"Warmly greeted each other": the Presidents of Russia and the United States hold talks on a special closed line

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At about 18:00 Moscow time, a widely announced meeting of the presidents of Russia and the United States began, which is being held in video format. Its peculiarity lies in the fact that Vladimir Putin and Joe Biden communicate through a special closed communication line, which was not previously used officially at all. Until now, this line has been used exclusively in a test version.

The first footage of the conversation between the presidents of Russia and the United States, published by the Kremlin press service, has also appeared. The heads of state greeted each other, and this greeting can hardly be called tense or somehow strained. As experts noted, if we ignore the extremely serious reason for the talks between Moscow and Washington, “it seems that this is a meeting of old friends who are happy to see each other.”



Biden greeted Putin with a wide smile and a gesture of his hand, the Russian president greet the head of the United States in return, and also with a smile on his face.

The US President noted that he would like to soon hold a meeting with his Russian counterpart in person too.

Recall that the main topic in the conversation between Putin and Biden is Ukraine, the situation in this country. Recently, the United States has constantly accused Russia of being ready to launch an offensive. Moscow responds by saying that Russia is not going to attack anyone. At the same time, Vladimir Putin previously noted that behind such accusations against the Russian Federation lies the constant advancement of NATO's military infrastructure to the Russian borders. The Russian President stated that Moscow intends to seek guarantees from the United States and NATO on the further non-proliferation of the bloc to the east and on the non-deployment of strike weapons near the borders of Russia.

Biden said earlier that he does not recognize any "red borders".

Political scientists in Russia and the United States believe that in the course of direct communication, the heads of state may come to a compromise solution. It can consist of a series of mutual concessions to avoid further escalation. Almost no one expects a special breakthrough from the meeting, but many are talking about a chance to avoid a large-scale conflict. Dialogue is in any case better than silence and further escalation of the situation.
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  1. +17
    7 December 2021 19: 50
    then "it seems that this is a meeting of old friends who are happy to see each other."

    How lovely. And that's all, enemies are enemies ... But no, not even "partners", but "old friends"
    1. +2
      7 December 2021 20: 09
      In general, I sincerely do not understand what you can talk about with mattress mats? Their word is not worth a damn dime. A useless pastime ..
      1. +29
        7 December 2021 20: 30
        Do you think the time for talking is over, and it's time to smack ...
        How to beat? Rook - scary, Right in the jaw - kind of early, Inconvenient - the first game. ..(with).
        1. -16
          7 December 2021 20: 48
          it is high time to smack but it is reasonable but it is necessary
          1. +12
            8 December 2021 01: 09
            Those who offer to smack
            a) They live in the field and eat potatoes (then where do you have the Internet from)
            b) Live abroad

            Because only a madman can propose war. I can directly see the smallers in the first row running to die while shouting "Hurray!", And bombs are falling on their wives and children. In the USSR, they kept the line, all the works were with a hint that they die in war. Now you read and are horrified ...
        2. -14
          7 December 2021 20: 57
          crow, they put us in these conditions, and they pissed, we need to beat tactically, spitting on sanctions
        3. -4
          7 December 2021 21: 40
          In my opinion, so far they are beating us in the jaw exclusively. And - unrequited .. Our small ones just wipe the yushka, repeating rotten mantras about dear partners. And - what do you think such Tolstoyism will lead to?
          1. 0
            7 December 2021 23: 25
            Well, one, as it were, does not turn their cheek, but the official wink
        4. Aag
          +4
          7 December 2021 22: 05
          Quote: Raven-95
          Do you think the time for talking is over, and it's time to smack ...
          How to beat? Rook - scary, Right in the jaw - kind of early, Inconvenient - the first game. ..(with).

          The "game" is far from the first ...
          But for V.S. Vysotsky, - "+".
        5. +2
          7 December 2021 23: 12
          "Oh, you steel muscles, my tenacious fingers, eh carved - painted, my white elephants"
      2. +7
        7 December 2021 20: 40
        Yes, the chatter will be "your king, my ardent greetings" and the Okrainsk volost is not discussed.

        The main thing is that this rootless idleness should not be hanged around the neck of the Russian Federation again.
        1. -3
          7 December 2021 21: 18
          Quote: Incvizitor
          The main thing is that this rootless idleness should not be hanged around the neck of the Russian Federation again.

          Do you mean a well-born millionaire?
          1. +9
            7 December 2021 23: 16
            figure it out with your country yourself, why not hang up all the problems that Mikola created on Vanka again.
            and then again, first with a bare butt, to run to klyaty matskaly, and then to the whole world yell as they feed klyaty matskaly all their lives. the population of the ruin never corrects itself and always behaves the same, it does not depend on polit. building, neither from religion, nor from language, 404 is a cursed territory where Russians cease to consider themselves Russians and begin to consider themselves as some other people
            1. +4
              7 December 2021 23: 35
              Quote: just explo
              figure it out with your country yourself, why not hang up all the problems that Mikola created on Vanka again.

