.

[your vsr 66-67]

I fully support the feeder! Why do they need power? They already feel good! I remembered an example on this topic. At one time he was a deputy of the district. I'm tired of this dance. And by the next elections I say to my good friend: “Let's choose you! This is the power, no one is responsible for anything, but decisions are made!

[ALARI]

you either take off the cross or put on your underpants, while we are, according to the constitution, elective democracy, the power needs to be changed through the ELECTIONS. That's when we become officially a monarchy aphids autocracy then your words will be appropriate.

[Carat]

What constitution? According to Yeltsin? Remind you who, in fact, in those years dictated laws to Russia, incl. and the Basic Law (Constitution of the Russian Federation)?
Elective democracy? It does not exist in the USA from the word at all.
And we have a different mentality.
We will not be like stupid Americans, we never will.

[ALARI]

According to the Russian Constitution, we have no other. Why is there no elective democracy in the USA, they choose from 2, we choose from 1, there is a difference? Why were stupid Americans able to force the whole world to work for themselves? And what are we then?

[Carat]

Yes, it would not have been better. Why do we need a constitution written by the CIA?
The people's constitution and the constitution imposed on the United States is there a difference?
They also have problems with democracy. There are 2 games - choose any, and they will draw the numbers of who won.
By the way, are you aware that it is impossible to create a third party in a democratic USA? Anyone who tried to do this is not a tenant in this world.

[ALARI]

It is impossible to create a second (real party) in our country without any horrors, the CEC will just notice the missing comma and will not accept the documents.

[Carat]

Come on. In the 90s, even the Party of Beer Lovers passed to the State Duma.
What has the CEC to do with it? Name a party that would suit the whole of Russia.
Putin is definitely not a sucker, trying not to associate United Russia with himself.
And you don’t understand that we simply don’t have a single real party.

[Shiden]

Now tell me where are the kings, where the general secretaries were only in the story with the prefix. England, Spain, Holland, Belgium, Norway and Sweden, here is the monarchy for several centuries, the Japanese generally have a thousand years and live normally. Genseks have survived only in the DPRK and the common people do not live there easily. In China, only Mao Tsedong on a gun carriage freed the post of other general secretaries as they themselves left The PRC did not fall apart from that.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Shiden

Here is a monarchy for several centuries Japanese generally a thousand years and live normally

Well, the Japanese Empire is not the one that was a thousand lei ago, after the Meiji revolution it is already a copy of the British one, and when Norway became a kingdom, under the kings of Swedish royal blood.
One empire is the United Kingdom, and more or less Sweden.

[Shiden]

Well, in Japan, if I'm not mistaken for half a century, or maybe more there was a shogunate and the emperor was kept purely for decoration. In some countries, such as Spain, the king was removed and the republic was proclaimed, then returned to the throne. And now look at Zimbabwe where the African freedom fighter Robert Mugabe ruled. , the beginning of his reign turned out well, and then, as they say, Ostap suffered. And now they made a semi-colony from a prosperous country.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Shiden

And now a semi-colony has been made from a prosperous country.

Whatever one may do not twiddle, who in Africa do not put, but still a colony was and will be, well, roughly like a ruin.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Carat

Or do you like the constitution that was written under the dictation of the CIA by all sorts of Chubais, Sobchaks and company?
Why should we copy America?

Everything where America has climbed, is designed to destroy the country, the Russian people and Orthodoxy, fragmentation of the territory into small "principalities". The Anglo-Saxon formula is Divide and Conquer.

[Essex62]

The planned economy, classical, as in the USSR, automatically revives all the goodies for the population. Because it is focused not on making a profit, but on creating a sufficient volume of consumer goods for all citizens of the country. And the money in it is only a means of exchange for them. Including do not even dream of recreating PE in the capitalist RF. The social and political system must first be changed.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Essex62

The social and political system must first be changed.

Change, do not change, and the USSR will never exist, just as it could not have been after 1917 of the Russian Empire. Something will happen, but completely different (Dialectics).

[Essex62]

And it's good that it is different. That USSR became wrong. Too much has been lost, above all in the psychology of people. From that and the ease with which the counter coup carried out.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Essex62

Too much has been lost, above all in the psychology of people. From that and the ease with which the counter coup carried out.

That's right, I am of the same opinion.
I remember my parents and all my great relatives of the 50s and 60s, and myself and my peers, and then there is nothing to say. Everything should change, and preferably in a good way.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Egoza

More from the USSR and less from the EU

Education, utilities and airfare from the USSR, and salaries from the EU. And then let them rule at least forever, together or in turn.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Polite Elk

Education, utilities and airfare from the USSR, and salaries from the EU.

