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Ukraine reacts to Zelensky's words about a possible referendum on Donbass

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The President of Ukraine gave an interview to one of the Ukrainian TV channels. In his interview, Volodymyr Zelenskyy made statements that managed to provoke criticism among Ukrainian radicals.


According to Zelensky, he admits the possibility of a referendum on the Donbass issue. Moreover, the Ukrainian president added a vague phrase, stating that now the main issue is not the status of Donbass and Crimea, but "maybe, in general, the end of the war."

Ukrainian experts concluded from these words of the president that the status issue may not be brought up for an all-Ukrainian vote. Instead, if a plebiscite takes place at all in the ballots, one should expect "vague wording" related to the cessation of hostilities. For obvious reasons, most Ukrainians are in favor of this kind of termination, however, there is an opinion that this is unlikely to somehow prevent the same radicals from unwinding the military flywheel again, after which the Ukrainian troops will also join the process, in whose command Zelensky is not taken seriously ...

In an interview, the Ukrainian president also once again announced his readiness for direct negotiations with Vladimir Putin. Let us remind you that earlier in Kiev, the thesis was promoted that there can be no negotiations on Ukraine without the participation of Ukraine itself. However, just such negotiations took place the other day. They were held by the presidents of Russia and the United States. After that, Zelensky again had a "desire" to add significance to himself and declare his readiness to speak with the Russian leader.

Meanwhile, Ukrainian radicals said that "no referendum on Donbass is possible, because that in itself will support separatism." At the same time, Ukrainians with more pragmatic views, reacting to the words of the president of the country, support his very idea, but note that for Zelensky today it is unlikely to become feasible.
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  1. Seryoga64
    Seryoga64 11 December 2021 06: 40
    +5
    his idea itself is supported, but they note that for Zelensky today it is unlikely to become feasible

    Well, yes. This is from the realm of fantasy
    1. URAL72
      URAL72 11 December 2021 07: 19
      +8
      Well, yes. This is from the realm of fantasy

      Why? If the owner says, they will pick him up. America realized that Russia was ready to fight for its interests, so it could decide that it would be better to seize Ukraine without Crimea and Donbass, but quietly. They can do it - Russia is not profitable from the war. Moreover, to start it first.
      1. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 11 December 2021 07: 23
        -1
        Quote: URAL72
        If the owner says, they will pick him up.

        This is a prezikloun under the nose.
        The common people, for the most part, do not care deeply about America
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 11 December 2021 09: 39
          +3
          Quote: Seryoga64
          Quote: URAL72
          If the owner says, they will pick him up.

          This is a prezikloun under the nose.
          The common people, for the most part, do not care deeply about America

          The owner will tell you to hold a referendum - and hold it. And there ... Biden won in America. And then they will try "what should be done" the result.

          Only if he is "under the hood" will he sign a verdict for himself. And, perhaps, not only about political death. The Nazis, stubborn in their faith in the most democratic Ukraine, will not forgive him for the "evil-spirited" and "deflection under Putin." At the same time, they will not even remember about America - only Ze will be to blame for everything. I would say "with the comrades" - but who is left with him, whom he has not yet betrayed from among the "comrades"?

          Yes, and more. Will Donbass and Crimea take part in that referendum? Or as in the presidential elections in Ukraine?
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 11 December 2021 18: 22
            +1
            No worries. Green clown NEVER will not hold a referendum on Donbass. And chatting is possible! laughing
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 11 December 2021 18: 43
              +2
              Vladimir, hi !;
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              No worries. Green clown NEVER will not hold a referendum on Donbass. And chatting is possible! laughing