              These problems were created for our, now divided countries, not by Vanka and Mikola.
              Quote: just explo
              and then again, first with a bare butt, to run to klyaty matskaly, and then to the whole world yell as they feed klyaty matskaly all their lives.

              Was it not your like-minded people who screamed at the time "Stop feeding the Caucasus", "Stop feeding the Baltic states", "Stop feeding Ukraine", and will you still not calm down? Tomorrow, what will you shout "Stop feeding Tatarstan" or "Stop feeding Kalmykia"?
              Quote: just explo
              the population of the ruin is never corrected and always behaves the same

              The population of Ukraine is exactly the same Russians as you or me. TV on the population of the Russian Federation and the population of Ukraine acts in the same way.

              Quote: just explo
              404 is a cursed territory where Russians stop considering themselves Russians and begin to consider themselves as some other people

              Once they were called Maloros, now Ukrainians, what has changed? Nazi propaganda, from Ukrainian channels, turned their heads to many illiterate, why are you becoming like them?
              1. -6
                8 December 2021 02: 23
                it was Mikola and John who created them, and Vanka is making it out.
                and by the way, when Russia threw off these republics, Russia began to live better, in contrast to these proud republics that “fed” the RSFSR into life, and how they gained independence they cannot even feed themselves, let alone the damned invaders.
                the population of the ruins is not the same Russian population as we are, it is a population of traitors and Judas.
                it's not my problem that they turned out to be so stupid that they fell for stupid propaganda, forgetting themselves, their history, their ancestors. for the population of 404, money and lard have always been dearer than honor, loyalty and their homeland. for this they were not loved even in the USSR and they said that they were greedier than the Jews.
                1. +2
                  8 December 2021 05: 27
                  Quote: just explo
                  and by the way, when Russia threw off these republics, Russia began to live better

                  That is, Russia is now living better than under the USSR?
                  Quote: just explo
                  not my problem that they turned out to be so stupid that they fell for stupid propaganda

                  Do you often look in the mirror?
                  Quote: just explo
                  lard has always been dearer than honor, loyalty and homeland. for this they were not loved even in the USSR and they said that they are greedier than the Jews

                  And where did you listen to this?
                  1. 0
                    8 December 2021 10: 28
                    Yes, Russia lives better than the USSR, and it is even more important that Russia began to live much better than the former republics began to live better, especially since they began to live only worse, the only thing that Azerbaijan can do because of oil also began to live better. but Armenia, Moldova, all of Central Asia and their type began to live so "better" that their entire population is here in Russia. But I don’t see Russian guest workers in Georgia, the ruin and other proud republics that fed the cursed acupantafs. can you tell me why?
                    and where did I hear about the population of the ruins?
                    look for proverbs - a Ukrainian was born, a Jew cried, or where a Ukrainian walked, a Jew has nothing to do. these are still Soviet proverbs. but about the ensigns of the Ukrainians in general there are legends (there are just stories about ensigns).
                    and you can not make excuses after you yourself said that you are non-brothers, you ceased to be brothers to me.
                    1. 0
                      8 December 2021 15: 21
                      Quote: just explo
                      yes, Russia lives better than the USSR

                      Have you revisited the TV? Compare the share in the world economy of the USSR and the Russian Federation, for example, the share of the USSR in civil aviation was more than 40%, and now? How many unemployed were there in the USSR? And the homeless? How many beds were there in the USSR, and now? Only about old foreign cars on credit, I don't need to measure the standard of living here.
                      Quote: just explo
                      and even more important here is that Russia began to live much better than the former republics began to live better

                      Like "to spite my neighbor I will frostbitten my ears"? By the way, the Baltics are living much better.
                      Quote: just explo
                      look for proverbs - a Ukrainian was born, a Jew cried, or where a Ukrainian walked, a Jew has nothing to do. these are still Soviet proverbs

                      Yes, you are delusional, in the Kuban I have always said so about the Armenians.

                      Quote: just explo
                      and you can not make excuses after you yourself said that you are non-brothers, you ceased to be brothers to me.

