Maria Zakharova: Ukrainian Armed Forces pulled half of their personnel into the conflict zone in Donbass

During the briefing, the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova commented on the situation in and around the Donbass. According to a spokeswoman for the main foreign policy department of Russia, Kiev actually signed for refusing to resolve the conflict peacefully.

Maria Zakharova pointed out that today the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues to pull personnel, weapons and military equipment to the line of contact. According to her, to date, half of the entire personnel of the Ukrainian armed forces - 125 thousand soldiers - have been drawn into the conflict zone.

An official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry pointed out that recently, Ukrainian troops are increasingly using weapons in the Donbas that are prohibited from using the Minsk agreements. This once again testifies to the fact that Ukraine has finally renounced its obligations under these agreements. Equipment and troops are not only not withdrawn, their concentration at the contact line is only growing. At the same time, Kiev continues to make accusations against Russia that the RF Armed Forces are preparing an offensive.

Against this background, Zelensky is holding an annual presidential address to the deputies of the Verkhovna Rada. The appeal this year takes place just a couple of days after the words of Vladimir Zelensky about a coup allegedly planned by some forces for December 1-2. During his press marathon, he stated that Russia was allegedly involved in the preparation of the coup and that he allegedly had “sound files” with confirmation. However, there is still no coup, no "sound files" presented. In this regard, the Rada hung posters with questions to Zelensky about when he will stop lying to the Ukrainian people.

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[rusich]

Horror. How many trenches will have to be dug to bury half of the APU. And feed the prisoners. Apparently they wanted the third boiler

[Anachoret]

Then it turns out that this "half" is the entire personal composition)) and the rest are dead souls, on whose behalf the management receives salaries and bonuses))
Zelya breaks off) that it is not yet December 2, but on December 3 the whole country can sing to him in chorus "... don't be bored, watch football ...")))

[El Barto]

“... I got out of the car and saw a spectacle, the meaning of which I didn’t understand at first. It’s either a pit, or a big snowy ravine with a very flat bottom. And on this flat white plane there are huge stacks of firewood. The first sensation is a giant wood storage. And only then I realized: here, at the bottom of the pit, several thousand corpses were piled up, stacked the way firewood is stacked in a well-kept wood storage - streets and alleys.A few hundred Germans piled the dead in neat woodpiles.

I don’t know, but it seemed to me that the very principle of this strange accuracy was not the result of orders from the people who were in charge of this matter from our side - I, in any case, did not see them - but was the result of the own initiative of transporting the corpses of the Germans here. As it turned out, German corpses pulled out from under the ruins of Stalingrad were brought here and put here, so that in the spring, with the beginning of the thaw, the city would not be engulfed in an epidemic, when dead bodies begin to rot and decompose under the ruins.

Here it was subsequently proposed to blow up the slope of the foundation pit and make one large grave. And yet, despite all the Reasonableness of this measure, when we had already got into the cars and drove off and all this again from a distance turned into woodpiles of firewood, I kept looking back, with a shudder ... "
K. Simonov "Different days of the war"

[dorz]

The APU was pulled into the conflict zone ...

How unexpected! Breaks down all the cunning plans, similar in the past to the usual dragging out of time.

[Civil]

Kiev has actually signed for its refusal to resolve the conflict peacefully.

There is a pre-war pumping in progress. A treacherous enemy, lack of the right to exist, dehumanization of a future enemy, an indication of clear superiority, blame for historical events.
Only the casus belli remained. Everything is ready, except for the economy.

[Orange bigg]

Here it is the special monitoring mission of the OSCE. In fact, accomplices.

... The special monitoring mission of the OSCE, which is engaged in identifying the facts of violations of the Minsk agreements in Donbass, was involved in the complicity of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. As it turned out, the OSCE representatives not only did not pay attention to the gross violations of the Minsk agreements by the Ukrainian military, not reflecting the facts of violations of the ceasefire, the transfer of military equipment and shelling of civilians, but also actually gave the Ukrainian military the exact coordinates of the positions of the militia of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics ...

“We know who is executing the criminal order, who is giving it, who is shelling peaceful settlements, but, unfortunately, the impression is that the OSCE does not deliberately indicate this in the reports. If this is not in the OSCE report, then nothing seems to be happening, "- said the head of the DPR.