And the quality of sausage and vodka from the USSR.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: tihonmarine

And the quality of sausage and vodka from the USSR.

This is the first thing!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Polite Elk

This is the first thing!

Fu, I felt relieved from the bottom of my heart, otherwise I thought I had written the wrong thing.

[Terenin]

Quote: Flood

The process of creating a new Union State, according to the Belarusian president, should not be tied to specific dates, since there is no need for haste in this matter.

Maybe so.
But I would like to see the results during my lifetime.

Lukashenko is going to Russia before the end of the year.
Every day he hides the electorate for the recognition of Crimea, however, Crimea has not been recognized.
Well, this is understandable, you admit that's all, no one else will give money, and promises can be given out for a long time.
Now, if they set a condition for him, first recognition, and then you can come ...
Alas, nothing like this happens.
By the way, some integration programs signed by Lukashenka a few months ago have a completion date of 2021.
It would also not hurt to ask, where is the exhaust, except for la-la?.

[Carat]

Quote: Terenin

Lukashenko is going to Russia before the end of the year.

Again, the money was needed free of charge ...
Well, what? Well settled. Buses - sell your trucks? Russia will buy according to instructions from above. To the detriment of their own.
Products to surpass the sanctions from Europe? Lukashenka has no problems. Business is on sea shrimp, but on Polish apples of Belarusian origin.
Is oil cheap for you? Yes, what problems, take it. Supply the Nazis from Ukraine with fuel.
Is there not enough money in the budget? No question if you come - we will fill our pockets, and free of charge.
Lukashenka sits on Russian sponsorship, and also poses as independence from himself.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Flood

The process of creating a new Union State, according to the Belarusian president, should not be tied to specific dates, since there is no need for haste in this matter.

Maybe so.
But I would like to see the results during my lifetime.

What will come of this and for how long? Both current leaders are far from young, but where will the young people who follow them, who study according to Western methods and patterns, recalling the Marked One with a loud, unkind word!

[APASUS]

If only the butt didn't wiggle again. He's too emotional. People have their own troubles, but sometimes you have to hold yourself back, we are talking about the whole nation and its future.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: APASUS

If only the butt didn't wiggle again. He's too emotional. People have their own troubles, but sometimes you have to hold yourself back, we are talking about the whole nation and its future.

The West set traps around the entire perimeter of the father and burned all the bridges, so the multi-vector approach ended and two vectors of development remained - either a union state or self-isolation like the DPRK.

[APASUS]

Quote: Nyrobsky

two vectors of development remained - either a union state or self-isolation like the DPRK.

There is still a way out - to surrender the country and bargain for a pension! Gorbachev succeeded

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: APASUS

Quote: Nyrobsky

two vectors of development remained - either a union state or self-isolation like the DPRK.

There is still a way out - to surrender the country and bargain for a pension! Gorbachev succeeded

You can't put Bow and Humpback next to him. But father is cunning, resourceful and most importantly not a coward. And Humpback is stupid, greedy and cowardly, which is what caused him to lose the presidential stool and surrender the country for dubious buns in the form of a medal and a foreign currency account. Whatever one may say, but Humpbacked will remain in history as a traitor president ...

[APASUS]

Quote: Nyrobsky

You can't put Bow and Humpback next to him. But father is cunning, resourceful and most importantly not a coward. And Humpback is stupid, greedy and cowardly, which is what caused him to lose the presidential stool and surrender the country for dubious buns in the form of a medal and a foreign currency account. Whatever one may say, but Humpbacked will remain in history as a traitor president ...

What difference does it make who sells the country: cunning and dodgy or stupid? There is no difference and the West does not care who hangs the medals. The main result!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: APASUS

The West does not care who hangs medals

The West, yes, no matter who, if only the "Knight of the Order of Judas" gave the opportunity to draw all the juice out of the country. In the 90s we had enough dashing.
Ukropostanians, for their preziks and for the Maidan, will now pay the IMF as a "bonus" for three generations.

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

Another driving with a pitchfork on the water. I let a lot of fog, so that they would not forget about it for a minute.

[Terenin]

Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay

Another driving with a pitchfork on the water. I let a lot of fog, so that they would not forget about it for a minute.

