Head of Munich Security Conference: I don't believe in statements about Russia's impending attack on Ukraine

A gloomy statement for the Ukrainian authorities was made by a prominent German diplomat, head of the Munich Security Conference (MCB) Wolfgang Ischinger. According to Ischinger, there remains a chance for Ukraine to join the North Atlantic military bloc, but this may become the very "red line" for Russia, which will push Moscow to "retaliatory measures."

In an interview with Handelsblatt, Ischinger said that Washington is trying to draw Ukraine and Georgia into NATO. According to him, in order to avoid direct confrontation with Russia, it is worth hinting to Kiev that in the long term, Ukraine should take Finland as a reference point.

Ischinger noted that Finland has a fairly long common border with Russia, while it is not a NATO member and is building constructive relations with Russia.

Ischinger:

Finland is part of the EU, but not NATO. This can serve as a reference point for Ukraine as well.

The head of the IBC pointed out that it is necessary to learn to build a dialogue with Russia. He advised the new German authorities to do this as well.

Ischinger also noted that he does not believe the increasing statements that Russia is going to carry out an attack on Ukraine. According to him, this would be a colossal miscalculation for Russia.

At the same time, Wolfgang Ischinger proposed to conduct a dialogue with Moscow that she "cannot interpret as a sign of the weakness of Germany and the EU." In his opinion, it will not be possible to achieve constructive changes without a dialogue with Russia.

Let us recall that statements about the alleged impending invasion of Ukraine by Russian troops have been the most active lately. They are made either by Ukrainian officials or by reporters in the American media, citing allegedly US intelligence. The Kremlin has repeatedly responded to this with the words that they are not going to attack either Ukraine or anyone else. At the same time, experts expressed the opinion that accusations against Russia in an alleged attempt to attack Ukraine may be connected with the campaign against the commissioning of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline.

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[Victor_B]

There are also adequate politicians in Geyrop.

[Lech from Android.]

There are no adequate ones in politics ... the general European trend is to put pressure on Russia on all fronts for its independent policy.
Russia's security should not depend on Ukrainian Nazis.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lech from Android.

There are no adequate ones in politics ... the general European trend is to put pressure on Russia on all fronts for its independent policy.

There can be no union between Russia and the West, neither for the sake of interests, nor for the sake of principles, we Russians must invariably remember that the principles on which Russia and Europe stand are so opposed, so mutually deny each other, that life alone is possible only at the cost of death. another. (F. Tyutchev)

[Alex777]

And what, in your opinion, is Tyutchev's quote the ultimate truth?
What did he know, what was he doing in politics to take such statements into account?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alex777

What did he know, what was he doing in politics to take such statements into account?

He knew the Germans well, because he had lived in Germany for 20 years.
I believe him. He is right, Europe and Russia are opposite.

[Alex777]

Quote: tihonmarine

He knew the Germans well

Yes. Both wives were German. And he didn't complain.

Europe and Russia are opposite.

He compared Orthodox monarchist Russia with revolutionary Europe. Then yes, there was a lot of controversy.
As in the days of the USSR. Now there are much fewer contradictions.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alex777

Then yes, there was a lot of controversy.
As in the days of the USSR. Now there are much fewer contradictions.

Less, but more with Russia than during Tyutchev's time.
In the days of the USSR, it seems that there were fewer problems, especially in Eastern Europe, and after the collapse of the problem, like a snowball collapsed. I can see it even in Estonia.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

... accusations against Russia of allegedly attempting to attack Ukraine may be related to the campaign against the commissioning of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.

Not "can", but precisely, directly sweeping preliminary accusations of Russia of an attack on Ukraine are connected with an attempt by any means and means to disrupt the commissioning of the SP-2. Perhaps even at the cost of Ukraine's sacrifice. Chance attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the LPNR and Russia's counterstrike VERY great... And Russia itself is not going to attack Ukraine ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

disrupt the commissioning of the SP-2.

In the United States, business takes precedence over politics if money is present. And who has money in the USA.

[Alex777]

Quote: tihonmarine

Less, but more with Russia than during Tyutchev's time.

In addition to the emergence as a hegemon of the States, which were neither heard nor seen at all during Tyutchev's time, no new problems arose.

[Uncle lee]

without a dialogue with Russia, constructive changes cannot be achieved.

The day is clear!

[210ox]

A very sensible proposal. If you want independence so much, there is an example of normal development. But no, sharovarity interferes.

[Grandfather]

Head of Munich Security Conference: I don't believe in statements about Russia's impending attack on Ukraine

duck it is in Ukraine, for "internal use ... well, money off you suckers, shake it off ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 210ox

But no, sharovarity interferes.

I apologize, but maybe Bandera, she did not wear trousers.