It is noteworthy that something similar was noticed for the OSCE representatives for a long time. In particular, it was previously reported that literally a few hours after the OSCE SMM visits, the DPR position was subjected to heavy shelling by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

https://avia.pro/news/obse-vydavala-vsu-pozicii-dnr-i-lnr-i-skryvala-v-otchyotah-fakty-obstrelov

[Civil]

If this is not in the OSCE report, then nothing seems to be happening, "- said the head of the DPR.

Yes, exactly - the intermediaries are also on the side of the treacherous and cynical enemy.

[Carat]

Quote: Civil

If this is not in the OSCE report, then nothing seems to be happening, "- said the head of the DPR.

Yes, exactly - the intermediaries are also on the side of the treacherous and cynical enemy.

What are the intermediaries?

The special monitoring mission of the OSCE, which is engaged in identifying the facts of violations of the Minsk agreements in Donbass, was involved in the complicity of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. As it turned out, the OSCE representatives not only did not pay attention to the gross violations of the Minsk agreements by the Ukrainian military, not reflecting the facts of violations of the ceasefire, the transfer of military equipment and shelling of civilians, but also actually gave the Ukrainian military the exact coordinates of the positions of the militia of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics
More details at: https://avia.pro/news/obse-vydavala-vsu-pozicii-dnr-i-lnr-i-skryvala-v-otchyotah-fakty-obstrelov

[Vladimir Mashkov]

The situation is tense. It resembles the beginning of June 1941. Then Hitler also said that his troops were in Poland near the Soviet border for the sake of rest ...

[kostavit]

The same Aviation News website says the opposite: The course of the Kiev regime to dismantle the Minsk process and the actual refusal of Kiev from attempts to peacefully resolve the conflict in Donbass is of serious concern. According to the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine, violations of the ceasefire regime are no longer recorded locally, but along the entire contact line, and in recent weeks their number on some days exceeded the maximums that the mission recorded before additional measures to strengthen the ceasefire regime came into force. of July 22, 2020 ", - said the official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Maria Zakharova. This avia posts conflicting news side by side. I noticed long ago that they are not serious.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Civil

Only casus belli remains

The case will not be behind him.

Quote: Civil

Everything is ready, except for the economy.

The funny thing is that both in our country and in Ukraine nothing is ready, not just the economy. Look at medicine, for example, neither we, nor they have a free bed fund, their own medicines, medical equipment, etc. However, moneybags on both sides want big profits. And the funniest thing here is that all these Abramovichs, Kolomoisks, Akhmetovs, Potanins, etc. as they traded with each other, so they trade. And former Soviet officers are shooting at each other. Only this sad laugh.

[jeka424]

duck it is beneficial to all parties, if they would like to have decided long ago, and how long it is possible to pull everything together for 6 years, they cannot pull everything together, everything does not end

[Civil]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

However, moneybags on both sides want big profits. And the funniest thing here is that all these Abramovichs, Kolomoisks, Akhmetovs, Potanins, etc. as they traded with each other, so they trade. And former Soviet officers are shooting at each other. Only this sad laugh.

So it was suggested that they fight for the Donbass on the streets of Zurich, surround each other with Geliks and Maybachs and fight to the last Swiss franc.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Civil

Kiev has actually signed for its refusal to resolve the conflict peacefully.

There is a pre-war pumping in progress. A treacherous enemy, lack of the right to exist, dehumanization of a future enemy, an indication of clear superiority, blame for historical events.
Only the casus belli remained. Everything is ready, except for the economy.

Well, here Ukraine is held back by the possible reaction of Russia. In 2014, Russia was not ready. It's a different matter now.