                      And to me your like-minded people - the Nazis were never brothers. It is not in vain that under Soviet rule your associates, of any nationality, were destroyed.
                      PS My wife's grandfather fought with people like you in Western Ukraine, only those Nazis were Ukrainians, and you are probably Russian. It is sad to see that in my country, which defeated fascism, Nazism is raising its head.
              2. +2
                8 December 2021 04: 46
                I don’t remember shouting about "enough to feed" those or those before. As for the Caucasus, you are right, but it is necessary to clarify there, it is about Chechnya. The rest are creaking, but trying to balance. The same applies to Abkhazia and Ossetia. They fed. So what to do? You can't leave people. But this cannot be compared with the post-Soviet shouts and shouts throughout all 30 years about "feeding the Muscovites" that were heard, or rather did not subside from now on. Not a small basis for this is to justify the banal outright theft both at the state level for gas and simply for money and at the local level of medium-sized business, which even Estonians could not stand for, and what was going on along the Russian line, it was worth writing a separate Criminal Code, and not something a couple of articles. What is characteristic is the phrase: "it is not me." Everywhere others are guilty. Not the same Mikola who fills the shed with strapped goods. Another thing is interesting: after all, the population, stripped to the skin, does not get not the hryvnia, but it stubbornly chooses the thieves and accusers of Russia. Well, good health then. Eat ...
      3. -5
        7 December 2021 20: 45
        Not to speak but to receive valuable guidance. Then the inserts about old friends and so on will already be perceived differently.
        1. +2
          7 December 2021 23: 31
          Quote: evgen1221
          Not to speak but to receive valuable guidance. Then the inserts about old friends and so on will already be perceived differently.

          On their own people are not judged...
      4. +8
        7 December 2021 21: 13
        Quote: paul3390
        In general, I sincerely do not understand what you can talk about with mattress mats? Their word is not worth a damn dime. A useless pastime.

        It looks like it. According to some indications, they did not agree on anything serious ... Tomorrow all the Western media will trumpet victory - the terrible Russia was intimidated with hellish sanctions, and it will not attack Ukraine ... And you will not prove to anyone that you were not going to do this. .. According to their cheating rules, you are always the loser ...
        1. Aag
          0
          7 December 2021 22: 20
          "... Tomorrow all Western media will trumpet victory - the terrible Russia was intimidated by hellish sanctions, and it will not attack Ukraine ...."
          IMHO: maybe it's time? -Will be knocking on the keyboard, reuniting Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson (Lugansk, Donetsk, - of course. - and "everyone who wants" to ... Crimea?
          ... Nah! Not subsidized! ... Well, so that the standard of living is ... as in the Russian "outback" (remote suburbs, or, ringing / from frost / Siberia, Far East ...)
          Would they like to ?! It doesn’t matter anymore, we’re done! ...
          1. +3
            8 December 2021 01: 13
            It may be better to raise the standard of living in the "outback", otherwise it feels like you can only live in Moscow and only survive outside the Moscow Ring Road. And with the connected Odessa, life will only get worse. This is how you should not love your citizens.
            1. +3
              8 December 2021 01: 33
              Quote: Secutor
              This is how you should not love your citizens.

              propose to excommunicate Zamkadye from Russia?
              1. -1
                13 December 2021 08: 54
                I propose to start solving internal problems. Even the Chinese put internal affairs first, and then external ones.
                1. 0
                  13 December 2021 09: 25
                  Quote: Secutor
                  I propose to start solving internal problems. Even the Chinese put internal affairs first, and then external ones.

                  China hasn't been involved in big politics for centuries.
                  This is a completely different story.
      5. 0
        7 December 2021 23: 30
        Quote: paul3390
        In general, I sincerely do not understand what you can talk about with mattress mats? Their word is not worth a damn dime. A useless pastime ..


        here - bogey !!!
        ten-dollar prices immediately come to mind, the pension reform, the constitution for yourself, if you are president for seven years, then you can go crazy, etc.
    2. -6
      7 December 2021 20: 49
      Quote: Doccor18
      But no, not even "partners", but "old friends"


      Their Mother should be loved as much as possible by both gamuzom.
    3. +6
      7 December 2021 21: 07
      Looking like old friends and being friends are two very big differences. It's not too bad to bark or snuggle. For all that, Putin and Baiden understand their importance. It’s as if they decide for a rather large area of ​​404, and not a pretense of this misunderstanding.
    4. Aag
      +1
      7 December 2021 22: 02
      Quote: Doccor18
      then "it seems that this is a meeting of old friends who are happy to see each other."

      How lovely. And that's all, enemies are enemies ... But no, not even "partners", but "old friends"

      Sarcasm? Nope? ..
    5. -7
      7 December 2021 22: 04
      On what only sometimes a person will not agree to be considered at least as a friend, and even more so for a long time!
    6. -1
      8 December 2021 12: 55
      They are old friends.
  2. +8
    7 December 2021 19: 51
    And what does the coming day bring us? May God grant you all the best!
  3. +38
    7 December 2021 19: 52
    Its peculiarity lies in the fact that Vladimir Putin and Joe Biden communicate through a special closed communication line, which was not previously used officially at all.

    so this is where 6 km of Norwegian cable went
    1. +8
      7 December 2021 21: 30
      You still have this thought, toss the Norwegians. They will start with boiling water ..)
  4. for
    0
    7 December 2021 19: 53
    Fairy tales are told to each other.
    1. +4
      7 December 2021 20: 10
      Or tales from the crypt. (Sarcasm)
      1. -3
        7 December 2021 21: 03
        your words to God in your ears
  5. +12
    7 December 2021 19: 55
    ... Until now, this line has been used exclusively in a test version.

