Kuleba: NATO's doors are still closed for us, as the three countries of the alliance perceive Ukraine as an addition to Russia

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NATO's doors are still closed to Kiev, as the three countries of the North Atlantic Alliance perceive Ukraine as an addition to Russia. The road will be open when they change their position.

This "deep" thought was expressed by the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba in an interview with the Latvian portal Sargs.



According to my calculations, Ukraine will join the Alliance when the three capitals of NATO member states change their views on relations with us, finally beginning to perceive it as an independent and independent state, and not as an addition to Russia.

- said Kuleba.

When asked by a representative of the Latvian media about which states the minister had in mind, he said that it would be non-diplomatic to name them. But he believes that these countries will stop considering Kiev from the point of view of their relationship with Russia, and will begin to perceive Ukraine as a sovereign and independent power. Then everything will happen.

Until this happens, not the doors for joining the alliance will be open for Kiev, but the windows for cooperation with it. Thus, if we follow the logic of Kuleba, now Ukraine can only look into these windows and try to be noticed through them.

Ukrainian experts, meanwhile, suggested that we could talk about countries such as Germany, Hungary and Slovakia. Others name Turkey among these countries.

Earlier, NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg said that the countries of the alliance do not yet have a consensus on when exactly Ukraine can be provided with the MAP - a membership action plan, which determines a specific date for the country's entry into the military bloc.
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  1. +15
    3 December 2021 11: 41
    Only Ukrainian politicians are capable of constantly knocking on the tightly closed doors of NATO,
    with pans deeply and tightly set on the head.
    1. +11
      3 December 2021 11: 47
      ... and with deeply low social responsibility !!
      1. +11
        3 December 2021 12: 12
        Quote: Grandfather Mozai
        ... and with deeply low social responsibility !!


        Well, as one Israeli politician said a couple of years ago: "Ukraine is a poor bride who is looking for a rich groom. But instead of marrying her, she is regularly raped."
        1. +2
          3 December 2021 12: 16
          And she is glad = D cucumbers between the rolls are tired, wants overseas croissants!
          1. 0
            3 December 2021 16: 54
            Three countries ...
            When asked by a representative of the Latvian media about which specific states the minister had in mind, he said that it would be non-diplomatic to name them.
            What an impudent person, in the face of the Balts, about the Balts good bully
            1. -2
              4 December 2021 16: 51
              And Kuleba is also a snitch, snitched on Germany, Hungary and Slovakia! laughing
      2. +4
        3 December 2021 12: 42
        NATO's doors are still closed to us

        Well, is it really an obstacle for Svidomo. It is necessary through the back door and you can even without soap! Yes
    2. +6
      3 December 2021 11: 50
      No-oh ... NATO painted a door on a concrete fence and wrote "knock here".
      1. +1
        3 December 2021 12: 29
        Quote: dzvero
        No-oh ... NATO painted a door on a concrete fence and wrote "knock here".

        Where how...
        1. +4
          3 December 2021 12: 33
          Where how...

          And there is such smile
          1. +2
            3 December 2021 12: 37
            Quote: dzvero
            Where how...

            And there is such smile

            I will not run, it will bite!
    3. +2
      3 December 2021 12: 04
      -in the meantime suggested
      Is there such a vaccine that will REALLY help to survive not only Kuleba, but, in general, the entire ZE-power?
      1. 0
        3 December 2021 14: 14
        Quote: knn54
        Is there such a vaccine that will REALLY help to survive not only Kuleba, but, in general, the entire ZE-power?

        KULE-byaku, like ZE-Lenya, should not be treated with a vaccine, but with bloodletting ... According to DUREMAR's recipe, well, as in the movie "The Adventures of Pinocchio":
    4. +8
      3 December 2021 13: 43
      Quote: prior
      Only Ukrainian politicians are capable of constantly knocking on the tightly closed doors of NATO,
      with pans deeply and tightly set on the head.
      It's also cool about the windows:
      ... for Kiev, not the doors for joining the alliance will be open, but the windows for cooperation with it. Thus, if we follow the logic of Kuleba, now all that remains for Ukraine is to look into these windows and try to be noticed through them.
      lol
    5. +1
      3 December 2021 14: 32
      Only Kuleba forgot that Hungary is blocking all initiatives in NATO related to Ukraine precisely because of discrimination against the Hungarian population in Transcarpathia)) the prohibition of teaching in schools in Hungarian)
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    7. 0
      4 December 2021 12: 58
      And since they are not allowed, it means you can make shit under the door.
  2. +6
    3 December 2021 11: 44
    In my opinion, the question of Ukraine's admission to NATO lies on the surface. In which NATO countries did the USSR cut off land in the west for Ukraine. NATO cannot resolve this territorial issue. It must be resolved before Ukraine joins NATO. And they already have such a stub. and will not be needed.
  3. +2
    3 December 2021 11: 47
    Earlier, NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg said that the countries of the alliance do not yet have a consensus on whether
    ... And I wanted the Kukuevs so much, right tomorrow ... it didn’t grow together. And after, after tomorrow, or the "donkey" will die, and the "khan" will surely die.
  4. +4
    3 December 2021 11: 48
    I wonder what kind of countries they are ... logically, this is Hungary (which, by the way, was not invited to the summit of Democracies), Germany - whose elite is still waging an internal struggle for sovereignty, and possibly France, which the Anglo-Saxons “warmed up” well with Australia.
    1. +2
      3 December 2021 11: 55
      Not France, Macron yesterday refused from Novotekovsk money to lend to the Arctic LNG project.
      1. +2
        3 December 2021 12: 23
        Quote: tralflot1832
        .Could have resolved in spite. Rich however.

