German press: Funds from Nord Stream 2 will go to the implementation of Putin's "conquest" plans

Putin has concentrated significant forces on the Ukrainian border in preparation for the invasion. He takes funds for his military plans from revenues from the sale of oil and gas, including to Europe. The construction of Nord Stream 2 was a mistake, says Nicholas Busse, author of an article for the German edition of the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.

According to the author, it is not clear now whether there will be an attack by Russia on Ukraine or not, but the fact that Russia has a powerful army capable of capturing a neighboring country is clear to everyone. In addition, he writes, the entire West knows about Putin's "cold-blooded brutality".

According to Busse, NATO will not provide Ukraine with "powerful military" support in the event of a Russian invasion, but the West will nevertheless react by imposing sanctions on Moscow, thereby finishing off the Russian economy, which has already suffered from previously imposed American and European restrictions. This is precisely what Putin fears because he knows the price he will pay for the attack.

At the same time, the West itself finances the Russian threat, says Busse, buying oil and gas from Moscow, and the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline is a huge strategic mistake for Germany, since the funds from it will be used to implement Putin's predatory plans.

The author is not happy that the new German government did not mention Nord Stream 2 in its agreement, thereby confirming its desire to cooperate with the Kremlin, which is destroying the stability and security of Europe by its actions.

The article by the opponent of Nord Stream 2, Nicholas Busse, was commented on by the readers of the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. In the opinion of the majority, the new Russian gas pipeline does not in any way affect the receipt of income by Russia, which, even without it, can receive the same money, pumping gas through the old pipes. The reason for attacks on the gas pipeline is the position of the United States, which wants to push its expensive shale gas into Europe instead of Russian.

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[svp67]

the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline is a huge strategic mistake for Germany, since the funds from it will go to the implementation of Putin's plans for conquest.

Yes, that's right ... after all, the funds received from pumped gas through the GTS of Ukraine to the Russian army can not go as they can

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: svp67

the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline is a huge strategic mistake for Germany, since the funds from it will go to the implementation of Putin's plans for conquest.

Yes, that's right ... after all, the funds received from pumped gas through the GTS of Ukraine to the Russian army can not go as they can

According to their perverted logic, Ukraine can do this. After all, it is not for the West itself to support their army. This is the height of cynicism, they act against us, and we also pay them for this.

[Machito]

What kind of logic can the Euro-fascist heirs of Goebbels have? Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs is too soft on the fascists. It is necessary to tell the Europeans in the eyes that they are fascists.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Bearded

What kind of logic can the Euro-fascist heirs of Goebbels have? Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs is too soft on the fascists. It is necessary to tell the Europeans in the eyes that they are fascists.

It must be said that the whole of Europe during the war years, as a single bloc, like NATO, under the command of the Fuhrer, fought with us. There are no such people in the Foreign Ministry. Liberals talk to liberals in such a way, no wonder.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

The fact that many authors and Western media outlets are Russophobic is not surprising: the State Department is buying up many of them.

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: SKVichyakow

According to their perverted logic, Ukraine can do this. After all, it is not for the West itself to support their army.

And here's what FAZ readers think about this:
Detlef zander

Russia for 2021 is the world's second largest oil supplier to the United States, second only to Canada in terms of oil supplies to America. And what about Russian revenues from these exports - are they not going to Russian military expenditures? And something I have not heard that the US Congress imposed sanctions on American firms that are engaged in these supplies of Russian oil to the United States. It turns out that the United States professes the principle in relation to us: do as I tell you, and not as I do myself.



Marion martha muller

So, the United States is turning on the gas valve for us, although we need Nord Stream 2. We are talking about the dominance of the United States, which wants gas to continue to flow through Ukraine and Belarus. But by paying transit revenues to Ukraine and Belarus through the price of gas, we are participating in financing the weapons programs of these countries. So is the Nord Stream 2 project such a mistake?



Karl valentin

Is Putin financing the war "from oil and gas revenues"? Does Mr. Busse seem to be joking? The whole dispute is about whether the gas will go through the old pipes. Plus about whether it will go through the sovereign countries of Eastern Europe or by sea. But even without Nord Stream 2, Putin will sell the same cubic meters of gas, not one cubic meter less.



Bernhard Weber

Is Nord Stream 2 a strategic mistake? Mr. Busse offers us a common thought, but this thought does not correspond to reality. The source of Russia's “additional income” is not Nord Stream 2, but the demand for oil and gas in Western European countries, especially in Germany. Nord Stream 2 simply reduces transport costs and reduces the risks associated with the behavior of a particular transit country. The current excitement over gas prices stems from the fact that in the Ruhr area (the demographic heart of the Social Democratic Party of Germany), it is not always possible to properly heat apartments.

[knn54]

Nicholas Busse & Co are hoping for a warm winter.

