Borisov spoke about the plans for testing the modernized strategic missile carrier Tu-160M2 of the new construction

Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov made a little clarity in the test schedule for the modernized Russian Tu-160M2 missile carrier of a new construction, having told about this during his visit to the UEC-Perm Motors enterprise.

During a visit to the enterprise, Borisov was asked a question about testing a new Tu-160M2 missile carrier, assembled from scratch at the Kazan aircraft plant. As you know, new NK-32 engines of the second series are installed on the missile carrier. As the Deputy Prime Minister explained, the flight of the new missile carrier is planned for early next year. In the meantime, the plane will be jogging at the airfield.

The first flight of the new Tu-160 is planned, I hope, at the beginning of next year. (...) On the new NK-32, let him run at least

- said Borisov.

As a source in the OPK previously reported, the management of the Kazan aircraft plant does not plan to make the first flight of the Tu-160M2 of a new assembly in December, the aircraft will make several runs along the runway as part of the tests, but will not take off. The date of the flight has not yet been set, it is "floating" and depends on the decision of the management.

Prior to that, the aircraft plant stated that the aircraft manufacturers are faced with the task of lifting the plane into the air by the end of the year. The contract for the production of a pilot batch of ten Tu-160M2s was signed in 2018. Aircraft of the new assembly and deeply modernized combat bombers will not differ from each other, however, they received different markings: Tu-160M ​​for modernized combatants and Tu-160M2 for those built from scratch.

As part of the signed contracts, 160 combat missile carriers Tu-15 of the Russian Aerospace Forces must be upgraded to the level of Tu-160M, and ten new Tu-2027M160 strategists have been built by 2 with the start of deliveries in 2023.

Comments

[Victor_B]

Terrible beauty!

[Tusv]

Quote: Victor_B

Terrible beauty!

Beauty is a terrible force, according to Faina Georgievna, especially if the bourgeoisie will rely on the Penguin. But it seems the States and Israel have begun to guess. The Last Eagle is capable of intercepting the Swan at 100%

[Cossack 471]

Kamrad. I’m not a pilot and I don’t understand anything. Who is Faina Georgievna? what the Americans began to guess about and how some kind of Eagle is able to intercept the White Swan 100%? If not a burden. please explain Thanks in advance

[Tusv]

Quote: Cossack 471

Who is Faina Georgievna

"Mulya, don't make me nervous" and urgently review Soviet comedies - Fayechka Ranevskaya, of course

[Tusv]

And what are the cons? American stealth has a pretty decent speed limit. The Raptor has 2.1 M. The Penguin has definitely less Raptor. Well, they will not catch up with a stupid one. What will the bullets be? Invisibility. And Eagle will easily catch up. The latest modification is not inferior to the Su-35

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And what are the cons?

Tu-160 is a strategic missile carrier, its missile launch range is about 5500 km.

In simple terms, the Tu-160 will hit targets (AUG / KUG of the enemy, military bases, headquarters and warehouses, military-industrial complex enterprises, etc.) from a range at which no fighter can reach it in any way.

[Zaurbek]

While he can only carry CD ... ... he does not carry anti-ship missiles

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The Kh-101 missile (Tu-160 12 pieces) is capable of destroying moving targets with an accuracy of up to 10 m at a distance of 5500 meters.

This is enough for any ship starting from a corvette.

The Kh-102 is the same missile, but with a nuclear warhead.

So that the Tu-160 can attack enemy ships.

[Zaurbek]

This is where it is written about "moving targets"?
1. For this you need another seeker or with optics or radar (AGSN)
2. No wonder they came up with an anti-ship missile based on Caliber (but this is a different missile)
3. The main opponent of our anti-ship missiles is AUG (the West does not have it yet), and here they wrote many times about the success or failure of an anti-ship missile attack on such objects. and which is preferable to sound or Super sound or GP ...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

To do this, you need another seeker or with optics or radar (AGSN)

It is precisely these GOS that are on the X-101. A combined guidance system is used and it is even possible to change the target after the missile has been launched.

[Zaurbek]

This is now being tested by the Americans on their CD ... there was no information about the Russian Federation.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I don’t know what the Americans have, but there is such information on the X-101. This missile can hit not only stationary objects, but also moving ones, with an accuracy of 10 meters, which is quite enough to destroy a ship.

The combination of the Kh-101 and Tu-160 missiles allowed Russia to obtain a formidable and fast striking force, which in a few hours can destroy a grouping of enemy ships on the way to Russian or some other shores from any direction, as well as deliver a massive strike on any targets in Europe, Turkey, the Middle East and Asia.

That is why the decision was made to increase the number of Tu-160s, despite the fact that the development of a new PAK-DA bomber is underway.