Well, I can't forget how on December 19, 2019 Lukashenka said that

... Belarus is not going to become a part of other states, "even fraternal Russia", and that he does not want to go down in history as the last president of Belarus.

[Alex_You]

Well, that was before the housewife beat him in the elections.

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

By the way, the signing of some stunning agreements was announced for November. And what was that? Or did I miss something important?

[Flooding]

Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay

By the way, the signing of some stunning agreements was announced for November. And what was that? Or did I miss something important?

On November 4, RIA Novosti reports that an integration decree of the Union State has been signed.

"The decree approves all 28 union programs approved in September, as well as the main directions for the implementation of the provisions of the Treaty on the creation of the SG for 2021-2023."

[TovSaaakhov]

Chatter and nothing more.

[AUL]

Quote: TovSaaakhov

Chatter and nothing more.

But father says (and does) what is beneficial to him at the moment. It is not a fact that in a week he will not say the exact opposite. He is very windy and capricious tovarisch!

[TovSaaakhov]

So windy that there is already the thought that this tovarisch is not tovarisch to us, from the word at all.

[paul3390]

the positive experience of the USSR will be taken into account

I did not understand - we will have socialism and Soviet power again?

[moreman78]

No, there will be one boltology ...

[NDR-791]

Quote: paul3390

I did not understand - we will have socialism and Soviet power again?

in the voice of V.I. Lenin
Socialism, my friend, this is accounting and control !!!
Here he will definitely be

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: NDR-791

Socialism, my friend, this is accounting and control !!!

Socialism, dear Artyom, is, first of all, the prohibition of private ownership of the means of production. And everything else is secondary.

[NDR-791]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

it is primarily the prohibition of private ownership of the means of production.

And not only, and not even above all. Even (as the dermokrats say) "in the most terrible years of totalitarianism" the soldering iron of the artel worker, who repaired the primus stove, belonged to him. And this is a means of production. For me personally, as one who managed to live and work and serve in the army in those days, socialism is stability and predictability... About this ... what they are going to call a union state, I can only say one thing: it will not make me hot, nor will it be cold. Therefore, only banter remains. And, by the way, in vain you doubt that accounting and control will be iron.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: NDR-791

the soldering iron of the artel worker who repaired the primus belonged to him

I do not want to argue, a lot has already been said about this and not by me, you cannot classify hammers, blowtorches and other tools as means of production. The means of production are understood (in the first approximation) those means that allow you to increase capital, without using your own labor. That is, "newspapers, factories, ships", etc. Ownership of an artel of an enterprise, private property is not for a number of reasons (public property, everyone works, etc.).

Quote: NDR-791

And, by the way, in vain you doubt that accounting and control will be iron.

I have no doubt at all, especially there will be control over the incomes of citizens. They will collect all the worst from both states.

[your1970]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Socialism, dear Artyom, is, first of all, the prohibition of private ownership of the means of production. And everything else is secondary.

Based on this dogmas then neither under the NEP nor under Stalin (artels) - socialism was impossible, because there were private owners of the means of production

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: your1970

If we proceed from this dogma, then neither under the NEP nor under Stalin (artels) - socialism was impossible, because there were private owners of the means of production

NEP - a step back, then two steps forward.))) So, it seems, they wrote about him. As for the artels and private property, I answered a little higher.

Quote: aleksejkabanets

I do not want to argue, a lot has already been said about this and not by me, you cannot classify hammers, blowtorches and other tools as means of production. The means of production are understood (in the first approximation) those means that allow you to increase capital, without using your own labor. That is, "newspapers, factories, ships", etc. Ownership of an artel of an enterprise, private property is not for a number of reasons (public property, everyone works, etc.).

Forgive me, please, my own quote. Lazy. I confess.

[your1970]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Forgive me, please, my own quote. Lazy. I confess.

Read about the artels under Stalin ...
For example, we had a mechanical artel of the year before 1955: two presses, a steam hammer, 5 workshop buildings, 40 a man of workers. They made hardware of all stripes (locks, etc.), nails and even boxes for money (!!!!)
At the post office there is still one with a painted lacquer cover of 1939 - Artel "Named after F.E.Dzerzhinsky" with 2 internal locks

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: your1970

Read about the artels under Stalin ...

The artel (cooperative) was not a private owner, for a number of reasons (public property, everyone works, etc.).

[your1970]

It is controversial that the property was a cooperative, the machines were bought for profit - and not received from the state ...
The farmer also works on his land of 5 hectares - is he not the owner?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: your1970

It is controversial that the property was a cooperative, the machines were bought for profit ...