. "Until 2014, Russia did not regard Ukraine as a potential military enemy. Accordingly, there were practically no large Russian military units on the borders with Ukraine until 2014. Therefore, the likelihood of an attack on Ukraine in 2014 immediately after the Maidan was purely hypothetical - it was just More precisely, some units could be transferred to the border. But it was more of a demonstration of force. A large-scale offensive is not only equipment and soldiers. This is rear bases, and logistics. This is a whole infrastructure that cannot be created in a couple of months or even The only exception was Crimea, where Russian troops were officially stationed with all their bases and infrastructure. Therefore, it was there, and not somewhere else, that the events began in 2014. But as for the invasion of the Russian army into Ukraine in other regions - Russia was not ready for this in 2014 from a purely military point of view. Ormatsiya that then it was the military of the Russian Federation who were against the invasion of Ukraine, indicating that they were not ready for it at that time, "a representative of the Ukrainian intelligence service told Strana.

But the situation has begun to change since 2015.

It was from this moment that Russia began to create large groupings of troops on the border with Ukraine.

And even then Russian analysts drew attention to this.

Here is what Ruslan Pukhov, director of the Russian Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, wrote in the Vedomosti newspaper in 2016 (we will quote a detailed quote from the article):

“Over the past year and a half, Russia has been consistently assembling an impressive military grouping along the entire length of the border with Ukraine.

In the north of this border in 2015, the 1st Guards Tank Army was recreated, in addition to the "elite" Moscow Region 2nd Guards Taman Motorized Rifle and 4th Guards Kantemirovskaya Tank Divisions, the 6th Tank Brigade in Nizhny Novgorod was also included. the main thing is the new 144th motorized rifle division, the formation of which began in 2016 in the region of Smolensk and Yelnya.

To the south, from Nizhny Novgorod to Voronezh, the command of the almost re-created 20 Combined Arms Army was moved. Its core is now the revived (after disbandment in 2009) 10th Guards Tank Division with headquarters in Boguchar. The entire region of the Kursk, Belgorod and Voronezh regions is actively saturated with troops, including the transfer of two motorized rifle brigades here, and in the future, apparently, another division may be formed here.

Finally, in the Rostov region, since 1989, practically devoid of combined arms units, the creation of the 150th motorized rifle division in Novocherkassk began. Information is spreading about the possibility of creating another army here under the subordination of the Southern Military District with a corresponding further increase in its composition.

The meaning of all these measures is obvious - on the border with Ukraine (where there were no troops at all three years ago), the Russian side is creating three serious groups that, if necessary, can strike in the north in the direction of Kiev (to which from the Russian border through Chernihiv 270 km ), and to the south - to create two powerful "pincers" to encompass and strategically encircle the main grouping of the Ukrainian army on the Left Bank of Ukraine, already shackled on the front line with the self-proclaimed republics in the Donbass.

Ukraine simply does not have (and cannot be created in the foreseeable future due to resource constraints) military forces capable of fending off the blow of these groups and generally resisting a possible large-scale "deep" operation of the Russian side. And this despite the fact that Russia still has significant reserves in the Southern Military District (in the form of two armies - the 49th and 58th) and in the Central and Eastern Military Districts (in which, according to available data, it is planned to form three more divisions ). The rearmament of the Air Force, Air Defense and Army Aviation in the regions "south of Moscow" is also actively underway.

End of quote.

According to our interlocutors in the Ukrainian intelligence service, the process of creating army groupings has, by and large, been completed. And on the borders with Ukraine, as well as in the Crimea, a powerful military infrastructure has been created and large forces of the Russian army are concentrated.

"Now only on the northeastern border with Ukraine there are about 60 thousand soldiers of the Russian Armed Forces. On the southern and eastern flank - in the Crimea and in the Rostov region - about forty thousand soldiers. And this is not counting the" army corps "in the so-called" republics "in the Donbass. But these numbers are floating - there is a constant rotation and replenishment. During the spring maneuvers, part of the Russian troops and equipment transferred from other regions remained at the border. And now the constant consolidation and strengthening of these groups continues," the source said. "Country".

But he makes an important clarification. From a military point of view, what is happening is incorrect to call the formation of an "invasion group."