    So they would say that the closed line is checked in the current mode ... wassat
    Nobody expects anything from this conversation ...
    They will smile at each other and each will remain with his ...
    1. +5
      7 December 2021 20: 15
      - And yet Nadezhda dies last, Vera decided and shot at Love. tongue
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    2. +1
      7 December 2021 21: 10
      Nobody expects anything from this conversation ...
      I disagree. Let it be a virtual but still a personal meeting. They can listen to the opinion of each other not through the "dead phone" of advisers, or even more so from the press.
    3. +3
      7 December 2021 23: 26
      Quote: Mouse
      ... Until now, this line has been used exclusively in a test version.

      So they would say that the closed line is checked in the current mode ... wassat
      Nobody expects anything from this conversation ...
      They will smile at each other and each will remain with his ...

      hi
      Obviously, not everything is going smoothly in the states and they are playing for time (rumor that the new radar system has not been fully tested against hyper sound). Otherwise, they would not have gone to any meetings with us. They would have strangled them in the bud.
  6. -5
    7 December 2021 19: 55
    .Biden greeted Putin with a big smile and a hand gesture

    I would gladly show the "sleepy" half-hand gesture. Even if I had to pay a little. That's real. Or give a pot. Also normal. A sort of "overgrown brawler" your "sleepy Joe").
    1. -7
      7 December 2021 20: 37
      Quote: Kesha1980
      Even if I had to pay a little. That's real. Or give a pot.

      Send him a package of old man's diapers in a parcel. She will come.
      1. -1
        8 December 2021 00: 47
        An obvious "trumpist"! Ay-ya-yay!
        1. -1
          8 December 2021 18: 04
          Quote: Kesha1980
          An obvious "trumpist"!

          Proud Trumpist!

          Quote: Kesha1980
          Ay-ya-yay!

          And what? bully
          1. 0
            8 December 2021 18: 06
            And rightly so!
  7. +5
    7 December 2021 19: 57
    I think that the most important issue for the GDP is Ukraine. The very small fire from which a big fire can break out.
    1. 0
      7 December 2021 20: 06
      Quote: your vsr 66-67
      I think that the most important issue for the GDP is Ukraine. The very small fire from which a big fire can break out.

      yah…
      this 404 will dry up and fall off by itself.
      and in general it was the Americans who were trying to talk, well, let them explain what they wanted, and then we'll see.
      1. +7
        7 December 2021 20: 24
        Quote: den3080
        it will dry up and fall off

        dry lights up quickly and burns hot
        Ukraine is the most important issue for Russia
        1. 0
          8 December 2021 01: 16
          Quote: Flood
          Quote: den3080
          it will dry up and fall off

          dry lights up quickly and burns hot
          Ukraine is the most important issue for Russia

          And it burns out instantly :))
    2. +6
      7 December 2021 20: 16
      Not Ukraine itself, but the crap that it carries in its hysterical Russophobia. After all, the fool understands that there is no Russian aggression against Ukraine and is not planned. This is an artificial problem with ambitious goals.
      I don't believe the 404 leadership wants to fight Russia. The West will not help, and the Pipisyun themselves are not up to such numbers.
      Damn, but fucking break all ties with the independent ones. In general, everything. Do not let the citizens of Zarobitsa in, stop trading, stop everything in general. Even if not for always, even for some period of time. For a year, for two. Let them really live without an aggressor.
      1. +1
        7 December 2021 20: 36
        Damn, but fucking break all ties with the independent ones. In general, everything. Do not let the citizens of Zarobitsa in, stop trading, stop everything in general. Even if not for always, even for some period of time. For a year, for two. Let them really live without an aggressor.

        But this pipisyun is already needed from our side.
        1. -4
          7 December 2021 20: 47
          It seems from our side there is no pipisyun at all. In this regard, at least
          1. -7
            7 December 2021 21: 07
            Alexey, this thing is constantly absent from us, but what if the kids are there in the west?
      2. +5
        7 December 2021 21: 32
        Ukraine has been a hemorrhoid throughout history since the time of Peter the Great. Both political and financial. It would be time to end this "sore" already. So that even the names on the world map are not.
    3. +5
      7 December 2021 21: 15
      I think this issue is also very important for Biden. Judging by the latest statements from decision makers, Washington realized that it would not be able to handle Ukraine and Taiwan at the same time. Before biden, the same is not an easy task, to choose one thing, and freeze the second to the maximum. And it seems that 404yu are going to freeze.
      1. +3
        8 December 2021 00: 11
        Quote: Rusticolus
        I think this issue is also very important for Biden. Judging by the latest statements from decision makers, Washington realized that it would not be able to handle Ukraine and Taiwan at the same time. Before biden, the same is not an easy task, to choose one thing, and freeze the second to the maximum. And it seems that 404yu are going to freeze.


