How much should Crimea be recognized as Russian?

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How much should Crimea be recognized as Russian?

"We built, built, and finally built!" This phrase from the cartoon is the best fit for the moment. Less than eight years later, President of Belarus Lukashenko admitted that Crimea is the territory of Russia.

In this regard, many are asking questions and fiercely discussing the topic of who, and to whom, and how this significant event will turn out.



Indeed, in this case, the only interesting thing is why exactly now Alexander Grigorievich decided on such a "desperate" act?

The reactions, by the way, are very different. Someone thinks that Lukashenka “finally got into the general system”, someone - that Alexander Grigorievich received regular preferences in time.

The truth is, in fact, somewhere else altogether. Let's first look at the eternal principle, which was voiced by the ancient Romans. "Who benefits from?" After all, many in our country, in the West, immediately started yelling out loud that it was Putin who bought Lukashenka with giblets, that Putin simply needs someone to recognize Crimea, and so on.

Absolutely not being a fan of Putin, I will absolutely impartially say that in all 7 years that have passed since the return of Crimea to Russia, I cannot cite a single fact that Putin pressed someone with recognition. If there was such a thing at all, it would have surfaced for sure, because it could not but have surfaced. Any deal like "You give us recognition of Crimea, and we have a lot of tasty things for you" would definitely be announced, simply because the topic is more than poisonous.

But - complete silence. And with Belarus itself, no matter what conversations were going on, no one demanded or expected confessions. Admitted - well, not admitted - we will not be upset.

Here it is worth recalling the very first resolution on Crimea, which was 68/262 of 27.03.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX. Yes, it was a high-profile case, but let's remember in more detail who voted and how.

There are now 193 countries in the world that have the right to vote in the UN.

For the resolution, that is, against the annexation of Crimea to Russia, 100 countries voted. This is understandable, USA and satellite minions.

11 countries voted AGAINST the resolution. Seven of them recognized Crimea as Russian, four were simply against the resolution, but they did not dare to recognize Crimea, just in case.

First list:

Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, DPRK (North Korea), Syria, Sudan, Palestine, Afghanistan.

These countries voted against the resolution and recognized Crimea for Russia. The list is, shall we say, very so-so. International outcasts, countries at war, and so on. Something more or less similar to a country - perhaps only Cuba. Everything else is a political slag, on whose opinion nothing depends. Surprise then was caused only by Afghanistan, which was harshly under the American administration, but gave out like this.

Four countries that were AGAINST, but did not recognize Crimea, are also half interesting. Bolivia and Zimbabwe (with which we will now explore space together) and Armenia and Belarus. Our, so to speak, the closest allies.

58 more countries ABSTAINED. There were also quite respectable and strong countries like China, India, Brazil and Kazakhstan. The message was very simple: "we are not interested in your showdown." Probably the most apolitical and honest position in this regard. China and India, we must give them their due, regularly vote against all anti-Russian resolutions, but Crimea is not recognized.

And 24 countries did not vote at all. Probably, these are those who do not know at all where it is - Crimea and why it is necessary to vote on this matter.

So, as you can see, the list of those who recognized Crimea as Russian territory is so extensive that one could simply not look at it. But here everything is simple: seven countries have clearly defined their position, regardless of the entire world community. And some, like Belarus and Armenia, decided to wait. Bargain. Wait for a better moment.

And what, they also voted "against"! So, it seems like we did half a step. Everything is simple with Armenia. They expected Russia to become a shield against Azerbaijan in Nagorno-Karabakh issues. But it didn’t grow together. Russian soldiers did not go to die for Armenian Wishlist, so Crimea remained unrecognized in Armenia, and part of the lands of Karabakh went to Azerbaijan.

To be fair, everything is logical. Either you are an ally and go with the overlord, or ...

And Belarus did even more interesting. For a long time, Lukashenka was reproached for trying to sit on two chairs at once, to be friends in full with both Russia and the West. The fact that Lukashenko tried very hard not to swear to the end with the Europeans and Ukrainians is the same indisputable fact that 7 out of 10 liters of fuel poured into the tanks by the Ukrainian army are made in Belarus from Russian raw materials.

Everyone tried to endure the quirks of Alexander Grigorievich, but Europe was the first to run out of patience. The Ukrainians endured to the last, because they needed cheaper oil products.

As a result, in the summer of 2020, relations between Belarus and Europe began to deteriorate, then Ukraine added its own freaks. And what about Russia? And Russia is nothing.

Indeed, the recognition of Crimea as Russian territory is completely irrelevant in Moscow. Some oppositionists assert out loud that the recognition of Crimea is almost Putin's main dream. Not really. The Kremlin understands perfectly well that the world community will never recognize Crimea as Russian, but will be in a bunch of outcasts, 7 or 8 who recognize it - against the general background, this is not so important. Against the general background, this is not at all critical and not fundamental.

The Belarusian opposition claims that by recognizing Crimea, Lukashenko paid for some very important service to the Kremlin. Actually not very important, because the cost of recognition is frankly very low. Yes, the "deflection" is counted, but it is very doubtful that this will result in some super-great preferences for Lukashenka. Too late.

Another question is that this is just a declaration by the President of Belarus of his future intentions.

In fact, Belarus has plunged headlong into the barrel of European sanctions. Ukrainian-Belarusian relations have deteriorated to the utmost and in fact have become not as important in terms of profit as relations with Russia.

And then, as much as Kiev did to worsen the Belarusian-Ukrainian relations, no one did. One gets the impression that in Ukraine the oil is full of fountains and there is no point in helping the neighbors. Kiev has complicated relations so much with its anti-Belarusian attacks last year, demonstrating its doubts about legitimacy and everything else, that it is not surprising how everything fell apart.

If I were the president of Belarus, I would definitely be offended by my neighbors for the “self-proclaimed”. Probably, Lukashenka also harbored a grudge.

Well, when Minsk ceased to suit the Ukrainians as a platform for negotiations on Donbass, the need for neutrality, which Lukashenka seemed to hold, was no longer needed.

It's time to decide who you are with and who you are for.

I adhere to the fact that a message came to Lukashenka from the Kremlin: Alexander Grigorievich, have you already decided whether you are smart or beautiful? Enough to be torn already!