So I say, the property was artisanal, that is, all members of the artel had a common artisanal property.

Quote: your1970

The farmer also works on his land of 5 hectares - is he not the owner?

If he works alone, then, according to that classification, he would be an individual farmer, and if he hired people, which was prohibited by law, he would be a fist. Common property (like artels), the same, had collective farms then.

[your1970]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

If he works alone, then, according to that classification, he would be an individual farmer, and if he hired people, which was prohibited by law, he would be a fist.

I gave you an example about now - you as an argument for the lack of ownership brought

Quote: aleksejkabanets

everyone is working

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: your1970

I gave you an example about now .....

Sorry, I didn't immediately understand, if about now, then a farmer who hires people cannot be an object of socialist management, even if he works with them. SPK (agricultural consumer cooperative), with some reservations (restrictions on property rights when leaving and entering a cooperative) can be an object of socialist management. If you are talking about it, of course.

[Region-25.rus]

I did not understand - we will have socialism and Soviet power again?

that neither! It's just that the oligarchs will agree on spheres of influence, sign their agreements there not to climb into someone else's territory of influence, etc. I suspect this will not affect ordinary people in any way.

[paul3390]

And what does the experience of the USSR have to do with it then?

[Region-25.rus]

And what does the experience of the USSR have to do with it then?

I think, approximately despite the fact that our clear-faced first speaks about - "the collapse of the USSR is a universal catastrophe" and then - "The USSR collapsed because it was untenable." At the same time, knowing perfectly well who, why and how destroyed that very USSR. Well, or they call to honor veterans, remember the Second World War, etc. ... And the mausoleum is draped on Victory Day, money is allocated for film-screeners on the theme of the Second World War, according to Fed. channels are encouraged to erect monuments to Kolchak, Krasnov, Mannerheim and others ... Or do you seriously think that our privatizers will give their "honestly acquired" into the people's property, sell real estate over the hill, and transfer children to domestic schools and universities? Well ... I don't even know.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Region-25.rus

"the collapse of the USSR is a universal catastrophe" and then - "The USSR collapsed because it was untenable"

I didn't understand what the contradiction was.

[Region-25.rus]

I didn't understand what the contradiction was.

find full quotes (if interested) and you will understand. Well, or remember the events and rhetoric of the authorities over the past 30 years. I will not describe all this. For a long time....

[paul3390]

And for him and his accomplices, what is the disaster ?? Under the Union, they would not be able to spin billions, as well as have yachts, palaces and watches for hundreds of thousands of dollars .. Somehow, it's hard to believe in the sincerity of his type of regrets ..

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: paul3390

And what does the experience of the USSR have to do with it then?

For the electorate.

[Alexga]

From personal experience, there is no particular difference at the everyday level between the living conditions in the BSSR and modern Belarus. Of course, there are certain grimaces, but this does not greatly affect life. So we have practically socialism.

[JD1979]

And what had been created for more than 10 years before that?)))

[ALARI]

And at whose expense will this banquet be? Now Belarus is asking for loans from Russia, which means its economy is unprofitable. That again, at our expense, we will level its economy as it was in the Union. We have, as it were, different approaches to the economy, they are under-socialism, we are under-capitalism.

[vitvit123]

If he became part of Russia, then to hell with him .., albeit unprofitable, but it would have been its own region. And then he has been sitting on the neck of Russia for 30 years, but how to unite, then no, of course, he will no longer be president ... scoundrel ...

[ALARI]

There will be one more superstructure with parasites like our Duma and the Federation Council and long red tape on any issue. This is what I mean, let's take the best from the Union and the EU.

[vitvit123]

With regret, I have to completely agree with you!

[vitvit123]

Oh Luca! Sly Luke!

[askort154]

It will combine the features of the EU and the USSR, but at the same time it will become "more advanced and stable." Lukashenko

Crossing a hedgehog with a snake will not work. The EU is capitalist countries. USSR - Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. If Belarus is closer to socialism, then Russia and other "former", it is not clear where. Everyone climbed into their own "burrow".
If there are several donor states in the EU - Germany, France, Italy (there was England), then only Russia will be the donor. And the "local korolki" will not want to join the collective farm. So you can glue the vase, but it will not be complete. Before the collapse of the union, some suggested to follow the path of China, communist rule with a market economy, but our "pseudo-communists" and liberals rejected this. But a return from capitalism to socialism is theoretically possible, which is more and more talked about in the West. The most difficult thing is to bloodlessly nationalize the means of production, if society is for this with both hands, then the oligarchy will not voluntarily surrender. Moreover, now everything is aimed at globalization.
Russia has the opportunity to go its own way, its resources are inexhaustible, but there is not enough population to build a separate economy. You need at least 250 million. They will unite in a common union, this is a way out, but not everyone will want it.