        The US alternates between unsuccessful negotiations with China and Russia. Each time, leaking information that agreed with one of the parties against the other. In the hope that both China and Russia would be inflated so that both would give weakness and make very significant concessions.

        So far, the United States has not succeeded.
        Not sure it's going to happen.

        The United States has a limited time limit to resolve the internal crisis, so they began to insist on negotiations and began to rattle weapons, perhaps negotiations are needed, at least to indicate that we also have weapons.
    4. +3
      7 December 2021 21: 57
      Quote: your vsr 66-67
      I think that the most important issue for the GDP is Ukraine.

      For GDP, Ukraine is not a question at all. He is more worried about the approach of NATO military structures to the borders of the Russian Federation. But the cowboys are running wild. And the smiles are cordial at the meeting, it's just that two cheats with artistic talent met. hi
  8. +5
    7 December 2021 19: 58
    "It seems that this is a meeting of old friends who are happy to see each other."

    Yes, it is so! All this "newspaper" war is exclusively for the internal people. No one is going to fight, especially on the eve of a new round of the global economic crisis, even for the United States it will be a crazy blow to the economy. their problems, noisy the airwaves with this war and moving arrows away from real problems (mortality, covid, economics, etc.) And everyone is happy hi
    1. +4
      7 December 2021 20: 13
      I agree. After the new year, when the prediction of an invasion of Ukraine is not confirmed, sleepy Joe will trumpet his victory over Putin. Say, I wrinkled my forehead and he got scared.
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    1. +12
      7 December 2021 20: 07
      I won't say about Joe, but to call Putin an idiot .... No, I’m not a notorious zaputinet, but somehow it’s worth it more respectfully.
      Id..t cannot be president of the country for 20 years)
      1. +1
        7 December 2021 20: 47
        He has not been for 20 years: there was a "premier's smoke break", after which (albeit with a high probability, but still) it is not a fact that he would have been again.

        In general, the less the "king" prevents the "entourage" from playing, the longer he will stay ... request
        1. +1
          8 December 2021 01: 38
          Quote: Yves762
          in general, the less the "king" prevents the "entourage" from playing, the longer he will stay

          Does this refer exclusively to Russian realities?
          1. -1
            8 December 2021 07: 28
            Nope. It's international.
            1. 0
              8 December 2021 07: 35
              Quote: Yves762
              Nope. It's international.

              yeah, got it
              Lukashenka, Putin, Merkel come to mind from the living monarchs

              well, the rest of the leaders are entirely intractable violent individuals.
              such a dime a dozen all over the world.
      2. -9
        7 December 2021 21: 51
        Do you have a good country under Putin's wisest management?
        1. +5
          7 December 2021 22: 15
          Our country is big and lives in different ways. Kostroma lives roughly like Ivanovo, better than Makhachkala, but worse than Yaroslavl or Kaluga.
          But comparing the time of the beginning of Putin's rule with today, I will say that the country in general lives much better. Problems of course above the roof. Prices are rising, education and medicine are limping, but you never know what ...
          On the other hand, you go out into the street - new houses are being built, people are driving normal cars. As you can not say that we live poorly and puff up from hunger.
          How the country could have lived if Putin had not been at the helm for so many years, you can guess until you lose your pulse. Maybe better, maybe worse. We live as we live. But at least we are not begging anyone for anything. We are doing the best we can.
          1. -3
            8 December 2021 07: 41
            Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
            We live as we live. But at least we are not begging anyone for anything. We are doing the best we can.


            Yeah ... lol
            For the same cars we drive, it is still very noticeable.
            Has AvtoVAZ become a subsidiary of Renault Group, thanks to which it is still alive?
            1. 0
              8 December 2021 08: 34
              Has AvtoVAZ become a subsidiary of Renault Group, thanks to which it is still alive?


              And what's wrong with that? And the Czech Skoda, for example, became the daughter of a German auto concern, and therefore is alive.
              I remember in the 90s the AvtoVAZ plant, like many other enterprises, was regularly idle. And now new frets are flying around like cakes.
              Do you disagree that cooperation is a completely normal and common thing?
              1. -2
                8 December 2021 08: 49
                Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
                Do you disagree that cooperation is a completely normal and common thing?

                And this is not cooperation. request
                This is expansion.
                Western. Yes
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                    1. +1
                      8 December 2021 09: 00
                      Do you want it to be like last time? And it's not a fact that it will turn out exactly as it did last time.
                      1. -1
                        8 December 2021 09: 01
                        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
                        Do you want it to be like last time?