And here everything becomes clear and in place. Proof of real alliance, not idle talk. Demonstration of the fact that the “bogo-vector”, which Lukashenka so gracefully demonstrated all these years, is over. No, in reality, multi-vector is not bad, and you can and should be friends with the largest possible number of participants in the world community, but ...

But in the world, the overly "windy" is not very much loved and appreciated, is it?

In fact, the fact that the president of Belarus actually asked for a trip to Crimea with the Russian president is just a demonstration of loyalty.

Of course, you will have to pay something for this. It is not for nothing that the Belarusian (and part of the Russian who fled) opposition dispersed abroad is yelling at all voices that it would be nice for Kiev to gather with a formidable force and show Lukashenka where the crayfish winter.

The list of punishments and sanctions is simply staggering: to declare the official non-recognition of Lukashenko as the president of Belarus, to expel the ambassador of the former president of Belarus from Ukraine, declaring him persona non grata. Stop any international cooperation with Lukashenka and his representatives and impose tough economic sanctions.

Yes, but will the opposition gentlemen drive gasoline and diesel fuel for Ukraine themselves?

It is clear that in Ukraine itself no one is yet eager to take action. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba generally said that Lukashenka says a lot, let's see what and how he will do it. That is, in Kiev they decided to wait until Lukashenka flies to Sevastopol.

Yes, when (or if) the president flies to Crimea, and even to a meeting with the Russian president, there will be nowhere to go. It is no longer possible to make a face in the style of "Yes, I just hit the sea." And after such a meeting, Kiev, of course, will stand on its hind legs in full. Even if he does not want to, the authorities will have to stand up, because Ukrainian nationalists will definitely not appreciate such a turn.

Kiev will have to react, but, excuse me, how? Sanctions? Do not make me laugh.

In the first quarter of this year, Minsk and Kiev exchanged goods and services for about $ 1,2 billion, and the trade balance is not in favor of Kiev. Ukraine exported goods and services worth $ 334,2 million, and the import of Belarusian products cost Kiev $ 884,9 million.

And who can scare whom with sanctions?

The termination of supplies of Belarusian fuel is very serious.

The only way Kiev can harm Minsk is to ask for sanctions for Belarus in Europe. Considering Lukashenka’s “popularity” abroad, it may work out. To what extent Brussels is ready to do this today - we will see. But they are not stupid either, they understand that every kick weighed out by Lukashenka from Europe will only throw the Belarusian leader into the arms of Russia.

Most likely, one should not expect great upheavals. Ukraine needs Belarusian gasoline, so if their confessions from Crimea make a show, it will not be very loud. Gasoline is more important than Lukashenka's demonstrations.

And it turns out that everyone will remain with their own people: Lukashenka will confirm his loyalty to an ally in Russian eyes, Kiev stinks in its own style, but the need for fuel and lubricants will do its job, shout angrily and continue. Europe can announce a couple of additional sanctions for Belarus to maintain its reputation and everything will calm down.

The only one who will not receive any profit will be Russia. But this is also normal for us. At least there is nothing out of the ordinary in the current situation. And, seriously, we have more important problems in the country and outside it than counting how many countries recognize us as right in the situation with Crimea.

In any case, as I said, the international community will never recognize the return of Crimea to Russia as legal. And therefore it is not worth paying in full weight for it. This will not add value to Crimea; rather, on the contrary. And if so, then there is nothing.
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  1. +2
    7 December 2021 05: 30
    ... the international community will never recognize the return of Crimea to Russia as legal.

    Well, why never? ... If another "hitler" or "napoleon" materializes, then they can admit it. In exchange for the lives of our guys and tanks, Bolton will compose an "apology note" for Ukraine. In a mild form, such an exchange took place in Syria.
    1. +10
      7 December 2021 05: 46
      I don't see anything good from the fact that Lukashenka finally "recognizes" Crimea as Russian. Why? Because he will only do it out of desperation. I do not see anything good in the fact that they strive for Russia only from originality. Alas, during all this time Russia has not created anything attractive from within itself in order to attract its neighbors and not only them into its "camp". There is nothing attractive in Russia to be surrounded. The minimum wage, which the tsar graciously allowed to increase to 13860 rubles in 2022, which even less than 200 USD cannot attract anyone, like all the other delights of Russian life: nepotism, lawlessness of officials, corruption, galloping inflation, etc. "Novosti", like Look, over there in Ukraine, it’s even worse, nothing but a crooked grin doesn’t cause any of the normal people anymore. Positioning yourself against the background of the very poor is, well, such ...
      1. +2
        7 December 2021 06: 37
        So after all, they do not come to us for a minimum wage, which is $ 200. Gaster-builders receive about $ 1000 from us.
        1. +15
          7 December 2021 06: 51
          Unfortunately, it is the minimum wage that underlies the entire social policy of the state and is a determining factor in the labor market, and indeed in the entire economy and social and social structure. The minimum wage is precisely the PERMISSIBLE limit to which incomes and, in fact, all the well-being of the entire population can be lowered. The size of the Russian minimum wage is a social catastrophe that has led the country and which is deliberately supported by the authorities.
          1. -6
            7 December 2021 07: 26
            Lukashenka was demanded to unite immediately. But being a dictator, this is not part of his plans (to surrender his personal power to someone), so he had to make concessions on Crimea. How many more such "trump cards" does Lukashenka have? A little, but the power over the country must be maintained. But this is for the time being. As the budget of Belarus goes down, Lukashenka will have to go for integration, now he is caught tightly.
            1. 0
              7 December 2021 07: 52
              There is no road to the West for Luka .. Without Russia they will put their teeth on the shelf .. the ideal situation is to put the squeeze on Luka .. but this is not a big "trick", if Luka signs a document on unification, then the West recognizes the document as not legitimate, like Luka himself, but that's all but of course you need to go this way ..
            2. +7
              7 December 2021 08: 34
              Have you appointed Lukashenka dictator? More recently, Trump was declared a dictator. And Adik generally came to power as a result of elections
              1. 0
                12 December 2021 15: 50
                Adik came as a result of the elections and canceled them) And Luka himself recognized himself as a dictator.
          2. -5
            7 December 2021 08: 18
            Change the methodology, sick. There is a kind of abyss between the minimum wage and the average salary in Russia. But a large minimum wage means large fines attached to it.
            1. +8
              7 December 2021 08: 51
              Quote: EvilLion
              Change the methodology, sick.


