Restrictions on the construction of an aircraft carrier removed by South Korean lawmakers

The South Korean Navy is striving to acquire a light aircraft carrier with a displacement of about 30 thousand tons and place vertical take-off and landing aircraft on it, probably F-35 fighters made by the United States (about 20 units).

The Ministry of Defense of the country, having completed the formation of the corresponding program, began to actively promote its idea from the beginning of 2021. As the military hopes, the cost of the ship will be $ 1,74 billion. Development of basic technologies should be completed by 2024, the aircraft carrier is ready for operation in 2033.

The light aircraft carrier will play the role of a moving military base that can strike from anywhere in the world against enemies in the event of an emergency. It will be one of the key national strategic assets

- count on navy.

However, this project was postponed, including due to financial constraints imposed on the military budget. For example, in November 2021, there was another cut in defense spending. But now all the "pitfalls" have been passed.

According to the Ryonghap news agency, lawmakers, represented by the South Korean National Assembly, lifted the previously imposed restrictions and approved the initial budget for starting work on the construction of a light aircraft carrier.

The general process for creating a new ship consists of three stages - conceptual design, basic design and detailed design. The first stage was completed between October 2019 and December 2020.

Comments

[Anarchist]

Why is everyone running around with these aircraft carriers? Moreover, why do Koreans need it? They should protect themselves, but they go there too ...
For the war with the PRC and the DPRK, aircraft carriers are not needed. Purely somewhere in some oil-producing republic to wave the Americans up?

[YOUR]

Why do you think so?

Quote: Anarchist

For the war with the PRC and the DPRK, aircraft carriers are not needed.

[Anarchist]

Because it happened so geographically. The missiles will reach the home port of the aircraft carrier before the aircraft carrier's crew has time to give up the mooring lines.

[YOUR]

Doubtful statement

[Anarchist]

You have not presented any at all.
Do you have your opinion, YOUR opinion?

[YOUR]

What missiles did you decide to drown the aircraft carrier with in the roadstead?

[Anarchist]

That's what I understand - an opinion!
We have a "caliber" that works not only for ground targets, but also for surface targets. "Zircon" is on its way.
For example, the Tu-22 does not need to get too close to hit surface targets. And we have much more of these aircraft than all the aircraft carriers put together on the planet earth. Moreover, our aviation is capable of striking aircraft-carrying groups before they approach the approach distance.

[YOUR]

I don’t understand what does Russia have to do with it?

[Anarchist]

You asked:

Quote: YOUR

What missiles did you decide to drown the aircraft carrier with in the roadstead?

And I live in Mother Russia.
And China also has the means.
By the way, Russia will sell 36 Tu-22MZ aircraft to China.

[YOUR]

Quote: Anarchist

For the war with the PRC and the DPRK, aircraft carriers are not needed. Purely somewhere in some oil-producing republic to wave the Americans up?

However, this is yours.

Quote: Anarchist

Because it happened so geographically. The missiles will reach the home port of the aircraft carrier before the aircraft carrier's crew has time to give up the mooring lines.

And that too. So I had a question why you decided so and what Korean missiles you decided to drown the aircraft carrier with.

[Anarchist]

Chinese. It also says about China. So he added about the Tu-22MZ.
By the way, the DPRK tested its cruise missiles in September. While the South Koreans build the aircraft carrier, the neighbors will take action.

[YOUR]

Fuck !!!!!!!!!!
Tu-22M3 has not been produced since 1993. All production is discontinued. Since 2018, they began to modernize no more. Those. it turns out our valiant leadership, to the detriment of their armed forces, give a couple of regiments of these bombers to China?
Are you sure of this?

[Anarchist]

Such conversations were conducted. However, even if this deal does not happen, then China has its own missiles.
DF-26 is a headache for the USA. They are capable of striking and surface targets.
They also carry CJ-10 cruise missiles. And the anti-ship YJ-12.

[YOUR]

Something started ROK is not worth building an aircraft carrier because the DPRK will sink the aircraft carrier in the roadstead, when asked why for some reason they began to talk about the Russian Federation later about China and it all ended the Chinese threaten the Americans.

[Anarchist]

Quote: YOUR

ended the Chinese are threatening the Americans.

I didn't write that. Wrote:

Quote: Anarchist

DF-26 is a headache for the USA.

And even more so for Korea.

Tired of communication, just write. Otherwise, they did not present their arguments, they did not indicate their point of view. Some questions.
I tried to tell you about the possibilities of China and the DPRK, I don’t know much myself.
All the best to you, YOUR.