                        Not literally, but essentially ...
                      2. +1
                        8 December 2021 09: 04
                        And there will be nothing. Not like last time, no way. To make a revolution (not a coup, but a revolution) the people must live really bad. Now the overwhelming majority lives quite tolerably and the revolution is not particularly needed by anyone
                      3. -1
                        8 December 2021 09: 15
                        be
                        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
                        And there will be nothing. Not like last time, no way. To make a revolution (not a coup, but a revolution) the people must live really bad.

                        And I have not argued otherwise. request

                        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
                        Now the overwhelming majority lives quite tolerably and the revolution is not particularly needed by anyone.

                        A coup? what
                        He does not need a majority, an "active" minority is enough ...
                      4. +1
                        8 December 2021 09: 18
                        He does not need a majority, an "active" minority is enough ...


                        With regard to Russia, who represents this active minority? Who is the leader capable of leading this minority and making a coup?
                      5. -1
                        8 December 2021 09: 36
                        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
                        With regard to Russia, who represents this active minority? Who is the leader capable of leading this minority and making a coup?

                        Why is there so leader? It doesn't work that way there, does it?
                      6. +1
                        8 December 2021 09: 50
                        How does it work there? In a neighboring country, the Maidan minority staged a coup. You do not seriously think that some Taras and Olena organized themselves and overthrew the legitimate government. Or there were certain forces behind them. Someone organized and directed their actions in the right direction.
                        Spontaneous protests arise spontaneously, but they also end.
                        And I don’t believe in mass “spontaneous” protests. And even more so in spontaneous coups that were not organized by anyone.
                      7. -2
                        8 December 2021 10: 15
                        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
                        You do not seriously think that some Taras and Olena organized themselves and overthrew the legitimate government.

                        They are not.
                        But all sorts of Pinchuk, Kolomoisky, Poroshenko, Bogolyubov, Novinsky and others like that - quite yes; and even if without the cookies of the State Department.
                        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
                        And I don’t believe in mass “spontaneous” protests.

                        what And the miners on the rails in 98?

                        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
                        And even more so in spontaneous coups that were not organized by anyone.

                        Where was it about "... spontaneous coups not organized by anyone" request ??
                      8. +1
                        8 December 2021 11: 43
                        And the miners on the rails in 98?


                        And what are the miners? They sat, shouted, made some noise .... We got the money that they owed them and peacefully resolved. Whom did they overthrow or tried to overthrow?

                        But all sorts of Pinchuk, Kolomoisky, Poroshenko, Bogolyubov, Novinsky and others like that - quite yes;


                        The people you listed do nothing spontaneously. Everything is calculated on the front. All the steps and the intended consequences too. Another thing is that something may not work and go not according to plan. In their case, it happened. Russia intervened.
                      9. 0
                        8 December 2021 18: 13
                        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
                        And what about the miners? ... Whom did they overthrow or tried to overthrow?

                        And then overthrow what ??
                        They wanted money. Earned. And they achieved them.
                        This was an example of a phenomenon - a massive spontaneous protest - in which you, according to your own words above, do not believe.

                        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
                        The people you listed do nothing spontaneously.

                        So what?
                        The bottom line was that such people can; and can even be without "external" intervention.
    2. -5
      7 December 2021 20: 22
      Quote: Ryaruav
      two idiots greeted each other, what kind of friends are they?

      Well, yes, I should have said "aloha" in Hawaiian ...
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    4. -4
      7 December 2021 21: 44
      greeted each other

      How was it necessary? Gamarjoba genatsvale?
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      1. +5
        7 December 2021 22: 25
        Yes, you are dear, it seems that one of those who went ... Well, here you are, minus times ask. No pity))
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  10. +8
    7 December 2021 20: 02
    They will tell each other fairy tales until Biden falls asleep. Here the insidious plan will begin to be implemented. But seriously - IMHO - empty chores in the state house - the contradictions are too great - and the stakes on both sides are too high.
    1. -5
      7 December 2021 20: 14
      and the stakes on both sides are too high.

      Don't worry, the stage script for the modern card ballet has already been written - the main thing remains - the approval of the performers and stunt doubles. We will read tomorrow how bad and stupid they are. They will read tomorrow how theirs puffed up and pointed. Putin scoffs. But! A loud billboard does nothing! Nothing will change, just there will be less Western hysteria about "plans to attack ....".
      Otherwise, exactly what we agreed on was not our "business")
  11. +14
    7 December 2021 20: 06
    Yes, Biden wants to raise his rating. He will tell our president - Do not attack Ukraine! Our will say - And we were not going to! Then in America they will say - Biden threatened Putin and he will not attack Ukraine!) What a young man Biden! Glory USA
    1. +9
      7 December 2021 20: 22
      Quote: Wartop
      Yes, Biden wants to raise his rating. He will tell our president - Do not attack Ukraine! Our will say - And we were not going to! Then in America they will say - Biden threatened Putin and he will not attack Ukraine!) What a young man Biden! Glory USA


      There, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, Sweden are next in line ... They will not have time until the New Year.
    2. +1
      7 December 2021 22: 02
      Quote: Wartop
      Yes, Biden wants to raise his rating.