[tralflot1832]

Excellent comment, only they still rely on LNG from the USA, which after regasification will be cheaper than the Russian one.

[poquello]

Quote: tralflot1832

Excellent comment, only they still rely on LNG from the USA, which after regasification will be cheaper than the Russian one.

from what Budun will it be cheaper?

[tralflot1832]

That's exactly what a hangover, but only the Americans can supply gas for the place of our gas from JV 2. When this burgher sees a gas bill from a service company that uses US LNG and a neighbor on the other hand is connected to a Gazprom subsidiary, he will sing differently. Or maybe he is already connected to the daughter of Gazprom, which is why he is so brave.

[Brturin]

winter she came, let's see, but for now - "In total, this year in Britain, due to high gas prices, 27 energy companies have gone bankrupt, serving more than 2 million consumers. https://ria.ru/20211201/velikobritaniya-1761654761.html These are only the British, and if you also look in Europe ... someone is quite good at remaking the market in Europe by "capturing" clients for bankruptcy or removing those whose products become uncompetitive due to high prices for gas (and, accordingly, electricity) .. ...

[Edik]

Quote: BrTurin

These are only the British, and if you still look in Europe ... someone is quite good at remaking the market in Europe by "capturing" clients to bankrupts or removing those

Handsome men? They themselves beat themselves in the liver with their right hand, and this is only the beginning.

[tralflot1832]

The strongest survives, there will simply be very large companies that have long-term agreements with Gazprom and Norway and Novotek. Well, prices will certainly rise, in England there is a powerful social system. It seems that no more than 2200 pounds a year, the price of gas for households can be raised. But the remaining monopolies can be raised. will easily push through the law on increasing fees.

[tralflot1832]

I bastard about Macron, I forbade lending to Mikhelson with Arctic LNG. Napoleon is unfinished. Mechelson is very upset, he will go to receive credits in Russia. Total probably put a bold cross on Macron.

[Brturin]

here you need to look, usually financing of large projects is provided even before the start of work (loans are taken, contracts are concluded), the project has already started, the first line is about 70% ready ... He introduced a ban on new loans, but old credit lines remained (if you touch them , then there are already courts, and usually the law does not have retroactive effect) ... There is a lot of noise, the climate is trending ... but real impact ... if loans are needed there, there will be (the Japanese are involved, the Chinese ...)

[tralflot1832]

It seems like a ban on 8 billion and that amount with Russian banks. Mikhelson foresaw this, during the negotiations he blackmailed the French. As he said, if I turn to Russian banks. The project itself is estimated at 15 billion dollars.

[Brturin]

Funding for such projects is provided in advance ...

"The signed loan agreements with a syndicate of international and Russian banks provide the required volume of external financing for Arctic LNG 2. French financial institutions were not considered as the main ones and were not included in the final group of creditors," Novatek said at https: // ria. ru / 20211202 / novatek-1761922679.html.

There is a lot of noise, they will put a tick for the climate, we are fighting, with the "Russian threat", etc. ... only the exhaust ... made some noise, maybe the Germans were pricked - here we are fighting, and you with SP-2 ... maybe hope deserve the "honor" of an older comrade, they say they will put in a word, put after Merkel "looking after" ...

[tralflot1832]

Novatek has already laughed, the French groom has already been crossed out.

[Brturin]

They don’t want to don’t ... Of those proposals that have been met - to put a customs guard in Murmansk and from the surplus (they promised like only 20% to Europe, the rest to Asia, but it turns out more, they compete with Gazprom and they have benefits) to take to the budget " a little bit "or more ...

[Terenin]

German press: Funds from Nord Stream 2 will go to the implementation of Putin's "conquest" plans

German press, can I ask for a reference to Putin's official plan of conquest?

[Edik]

Quote: Terenin

German press, can I ask for a reference to Putin's official plan of conquest?

Don't you believe? Well, then I'll tell you so,he is

[Terenin]

Quote: Edik

Quote: Terenin

German press, can I ask for a reference to Putin's official plan of conquest?

Don't you believe? Well, then I'll tell you so,he is

If so, then I'll go and raise a stack for the Supreme Commander

[Edik]

Quote: Terenin

If so, then I'll go and raise a stack for the Supreme Commander

I probably didn’t make myself clear!
I made such a joke about unsubstantiated Western politics! You can also trust them by word

[Terenin]

Quote: Edik

Quote: Terenin

If so, then I'll go and raise a stack for the Supreme Commander

I probably didn’t make myself clear!
I made such a joke about unsubstantiated Western politics! You can also trust them by word

Well, I've already drunk!