[Alex777]

You write amazing things.
The topic of selling to China 36 Tu-22Ms went rotten back in 2013.
South Korea is building an aircraft carrier IMHO because Japan has begun converting its helicopter carriers into aircraft carriers.
South Korea does not need aircraft carriers neither against China, nor against Russia, nor against S. Korea.
And Japan is especially loved by all Koreans and Chinese alike.

[YOUR]

I think that I know a little more about the capabilities of the PRC and the DPRK than you do. The position at one time obliged.
As for the topic, if they are building an aircraft carrier, then for some reason it is needed. At least invest money. Drowning it is not as easy as you think. The Koreans have strong air defense. As a connoisseur, you know very well that they have the KM-SAM ("Cheolmae-2") air defense system. In practice, this is our S-350 and was built with our help. And they have a strong fleet, and since 1980 they have ceased to receive their old stuff from the amerikos, and they are building their own.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Anarchist

Russia will sell 36 Tu-22MZ aircraft to China.

[isv000]

Quote: Anarchist

By the way - Russia will sell 36 Tu-22MZ aircraft to China

One missile carrier is enough for the Chinese - they themselves will copy the required amount ...

[Hiroo Onoda]

Quote: Anarchist

That's what I understand - an opinion!
We have a "caliber" that works not only for ground targets, but also for surface targets. "Zircon" is on its way.
For example, the Tu-22 does not need to get too close to hit surface targets. And we have much more of these aircraft than all the aircraft carriers put together on the planet earth. Moreover, our aviation is capable of striking aircraft-carrying groups before they approach the approach distance.

Can you clarify by what means you are going to detect AUG? And then aim the Caliber at the target? So that the carrier of these same calibers could survive the enemy air raid.

[Anarchist]

There is no desire to communicate with you at all. Get a new account almost every day ... Pure troll!

[Hiroo Onoda]

Quote: Anarchist

There is no desire to communicate with you at all. Get a new account almost every day ... Pure troll!

If you do not want - do not communicate, I cannot force you

[saygon66]

- It may not be necessary to heat at all ... Open the takeoff, but damage the mechanisms that are delicate ... the same elevators! Here is the recovery time and it will go ...

[URAL72]

Doubtful statement

I think that an aircraft carrier is really not needed for the war with the DPRK, the ROK. But for a war with China, it will do. Given the presence of American bases in Korea, it will in any case be dragged into the war. China will not do much against the air forces of the USA, ROK, Japan and Taiwan, and even its "allies" - Canada and Australia - may arrive. Even a couple of squadrons of their outdated Hornets, this is also serious, especially with regard to ships. Together they can provide a "no-fly" zone where aircraft carriers will hang out. China has just a huge number of OTR and MRBM, which will quickly disable most of the enemy's airfields. China's air defense systems (including Russian-made ones) will not allow neutralizing all launchers, and the Chinese have more missile stocks than the "coalition" missile defense capabilities in the region. I am sure that they only need an aircraft carrier against China, which means that it will be built at the request of the "comrades".

[YOUR]

I would not say that RK looks back at his big brother that much. See the armament of the Koreans. Both American and Russian (!!!) and our own design. Moreover, most of the weapons of our own design, including warships.

[Vadim237]

The Region is full of places where there are US military bases, and even in the event of a real conflict with China, they evacuate their bases from South Korea because they are the first to be attacked and destroyed since the distance from China is minimal.

[Vadim237]

It is not doubtful, it is real - the construction of such a ship in South Korea is nothing more than drank the dough in the interests of shipbuilding lobbyists and the military; an absolutely useless combat unit to whom they have gathered with the help of it with this money, it would be much more effective from a defense point of view to purchase South Korea air defense systems such as the Iron Dome and missile defense THAAD shells and missiles of the DPRK.

[Hiroo Onoda]

The missiles will reach the home port of the aircraft carrier

How did you decide that the aircraft carrier would wait for the missiles moored?

[Serg Kam]

The missiles will reach the home port of the aircraft carrier before the aircraft carrier's crew has time to give up the mooring lines.

Why would he stand at the quay wall?
Or are you hinting at Kuznetsov?

[Artyom Karagodin]

If an aircraft carrier is at sea, it is not so easy to bang it there with a rocket. And there are strong doubts that the Koreans will keep their (so far hypothetical) AB at the berth all the time. Plus, there is also a threatened period. What prevents an aircraft carrier from being taken out to sea if it smells of fried?

[Grandfather]

do not care ... purely for the situation .. mighty Russia has no money, then shipyards, then welders ... then something else ... and the Koreans bang and decided .. rzhu.