              Yes, I myself understand ... Something completely out of the ordinary, directly offending America and, most importantly, putting it on money, Ze should do so that the Washington regional committee says
              Oh, how are you!?!? !!! Well, hold on ...
              Ze will not do this for two reasons - he will not think of it and dare not. And if, fantastically, this happens, then America will quite practically and casually force Ze (or any other president of Skakuasia - it doesn't matter) to hold this referendum, which is suicidal for Ze. Because for him, refusal (in case of receiving an order) is equal to death, and carrying out is equal to crucifixion by the Nazis.
      2. 1976AG
        1976AG 11 December 2021 10: 21
        +2
        War is not beneficial to anyone, another question is whether it will turn out differently. And about starting first, do not indulge oneself with illusions, even if Ukraine starts, they will still blame us. So it makes no difference to us.
    2. knn54
      knn54 11 December 2021 09: 40
      0
      Why only in Donbass?
      Ukraine is a federal republic - like the Russian Federation, Germany, Switzerland.
      And the Union of the States of America.
  2. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 11 December 2021 06: 40
    +4
    The sooner the Outskirts begin to fulfill the Minsk agreements, the faster it will fall apart like an old chicken coop. Rather .... Tired of it.
    1. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 11 December 2021 06: 57
      +7
      In an interview, the Ukrainian president also once again announced his readiness for direct negotiations with Vladimir Putin.

      We have already repeatedly told the skakuas that it is possible to talk, but about what? There is nothing to talk about yet! If you want to talk, then talk to the people of Donbass. But the clown maniacally repeats about the meeting with Putin, it’s just some kind of fetish. So he wants to sit with him at the same table that he can’t eat! yes
      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 11 December 2021 07: 04
        +9
        What's the point of talking to him if they are not negotiable? He will still call the Washington regional committee for instructions, so Putin speaks directly with the masters of Ukraine.
        1. Lionnvrsk
          Lionnvrsk 11 December 2021 07: 06
          +5
          Quote: Pessimist22
          therefore, Putin speaks directly to the masters of Ukraine.

          Right. But Putin does not speak to Ze also because this clown has twice failed to fulfill the agreement. So what is the point of talking with a blanket.
          1. Pessimist22
            Pessimist22 11 December 2021 07: 27
            +6
            Putin doesn't talk to him because it doesn't make sense.
    2. SSR
      SSR 11 December 2021 07: 06
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      The sooner the Outskirts begin to fulfill the Minsk agreements, the faster it will fall apart like an old chicken coop. Rather .... Tired of it.

      Vice versa. Do you remember the main points?
      The longer it is not performed, the more real the decay.
  3. Victor_B
    Victor_B 11 December 2021 06: 41
    +4
    It doesn't matter how they vote.
    The main thing is WHO and HOW will count!
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 11 December 2021 06: 53
      +1
      Quote: Victor_B
      It doesn't matter how they vote.
      The main thing is WHO and HOW will count!

      It is not yet known what questions will be pulled out to that referendum. Recently, Ze was told in plain text: Accession to NATO is a decision of the Ukrainian people and the members of the alliance itself. It will start to run two questions in one package, indivisibly. About Donbass and NATO. And how they will count with such a setting is clear to everyone.
  4. 210ox
    210ox 11 December 2021 06: 42
    +3
    Well, they will vote. What will it change? Ukraine is an object of international politics, and it will not be the "throngs" who decide
  5. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 11 December 2021 06: 45
    +2
    Yes, these statements are just dust, winter and the economic situation will show all political directions in the spring.
    1. Andrey Moskvin
      Andrey Moskvin 11 December 2021 07: 06
      +4
      We have been here for a year already expecting something from the next winter and spring ...
  6. ose4kinsura
    ose4kinsura 11 December 2021 06: 53
    +2
    Yes, the country is sick, smallpox cannot be cured with green stuff! There are two treatment options: either a crossbow or a guillotine!
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 11 December 2021 07: 00
      +4
      Better a guillotine. And so that even the name of this country would be forgotten.
  7. Uran53
    Uran53 11 December 2021 06: 59
    +4
    Ze seems to want to back down on the issue of resolving the conflict in Donbass by military means. He then thought that if Ukraine starts a database, then NATO will also fit in. But all the partners quickly washed their hands. And even the Can. And without outside support, the country will cease to exist in a maximum of a week. That's just who will let him do it.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 11 December 2021 07: 11
      +2
      Quote: Uran53
      then NATO will also fit