        The rich may be, but the master's eye will not allow it.
    2. +5
      3 December 2021 12: 46
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      I wonder what these countries are ...

      Yes, there, along the way, all the countries with fright cross themselves and nail up the doors and vents, so that this deranged applicant would not drag them into a real scuffle with Russia. It's one thing to say something with impunity in relation to a big neighbor, and quite another thing to rake on the withers.
  5. +2
    3 December 2021 11: 50
    No one needs war, but these flirting will not end well.
    1. +3
      3 December 2021 11: 55
      Quote: Alexey Sommer
      No one needs war, but these flirting will not end well.

      The United States needs war, but not on its territory and not by its hands. And so she is always welcome.
  6. +6
    3 December 2021 11: 52
    "Three countries" .... - talk about it openly!
    And the rest think ... and are "diplomatically" silent. tongue
  7. +8
    3 December 2021 11: 52
    First of all, the United States views Ukraine as a part of Russia, and therefore is trying to tear it away.
  8. +7
    3 December 2021 11: 53
    In order to be perceived as a sovereign and independent power, you have to behave like a sovereign and independent power. Not like a Washington beggar slave.
    1. +2
      3 December 2021 12: 07
      Quote: paul3390
      Not like a Washington beggar slave.

      "To each his own."
    2. 0
      3 December 2021 12: 21
      Still, the girl has not decided who to give the shalashovka, or rather with a queue of problems, first to the mattresses, then to the Central Europeans, even the Chinese the pro-student winks, to the evil of Russia, everyone must be given!
  9. +2
    3 December 2021 11: 54
    Supplement to Russia, rightly said. Good in Russia, evil in Ukraine. Good always triumphs over evil.
  10. -1
    3 December 2021 11: 56
    What difference does it make to what these pads are squeezing out of themselves? If you continue to pull the bagpipes, sooner or later it will happen, or even more disgusting things will come up. It is necessary to eliminate this boil on the belly of Russia altogether. Isn't it really not clear what exactly Banderstan does not allow Russia to live and develop calmly and normally?
    1. +3
      3 December 2021 12: 21
      Whatever they do, they do not go - business. Zelensky ruined his artistic talent, only Panikovsky can play with his "give a million, give a million, give a million" And people were hoping. But there is another option, to gather your friends on KVN and play a scene called "membership", and what - it turns out, they managed to play the anthem of Ukraine as a member. I am sure that NATO also has some kind of anthem. I am sure that my friends' membership will turn out to be great.
      1. 0
        3 December 2021 13: 14
        hi Put Plus for your "reprise script"! good
        But with the "remark" about the alleged "artistic talent" Zeltsa did not agree - this husky "clown" did not have artistic talent, neither in KVN ("Chaldean talent" is a sycophant, yes, he humbly fawned upon Maslyakov and the jury, even to Putin from the stage "suck"), nor in his "comedies"! No.
        Yes, and it is unlikely that among the "muscle members" of such a "pricked organism" would be found some kind of natural (and not from a set of clown "sado-maso" props) "hardness" for "loud clanging on the piano" ?! what
        IMHO
        1. +1
          3 December 2021 17: 11
          You can tie it, so to speak, a props, although I understand that it is "unsportsmanlike". I am also not sure if any hymn can be played this way. Perhaps this property is exclusively for the melody of the Ukrainian national anthem. But regarding Zelensky, you shouldn't be. All the same, no one thought of playing the anthem of his country, whatever it may be, before him. I wondered what name should be given to this new genre, and did not come up with anything.
          1. -1
            3 December 2021 17: 13
            hi I would call this "specific genre" - "Mudegimniya". wassat
            And Zeltsa has been calling for a long time "mude (zy) edging"(I did not decide on the final version, it was "driving" him while "in the running-in", a short, one-two-syllable, the option is always preferable, but, in this case, it sounds complimentary, almost like Kant, is suitable only in a letter - not in everyday life, although now, even among the "educated" philistines, few people know about Kant!). winked
            Since childhood, I have an "evil tongue", which is often "my enemy", not only to others. Yes
    2. 0
      3 December 2021 14: 40
      Quote: Kamarada
      Is it really not clear what exactly Banderstan does not allow Russia to live and develop calmly and normally?
      So everything, apparently, goes to this. Everyone is tired of Svidomo. Here the GDP will agree with Baida and divide the former territory of the Ukrainian SSR into its component parts, as shown in the picture. Each of the "interested" parties will receive a piece of the pie. They will calm down for a while, maybe. But then they will raise a howl about the “divided Ukrainian people” (and don’t go to the grandmother!) So, here you will think 100 times which is better: just swat it so that it doesn’t smell, or share it with your “partners” so that they don’t whine too much. There are historical examples - Czechoslovakia in 1938. Everyone knows just what it came out of. Do not judge harshly - these are thoughts out loud. Moreover, this "opinion" has already been expressed more than once in EUROPA ...
      AHA.
      1. 0
        3 December 2021 14: 48
        There are options and scenarios. But they also need to be turned into life. And not to sit and wait for the weather from the sea. Maybe it will turn out somehow. It will add up, but not the way we need it. And that there is no strength? , there is strength! ... Why not? but there is no political will. Some concerns and pink snot about guarantees and blah blah blah
  11. +4
    3 December 2021 11: 58
    for Kiev, not the doors for joining the alliance will be open, but the windows for cooperation with it