“Troops are not being deployed with the aim of striking Ukraine for a month or two, as it is publicly served in our country. Troops are being transferred to new places of their permanent deployment. Previously, Russian troops did not have places of permanent deployment on the border with Ukraine. Now they do. large forces are concentrated there. And they may be there for years and decades. They may never be involved. Or they may go on the offensive against Ukraine. The infrastructure is ready for this. It all depends on the decision of the political leadership of Russia, "says intelligence source.

https://m.zen.yandex.ru/media/gazetastrana/udarnye-gruppirovki-i-klesci-chto-govoriat-v-razvedke-ukrainy-o-voiskah-rosii-na-granicah-61a6188df808e423bba45d78

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: OrangeBigg

In 2014, Russia was not ready; it is a different matter now.

And that since then our economy has grown, the well-being of the population has improved, the bed capacity has increased, have we "substituted import" at the end? What has really changed is the level of trust in the ruling party, United Russia, and the level of trust in the president. Do you think that the "small victorious war" will improve the ratings of the authorities?

[Alexey Khodakovich]

RUSSIA OPPOSES NATO ON ITS WESTERN FRONTIERS AND IS NOT TO BE TOUGHT THAT UKRAINE IS STILL THERE. UGH ON THEM !!!

[Maz]

Every nation deserves the government that runs it.Judging by Ukraine, it cannot jump above the clown-president, except that the next manager of the US and Israeli colony will be chosen straight from the Kiev psychiatric hospital ..

[Alex777]

And in Ukraine, with proper examination, the entire command staff
Maidan can be safely sent to a psychiatric hospital for their "exploits".
The column can be led by the "commandant" with Parubiy's help.

[Ros 56]

Yes, fuck to dig, they will drive the earth-moving machine, it will quickly dig a trench.

[Curious Katya]

Quote: rusich

Apparently they wanted the third boiler

wake up, colleague, the third has been around for a long time
even if we count only large

[Runner2022]

They will not calm down - ordinary peaceful workers of Donbass will arrange another boiler for them, and the survivors will be led in front of the irrigation machines. And this is without options.

[fruc]

... concentration at the line of demarcation is only growing. At the same time, Kiev continues to make accusations against Russia that the RF Armed Forces are preparing an offensive.

Why did the Armed Forces decide that they were preparing an offensive on the line of demarcation? Just today, exercises suddenly began in the Southern Military District. The length of the border is over 125 km.

[NDR-791]

Quote: frruc

And why did the Armed Forces decide that they were preparing an offensive on the line of contact, 125 thousand military units were pulled together, thereby exposing other areas

And who said that the offensive ???))) It is more convenient to surrender this way. Organized, in one place, by a friendly military collective, with songs

[Thrifty]

"Sound files" he did not record in the toilet for an hour when he sulked on the toilet ???

[taiga2018]

In my opinion, there is such a behind-the-scenes bargaining, as it were, more politely to return Donbass to the control of Ukraine ...

[The popuas]

The regime needs coal! And that may not last the winter!

[Carat]

Quote: taiga2018

In my opinion, there is such a behind-the-scenes bargaining, as it were, more politely to return Donbass to the control of Ukraine ...

Russia will not allow this. Can you imagine what kind of massacre of civilians will begin there when the Nazis come to Donbass?

[krjugerfred]

A hole about a donut for banderlog, not Donbass

[Blacksmith 55]

Sorry, I'm off topic.
Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov was born on December 1, 1896.
On this site, in the morning, in theory, there should have been, albeit short, but an article about this person.
Of course, I am not able to read all the articles and comments, but I did not notice that someone mentioned this date.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Blacksmith 55

On this site, in the morning, in theory, there should have been, albeit short, but an article about this person.

So after all G.K. Zhukov, Marshal of the Soviet Union.

[Blacksmith 55]

But the site is with a military bias.
Why do they write on VO about Napoleon's marshals?
After all, these are the French.
And Zhukov left a very deep mark on world history.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Blacksmith 55

Why do they write on VO about Napoleon's marshals?
After all, these are the French.

It means "taboo" on everything Soviet.
Let's see what happens on December 21.

[Harry.km]

Quote: tihonmarine

Let's see what happens on December 21.

Did you want to write on December 18 ???

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Harry.km

Did you want to write on December 18 ???

No, I wrote on December 21, but what will December 18 be, am I not catching up with something? (December 21 is J.V. Stalin's birthday).