      As for Mishiko, they fit in! Ze only has one tie! sad
      1. Uran53
        Uran53 11 December 2021 14: 50
        +1
        Klimkin will take lol
  8. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 11 December 2021 07: 09
    +2
    In Ukraine react to words Zelensky on the possible holding of a referendum on the Donbass issue

    Real deeds are much more useful than idle chatter. Let him hold a referendum among the inhabitants of the LPR on the right to secede from Ukraine. Even if it invites observers from Germany, Russia and France. The results of the referendum are the law of life and an official document on the status of the republics. Maybe Russia's attitude to the Ukrainian authorities will change.
  9. Ros 56
    Ros 56 11 December 2021 07: 22
    +3
    There is nothing to talk about with this wretched Ze, he has already said everything he wanted. And about the Russians, and about the Second World War, and about the Donbass and a lot more about what. Recognize the LPNR as the successors of the Ukrainian SSR and dance from here.
  10. Li17
    Li17 11 December 2021 07: 28
    +2
    On Ukrainian TV, one politician very aptly remarked, if you work for a farmer, then you are his partner? So, the farmer and the laborers do not solve the issues!
  11. _simply
    _simply 11 December 2021 07: 49
    +1
    Volodymyr found himself between a hammer (or hammers) and a hard place. Here's how to find a compromise? Of course, the "nazbats" could have been outlawed. But what will be the reaction? Bandera's blackness will again crawl to Zelensky's office. And a scream with abusive inscriptions on the walls will not do here. Character is needed and obstinacy; authority, after all. However, the LDNR is already out of reach. Conduct at least a thousand referendums.
  12. Baloo
    Baloo 11 December 2021 08: 02
    0
    another trick
  13. bar
    bar 11 December 2021 08: 26
    0
    According to Zelensky, he admits the possibility of a referendum on the Donbass issue.

    And easily. Zelenkin does not risk anything. Russophobia in 404 has already multiplied so much that even in the event of a referendum, Donbass will have no good luck. It's gone too far there request

    we should expect "vague wording" associated with the cessation of hostilities.

    And even in this case, the maximum that can be expected is the withdrawal of the Armed Forces from the line of contact. But there will be "good soldiers" who are happy to continue shelling and provocations.
  14. cniza
    cniza 11 December 2021 08: 39
    +1
    Moreover, the Ukrainian president added a vague phrase, stating that now the main issue is not the status of Donbass and Crimea, but "maybe, in general, the end of the war."


    They spanked him, so he began to sing, but inside the country they would press him even more ...
  15. north 2
    north 2 11 December 2021 08: 52
    +2
    But why could there be the United States of America and not the United States of Ukraine? And Ukraine will heal like America ... There are different recipes for recommending those who want to live like the Americans, Swedes, French or Germans. For example, those wishing to live like the Swedes, French or Germans are advised to attack Russia, to get Lyuli from Russia and will live like the Swedes, French or Germans. What problems ...
    The whole trouble with all the Balts and Ukrainians is that they do not want to live like the Finns live. The fact is that the Finns do not want to live like the Americans, Canadians, Swiss or Belgians. The Finns want to live the way the Finns live ... And thank God that the Russians in Russia also want to live the way the Russians live ... As for the United States of Ukraine, this is, of course, from the realm of fantasy, because the disintegration of Ukraine will be instant. However, the disintegration of Ukraine must be carried out without fail and the sooner the better. How - ask Putin. So far, all of Putin's geopolitical victories have been permanent, exclusive, not formulaic ...
  16. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 December 2021 09: 04
    +3
    According to Zelensky, he admits the possibility of a referendum on the Donbass issue. Moreover, the Ukrainian president added a vague phrase, stating that now the main issue is not the status of Donbass and Crimea, but "maybe, in general, the end of the war."
    Ну Sho, was blown away by the clown ?! Or another quirk? but by and large - as the merikatos says, so be it. Although in the light of recent events, the merikatos seems to have moved off the topic, and instead of him small-shavens have crawled out onto the field.
  17. Rock616
    Rock616 11 December 2021 10: 26
    0
    I still do not understand what issue, this drug, wants to put to the referendum.
    1. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 11 December 2021 17: 38
      0
      Quote: Rock616
      I still do not understand what issue, this drug, wants to put to the referendum.
      There will be a question about free cultivation and consumption cannabis...
      wassat
  18. solzh
    solzh 11 December 2021 10: 29
    0
    Zelensky always talks a lot, promises and declares ... All his words are worthless.
    He, as "the president of the country," and Ukraine were excluded from the negotiation process. So he reminds of himself.
    There will be no referendum, no one will allow it to be held.
  19. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 11 December 2021 10: 31
    0
    Where will the referendum be held? In Donbass or in Zapukra? If in Banderland, then the result is already known, you should not waste time and money)))
  20. Raven 95
    Raven 95 11 December 2021 12: 30
    +10
    Why would VVP talk to some clown?
    We have already discussed everything with the owner of the clown.
  21. babylon
    babylon 12 December 2021 00: 06
    0
    Better to hold a referendum for reunification with Russia and Belarus and all problems will disappear by themselves
    And then the election of a single president of the union.
    Candidates: Putin, Lukashenko and Zelensky, who will win? I think 90 percent that Lukashenka and a nightmare will become a reality for the Maydan authorities, and there will be no honey for the Russian oligarchs either
  22. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 12 December 2021 01: 21
    0
    Quote: Pessimist22
    Putin does not speak to him