[tikhonov66]

"... the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline is a huge strategic mistake for Germany, since the funds from it will go to the implementation of Putin's plans for conquest.
..."
- the sale of gas to Germany is a big mistake of Putin, since this gas is used to heat the Russophobic ravings of sick German politicians

[Fisherman]

Exactly! Stop buying gas, oil, coal, methanol from us urgently, don’t produce engines for BMWs from us, don’t collect your cars from us, don’t buy petrochemicals and agricultural products ... and we’ll laugh how you compete with producers who receive gas from us and so on at divine prices! Take LNG and heat it, make fertilizers from it at a price of a couple of thousand euros per thousand cubic meters of gas! You will not even need to be defeated - the Asians will trample you economically then!

[fruc]

N. Busse: ...... and the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline is a huge strategic mistake for Germany, since the funds from it will be used to implement Putin's plans for conquest.

Just not Germany to talk about this, after the transfer of the GDR to the FRG. But they don't want to buy gas - give up and put an end to this. As if they are doing us a favor with their purchase.

[Terenin]

Quote: frruc

As if they are doing us a favor with their purchase.

These scared, that's how they imagine

[Roma 1977]

Accordingly, the gas that Germany will receive through this pipeline will be used to implement the plans of conquest of Chancellor Schultz. And Ukraine, as always, was not given either money or gas for the implementation of its predatory plans. And without plans of conquest, it’s not life.

[prior]

Russia vilely set up Germany.
The gas that came through Ukraine was peaceful and democratic, because it allowed supporting the nationalist Bandera government.
As soon as he begins to enter the SP-2, he automatically becomes aggressive and aggressive.
It is obvious.
Now, the need to support the Ukrainian fascists falls on Germany.
And this is meanness on the part of Russia, to shift from your head to a healthy, German one.

[rusich]

The author of the article of the German edition of the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung Nicholas Busse. Cut off your gas and light at home. and you will not sponsor funds for the implementation of plans of conquest. And you freeze, jump

[210ox]

And this is not a descendant of the same Busse-Commander of the 9th Army of the Wehrmacht. Which did our people bury near Berlin? Phantom pains torment?

[Clear]

Quote: 210ox

And this is not a descendant of the same Busse-Commander of the 9th Army of the Wehrmacht. Which did our people bury near Berlin? Phantom pains torment?

When there is no threat for them, they are all descendants, but when they take it by the throat, then all the namesakes

[210ox]

You know, older people in the GDR used to be asked, "Who did you serve THEN?" The most popular answer is playing in the orchestra ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: rusich

The author of the article of the German edition of the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung Nicholas Busse. Cut off your gas and light at home. and you will not sponsor funds for the implementation of plans of conquest.

Along the way, he has the deepest amnesia because he completely forgot that Germany has been receiving gas for 40 years through the Soviet gas pipeline and 10 years through Nord Stream 1 (since 2011). You might think that Russia used to pay them to take gas, but now suddenly you have to pay Russia.

[Raven 95]

In the opinion of the majority, the new Russian gas pipeline does not in any way affect the receipt of income by Russia, which, even without it, can receive the same money, pumping gas through old pipes. The reason for the attacks on the gas pipeline is the position of the United States, which wants to push its expensive shale gas into Europe instead of Russian.

If the Russian Federation can pump the same gas in the same volume through old pipes, where is the place for expensive shale gas from the United States?
I'm just trying to figure out where the logic is.

[Roma 1977]

Through the old pipes - this is through American Poland and Ukraine, which, if possible, would twist Gazprom's hands, either by limiting the volume of pumping, or by overstating transit tariffs, or simply by tens of billions of cubic meters. And here is a direct pipeline to Germany, breaking the "cordon sanitaire" of the limitrophes, making their existence meaningless.

[Clear]

Quote: Raven-95

Where is the place for expensive shale gas from the United States?
I'm just trying to figure out where the logic is.

You will not find logic, this is pure commerce.

[Terenin]

Quote: Clear

Quote: Raven-95

Where is the place for expensive shale gas from the United States?
I'm just trying to figure out where the logic is.

You will not find logic, this is pure commerce.

JV 2 is also not so easy to squeeze even the United States.
Here is a list of countries (companies) participating in the "SP 2" project

Russia (Gazprom);
Germany (E.ON, BASF, Wintershall, Uniper);
Netherlands and Great Britain (Shell, Wasco Coatings Europe BV);
Austria ("OMV");
France ("Engie");
Czech Republic (NET4Gas);
Finland (Fortum, Wasco);
Switzerland (Allseas AG);
Malta (Pioneering Spirit);
Slovakia;
Norway (Kvaerne)

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Someone about what, and crummy about the bath. The average burgher doesn't care about Putin's "conquest" plans. And they pump it up with this nonsense, pump it up ...
It would seem that SP2 is working and everyone is fine, and for the German burgher in the first place. Stable gas prices, warm houses at a reasonable price, the economy is developing, etc. etc. But no, the German burgher must freeze his ears to harm himself. Chapito pancake.