With all this, the Tu-160 does not even need to approach the target at a range from which even fighters can reach it, not to mention ground-based air defense systems.

[Serg Kam]

American stealth has a pretty decent speed limit. The Raptor has 2.1 M. The Penguin is definitely less than the Raptor. Well, they won't catch up stupid.

Is interception possible only in catch-up mode?
And to intercept it is necessary to catch up? Launch a rocket, such as the AIM-120, which fly at a speed of Mach 4 - won’t guess?
Moreover, the cruising speed of the Tu-160 is much lower, at full speed it will leave only if it notices the interceptor (and this will not be easy, given that it has a forward-looking radar).

[Zaurbek]

Tu160 also has no oversound cruising ... only with afterburner

[rocket757]

Competencies are not lost but supplemented, it pleases.
We would like to revive the civil aircraft industry to the required level, it would be very good.

[Edik]

Quote: rocket757

We would like to revive the civil aircraft industry to the required level, it would be very good.

Everything rests on the engine, we are waiting!
I also want to fly on our domestic aircraft and not "partners" from whom we buy, thereby developing their aircraft construction.
And of course you will have to wrap all your shaggy hands behind your back and onto the bunks!

[Tusv]

Quote: rocket757

We would like to revive the civil aircraft industry to the required level

It is difficult to compete with wide-body Boeings with Airbas. And so. On medium. With our short runways, and with state support. The Superjet with MC 21 has no competitors. This rebirth is natural. But here the obstacle is global certification

[Aviator_]

The Superjet with MC 21 has no competitors.

That is why almost all of its foreign buyers abandoned the Superbudget. Competitors - Embrayer and Bombardier. And the MS-21 has yet to be finished and finished, their composite wing has just been made. the airframe resource drops.

[Tusv]

Quote: Aviator_

it is something that practically all of its foreign buyers have abandoned the Superbudget.

I will say more. I know a person who has certified the Superjet. The husband of my wife's friend. Over a glass of tea, I called it a complete onom, but I also know another person - Father-in-law, who is the head of ATB (Avia technical base), for whom the Superjet is manna from heaven. There are a lot of short runways across Mother Russia. Medium-haul Boeing cannot land safely on them. So it goes

[Volkof]

SuperJet is the most vile project in the history of the domestic aircraft industry ... This is a project for sawing money by a group of traitors to kill the domestic aircraft industry. For the money spent on this project for the enrichment of a group of traitors and the development of foreign companies, it was possible to build 5 domestic aircraft, but so far there is not one ... This project destroyed so many factories and dynasties of the country's workers that it still hiccups ... the fate of honest people and leaders is innumerable ... And now they teach children to continue to trade in the Motherland ...

[Tusv]

Quote: Volkof

SuperJet is the most vile project in the history of the Russian aviation industry

Today I snapped off a lot of minuses. Guy. The Boeing 1200 has 150 meters less stopping distance for the Superjet. You all go nafik. My father-in-law is right when he says I need to plant a pepelats. The standard lane, if not international in the Russian Federation, is only a kilometer. Draw conclusions

[Volkof]

Does a Russian brand made from foreign parts of not the first freshness have a braking distance 150 meters shorter than a foreign brand made from the same but advanced parts? And so it can be? Is a fake better than the original? And you believe it ?! Do you know that the Russian power supply system and generators for the PD-14 for the MS-21-310 have not yet been tested and it is very interesting what is on the first such aircraft!

[Tusv]

Don't you understand the length of the runway?

[Errr]

Quote: Aviator_

The "Superbudget" suffers from buffering when the reverse is turned on, which is also a decent problem, the airframe's resource is dropping.

There is another opinion:

The problems with buffing GO on the RRJ are really insoluble. In the sense that they do not need to be solved. No buffet on RRJs under normal operating conditions as prescribed by 25.251. Those modes that were obtained during the tests lie outside the boundaries of the operational area. Low speed buffering on the RRJ does not exist during normal operation of the control system. With spiral bends, we got buffing at an overload of about 2,0 instead of 1,3 prescribed in 25.251 (1 *).

http://superjet.wikidot.com/wiki:bafting

[Aviator_]

There is no buffet in flight. It is on the run after landing when the engines are in reverse.

[Tusv]

Quote: Herrr

There is another opinion:

It is not correct. Not a father-in-law, not a Person who seized. You will not be understood. For a different opinion is divine and has nothing to do with aviation

[Errr]

Another opinion was heard not from my couch, but from the couch installed exactly in the design bureau of JSC "Sukhoi Civil Aircraft". Maybe you, as a person close to you, know something about Valeria Popov?