[well]

Decades have passed, and tales about the union state are still being told.

[Terenin]

Quote: well

Decades have passed, and tales about the union state are still being told.

Nothing wrong. It is necessary to frighten the Anglo-Saxons with a theory of the future, like the return of the USSR. Even they believed it.

[Misza]

Belarusians also need to be asked if they agree to this.

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[ALARI]

And not only Belarusians, we are also citizens of Russia.

[Misza]

Belarusians are a free nation, they should be asked if they agree with this.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Misza

Belarusians are a free nation, they should be asked if they agree with this.

what Belarusians? those in your photo? well, they are in Lithuania and Poland. we are not building a union state with Poland or Lithuania, so you don't have to ask these

[Misza]

There are no Poles or Lithuanians in the photo. There are only Belarusians ...

[Sanichsan]

waters flag of Belarus

Belarusians under this flag.

on your photo, licks, zmagars and other fascist trash under a fascist rag and just not very smart people who do not understand what flag and what they are going for. in short, not Belarusians

[Free wind]

The girl is a punt. Chalkboard blackboard.

[rocket757]

The process of creating a new Union State, according to the Belarusian president, should not be tied to specific dates, since there is no need for haste in this matter.

... To whom, to whom, and the AHL to talk about haste is nonsense.

[Per se.]

The Belarusian and Russian leaders are not trying to revive the Soviet Union, but, according to Lukashenko, they will take into account the positive experience of the USSR when forming the Union State of Belarus with Russia.

The process of creating a new Union State, according to the Belarusian president, should not be tied to specific dates, since there is no need for haste in this matter.

The Soviet Union was officially created on December 30, 1922, I would like to create (revive) a new union state no later than a century of this date. Little Russia, too, would be here by the way, yes, and without socialism, as it is poorly believed in reliability and prosperity.

[ALARI]

Before the creation of the Union, they first changed the political system, but now it will be a fiction, a beautiful wrapper, if there is.

[Per se.]

Quote: ALARI

Before the creation of the Union, they first changed the political system

They changed the political system, losing the Russian-Japanese (1905) and getting bogged down in the First World War. If our bourgeoisie get tired, start a war in the Donbass, "to restore constitutional order" by Kiev, then later they will get a new Crimean war. Ukraine will have international law and US and NATO assistance on its side. If the oligarchs, "effective managers" and renegades from the Communist Party of the Soviet Union screw up in this, too, there will be a change in the social system, the USSR 2.0 ... Otherwise, no "elections" will change anything in Russia, just like "unions" with Belarus , only Belarusians know what reductions and optimizations are.

[ALARI]

History has taken a turn, you very similarly described the situation when the Crimean War began 168 years ago. Then and now.

[Xlor]

We don't take sea divers into the union?

[elena filippova]

and I would like to see a union state headed by Lukashenka ...

[tatra]

Once again, it is clear from the comments of the enemies of the communists why the Russian Federation has "enemies all around." They simply have not grown to understand what geopolitics is, they believe that the authorities of other countries should just be friends with them, without any benefit for their countries and peoples.

[alystan]

You don't need to take anything from the experience of the EU, there is practically nothing positive, because everything that is more or less positive is presented there with fanfare and in a refined form - pure PR on empty!
But all the "minuses", of which there are a lot, must be taken into account!

[p0pulivox]

Quote: Carat

Yes, it would not have been better. Why do we need a constitution written by the CIA?
The people's constitution and the constitution imposed on the United States is there a difference?
They also have problems with democracy. There are 2 games - choose any, and they will draw the numbers of who won.
By the way, are you aware that it is impossible to create a third party in a democratic USA? Anyone who tried to do this is not a tenant in this world.

And who did not give you instead of amending the "CIA-written" Constitution, adopt a new one ?!
And on the second point you have a bad luck: in the United States there is a two-party system "at the top", but they have quite a lot of political parties and some even sometimes "break through" into the legislatures of individual states ...

[Valery Volkov]

The president needs to be renewed and ... a Belarusian, let him put things in order ... I know that they won't give it and who won't give it too clearly ...)