              Quote: EvilLion
              But a large minimum wage means large fines attached to it.

              Look how you turned it down? Read, so "a true lawyer." PADVA in all its glory, REZNIK in all its facets ...
              We took care of fines for ordinary citizens ... crying And where the minimum wage and the living wage are asserted, WHY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR OWN Wages (Salaries of Officials) to the minimum wage?
              1. -6
                7 December 2021 11: 42
                Do not transfer to officials.

                The minimum wage does not in any way characterize the standard of living of the population. That's just no way. Ukrov has a minimum wage even more than in Russia, but for some reason Ukrainians go to Russia to earn money, and not vice versa.
            2. +5
              7 December 2021 09: 33
              Well, in general, the minimum wage, or the base amount established for calculating fines, according to current legislation, is 100 rubles. this minimum wage that 12 tr - does not apply to her in any way
        2. -8
          7 December 2021 06: 59
          Well, you bent it. And then, the gaster are injecting like the damned.
          1. +7
            7 December 2021 08: 13
            Real numbers. The builder myself, I know what I am writing. "How damn" no one works hard, and how can that be? The brigade left, someone stayed? lol
          2. +4
            7 December 2021 09: 46
            Right now, in a godforsaken mask, I was crawling to work. Where are your gaster? The courtyards are not cleaned.
            Snow fell unexpectedly in December.
        3. +6
          7 December 2021 12: 22
          Quote: Andrey Moskvin
          So after all, they do not come to us for a minimum wage, which is $ 200. Gaster-builders receive about $ 1000 from us.

          And in the regions, how much do ordinary people get? Drivers, teachers, doctors? And food in the regions is more expensive than in Moscow. Or do you suggest everyone to go to Moscow?
          1. 0
            7 December 2021 15: 52
            I am writing from Tyumen. I don't want to go to Moscow. And I am an ordinary person.
        4. +1
          7 December 2021 15: 12
          here will be banned tomorrow in the Russian Federation dollars.
          and cho, will they take home rubles? belay
        5. +1
          8 December 2021 00: 27
          Go to work for this 1000. Love everyone to count who and how much earns, but you won't drive anyone to the construction site ...
      2. -5
        7 December 2021 07: 24
        Quote: Snail N9
        Positioning yourself against the background of the very poor, this is - well, this ...

        good
        ... such inferiority, worse and more cynical than which can only be the recognition as free of the three-day elections and the nullification of the deadlines.
      3. -11
        7 December 2021 08: 08
        Totally agree with you. If Lukashenka presses even harder, he will surrender everything and everyone. Moreover, he will arrange a procession with a portrait of Putin.
        It is also my opinion that the author exaggerates the role of Belarusian fuel in Ukraine. Yes, let's say that it is more attractive in terms of price / quality than others. Good. We assume that the Belarusians "turn off the tap".
        A holy place is never empty - there will be no Belarusian, for example, Romanian or someone else's. A couple of cents more, but this growth is politically understandable. Where will Belarusian refineries start selling fuel? Which one of the environment in which they will stay?
        LAS will be deprived of one more really operating item of income.
        1. +2
          7 December 2021 15: 31
          Bull's-eye!
          Why, what about gasoline Ukraine has been "in the EU" for several years now-
          One liter = 1 Euro (both petrol and diesel). Despite the fact that neither
          salary, pension, or anything at all - very far from the EU
          The exception is this, you know. In my opinion, nothing
          not justified (even if it is fuel due to a hillock)
          Refuel weekly Refueling yes - euro - warm, light
          and flies don't bite. But the staff are usually lame grandfathers,
          and young people with disabilities, i.e. 0,5 minimum wages + pension. Wherein
          they do not last, a month or two and new ones. If you take the gun yourself-
          they are punished (cameras are everywhere). You arrive in the summer - and he with a scythe on the
          lying territory - ragweed mows, that the owner was not fined.
          On another occasion, with a jar and a brush, he straightens the bumpers. In winter
          quite a pipe - snow, ice, and the territory of hoo! By oneself! Girls inside
          are also changing rapidly - cash register, "car shop", vodka, cigarettes, coffee.
          It turns out that I bought the EURO complex - well done, I built it. Petrol
          I brought EURO, I understand. But after all, in the EU, the owner of the gas station is how much
          pays the staff?
          Who's watching? Certified companies or a lame grandfather with a scythe?
          And how much does he pay taxes on full salaries to the budget in the EU?
          And finally, whether it is the fuel itself or not (and ours, oh, how are they)
          So why do you charge a liter like a German? Kharya won't crack?
          And so you are right - there will be no Belarusian -Benya Kolomoisky and
          won't notice. Unless, we will notice on our own pocket.
          Do you need an example? -Two ships with coal for Akhmetov are already in
          They sailed to Odessa! On the other side of the ball ..
      4. 0
        7 December 2021 08: 16
        The USSR created a showcase of socialism from the Baltic republics, and they were the first to secede. So Russia's attractiveness for someone should be the last thing to worry about.

        And change the training manual about the minimum wage, for ukrov it is formally higher, but they live at times worse. Although how do you know in Kievisho.
      5. -2
        7 December 2021 11: 57
        How did you get it already with your minimum wage. In my life I have never received less than 17500 rubles at work. Running as a merchandiser at 17. It was in 2007. And now I get ~ 60 rubles. I repair equipment. 000 days a week from 5:9 am to 30:18 pm on an all-white salary. I get it in my arms. And without any specialized education. And I don't know anyone who would work for such a salary full time.
      6. +6
        7 December 2021 12: 55
        "Novosti", like, look, it’s even worse in Ukraine

        They try not to include the minimum wage in these "news", otherwise the situation is awkward - in Ukraine the minimum wage is 17680 rubles (6500 hryvnia).
      7. +5
        7 December 2021 13: 05
        Alas, during all this time Russia has not created anything attractive from within itself in order to attract its neighbors and not only them into its "camp".