[LiSiCyn]

The head of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry called on Britain, Canada and the United States to deploy soldiers in the south and east of the country.

“Equally important, he said, will be the placement of Canadian, US and British soldiers in positions near the front line. United Kingdom, with the guys from the US, in the framework of bilateral platforms, without NATO. Three flags ... should fly in these territories. It will be a good sign to the Russians that you are here, "- said in the statement of The Globe and Mail, which he gave interview with the head of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Oleksiy Reznikov.

[210ox]

How did it help the Georgians? The Amerzians, feeling hot, quickly washed off.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: 210ox

The Amerzians, feeling hot, quickly washed off.

Lochs hope that they will not be abandoned. Naive ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 210ox

The Amerzians, feeling hot, quickly washed off.

And what for the states of Georgia, with its population of 3,7 million people, if the vassals with 37 million were abandoned? So they could fight.

[alex neym_2]

But what about the CONSTITUTION? Or did the current authorities not write it, so it is not necessary to adhere to it?

[Grandfather]

Quote: LiSiCyn

“Equally important, he said, would be the placement of Canadian, US and British soldiers in positions near the front line.

and "pop" them first ...

[Avior]

The status of this conference and its chapter is not entirely clear.

The Munich conference is a private event; the FRG government does not participate in its organization. There are no interstate agreements concluded at the conference and no final declarations are published at the end of the conference.

[Volodin]

Quote: Avior

The status of this conference and its chapter is not entirely clear.

Everything is clear there. Funded by the German government. The participants, to put it mildly, are not the last figures in the world: UN secretaries general, NATO, presidents, prime ministers, foreign ministers of dozens of countries.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Volodin

The participants, to put it mildly, are not the last figures in the world: UN secretaries general, NATO, presidents, prime ministers, foreign ministers of dozens of countries.

I don’t understand those who don’t understand?

[Errr]

From the article in question:

Let us recall that statements about the alleged impending invasion of Ukraine by Russian troops have been the most active lately. They are made either by Ukrainian officials or by reporters in the American media, citing allegedly US intelligence.

What is there to go across the sea, when his homegrown Surkov declares:

And Russia will receive its share in the new global collection of lands (or rather, spaces), confirming its status as one of the few globalizers, as it happened in the era of the Third Rome or the Third International.

[i] Details from AK:
What kind of land this figure wants to "collect" I personally do not understand at all. But it is obvious that with such "gatherers" everything will end up very badly for Russia. It is already good that this wise man was removed from the upper echelons of power.

[Errr]

Surkov's thoughts are more detailed at
https://actualcomment.ru/kuda-delsya-khaos-raspakovka-stabilnosti-2111201336.html
We kindly ask the authorities of the site not to be rude anymore by removing links to the sources cited by the commentator.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Herrr

Surkov's thoughts are more detailed at
https://actualcomment.ru/kuda-delsya-khaos-raspakovka-stabilnosti-2111201336.html

Everything is simple:
Founder and publisher Non-profit organization - Center for Current Politics Foundation (CPC Foundation).

[Grandfather]

What is there to go across the sea, when his homegrown Surkov declares:
And Russia will receive its share in the new global collection of lands (or rather, spaces), confirming its status as one of the few globalizers, as it happened in the era of the Third Rome or the Third International.

with such "friends" and enemies are not needed.

[Errr]

Yeah ... I spoke about the Third Rome and the Third International, but pushed me to memories of the Third Reich.

[Vladimir61]

At the same time, experts expressed the opinion that the accusations against Russia in an alleged attempt ...

There will be no such reason, they will find another, it has been and will always be! Russia is to blame for the fact that it exists, that it does not just rise from the ashes, but, like Vanka-vstanka, gets up and wins. They do not understand what kind of force makes the peoples of Russia unite in difficult times, why Russia, even with a "tightened belt", manages to crawl through the eye of a needle, why traps placed on it turn out to be ineffective.
They will not understand that Russia is indeed a great country, rich in its people, its history, its national culture and morality!

[Pessimist22]

They do not understand that capitalism in Russia is not the same as theirs, they do not understand how 20 million live below the poverty line in the richest country in the world, they do not understand that the communists promised to wait a little and a bright future will come and that Putin has been asking for patience for 20 years now and wait until the onset of a bright future, and now live on 17 thousand rubles and many people believe him, this is not something that they don’t understand, many of us don’t understand this.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Pessimist22

They do not understand that capitalism in Russia is not the same as theirs ...

Yes, I noticed that you have one pattern in relation to Russia! Living in Pavlograd (Kazakhstan), you are like a dove - you flew in, shit and flew away! Have a good flight.