      At the meeting, 20 ki, ask the GDP for an autograph, and immediately the rating will rise! wassat
    3. 0
      8 December 2021 11: 31
      Yes, Biden wants to raise his rating.

      You apparently are not at all familiar with American realities, for the average American, in general, everything is exactly what happens there on the borders of Ukraine with Russia, an American may not even know where exactly Ukraine is. And Americans are primarily concerned about domestic affairs, their taxes, their prices, etc.

      Here you can read the communication of Americans about this, for example, here
      https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/the-u-s-needs-to-act-against-russian-threat-to-ukraine.935005/
  12. +2
    7 December 2021 20: 07
    A meeting? Fuck ...
    In search of allies, Biden fumbles between China and Russia in the hope of ... There is no faith in the Americans. All my life, some kind of podlyany slip. It is possible to talk, but it makes no sense. What's the bottom line? Will we use Western technologies or will we sell something again?
    1. +1
      7 December 2021 23: 50
      Quote: ROSS 42
      will we sell anything again?

      You, excuse me, again, about what?
  13. -11
    7 December 2021 20: 09
    Biden will advise Putin to return pensions to dear Russians who were stolen from them. Maybe at least Biden will fit in for retirees?
  14. +3
    7 December 2021 20: 17
    They've been talking for two hours. How is grandfather holding up?
    1. +7
      7 December 2021 20: 19
      Which the?........................
      1. +3
        7 December 2021 20: 31
        Quote: sergo1914
        Which the?.......................

        Which one you don’t like anymore? Let me guess!
        1. -3
          7 December 2021 23: 14
          Which one you don’t like anymore?

          As Comrade Stalin once formulated, both are worse!
    2. -4
      7 December 2021 20: 43
      Mountain shooter
      How is grandfather holding up?
      Grandfather in a diaper with a silencer, a microphone nearby is dangerous to shoot. But on Bankova Street, someone sat on a bench in the toilet, now they probably don't sniff cocaine, but eats it with a spoon lol to come to your senses.
  15. -6
    7 December 2021 20: 17
    If the Russian Federation does not seize Ukraine, then the United States will.
    1. +1
      7 December 2021 23: 09
      Quote: GoraN
      If the Russian Federation does not seize Ukraine, then the United States will.

      Do you think he told him so?
      1. 0
        8 December 2021 08: 35
        I believe in it and I know
  16. +4
    7 December 2021 20: 22
    Negotiations are over. Negotiations will now begin Biden leaders of Europe: Biden's first words: Europe, I have achieved peace, for Ukraine.
    1. -1
      7 December 2021 20: 32
      Not ... Right now, Peskov will start to flog us a blizzard. Moreover, in such words that you cannot immediately understand whether it is good or bad.
      1. +5
        7 December 2021 20: 34
        Good news for SP 2 so far.
      2. -2
        7 December 2021 23: 54
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Not ... Right now, Peskov will start to flog us a blizzard. Moreover, in such words that you cannot immediately understand whether it is good or bad.

        Kuleba brings you a blizzard, do not touch our blizzard with your Svidomo hands laughing
        1. -5
          8 December 2021 00: 13
          As far as I understand, your personal blizzard is enough for you. Do not spread to others.
  17. +7
    7 December 2021 20: 32
    The first news came, sanctions against JV 2 were not included in the defense budget. What is interesting for this we promised to send Sisyan to America? wassat
    1. +5
      7 December 2021 20: 36
      Duc we also do not need a war. Let Ukraine first implement the Minsk Agreements in full, and then we'll see
    2. -3
      7 December 2021 20: 36
      Sea options - to extend the same transit through Dill. At the same time, the new German chancellor will calm down ...
      1. +6
        7 December 2021 20: 49
        Let Stolz first buy gas through Ukraine. And the price of gas through JV 1 is very attractive, but I am not talking about JV 2 at all.
    3. +4
      7 December 2021 23: 32
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The first news came, sanctions against JV 2 were not included in the defense budget. wassat

      Directly presented: on the interactive screen of the GDP, in the document editing mode, crossed out the corresponding paragraph (proposal) with red lines regarding the sanctions on the SP-2, in the electronic image of the document "US defense budget", Joe thanked him for correcting errors, and pressing the enter button sent the document to print.
      (SARKAZM with humor)
      1. +3
        8 December 2021 00: 13
        They did not decide in advance at the level of the Foreign Ministry. It remains to fix it on TV. Putin points his fingers 2, and the edge of his hand across the throat. Don't be fidgety, old man, I'm just kidding. Catch a whistle for fright. The conversation was sincere and meaningful. wassat
    4. +3
      8 December 2021 00: 45
      Quote: tralflot1832
      What is interesting for this we promised to send Sisyan to America?