        Many neighbors, first of all, Ukraine, harbor illusions that if they are taken to the EU, they will immediately receive a Polish standard of living, at least, or even just like in Germany. And you ask what now prevents you from living like in Germany, even minimally cleaning up poop after your dogs on the street, in response, at best, silence. It’s bad to say that, of course, but this is some kind of interethnic trait, we want to live like in Europe, but pay taxes like at home, we want corruption to be at the level of Europe, but at any time to be able to resolve issues through a godfather, etc.
    2. +4
      7 December 2021 06: 20
      Well, why never?

      Precisely, the ways of the Lord are inscrutable, yes, and the dog barks, and the caravan moves on ... We have plenty of our own things to do, and the question of recognition or non-recognition by someone of Crimea is not a question of Russia, but their question: they want, they recognize, they don't want to, do not recognize. So what? Crimea from this does not cease to be a part of Russia. Most importantly, Russia recognizes Crimea as its part. And the rest, yes, do not care about them, and, even more so, about the opinion of the Anglo-Saxons and their mongrels ...
      1. +4
        7 December 2021 07: 30
        Quote: The Truth
        Most importantly, Russia recognizes Crimea as its part.

        This is an interesting observation indeed. Indeed, I would like to ask the Russian authorities, which positions Crimea everywhere and everywhere as an inseparable part of Russia: "The residents of Crimea enjoy all rights and freedoms on an equal basis with other Russians, or is there the same equality as between residents of Moscow and residents of Uryupinsk or Prokopyevsk?" belay
        1. -6
          7 December 2021 07: 55
          We have the same laws for the whole country ..
          1. +4
            7 December 2021 07: 57
            Quote: vitvit123
            We have the same laws for the whole country ..

            fellow
            Who told you this? Platoshkin, Bondarenko, or colonels and generals from the Russian Guard? Maybe Serdyukov and Vasilyeva?
            Surely, Chubais ... feel
            1. -6
              7 December 2021 07: 59
              Why should someone tell me this? And what are all these names for? Nonsense...
              Tell me what law does not work in Crimea ..
              1. +2
                7 December 2021 08: 55
                Quote: vitvit123
                Tell me what law does not work in Crimea ..

                WE ARE DEAF TWO TIMES DON'T SERVE - SERVE ONE, AND FAST THAT.
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                Read the messages in the subject ... Type in the search ... Check in person ...
                1. +2
                  7 December 2021 09: 03
                  I like the proverb about mass, but it is not appropriate .. I read the comments and did not find any laws, only words about savings, cellular, etc. .. in response I will tell you, although I doubt that it will reach you! .. I also heard proverbs and in your version I will use the following:
                  A smart one will not go uphill, a smart one will bypass a mountain.
                  It may be clear to you, but it’s unlikely .. and with mass we occupy a mirror position ..
                  There are still many sayings about pets that bang their heads against the gate .. well, I don’t know, maybe it’s clearer for you ..
                  1. -1
                    7 December 2021 09: 05
                    Quote: vitvit123
                    and with mass we occupy a mirror position ..

                    You are confusing mirror illness and mirror position.
                    A STRONG ECONOMIC AND MILITARY STATE DOESN'T NEED NOTHING AND ANYONE PROVE!!!
                    1. -6
                      7 December 2021 09: 11
                      Thank you for seeing in your words an attempt at my humiliation about the disease, but in return I want to tell you, if this worries you so much, you can come to me and I promise you will be satisfied smile .. and if you yourself are worried about it, then what to do is fate, brace yourself ... well, I commented on your flood ... and now where and what did I write about proving to someone?
                      ...
                      1. -1
                        7 December 2021 09: 15
                        Quote: vitvit123
                        Thank you for seeing an attempt in your words.

                        You read the arguments and arguments in my messages, and do not look for black cats in the dark. As for the bovids, I am for you horns the tongue did not pull.
                      2. -3
                        7 December 2021 09: 27
                        There was a white cat and was quite clearly visible ... why do you use the proverb in which you say that I am deaf (i.e. stupid), but I cannot answer you? Your proverb you gave me the right (reached out for the tongue) ... everything is mutual ..
                      3. +3
                        7 December 2021 10: 36
                        No need to be clever with the mountain and the gates, just try to send a money order to Crimea from any country except Russia, I ask you not to name Zimbabwe and others.
                      4. 0
                        7 December 2021 11: 50
                        Why shouldn't I be clever with the gates and with the mountain, when the first man began to clever with the deaf and the mass? Please tell me why I should ignore this ..
                        And what law is violated here, about translations ..
                        and the transfer goes without any problems according to the recipient's details, even from Sberbank - online !! Just search the search engine for how to do it .. waiting for your answer ..
              2. +1
                7 December 2021 11: 47
                Ukrainian "law". Here he is in Crimea for 8 years soon, since he has not been working. lol
                1. -4
                  7 December 2021 11: 53
                  Well, you are not me, you tell my opponents this !!! That's what I'm trying to tell them! You read and understand! Although, if you're kidding, then .., it's still better for my opponents ..
                  1. -2
                    7 December 2021 11: 55
                    And they do not need, they are paid for posts here in pigs.
                    1. -2
                      7 December 2021 11: 56
                      Here I have nothing to say .. maybe.
        2. -10
          7 December 2021 11: 46
          Is this a new training manual? Well, excuse me, if Moscow has high-tech industries, and in Uryupinsk there is only a factory for felting felt boots, then the residents of Moscow will live somewhat better than the residents of Uryupinsk.
    3. +1
      7 December 2021 19: 51
      The question of recognition or non-recognition of Crimea by Russia will disappear only in one case - when the country with the name Ukraine disappears on the map. Will it disintegrate or will fall apart - that's another question. Ukraine has no right to exist because its very existence exposes Russia to an inevitable threat. In fact, we are in a civil war between two parts of the same empire, which has been in crisis since 1991.
    4. +2
      7 December 2021 22: 53
      ... the international community will never recognize the return of Crimea to Russia as legal.
      It all depends on the status of the rest of Ukraine. It will remain "independent", will be divided into parts, and according to what principle, or will it leave Russia completely with or without annexation ...