[Harry.km]

Quote: tihonmarine

December 21 stalin's birthday

I understand what you mean. But on this resource, one cannot argue with comrades, with large cardboard stars. Therefore, all the same on December 18 (without explanation, so as not to be driven into the minus)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Harry.km

Therefore, all the same on December 18 (without explanation, so as not to be driven into the minus)

You're right, it's hard to argue.

[Baloo]

Waiting for a signal from the US Ambassador

[Carat]

Quote: Balu

Waiting for a signal from the US Ambassador

The Georgians have already once imbued with the go-ahead of the US Ambassador to Georgia.

[Mihail55]

In this regard, the Rada hung posters with questions to Zelensky about when he will stop lying to the Ukrainian people.
Well this is his profession - LIE !!! In ancient times, buffoons and suicides were not buried in the church cemetery.

[Fisherman]

Here the situation is like with a wardrobe: the larger the wardrobe, the greater the crash when it falls.
The more the APU pump up the low-grade and unwilling to die HP front-line lines, the stronger and more destructive the mass of those fleeing home in a serious mess will be, such an uncontrolled mass (and even with weapons) will sweep away any remnants of the power block of "Ukrainian statehood" on the way home. order on the ground will collapse, neither the SBU nor the police will climb into the streets to "restore order", knowing that they are dealing with hundreds and thousands of armed deserters.

[Kronos]

Where do such fantasies come from? This did not happen in 2014 either.

[BIABIA]

Clown - Caesar unfinished. He has yet to speak in front of the army, and so that they shout: "Those who go to death greet you ..." Will they really trample, there will be a meat grinder. If the clown does this, he will burn in hell, he does not feel sorry for the Nazis, but how many ordinary people they will kill in the republics ...

[Seld]

Quote: rusich

Horror. How many trenches will have to be dug to bury half of the APU. And feed the prisoners. Apparently they wanted the third boiler

Well, obviously, you personally have already set up the boilers, you personally have already fought well in the trenches with a submachine gun, and now you will again rush off personally and personally to sculpt boilers!
You are a Hero!
Do I respect you? - NOOOO! Ya proud of you and all other similar boiler-organizers !!!!!!!!!

[rusich]

I don't give a damn about your respect for the sick one. I didn’t suit boilers, but I can help arrange them, if necessary, and sit in a trench with a machine gun. True, the VUS that I have will bring much more APU 200. No matter how urgent + school + military experience = 16,5 years

[aszzz888]

In this regard, the Rada hung posters with questions to Zelensky about when he will stop lying to the Ukrainian people.

They need not hang up posters, but take more radical measures against the clown.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: aszzz888

They need not hang up posters, but take more radical measures against the clown.

They don't cut their heads for posters, but for radical measures they smear their foreheads with "green stuff" (and it's a pity for their own forehead).

[Carat]

Quote: aszzz888

They need not hang up posters, but take more radical measures against the clown.

Meaning? Zelensky will be thrown down - they will put Kuleba or Arestovich as president. They will not deliver an adequate one.
Do you know this clown? He is also going to run for the presidency of Ukraine.

[Seld]

Quote: Runner2022

ordinary peaceful laborers of Donbass

Well, who would doubt it !!!!!
"ordinary peaceful hard workers of Donbass" - EXACTLY! They are the most! Regular.
Yesterday I was just digging coal, but today I took a Kalash in my hands and immediately defeated everyone in one line.
And at the same time he shot all the aircraft of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Schaub did not loom over the miner's simple head!

[URAL72]

I am not a miner. I'm from Kherson. He served urgently in Ukraine, he has education. My ancestors fought for their homeland, not for Bandera. Therefore, I was on the side of Donbass, and had military training. Many miners do too. I even know "Afghans" and ordinary workers from Russia with Chechen experience.

[Evil troll]

As for me, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are now more dangerous for Zelensky himself than for Donbass. You can't take the republic unceremoniously, if a new Debaltseve happens (and this is very possible), they will immediately shout: "Vlad sent to the slaughter ... Zelensky traitor ... We were sold, but they themselves conspired ..." and, of course, someone will take advantage of this.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

To lead the troops here and there is a pretty penny. Right now, they moved the troops to the border, in a month, when they understand that the invasion of the Russian hordes is still being postponed, they will have to push the troops back ...
Fuel, spare parts, personnel costs in the fields ... the logistics are shorter. It's not all free.
Although Ukraine is a rich country, they can afford it))

[NDR-791]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

To lead the troops here and there is a pretty penny.