[red machine]

7 years have already been finishing off the economy ... apparently something in the "finishing" is ineffective

[Vladimir 290]

It is especially interesting to hear from the Germans about "about" the cold-blooded cruelty "of Putin." And in our VO he is scolded for his softness by many

[rocket757]

German press: Funds from Nord Stream 2 will go to the implementation of Putin's "conquest" plans

... Yes, yes, we will arrange a trip to ... to our SIBERIA, for example! There is a lot of business there !!!
In general, they do not sleep, they rave in reality ...

[cniza]

This is a paid journalist and nothing more ...

[rocket757]

Hi
Those guys still have to legalize "bamboo" !!! They will rave without interruption, without departing from ... in short, there will be no withdrawal at all.

[cniza]

Everything goes to the fact that they will soon be legalized ...

[rocket757]

Oh, yes, the greens want everyone to turn green specifically ... and stupid, at the same time.

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

This is a paid journalist and nothing more ...

That's right.

[expert]

Looked at what kind of "journalist" it was ...
52 years old, graduated from the University of Berlin with a degree in Political Economy and Economics of the Southeastern Countries, constantly writes such articles. From 2007 to 2014 he worked as a political correspondent for NATO, in Brussels.
So nothing else can be expected from this "specialist".
The short article, in my opinion, unobtrusive, is called "Putin knows the price."
Just tyaf-tyaf-tyaf ...

[kventinasd]

It is high time to redirect most of the hydrocarbons to the Asian market and not stand on ceremony with this gay union. Let them buy from the Americans and other Cathars there. A month or two will beat them up, they will sing in a different way. And then look how unbelted.

[cniza]

The article by the opponent of Nord Stream 2, Nicholas Busse, was commented on by the readers of the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.

And what is there to comment on, the United States is fully engaged ...

[rocket757]

Yes, the locals are no better there, the politicians certainly sing in unison with the minke whales.

[cniza]

There are some, but it seems to me that most understand everything ...

[rocket757]

We will see who will steer and how.

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

The article by the opponent of Nord Stream 2, Nicholas Busse, was commented on by the readers of the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.

And what is there to comment on, the United States is fully engaged ...

Welcome
Vitya, there is a loss of profit, but for this ... not yet so write.

[Vlad69]

Commenting on such idiots is just a waste of time. Russia pumps gas through Ukraine, and spends money on the war with the latter. Ukraine receives money for transit and spends the proceeds on heroic resistance of the same Russia. Search for logic here, well ... you understand

[Nafanya from the sofa]

Dog barks
The wind wears
And the caravan goes

[opuonmed]

ahahah))))))) so about any one can say))))))))))

[Zaurbek]

So it is ....... alternative - look for gas. This is capitalism.

[wandlitz]

And what, in fact, is the business of this Bussu where Russia will spend its money ...

[Fantazer911]

This N. Busse needs to live in a bed, in frost, without warmth, without warm food, let's see if the Russophobe is not finished for a long time!

[tarakan]

FUCK RUSSIA EUROPE ????
To feed, to drink again?

[Season]

And no one claimed that in Germany everyone was cured of Hitlerism. There are a lot of Germans who regret that the USSR defeated Hitler. PS By the way, there are many such ghouls not only in Germany. There are many of them in the USA, Canada, England. Everywhere, where the Americans evacuated them after their defeat, with the goods plundered by them in the USSR. For them, for everyone, Nord Stream 2 is like sunshine for vampires. Only in Swiss banks, about one hundred tons of gold, which the Nazis "mined" during the Eastern campaign, settled.

[Mr.dimadroll]

According to the author, it is not clear now whether there will be an attack by Russia on Ukraine or not, but the fact that Russia has a powerful army capable of capturing a neighboring country is clear to everyone.

Words that can be expressed on this forum are simply not enough.

[Fitter65]

According to the author, it is not clear now whether there will be an attack by Russia on Ukraine or not, but the fact that Russia has a powerful army capable of capturing a neighboring country is clear to everyone.

The autumn complication gradually turned into a winter one.

[Zomanus]

Even they are all directly obsessed with this Russian attack on Ukraine.
Are they so tired of supporting Ukraine?

[Romanenko]

Quote: "Funds from Nord Stream 2 will go towards the implementation of Putin's" conquest "plans"
Obviously, not in the pocket budget of Zeli the clown

[wow]

As the unforgettable M. Zadornov used to say: ".... stupid, well, stupid ...". it turns out this applies not only to Americans. If Kolya Busse is carrying this blizzard of money, then you can still understand, but if this is still his conviction, then this is already a serious illness.

[1536]

Actually, it's time for the Russian media to say that SP-2 is strengthening the neo-fascist regime in Germany.