      If Ukraine as an international legal entity disappears, then the status of its former parts will change. After all, the Crimea before the transition to the jurisdiction of the Ukrainian SSR was in the RSFSR and before that in the Russian Empire. Well, Crimea will be only a small part of the general issue of the reorganization of Ukraine, which, while it is not known how, will certainly happen.
      There are also issues of Donbass and Kiev, in the solution of which the situation is much more complicated.
  2. -8
    7 December 2021 05: 41
    IMHO - Belarus (leadership), they just themselves believed in their propaganda about the decaying west and the power of Belarus, tried to show strength with both Boeing and migrants. It didn't work out.
    Now there is simply no other option but to bow to Russia.

    Now Russia has a dilemma - accepting Belarus - means a further escalation of the conflict with the West, which in the future threatens to turn into North Korea.
    To refuse Belarus - to refuse the title of "gatherer of the Russian land"
    1. -1
      7 December 2021 06: 00
      Escalation with the West is inevitable ... the wolves want to eat there ... and for lunch they want to devour Belarus ... they will end it up with us too ...
      1. -3
        7 December 2021 06: 11
        If you wanted to take on us, they would have turned off the Internet / banks / technologies long ago.
        Again, for me, for the West, Russia in the form of a strong enemy is PROFITABLE.
        You need an image of an enemy, under which you can knock out defense budgets, mobilize the population, etc. etc.
        What good is the hypothetical west of destroying Russia?
        1. +3
          7 December 2021 06: 15
          There is good ... natural resources, land ... remember one American lady said that Russia does not rightfully own Siberia ... I think this slogan is still relevant to the United States.
          1. -4
            7 December 2021 06: 38
            natural resources, land

            Natural resources are cheaper to buy than to conquer and extract.
            For example, America gave oil in the conquered Iraq to Russia. Lukoil produces oil in western Qurna, Gazprom in Badra.
            If the West needs resources so much, why did it give them to Russia?

            And about Siberia and the American lady - here Zhirinovsky also talks a lot, and about washing his feet in the Indian Ocean. Does this mean that Russia wants to conquer India and China?
            In fact, America last seized territory from Mexico, a century and a half ago.
            1. -2
              7 December 2021 09: 36
              Why don't Americans buy the Russian Arctic then? smile., and prefer to claim their rights to it.
              1. -1
                7 December 2021 10: 05
                Why don't Americans buy the Russian Arctic then?

                The striped ones only advocated freedom of navigation.
                According to world law, navigation in territorial waters is permitted.
                Why should they buy navigation?
                I have not heard any claims to the resources of the Arctic.
          2. -2
            7 December 2021 06: 57
            Natural resources


            Apart from Russia, are they not found anywhere else? Moreover, Russian oil is much more expensive than Arab oil, for example.

            land


            The lion's share of which is tundra, permafrost. Most of them are generally unfit for life.
            1. +3
              7 December 2021 09: 38
              And what about logistics, and what about trade routes?
              And then Alaska is also eternal mezlot there ..., nevertheless, the Americans value Alaska and do not give it back to Russia.
              1. -3
                7 December 2021 09: 39
                And then the Arabs run out of oil, where will it be produced in a hundred years?
              2. -2
                7 December 2021 10: 08
                And what about logistics, and what about trade routes?


                What are the trade routes? From the Varangians to the Greeks? There is Suez, there will be the Northern Sea Route.
                Gay Europeans want to seize Siberia and the Far East in order to build infrastructure and logistics in the steppes, tundra and taiga (which will never pay off)? It's funny.

                And then Alaska is also eternal mezlot there ..., nevertheless, the Americans value Alaska and do not give it back to Russia.

                And since the territory is difficult for development, then it is necessary to give it to someone?

                And then the Arabs run out of oil, where will it be produced in a hundred years?


                And Russia has endless oil, apparently. It cannot end.
                ROSNEFT is constantly looking for new deposits, but due to natural circumstances this oil is absolutely unprofitable.

                And who can guarantee that in 100 years oil will have the same meaning as it does now?
                1. 0
                  7 December 2021 10: 31
                  Green energy is a scam for suckers ... oil and in 100 years will be as important as it is now ... the main thing is that it has enough.
                  The unprofitability of production is primarily a question of production technologies ... natural circumstances have nothing to do with ... Norwegians extract their oil in much more difficult conditions on offshore platforms.
                  Why then do the Americans, French, Germans, British, Japanese claim their rights to our territories ... In 1918, everyone rushed to plunder Russia ... they got a little soup now ... they are trying to take possession of the wealth of Russia through the 5th column from the inside.
                  1. -2
                    7 December 2021 10: 45
                    Listen. Compare humanity in 1921 and in 2021. Current technology would have seemed like miracles then. And in 1821 it would be generally considered witchcraft.
                    Now the world is developing and changing very quickly. Therefore, your categorical assessments of the future (especially as much as 100 years) look simply ridiculous.

                    Well? Only Russia has anything to do with it? A decrease in the cost of production and an increase in profitability (a consequence of the development of technologies) will make the same American shale profitable, which will kill oil prices (along with the economy of the Arab Bantustans and the pensions of Russians)
                    And then what? Let's find something else to trade? Or in the old fashioned way: grain, wood, hemp?
        2. -4
          7 December 2021 06: 46
          Quote: SergKam
          If you wanted to take on us, they would have turned off the Internet / banks / technologies long ago.

          Swift is already planned to be turned off in the next sanctions.
          1. -4
            7 December 2021 06: 56
            Swift is already planned to be turned off in the next sanctions.

            Well, they are not planning, but considering in the event of a Russian attack on Ukraine.
            Of course, the "enemy of the state" should not severely damage the image.
            But it should not be destroyed in any case.
      2. 0
        7 December 2021 08: 00
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Escalation with the West is inevitable ... the wolves want to eat there ...