And there is a little not so. Send and go, and a penny to the right place dzin! Then they sent again. And go again, and a penny again to the right place dzin! So go on until you die of hunger, but on Bankovskaya you will not be able to brawl

[Daniil Konovalenko]

Equipment and troops are not only not withdrawn, their concentration at the contact line is only growing. At the same time, Kiev continues to make accusations against Russia that the RF Armed Forces are preparing an offensive.

Apparently under this noise, we decided to finally get rid of the LDNR. There is international support. We look forward to further developments.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

If so, then Russia will have to intercede. No options. It is clear that we are piling on dill, but damn it, somehow it's all wrong.

[Daniil Konovalenko]

Let's wait all the same ... 125 thousand is not a joke ... And there are others who are ready to intervene. The situation is not pleasant. Let's not forget that the LPNR, Russia also did not recognize, are not bound by a mutual assistance treaty ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Daniil Konovalenko

We are waiting for the further development of events.

Christmas, in spite of frosts, will be hot.

[Daniil Konovalenko]

I am afraid of the Croatian development of events, when the Croats took the territory in which the Serbs lived.

[da Vinci]

Satellite photos - into the studio!

[Volodin]

Quote: da Vinci

Satellite photos - into the studio!

Do you have a "Field of Miracles"? .. Well then that explains everything))

[da Vinci]

What's the problem? If the USA unfoundedly (without a satellite) declares about the concentration of Russian troops on the border, then is it really a problem for them to present their photos and prove to the whole world that they are right? Or do gentlemen take their word for it? Why is one better than the other?

[Woodman]

to date, half of the entire personnel of the Ukrainian armed forces - 125 thousand soldiers - have been drawn into the conflict zone.

Against this background, Lukashenka's statement about joining the war on the side of Russia in the event of an attack by Ukraine looks like an attempt to deter Zelensky from rash steps.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Lesovik

Lukashenka's statement

Zelya himself is not afraid of Putin, and Lukashenka simply will not pay attention to the statement ... But in vain!

[Woodman]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Zelya himself is not afraid of Putin

If Zelya is swaggering, this does not mean that it is not afraid.

Quote from Uncle Lee

and Lukashenka will simply not pay attention to the statement

If he does not, then he will perfectly understand that Lukashenka, firstly, has decided on whose side he is, and secondly, in the event of a large-scale provocation, the fate of Ukraine has already been decided.
And here it is not Zelensky's sanity or fearlessness that comes to the fore, but how far his patrons are able to go at the moment.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Lesovik

how far

No further than Mishiko! He was thrown before the "wedding"!

[Woodman]

Quote from Uncle Lee

No further than Mishiko!

Mishiko just got himself into "the most ... well, in general, you will be up to the waist."

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Lesovik

waist-high

And Zelya - up to the tonsils!

[Vladimir 290]

Well, yes, he has already been taught how to handle ties, he also plays confidently on the piano, and all progressive mankind is with him

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Vladimir 290

Well, yes, he has already been taught how to handle ties, he also plays confidently on the piano, and all progressive mankind is with him

The javelins were poured, the bytractors were given ... Death to the enemies!

[tihonmarine]

In this regard, the Rada hung posters with questions to Zelensky about when he will stop lying to the Ukrainian people.

Born to lie, cannot speak the truth.

[cniza]

At the same time, Kiev continues to make accusations against Russia that the RF Armed Forces are preparing an offensive.

Classics, who shouts louder than anyone, stop thief? ...

[Dikson]

In the photo for the article, Mrs. Zakharova stands with such a look .. Realizing perfectly well that all her speeches do not solve anything in this situation .. Russia has already been named guilty under any scenario. Ukraine will attack the DPR and LPR, it will not attack ..- the whole world will see and read that Russia attacked Ukraine and it (Russia) should be punished .. And all sorts of Poles, Bolts and British with Swedes will also say - "Yeah ! you see, but we warned .. "so it's no use talking to talk .. We must either annex the self-proclaimed republics to Russia before the New Year, (and then again spit on sanctions), or we will have to accept refugees from these republics .. and fight .. There is, of course, a third way - just to sit on the sidelines .. but for some reason it seems to me that our leadership has not yet sunk to such swinishness ..