      Rather, on the contrary, they promised to keep it.
  18. -3
    7 December 2021 20: 36
    Peace, friendship, chewing gum, and sanctions are sanctions. Although, by and large, they did not impose sanctions against the Russian people. But the home-grown retaliatory measures hit the pocket of an ordinary worker with a hammer.
    1. -4
      7 December 2021 23: 57
      Quote: Adimius38
      Although, by and large, they did not impose sanctions against the Russian people.

      Are you sho? Were they injected against beavers?
      1. 0
        8 December 2021 09: 45
        I wrote briefly yesterday, I will explain. There is no concept of "Russian people", well, damn it, there is no such people. There is
        Russian citizens
        , there are ethnic groups, Russians, Chechens, Chukchi, etc. There are not even Dagestanis, there are many nationalities lives. This is exactly what I meant by answering.
  19. -1
    7 December 2021 20: 44
    CNN: US is exploring options for evacuating Americans from Ukraine
    The American administration is exploring options for the potential evacuation of United States citizens from Ukraine in case Russia "invades" this country.
    CNN: US is exploring options for evacuating Americans from Ukraine
    Reuters
    This was reported by CNN, citing several sources.

    According to the channel's sources, contingency planning is under the direction of the US Department of Defense.

    Earlier, Ukrainian Defense Minister Alexei Reznikov said that Kiev had asked its allies for additional material assistance, including weapons.

    As previously stated in the Kremlin, Russia is not going to attack anyone.
  20. -5
    7 December 2021 20: 47
    The two current options talked about options.
    Both are worse than they were before.
    Sho, do. The time is ...
  21. +2
    7 December 2021 20: 59
    Quiet in the forest .. Only Zelya does not sleep ... Because tomorrow it will receive ....
  22. +2
    7 December 2021 21: 04
    “One gets the impression that this is a meeting of old friends who are happy to see each other.” (C) As little children, by God! Exactly, that the impression is created, moreover, that has nothing to do with reality. "Old friends", yeah, wait. "Friend" Biden, EPRST. Such friends to the kukan and to the mausoleum.
  23. +4
    7 December 2021 21: 43
    I am writing when the meeting is already over. I will say right away - ... Biden has not yet had time to say goodbye to Putin, and his own people in the United States are already tearing him up for rags. And here is treason !!!! Around the agents of the Kremlin.
  24. +10
    7 December 2021 21: 52
    Hypocrisy ... is an art. Behavior that covers insincerity, malicious intent with feigned sincerity, virtue.
  25. 0
    7 December 2021 23: 16
    "Comrade, I can no longer stand, said the captain to the captain." smile
  26. 0
    7 December 2021 23: 27
    "Warmly greeted each other"...
  27. -5
    7 December 2021 23: 35
    I named him Burisma Joe. I won't anymore. Today I'm not sure if he will recognize his son. So what's left besides a friendly smile and a happy wave of your hand? hi
  28. 0
    8 December 2021 00: 17
    What are US "legal guarantees"? He himself said that the "colleagues" do not keep their word. Some kind of remote "Maltese summit".
  29. +4
    8 December 2021 05: 01
    The current negotiations show that it is time to ban foreign payment systems inside Russia, because they are used as a means of blackmail. Yes, at first it will not be very convenient for those who like to roam around different outlandish countries, but everyone loves money, so they will have to put up with the MIR card.
  30. +3
    8 December 2021 06: 49
    This was not a dialogue. On "Zvezda" it was shown that there was a team of advisers next to Biden.
    1. -1
      8 December 2021 08: 19
      Yes. I also noticed that Putin was alone in the field ... and Biden, as a coward or as an incapable, surrounded himself with assistants ... half of which were controllers ... otherwise, God forbid, something else will blurt out ... that's all. ..- treason ... and they will tear them into rags ... although I read something fresh when Biden had not yet had time to grow up with Putin ... and in the USA they began to tear his own rags into rags ... - treason again !!!!
  31. +1
    8 December 2021 08: 43
    well, what to talk about with this body, if it does not recognize red lines
  32. 0
    8 December 2021 18: 53
    He swore, Volodya, said that we are brothers, so come to me, Biden, I will strangle you in my arms! ))
  33. 0
    9 December 2021 15: 40
    Although not much, their costumes burned out from a warm meeting. It was necessary to extinguish with herring, but better with lightly salted cucumbers. And in the morning sauerkraut.