        You also mean those Russian wolves that "got into" the western pack? Or is there an escalation - who needs escalation?
    2. +3
      7 December 2021 07: 40
      Quote: SergKam
      Now Russia has a dilemma

      Russia has no dilemma with regard to Belarus and the West. There should be no strife between Russians and Belarusians.
      These are those - separately taken individuals who have influence on the Russian government, may be puzzled by the problems with the West in terms of living, moving themselves and their capital within the EU.
      As for the collector of Russian lands, in terms of personality there is a free, unoccupied place since the time of I.V. Stalin. To begin with, it would be nice to give a legal assessment of some specific individuals in terms of the quality of service for the good of the Motherland (RF is meant).
      As for gathering, one cannot be guided by the saying:
      We smoke a meter - we throw two.
  3. +6
    7 December 2021 05: 53
    Is it his personal opinion that Lukashenka recognized Crimea, but officially did the Republic of Belarus come up with such a statement?
    1. +8
      7 December 2021 06: 27
      Officially, only Nicaragua seems to have recognized it. The rest recognize de facto, as at the vote in the UN on March 27, when an overwhelming majority of votes adopted a resolution recognizing the referendum on joining Russia held in Crimea on March 16 as illegal. 100 countries voted for this resolution, 58 states abstained, Russia's position was supported by 10 countries - Armenia, Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, North Korea, Nicaragua, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela and Zimbabwe, but even these countries usually have a case before de jure recognition does not reach.
      1. 0
        7 December 2021 06: 31
        Officially, only Nicaragua seems to have recognized it.
        So am I about that.
        1. +14
          7 December 2021 06: 40
          But I would first ask our campaigns (Sberbank and all the others) - did you recognize Crimea as Russian? And only then I would ask this question on the world stage to independent states. With rare exceptions, most of the leading Russian banks, insurance companies, retail chains and mobile operators never entered Crimea. The pro-Russian commentators of the Crimean social networks are angry and unbalanced by this situation.
          Good news for Crimeans - owners of Yandex-money (Yu-Mani) cards! It is no longer possible to withdraw money from ATMs of the RNKB using card data. RNKB terminals also no longer accept them. Whether this is due to the fact that now Poison will completely belong to Sberu is an open question.

          Home harbor says hello!

          My conversation with Sberbank follows the same scenario. Where are you calling from? Sevastopol. Yes, unfortunately, there is no way from abroad to call our toll-free number. Why from abroad? Unfortunately, we do not provide a service on the territory of a foreign country. This is the kind of dialogue I often have. In this regard, the question is: maybe the lawsuit will sober up about bringing to responsibility for violations of the territorial integrity of the country? :)))

          The post of the Crimea is also not the post of Russia !! So they answered that they were out of business! But on the parcels - the tape "Russian Post".
          1. +3
            7 December 2021 06: 47
            But I would first ask our campaigns (Sberbank and all the others) - did you recognize Crimea as Russian?
            but they cannot ... they are not ours.
            1. +3
              7 December 2021 12: 25
              Crimean football clubs are also not Russian, they are Crimean, the Crimean championship is held under the auspices of UEFA, they do not even take part in the Russian Cup. wink Moreover, they do not participate in European international football competitions ..
          2. -11
            7 December 2021 07: 03
            The pro-Russian commentators of the Crimean social networks are angry and unbalanced by this situation.


            Probably hidden Ukrainians.
          3. -2
            7 December 2021 07: 58
            And if Sberbank creates a structure similar to itself, but with a different name and will perform the same functions in Crimea, this will not suit you?
          4. +4
            7 December 2021 08: 28
            Wait, the people will catch up to work and the minutes will fly. They will quickly explain to you that Sberbank is different
    2. +2
      7 December 2021 11: 54
      Quote: parusnik
      Is it his personal opinion that Lukashenka recognized Crimea, but officially did the Republic of Belarus come up with such a statement?


      Earlier (as far as I remember) Lukashenka made opposite statements.
      In the sense of the Ukrainian Crimea, the annexation to Russia is wrong.
      On the state. At the level of the Republic of Belarus, there could probably also be some kind of judicial, by-laws, decisions in the same vein.

      In order to disavow and cancel all past throwing, now we need clear-cut positions on Crimea, at the level of Lukashenko, at the legislative level, at the level of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Belarus. + Visit of an official or an official delegation to Crimea. Then all questions will be removed.

      Lukashenka will most likely play around for a long time and profit on each item.
  4. +7
    7 December 2021 05: 57
    The termination of supplies of Belarusian fuel is very serious.
    Still - half of the fuel consumed by insatiable engines just comes from there, from Belarus. And much more; "Import of Belarusian products cost Kiev $ 884,9 million." It is unlikely that there will be
    ask for sanctions for Belarus in Europe
  5. -4
    7 December 2021 05: 58
    It's abnormal when Russia doesn't get anything out of profit ... we mean we give our allies different buns ... and in return we get beautiful words about friendship, democracy and other verbal husks ... with such a policy we have to end it in the bud ...
    Friendship is friendship and tobacco apart.
    Those countries that support us in difficult times, not in words but in deeds, should be given maximum preferences in our markets ... that's the only way.
    1. +3
      7 December 2021 07: 54
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      It's abnormal when Russia doesn't get anything from profit ...

      Why did this suddenly affect relations between Belarus and Russia?
      Russian citizens also do not receive "profit" (preferences) from the activities of many private entrepreneurs, positioned by representatives of the Russian Federation. Recently, VVP, at a meeting on the consequences of the accident at the Listvyazhnaya mine, read this to Mr. (in a rough abbreviation of this word) Fedyaev, who publicly admitted that apart from the benefits he was not interested in anything, all the more, some preferences in terms of organizing a safe work at an enterprise with harmful and hazardous working conditions. At the enterprise where the miner's earnings (according to someone) exceed a WHOLE 69 rubles.
      1. +4
        7 December 2021 08: 30
        By the way, it’s interesting under Yeltsin it was possible to knock on helmets. And now, if the miners just try to think about a strike, they will quickly be told that they are piled up and the State Department's henchmen ...
        1. +3
          7 December 2021 16: 16
          Because under Yeltsin, oligarchs organized miners' strikes to fight each other with the help of the state, and under Putin, the oligarchs agreed not to do this in order to reduce the likelihood of dying from other oligarchs. Putin is the guarantor.
  6. +2
    7 December 2021 06: 10
    Tired of being out-of-vector A.G. Lukashenko. Yes, and drowned)) for Svidomo earlier quite openly and demonstratively - for which he paid. And almost my own life - isn't it too much to comprehend?
    Less than eight years later, President of Belarus Lukashenko admitted that Crimea is the territory of Russia.
    1. 0
      7 December 2021 13: 07
      Yes, wait for those, Old Man will turn his vector again if he is not satisfied with the prices for oil, gas from Russia and the purchase prices for Belarusian gasoline, fertilizers, milk. It will again buy shale oil from the United States with fervor.
  7. -4
    7 December 2021 06: 34
    Ukraine needs Belarusian gasoline, so if their confessions from Crimea make a show, it will not be very loud. Gasoline is more important than Lukashenka's demonstrations.