[Daniil Konovalenko]

but for some reason it seems to me that our leadership has not yet sunk to such beastly ...

This is the easiest step of the above.

[Ros 56]

Realizing perfectly well that all her performances do not solve anything in this situation.

And since when did the speeches begin to decide something, this is generally the delivery of information and nothing more.
And to be honest, do not give a damn from a high mountain why the Geyropeans will blink after they are rolled into dust and let them say thank you that they are not radioactive. It is clear to any person with brains that the time has come to make a choice, whether we are crossing the Rubicon or expressing our concerns.

[tihonmarine]

US Embassy employees who have been in Moscow for more than three years must leave the Russian Federation by January 31, 2022. This was stated by the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova.
“We have long and persistently tried to reason with them and still direct them to some kind of constructive solution to the issue, but they made their choice,” Zakharova explained.

[Ros 56]

Apparently we are waiting for fun for the holidays.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ros 56

Apparently we are waiting for fun for the holidays.

As Lavrov said:

"Kiev is becoming more and more arrogant, I would say, in its aggressiveness towards the Minsk agreements, towards the Russian Federation and in its attempts to provoke the West to support its militant aspirations."

"But we will never break down and never say:" Well, everything, she died so. Let them say this, and we will demand the implementation of the UN Security Council resolution. "- added the minister.

[Seld]

Quote: rusich

I don't give a damn about your respect for the sick one. I didn’t suit boilers, but I can help arrange them, if necessary, and sit in a trench with a machine gun. True, the VUS that I have will bring much more APU 200. No matter how urgent + school + military experience = 16,5 years

eight-))))
16,5 years ....
This means that you gave up serving the army in uniform ahead of schedule. No, everything is clear. I agree. Completely on your side!
It is logical: z.p. small, if the apartment was given, then with an encumbrance. You also have to wear outfits. And the commander -. And the pension is cheap. Everything is correct. You, dear, in fact, if you subtract 5 years of bald-felting in the school (I know what I'm writing about), you served in the real army exactly as much as mathematics shows. Regardless of the type of troops. Objectively.
Well, everything is clear about your further training in military academies. You are like Chapaev! It is also logical, by the way. Well, it didn't work out for you because of your education and education.
Well they themselves wrote about 16,5 years. Nobody pulled you by the tongue.
Himself - in the subject. Therefore, I am deciphering for other readers your combat, combat and political experience and achievements in military service to the Motherland in the ranks of the Armed Forces. There are still boilers left on the couch with an automatic machine and there will be a complete entourage of the Hero!
However, for your honesty - thanks, no kidding!

[rusich]

Your petty and corrupt little soul. Treat dear, get well. And learn some Russian. There are a lot of mistakes, (about what I am writing, it is written through ё and others are). And I served, serve and continue to serve. Today this is a total length of service of 16,5. And I didn’t guess about my pension, it’s too early for me to think about it. And my apartment is great. And the monetary allowance is not a penny. Much more than your Judas, you are paid 33 pieces of silver

[uav80]

Come on, bullshit, Russia has put all the capable population under bayonets and threw them to the border with the outskirts ...

[Center]

[Ros 56]

Will Banderlog's ghouls really not let people celebrate the New Year normally? Well, they will run into it, after all, it will not seem a little, is there really not enough of the past boilers?

[Seld]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

If so, then Russia will have to intercede. No options. It is clear that we are piling on dill, but damn it, somehow it's all wrong.

And the price of the question of this very ... zdy you, obviously, do not care? Do you have a daughter? The son does not serve already / yet? Or are you childless? Or - do you have a white ticket and you don't get into the trenches for felting this very "zdy" machine?
And if you or your son go to war, is it not scary for you / him to remain dependent on your wife / father / mother without teeth, legs and ear?

[Ros 56]

Yes, life is generally scary, you will die anyway. Everyone is scared, but you have to be human. They whined on this topic in front of the front-line soldiers.