[Anarchist]

We just have a huge territory, a large army and navy. There is barely enough money for this, among other expenses. Again, the same icebreaker fleet needs to be maintained. The officials also want to eat. And on the maintenance of the aircraft carrier attendants need wow!
The Republic of Kazakhstan does not spend so much money on the army, therefore, they can allocate the loot.
We need a fleet not to wage war in incomprehensible waters, but to defend our own borders. And we have enough airfields.

[Letun]

Well, o5 there is a bunch of excuses why they can, but we can't ...

[VTR-295]

YuK is one of the world leaders in shipbuilding, so they have shipyards, welders, and technologies. Unlike "mighty" Russia

[Yaroslav Zhigulin]

How many APLs were built there?

[YOUR]

Everything happens for the first time.

[Fedor Sokolov]

Because this is so, before acquiring an aircraft carrier, you need to clearly define the feasibility of such an expensive vessel.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Anarchist

Why is everyone running around with these aircraft carriers?

Because since the 40s of the last century, the war at sea without aviation is obviously losing. Operations from aerodromes on the ground are extremely limited and predictable.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Because since the 40s of the last century, the war at sea without aviation is obviously losing.

Since the forties a.c. hasn't changed at all?

[Hiroo Onoda]

The leading role of aviation, by the way, both at sea and on land - has not changed since the 40s, yes. Conquering air supremacy.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Hiroo Onoda

The leading role of aviation, by the way, both at sea and on land - has not changed since the 40s, yes.

But a new branch of troops appeared - missile troops.

[Hiroo Onoda]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Quote: Hiroo Onoda

The leading role of aviation, by the way, both at sea and on land - has not changed since the 40s, yes.

But a new branch of troops appeared - missile troops.

Good kind, I support.
If it were still like in a fairy tale - so that the rockets themselves could find an airplane or ship in the ocean, and aim at it on their own - they would not have had a price. Then I think the time will come when aviation in the whole world will become completely unnecessary.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Hiroo Onoda

If it were still like in a fairy tale - so that the rockets themselves could find an airplane or ship in the ocean, and aim at it on their own - they would not have had a price.

An air wing may not operate from anywhere in the world's oceans. If at least the approximate performance characteristics of carrier-based aircraft are known, it is easy to establish the approximate location of the AUG, then carry out additional reconnaissance, and then attack it with DBK means.
How many sorties will the air wing have time to make? Two? Three?
Do you really think that it is easier to establish the location of a DBK than a whole AUG?

[Hiroo Onoda]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Quote: Hiroo Onoda

If it were still like in a fairy tale - so that the rockets themselves could find an airplane or ship in the ocean, and aim at it on their own - they would not have had a price.

An air wing may not operate from anywhere in the world's oceans. If at least the approximate performance characteristics of carrier-based aircraft are known, it is easy to establish the approximate location of the AUG, then carry out additional reconnaissance, and then attack it with DBK means.
How many sorties will the air wing have time to make? Two? Three?
Do you really think that it is easier to establish the location of a DBK than a whole AUG?

I am 100% sure that it is orders of magnitude more difficult to establish the location of a dynamic target in the ocean (AUG) than a stationary one (DBK), it’s even silly to compare. And we have nothing specifically to carry out exploration and additional exploration at sea. Unfortunately (

[Roma 1977]

In the upcoming big batch for Taiwan, South Korea will have to side with the United States. So they will build an aircraft carrier in a common piggy bank, because they cannot reach the theater of operations from Korea on their own.

[Note]

From South Korea to about. Can't reach Taiwan? there the distance is about 1000 km.

[Serg Kam]

From South Korea to about. Can't reach Taiwan? what there is a distance of about 1000 km.

Total round trip 2 thousand km.
The F35 has enough range if it flies empty.

[Roma 1977]

And all the way you will have to fly in the zone of action of the air defense of China.

[YOUR]

And then we smoothly approached the question of why an aircraft carrier is needed.

[YOUR]

Why fly from South Korea to Taiwan?

[Thrifty]

Well done South Carians, without antimony and rotten demagogy, they solved the problem, or at least actually solved it. They do not imitate vigorous activity, they just create what the country needs to ensure security.

[Roma 1977]

The presence of an aircraft carrier does not in any way affect the security of South Korea. An aircraft carrier is an offensive weapon, not a defensive weapon.