    The author underestimates Ukraine. Shooting yourself in the foot is fashionable there.
  8. +3
    7 December 2021 07: 43
    The countries that are friendly to us for the author are rogue countries. Somewhere I have already heard this term. And if, in fact, those who abstained are those who are for us, but against annexations (for it is fraught). The author is a prominent representative of the supporters of the "world community" represented by one country - the United States. The whole article is one-sided - ours.
  9. -1
    7 December 2021 08: 16
    In any case, as I said, the international community will never recognize the return of Crimea to Russia as legal.
    For the world community to recognize the return of Crimea, it is necessary that Ukraine itself recognize this return, that is, a loyal government is needed. Because the recognition of any other country in the world community does not really mean anything, as with the same Kosovo - today they have recognized, tomorrow they have withdrawn the recognition, and so on.
    1. +3
      7 December 2021 08: 32
      And for Ukraine to recognize it, you need a patriotic leadership in the Kremlin. And not a businessman with their irrepressible partnership.
  10. -8
    7 December 2021 08: 19
    Because it's time to finish the Belarusian circus.
  11. +3
    7 December 2021 08: 58
    In any case, as I said, the world community never does not recognize the return of Crimea to Russia as legal.


    It has ALREADY recognized Crimea as part of Russia for more than one hundred years.

    The same community advocates immutability postwar borders, and after WWII Crimea was a part of Russia, and a member of the UN Ukrainian SSR did not have it.
    1. +2
      7 December 2021 10: 30
      and, by the way, there are NO international laws on the need to "recognize" some states of the borders of other states.

      There is, for example, no recognition of US borders by Russia. Etc.

      Borders are determined by neighboring countries by bilateral agreements.
  12. 0
    7 December 2021 09: 36
    And what is it that Crimea is not recognized as Russian? There would be no Crimea, they would have found another reason to put pressure on Russia in order to change the course of our development.
  13. +5
    7 December 2021 09: 39
    The situation in which Alexander Grigorievich was just recently was completely stalemate. Whatever one may say - and so bad, but commercials - even worse.
    However, after the idea of ​​integration and the Crimean recognition, something must still change. Moreover, I am not letting go of the persistent feeling that for Lukashenka, for the better. For, as the ancient Greeks used to say, a deep bow, although it narrows the field of view, sharply expands all kinds of perspectives. hi
  14. -5
    7 December 2021 11: 18
    Not being at all a fan of Putin, I will absolutely impartially say

    You can no longer be completely impartial judging by the beginning of this phrase.
  15. -3
    7 December 2021 11: 25
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Quote: vitvit123
    We have the same laws for the whole country ..

    fellow
    Who told you this? Platoshkin, Bondarenko, or colonels and generals from the Russian Guard? Maybe Serdyukov and Vasilyeva?
    Surely, Chubais ... feel

    Is it different somewhere in the world? Or do you have someone in mind who will make everyone equal?
  16. +2
    7 December 2021 12: 07
    Recognition of Crimea as Russian does not at all mean the burning of bridges for Lukashenka either to Europe, or to Asia, or to Aziopa. And at the other end of these bridges, Lukashenka will open his arms as soon as he feels that it is time to change the vector again.
    Well, the recognition of Crimea by him in Europe will try not to remember how not to remember his advice to Ukraine to fight for its independence to the last Ukrainian.
    He also threatened Russia that she would not even think to step on Belarus, otherwise it would be worse. And does Moscow remember this? I doubt it very much.
  17. +3
    7 December 2021 12: 19
    I cannot cite a single fact that Putin put pressure on someone to confess

    Everything is simple - there is no one to put pressure on! Moving away from us those states that can recognize Crimea (taking into account their own internal political issues) in the event of this very "pressure" or even without it has already become a problem that cannot be overlooked. From the same thing that the Crimea would have recognized, for example, the SAR or Eritrea, no one would have become much hotter. Those few of our allies who are still with us - either recognize the devil himself as an angel, or they will delicately refuse us, and we will, as it were, put it mildly ... we will be satisfied.