[zwlad]

to date, half of the entire personnel of the Ukrainian armed forces - 125 thousand soldiers - have been drawn into the conflict zone.

Too much. With such forces, they may well go for a forceful solution on the number of December 30 or 31.

[Seld]

Quote: rusich

Your petty and corrupt little soul. Treat dear, get well. And I served, serve and continue to serve. Today this is a total length of service of 16,5. And I didn’t guess about my pension, it’s too early for me to think about it. And my apartment is great. And the monetary allowance is not a penny. Much more than your Judas, you are paid 33 pieces of silver

Why are you shouting like that? I did not understand that you are still serving. So that's great!!!
You are a real pro! For you to drive the adversary army into the cauldron is like eating a pie for breakfast. No loss, no noise and no dust! Krisivee Tamans / Kantemirovtsy at the parade, set everything up! In one fell swoop, all beatings!
And I also take the rest of my words back. Not right!
Really! Indeed! Only a real Pro, as you are sure in advance in boilers for foreign enemies, in advance! And straightforwardly about it and declares: "Get out with a kulem, then we'll sort it out! Us-army!" You are a real Komisar! VPS is smoking nervously on the sidelines!
Thank you for the dialogue and participation in our correspondence! Honestly, I didn't mean to offend you!

[Seld]

Quote: Ros 56

Yes, life is generally scary, you will die anyway. Everyone is scared, but you have to be human. They whined on this topic in front of the front-line soldiers.

I scolded. The front-line soldiers were in solidarity. By the way, they very carefully and discreetly talk about the war and the prospects of the parties with the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
And even about their actions in the war - and completely silent. Patamushtaaaa ... Modest? Smart? Experienced? Philosophical? Navoevaty?

[Vladimir61]

If at the beginning of the play, on the stage wall, there is a gun - it means by the end of the play, it will certainly shoot ... And then, it looks like there will be big problems!

[jeka424]

since 14 nothing new

[Fisherman]

Quote: Kronos

Where do such fantasies come from? This did not happen in 2014 either.

"It happened ... it happened" ... Debaltseve - it was the "training" of the Armed Forces ... some ran right up to Lviv. The group was released from the cauldron, and a small number of deserters caused a lot of trouble for the police, but significant.

[sen]

Maria Zakharova: Ukrainian Armed Forces pulled half of their personnel into the conflict zone in Donbass

They are seriously preparing to pull off a small victorious war, like in Georgia.

[George Koval]

The Anglo-Saxons are stubbornly pushing Kiev to Donbass, but the clown Ze will not dare to fight until he is sure that Russia will not beat him in the snot.
That is why the West is doing everything to convince the stupid scamarokh of this, as Mishiko was once convinced. Hence all this escalation of the situation and threats to Russia ... And only decisive actions by Russia can prevent war!

[fa2998]

Quote: rusich

Horror.

Well, Lavrov will last another 20 years, it’s like water off a duck's back. But Maria Vladimirovna needs to be sent to a good sanatorium, something has passed very well in recent years.

[Dkuznecov]

Masha, don't think about the Kiev problems - they will sort it out among themselves.
Start building alliances by adding to the "allies - army and navy"
and other guys, stronger and richer.
And no offense.

[Der Spiegel]

Of course, Maria Vladimirovna is a competent and honest specialist. But let me ask you, who composes such speeches for the Russian Foreign Ministry?
It will not be difficult to find information on the Internet that out of 250 thousand of the Ukrainian army, about 110 thousand are contract servicemen. That is, if, according to Ms. (tov) Zakharova M.V., half of the Ukrainian army is located near the demarcation line (125 thousand people), then this means that the entire combat-ready army of Ukraine is located in the Donbass + 15 non-combat people vuss (businessmen, secretaries, etc.). Maybe at least someone in the military will be taken to the Foreign Ministry? Let them comment?

[Reserve buildbat]

Do you really think that there are only "militants" in Donbass? "Administrators-supply-doctors" and the like. is not there?

[Reserve buildbat]

So if half of the suckers have already concentrated, maybe not bother and warm them up with thermobars, otherwise winter is near, they will freeze even more, beeeeeeing ...