[Aviator_]

Under the notorious Gore-Chernomyrdin agreement, Russia is prohibited from making long-haul vehicles. That is, you can do something, but the West will never let them on their routes. One hope - a joint project with the Chinese

[Tusv]

Quote: Aviator_

Under the notorious Gore-Chernomyrdin agreement, Russia is prohibited from making long-haul vehicles

There is no such direct prohibition. Another thing is not certified, this is an objective reality. International certification

[Aviator_]

Well, so I mean it, look at the end of the commentary.

[Tusv]

Damn, and I unfolded the objective reality for you. I know the person who certified the Superjet and I know the ATB chief for whom this bird is meant. There are a lot of short runways in Mother Russia, where the Boeing is avno, and the Superjet is the king. Moreover, at the level of family and loved ones

[Non-fighter]

The question is who will buy our civil aircraft :( The market has already been divided :(

[rocket757]

We can say that there would be something to sell, but there will be a buyer, but ... all questions can be resolved if we take it up in a specific way.
Correctly, it is necessary to do, but not right, we have been pulling the "cat by the tail" for so long.

[Volkof]

Competencies are not lost but supplemented, it pleases.

They are trying to restore competences, or rather to revive ... And the result is only expected! Tu-160M2 hasn't even taken off yet. One must be careful to want and dream and fantasize, dear !!!

[rocket757]

Wanting, dreaming, changing ... the floor, for example, stands silently, in silence, otherwise the parquet will not be laid so well and there will be nothing to be happy about.

[AC130 Gunship]

rocket,
And what exactly has not been lost? They released another aircraft developed in the 70s of the last century. The newly released aircraft carries 12 cruise missiles. B52, developed 70 years ago, carries 16 of the same

[rocket757]

Ha, ha, and we have GAZ in our apartment, and what about you?
Do not bother rejoicing ...

[knn54]

Revival (+ hyper, + nuclear submarine), nuclear TRIAD.

[Volkof]

Tu-160 is a very expensive aircraft with dubious combat effectiveness! With a serious mix, this shed may not have time to take off. It is always visible and their location is easily tracked by the enemy ... The preparation time for a flight with loaded rockets is about one daylight hours, and when equipped with rockets, two days ??
The take-off weight of the shed is about 270 tons, the empty weight is 110 tons, the fuel weight is about 150 tons ... To accommodate the missiles, you also need to reduce the fuel supply.
One flight of this dinosaur to demonstrate the country's flag costs more than the annual budget of the regional center ... And why lift 270 tons into the air to launch 12 missiles weighing about 20 tons? He does not carry out air duty, takes off from only a few airfields ... It is very doubtful that 10 new such aircraft will be made, ... 5 will be enough.
Wait and see !!!
Better to take 12 airships and hang 1 rocket each and place them anywhere! It will cost 1000 times cheaper, and the combat effectiveness will increase 10 times .... Now there will be a lot of helium if the plant has already been repaired after the explosion !!!

[wandlitz]

"Great Initiative" - ​​V. I. Lenin. Without any irony ...

[Serg 122]

Great news, it's already there. Of course, if it took off this year, "under the Christmas tree", it would be more pleasant - a good gift for the New Year. But apparently they are afraid ~ what if something is not normal situation. Therefore, they moved the next year ...

[Glagol1]

We remember the Il-112V. There is no need to rush, January is also a good month.

[Rushnairfors]

Do not compare with the Il-112, the Tu160 was "taught" to fly a long time ago, this is reliability, time-tested, and the 112th machine is new, not tested in all modes, and besides, in a single copy, for it, and the airplane flight control probably in writing process so far

[TatarinSSSR]

Half a year to build one plane. 6 months! If everything goes well ...

[Tusv]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

Half a year to build one plane. 6 months! If everything goes well ...

What do you want? This is not a fucking makher, but half of the state in America in one salvo, or as much as two, if we are talking about New Jersey with New York.

[TatarinSSSR]

At the expense of the two states in one fell swoop ... It's not so simple. Here on VO there was an article by not a stupid author, where everything was professionally described - how many of our warheads and how much power they would fly, and how much damage those who arrived would inflict on the Americans and their cities, let alone the bases. To inflict irreparable damage to the United States only on the North American continent, Russia needs three times as many nuclear warheads and delivery vehicles.

[Zaurbek]

SSZ is and is made for 200 pieces and not bought for $$$. 200 aircraft over the hill. And a lot of flights are open not through the capital ... ...

[lvov_aleksey]

I love white swans !!!!!

[AC130 Gunship]

The only positive thing about this is that the last people don't run with KAPO. It seems that there is a job and it seems that they are paid a salary. And KAPO produces 1-2 Tu214 per year, 1 Tu160 in 15 years, and so on.