    Further, the author lists the countries of the cat. supported the accession and did not support it. It is immediately striking that states with significant ethnic minorities on their territory (the same Kazakhstan or the PRC) did not particularly show off about this - because, frankly, the Crimean precedent is a rather bad thing in terms of the precedent itself. Undoubtedly, the return of Crimea to Ukraine during the Soviet era was a big stupidity, the Ukrainization of Crimea failed, in general, the ties of this region with the Russian Federation were strong, and so on and so forth. However, the precedent itself from the outside is very unpleasant for a number of states - and for our state, it can also be very unpleasant to a WORD, if you think about it. Let's suppose for a second that our country has a "black streak" and again, like in the 90s, nationalist turbulence begins in a number of regions. But this time we have a PRECEDENT and there are well-documented procedures for this precedent - and some ethnic region, even ethno-religious, and even more so with broad "type of cultural ties", for example, with the same Turkey, after all ( region) can what is called and otchuchit. To stir up riots, to quickly roll up a referendum, to mobilize international observers. They will want, for example, in some kind of "Pan-Turkic federation" or in the EU, or in the composition of Lithuania, for example. Or, for example, residents of the same Kuriles will say - well, why nafig him to live in the backyard? What will we do in this case? Let's say epic "BUT IT'S DIFFERENT!" or we'll bring a soldier - that's all our options. From the point of view of the international community BEFORE Crimea, this would not be so unambiguous, but AFTER Crimea it will be nowhere more unambiguous. So the precedent, alas, is dangerous, and many countries around the world that were in no hurry to recognize it seem to understand this. Many have compact ethno-religious regions, no one is particularly eager to wave a white handkerchief to them.
  18. 0
    7 December 2021 13: 57
    Crimea will live without recognition. In general, no one recognizes Ukraine as a serious unit, everyone knows that thieves and beggars. But it still exists, even puts monuments to Bandera.
  19. -2
    7 December 2021 14: 29
    I don’t understand why there are so many words.
    personal wishlist AHL, it's about nothing.
    even if it flies to Sevastopol, then what? Official recognition is different.
    do not look for a black cat in a dark empty room.
  20. -1
    7 December 2021 14: 59
    Almost a hundred posts and no one, including the author
    somehow they don't notice, AFTER WHAT Lukashenka, well
    so, a little crumpled sang to Putin, something about the Crimea.
    AFTER GAS 128! (this despite the fact that immediately "behind Belarus"
    it is 1000!). We are waiting for the second series of the Marlezon ballet -
    Oil at 12,8 - and Lukashenka will go to Crimea on a bike!
    (Give a bike ride Minsk-Sevastopol! With the President
    at the head!).
    Those. Lukashenka will do everything. BUT! Only when
    get what he wants for it! Not by washing, so by rolling.
    1. -1
      7 December 2021 16: 22
      Recognition of Crimea for Lukashenka is a gold and foreign exchange reserve. It looks like it will be exchanged piece by piece. Until he admitted in words, he himself did not go, and officially did not accept anything for recognition.
      1. 0
        7 December 2021 16: 38
        Class! This is the topic! Luke will recognize the Crimea in parts!
        Each administrative unit separately.
        Well this is how many nishtyakov will cut down!
        Jokes aside, but let's face it:
        Luka gas for 128, did he put his beloved in the bathhouse?
        FOR THE PEOPLE! Hey people! Ask the Moldovans how there
        do they have gas? That's it. And you batsku "cockroach", I yay!
        1. 0
          7 December 2021 19: 22
          Today he verbally admitted - gas at 128
          Tomorrow will go - oil on a chervonets.
          Then the law on recognition will take over and get something else.
          1. +1
            7 December 2021 19: 40
            Remember the old American private detective movies
            (Marlowe, it seems, well, something like that) still on cassettes.
            So this Marlowe comes to the hotel - a receptionist, a duvushka, a ficus,
            and in the corner sits a peasant and pretends to read a newspaper.
            The detective comes up to him and asks - Sir, don't tell Johnson
            in which room? He (without looking up from the newspaper) protrudes the index
            finger. Marlowe shoves him a dollar - 345. Don't tell me, sir, he
            in the room now? The finger sticks out again - Marlowe sticks in another dollar.
            -He's been gone for two days.
            How to do business! You have 1-question - from you 1 dollar. You have a 2nd question
            -from you 1 dollar again. And, you pulled out a dummy ($ 2 out of your pocket, down the drain) - so again, just business, nothing personal.
  21. +1
    7 December 2021 15: 23
    The topic of the recognition of the Crimea is pretty boring. If Russians think
    Crimea is our own, so it is so. Don't be like a hero
    famous comedy Famusov, who was very worried about "What will say
    princess Marya Aleksevna. "
    Americans who never really cared about the opinion of this
    the world community itself. And they live well.
  22. 0
    7 December 2021 15: 24
    Mouse fiddling, how interesting. No.
  23. -1
    7 December 2021 16: 00
    Crimea Russian?
  24. 0
    7 December 2021 17: 41
    ... Ukrainian nationalists will definitely not appreciate this turn.
    there will be a good reason to squeeze the Nazis, remembering the sabotage on power lines
  25. 0
    7 December 2021 19: 46
    The gloating over Sberbank, in my opinion, is somewhat exaggerated. How can a resident of the peninsula regret the lack of a service, without which he did well before. For me personally, this caused some inconvenience. before moving to the peninsula, I opened a loan for a million rubles. in this bank. However, repayment of the loan was even a pleasant adventure. my wife and I once a month took a luxurious boat trip to the mainland to write off a loan at the Sberbank branch in the port on the other side. On the ferry, I shared with my wife my way of dealing with the fear of the sea with the help of a small glass of brandy. There were no problems with the transfer of salaries from Moscow, where I worked as an expert for a bit. there are other banks on the ground besides Sberbank.
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  27. 0
    7 December 2021 21: 10
    The novel is energetic as usual ... It is obvious that recognition implies the issuance of certain documents by the government of the respective country. If Old Man spoke and said something there, this is just his personal opinion. This does not mean that Belarus recognized Crimea.
    Also, it is obvious that to recognize it ... is wrong, perhaps, because then it is necessary to recognize the referendum in Ireland and Catalonia and the Kurds, too. There is only one clear position for the legitimization of Crimea: following the results of the Second World War, Crimea is ours. And since the collapse of the USSR was carried out in violation of the procedures provided for, then the sovereignty of not only Crimea, but all post-Soviet states, is questionable. Here is a position that, firstly, does not contradict international law, and secondly, it meets the interests of Russia. Why does Roman not write about this, but in fact is hiding a real way out of the situation with the Crimea?
  28. 0
    8 December 2021 09: 52
    And why not admit ... Ask the Crimeans, and that's all.
  29. +2
    8 December 2021 11: 01
    For me personally, as a resident of Crimea, it is certainly unpleasant that the entire population of the planet denies us the desire to be Russian and live in our country. Fortunately, my neighbors in the farm do not even know about this, because they do not use the Internet. And although the Tatar taxi driver convinced me that everything was better in Ukraine, I did not believe it. I remember what Kerch was like in 2010, where I looked to my parents on the way from the Far East. The streets of the city were deserted and the surrounding roads were broken. Now there is nowhere to park the car because the city is full of new cars. Even my neighbor, who lived in some dense Middle Ages in a Polovtsian house with elements of postmodernism, had a child, received a pension and child support, passed his license and bought an old ten.