[Alexandr bogun]

Not everyone rushes with them, but only those who have technology and money, or just a lot of money. If you don’t understand so much the gigantic advantage of having, in fact, an airfield with several full-fledged squadrons of multipurpose aircraft (like the same current F-35), which can be deployed almost anywhere in the world where there is sufficient depth for a particular aircraft carrier to move, then you it is better not to speak about this topic at all. With great pleasure, we also built a normal full-fledged aircraft carrier, and not this shame in the form of "Kuznetsov", but there are no full-fledged aircraft carriers of our own, there is no technology either, there is no modern carrier-based fighter, and those who could transfer or sell what is not, at this stage they will not sell us or help us. As a result, we get by with the submarine fleet.

[knn54]

The Japanese infected the RK with the "Aircraft Carrier" virus.

[rotmistr60]

the role of a moving military base that can strike from anywhere in the world by enemies

And in what other parts of the world, besides its neighbor in the north, does South Korea have enemies? And where will this "moving military base" move after construction? Of course, the Republic of Kazakhstan will find $ 1,74 billion and build an aircraft carrier, but what exactly will it do with it, who will carry "democracy" (who would have added it) in other parts of the world?

[Bumblebee]

"They are not preparing for the last war", apparently, there are some calculations and planning. Purely my opinion, I have no connection with the Korean General Staff.

[Alexandr bogun]

Do you think like a woman in the kitchen? And why did the soldier need a horse, why do they buy cars for the army, why BMPs and armored personnel carriers, why strategic long-range bombers? Do you know such a thing as mobility? South Korea is a relatively small state, all airfields are known where and in the reach of almost barrel artillery, the same applies to North Korea. As a result, with the potential destruction of all ground airfields from each other, who will have an advantage over Superstitious Korea, which will remain without aviation at all, or South Korea, which will have 304 full-fledged squadrons of modern multi-role fighters at sea with the ability to strike on the ground? I think the question is rhetorical and understands that the presence of a combat ready and modern aircraft carrier is a huge plus for any country. Plus, the same aircraft carrier will be able to calmly provide assistance to the same Asian Allies in case of need and not only if necessary. Due to the fact that we do not have a normal Aircraft Carrier, this does not mean that they are not needed.

[Vlad69]

Sound the entire list of South Korea's enemies around the world.

[Alexandr bogun]

Korea has allies who may need help and a modern aircraft carrier is not a bad option to provide assistance in case of need. And given that the Americans, Australia and Britain have already created the military alliance AUKUS, it is clear that, in fact, Japan is also there, after all, the 7th US fleet is based on its territory. The same situation with South Korea and the stronger China is, the faster South Korea will be in that AUKUS Alliance. So just the fact that North Korea is an enemy of South Korea, it pulls up China for North Korea, which means that AUKUS and Japan for South Korea. I think even if this is clear to me, then in South Korea there are even more reasons to push so many bucks into something that, in the opinion of many here commenting "as if" is not necessary.

[exo]

HYUNDAI, KIA, Samsung, LG - this is the real strength of Korea. And no aircraft carriers are needed.

[rocket757]

The light aircraft carrier will play the role of a moving military base that can strike from anywhere in the world against enemies in the event of an emergency. It will be one of the key national strategic assets

... Where are you going to climb? Who and where is their interests pinched ???

[faiver]

And what, for someone the discovery that decisions on military issues in Japan and South Korea are made in Washington?

[Alexandr bogun]

And here "where are you going to climb"? And why are we building "Zircons", we are the largest nuclear power with the second most powerful military in the world, also no one in reality attacks, only political movements, but we are building and we need, and they are building in the presence of a real enemy with whom already half a century a situation that can demolish each other at any time. And they do not need the colossal advantage of a military base and an airfield at sea? Do you really ask this question and do not understand, or is it just out of habit, as many here write for the sake of crap other people's achievements?

[Shiden]

Alexander, you will not prove anything to the local lovers of the Motherland, and you know why, because deep down they understand that you are right and your arguments are correct, but looking at the reality of what is happening in the country, they begin to look for an excuse.

[Alexandr bogun]

The question is, why excuses? As for me, problems need to be solved, and not covered up with the fact that "this is our way and we are special")))

[faiver]

Washington said yes and Seoul said eat ...

[Vadim237]

No one says anything to them - they themselves are lobbying and piling military money to build aircraft carriers - the best way to cut the loot in military spending around the world.

[faiver]

No one says anything to them

- Comrade ERovets, consult on this issue at least in the local party organization

[Ilgizl]

The budget allows, new technologies, money is pouring into the real sector, plus a new plane is being built on the sly. Money turns, the economy works, jobs and wages. Plus it will be possible to do it for sale. As if there are more technological and economic advantages. But if the fellows can afford it.