[Pessimist22]

Dear! Pavlograd is in Ukraine, Pavlodar in Kazakhstan, at your age you should at least know geography. I consider myself to be Russian culture, Belarusian by nationality, in Russia no one is waiting for us, despite loud statements and all sorts of programs, when you move you need to start everything with zero, not everyone agrees on such an adventure, so many prefer to stay in their small homeland. But since I believe that the Russians and all the peoples of Russia are my people, I believe that I should act like Korchagin from Ostrovsky's novel "How the Steel Was Tempered"
The most precious thing a person has is life. She is given to him once, and he must live it so that he is not painfully ashamed of the years spent aimlessly, so that he does not burn shame for the despicable and. petty past and so that, dying, he could say: all life and all forces are devoted to the most important thing in the world: the struggle for the liberation of mankind. "

[Vladimir61]

Dear! Pavlograd is in Ukraine, Pavlodar in Kazakhstan, at your age you should at least know geography.

Well, wrinkling can fail, but you can write mechanically, you don’t remember everyone! But, in essence, this does not change! It does not matter, from the Ukrainian Pavlograd or Kazakh Pavlodar, they comment on the "shitty" situation in Russia, the goal and objectives are the same. Brace yourself, you are not the only one!

[Pessimist22]

What are the tasks? I don't care about Putin and his friends! I know how people live in Russia, my sister lives in St. Petersburg, relatives in Omsk, Novosibirsk, Altai, scanty pensions, beggarly salaries from teachers and educators, I wonder what tasks Putin and his team have, if people live like this, maybe they want live like that?

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Pessimist22

What are the tasks? I don't care about Putin and his friends! I know how people live in Russia

Well, if you live well in Kazakhstan? Why not invite your relatives to move in with you? You will all live well!

[Pessimist22]

Because I am an entrepreneur in Kazakhstan, and they work for Putin and his friends.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Pessimist22

Because I am an entrepreneur in Kazakhstan, and they work for Putin and his friends.

Apparently your "relatives" are smarter than you!

[Pessimist22]

Smarter because Putin's friends have been in loans for many years, like half of Russia, and I buy real estate in Russia and Bulgaria for mine?

[Andrey Moskvin]

tsardeneh will scatter

You cannot be understood without a bottle.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Vladimir61

They will not understand that Russia is indeed a great country, rich in its people, its history, its national culture and morality!

today, Russia is "great" only as a raw material resource ... we sell "diesel" to America ... where next? What has become of "greatness"? in kilometers of pipelines?

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Dead Day

today, Russia is "great" only by its raw material resource ...

Excuse me, but I do not understand the martyrs ... The world is great, there is no iron curtain!

[Grandfather]

Quote: Vladimir61

Quote: Dead Day

today, Russia is "great" only by its raw material resource ...

Excuse me, but I do not understand the martyrs ... The world is great, there is no iron curtain!

I was born here, and then I will die, and you, the "common man" can go to all four directions, although, if you are still at the trough, where will you go ...

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Dead Day

I was born here, and then I will die, and you, the "common man" can go to all four directions, although, if you are still at the trough, where will you go ...

It has always been that way. A narrow-minded person can either be rude or threaten, and if he is also a coward in life, then only at a safe distance!

[Grandfather]

Quote: Dead Day

Quote: Vladimir61

They will not understand that Russia is indeed a great country, rich in its people, its history, its national culture and morality!

today, Russia is "great" only as a raw material resource ... we sell "diesel" to America ... where next? What has become of "greatness"? in kilometers of pipelines?

take an interest in at least the sale of "diesel" in the United States.

[Borisych]

Attack, then feed. No, just suicide, gentlemen Banderlog.

[sgr291158]

At least one normal person was found.

[Grandfather]

Quote: sgr291158

At least one normal person was found.

ogrebet right now in full ...

[aszzz888]

Head of Munich Security Conference: I don't believe in statements about Russia's impending attack on Ukraine

In an interview with Handelsblatt, Ischinger said that Washington is trying to draw Ukraine and Georgia into NATO.

Neither add nor subtract - he said everything right !.

[rotmistr60]

without a dialogue with Russia, constructive changes cannot be achieved.

Finally, at least someone began to understand the elementary foundations of building relations between states. That which Russia has been offering for many years and which the EU and the United States do not want to listen to and hear. As for the impending "attack" on Ukraine, so much has been said and negotiated in recent days that it is high time to create a separate section.

[Grandfather]

Quote: rotmistr60

Well, finally, at least someone began to understand

apparently a pension ...

[rusich]

It turns out there are smart and adequate politicians in Europe.

[wow]

In order for Ukraine to become Finland, Ukrainians will have to forget how to STEAL and DEFEAT. Unfortunately, this is not possible. Menalty'c, you know ....