    Biden and I decided everything.
    What does Ze have to do with it?
    The Ze-speaking in Biden's words is a puppet.
    Donbass was decided to be given to Great Russia, Tripolitania was taken by the Americans. So at least a fellow freelancer at RSOTM says.
    1. hikker
      hikker 13 December 2021 02: 38
      -1
      If this is so, and the Donbass will leave, well, everything, the rest of the Russian population needs to pack their bags and run, because after the loss of Donbass, in Ukraine, Russians will become like Jews in the Third Reich, guilty of everything and without any rights. Perfectly Bald will make you happy.
  23. froger
    froger 12 December 2021 07: 43
    -2
    If in Russia referendums are in the realm of fantasy, then in Ukraine - even more so. This proves that in spite of everything, we remain kindred countries - not only by Slavic blood, but also by the management system.
  24. zenion
    zenion 12 December 2021 16: 13
    +1
    Zelensky recalls an old joke about a fox and a ram. The fox is running, angry and hungry. And he sees a ram grazing on the top of the hill and his personal belongings are large. The fox made a plan - he will sneak up unnoticed, tear them off and eat them. He began to crawl up to the ram. The ram saw him and pretended not to see. When the fox crept up and was about to rush, the ram moved its horns and the fox rolled down. He caught his breath, came to his senses a little, sat down and said - they didn’t come off and don’t, he didn’t really want to. No matter how it turns out that the rest of Ukraine will join the Donbass in the referendum.
    1. hikker
      hikker 13 December 2021 02: 36
      0
      let the Russian population join it with their territories, and not Ukraine, what's the point of annexing Ukrainian territories with Ukraine and Ukraine? so that then another hundred years of hemorrhoids was? this gangrene must be cut off and burned in the oven, as is always done
  25. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 13 December 2021 00: 47
    0
    The Ukrainian proverb says - "... he gets richer with a thought ...." - so Monique Zelensky
  26. hikker
    hikker 13 December 2021 02: 33
    0
    How many times has this addict talked about the referendums? a hundred times? at least one spent? I don’t remember, this is all just another populist propaganda campaign, especially since he is a drug addict, but he understands that the Nazis will not forgive him for this
  27. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 13 December 2021 10: 04
    0
    Strictly speaking, given the political will to end the war, one can very quickly from either side. But there is no such will for 7 years, and there are no prospects of appearance either.
  28. Vladimir-78
    Vladimir-78 13 December 2021 13: 19
    0
    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
    No worries. Green clown NEVER will not hold a referendum on Donbass. And chatting is possible! laughing

    Never say never. A very ancient proverb. When it is secured, this half-breed will also say and sign something else. And if it smells of fried specifically, then 95% of "theirs are more happy" will write an application to join the ranks of our main party.