    Classic. You them at the door - they are at the window.
  12. -1
    3 December 2021 12: 05
    The diplomat of Kuleba is NOT a single mistake! wassat
    Leading European countries perceive the post-Maidan "Ukraine" as an "addition" to the entirely American-Marionette "Euro-members on Euro-subsidies", Polish and Tribaltic limitrophes! request
    Another one, "in the load", similar to the ameromarionette "European member-beggar" they clearly DO NOT need, as if ("at least a carcass, at least a scarecrow" ?!) these Kiev "clowns" did not try to "crawl" there!
  13. +1
    3 December 2021 12: 05
    Germany, France and Italy.
  14. -1
    3 December 2021 12: 06
    NATO's doors are still closed to Kiev, as the three countries of the North Atlantic Alliance perceive Ukraine as an addition to Russia.

    So Ukraine is a part of Russia, it is a part of the West for Bandera.
  15. 0
    3 December 2021 12: 08
    Ukrainian experts, meanwhile, suggested that we could talk about countries such as Germany, Hungary and Slovakia. Others name Turkey among these countries.


    What are the three countries? Apart from the Balts and Poland, no one needs Ukraine in the alliance. And then about the Balts, I doubt it.
  16. +2
    3 December 2021 12: 15
    "Eh, no! Don't rush ..."
    1. +4
      3 December 2021 12: 24
      Quote: Angry Troll
      "Eh, no! Don't rush ..."

      - Such questions, dear ambassador, cannot be solved right away. We need to consult with comrades, stop by for a week.
  17. 0
    3 December 2021 12: 18
    This "diplomat" also "diplomatically" kept silent about the NATO Charter, which stipulates the rejection of states with disputed territories and territories with armed conflicts. But this is the main reason, after fear, to receive cuffs from Putin for getting into our "vegetable garden".
  18. +2
    3 December 2021 12: 18
    ***
    As Vitali Klitschko says:
    - Kuleba diplomat is still the same, anyone for the train will shut up ...
    ***
  19. 0
    3 December 2021 12: 35
    Kuleba flatters himself, well, who wants to mess with idiots? fellow You can expect anything from these raguli, even a knife in the back.
  20. 0
    3 December 2021 13: 08
    Smart leaders of countries don't need banderlogs. They remember the Second World War
  21. 0
    3 December 2021 13: 15
    I was especially touched by the phrase "according to my calculations." Count one-two-three?)
  22. -2
    3 December 2021 14: 06
    There are enough critics in NATO, but they are not so critical that a wild macaque can be launched into the house, at most near the house and then on a leash.
  23. -1
    3 December 2021 15: 05
    Europe, not just 3 countries, will block Ukraine's accession, while this country has war-mongering governments that are trying to drag Europe into a war with Russia. The aggressive policy of Ukraine is contrary to the interests of Europe.

    I would say that 3 is closer to the number of governments inciting war in Europe than to the number of European governments that do not want war.

    (Automatically translated from English. Below is the original commentary in English)

    Europe, not only 3 countries, will block the accession of Ukraine, while this country has warmonger gouvernments, that try to drag Europe in a war with Russia. The Ukrainian aggressive policies are against the interests of Europe.

    I would say that 3 is closer to the number of warmonger gouvernments in Europe than to the number of European gouvernments that want not war.
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  25. 0
    3 December 2021 17: 12
    How tired they are with their statements, every day they show us the same idiots ?!
    Everyone will not calm down in any way!
  26. 0
    3 December 2021 17: 20
    Windows on the 20th floor, jump, jump and don't jump to be seen
  27. 0
    3 December 2021 23: 39
    That Klimkin, that Kuleba, well, right on his face it is written that well, very "intellectual" people!
  28. wow
    0
    4 December 2021 15: 19
    Does Russia need such an idiotic "addition" !?