"Mountain tank" of China Type 15 for the first time delivered abroad

In recent years, the world market has seen an increased demand for lightweight Tanks... In this regard, the period between the development of products in this class and their implementation for export takes a minimum amount of time.

The VT5 system, also designated Type 15 or ZTQ-15, is a light tank developed by the Chinese company NORINCO. This product was presented to the public in November 2016. The manufacturer states that the Type 15 has been specifically designed for export customers. However, he has already managed to register in Tibet, in the zone of the Indian-Chinese conflict, being in service with the troops of the PRC. On December 27, 2018, the Ministry of Defense announced the acceptance of the tank for equipping the PLA.

In December 2019, the Bangladesh military department officially announced the purchase of Type 15 light tanks from China. According to the Western edition of Army Recognition, this month the first batch of armored vehicles has already been delivered abroad. This is the first foreign delivery of these tanks.

The developer claims that the tank is excellent for service in mountainous areas, and therefore has already received the appropriate designation. Indeed, part of the PLA's Type 15 fleet is currently on patrol in the Xinjiang mountains.

The Type 15 weighs between 33 and 36 tons, depending on the armor mounted on the tank. This mass provides greater mobility in comparison with the standard MBT. The main armament of the tank is represented by a 105-mm rifled gun.

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[Thrifty]

Bangladesh, what will they pay? This is the Asian "uk-Roina", in terms of the economy, a former piece of India, torn off from the part of India that has become Pakistan!

[Flooding]

Quote: Thrifty

cut off from also the part of India that became Pakistan!

Bangladesh on India's eastern borders
Pakistan - in the western
how could Bangladesh be cut off from Pakistan?

[OgnennyiKotik]

Britain divided the territories so that Pakistan consisted of 2 parts, divided by India. Following the 1971 war, eastern Pakistan gained independence.

[Flooding]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Britain divided the territories so that Pakistan consisted of 2 parts, divided by India

Thank you.
I did not know about this historical tyranny.

In any case, this territory is not "cut off from Pakistan", as it was artificially stuck to it.

[Liam]

Quote: Flood

Bangladesh on India's eastern borders
Pakistan - in the western
how could Bangladesh be cut off from Pakistan?

During the division of India in 1947, the Bengal region was divided along religious lines. The western part of Bengal was ceded to India, and the eastern part was annexed to Pakistan as the province of East Bengal (later renamed East Pakistan) with the capital in Dhaka ..

The War of Independence lasted nine months. The Mukti Bahini guerrilla forces and the regular armed forces of Bangladesh received support from the Indian armed forces during the fighting in December 1971. The alliance of Indian and Bangladeshi troops of Mitro-Bahini defeated the Pakistani army on December 16, 1971, during which more than 90 soldiers and officers were taken prisoner.

After gaining independence from Pakistan, Bangladesh becomes a parliamentary republic, with Mujibur Rahman as prime minister.

[donavi49]

As well as for Yaki and NPP:

The cost of the project, according to Bangladeshi media reports, will be up to $ 13 billion. Russia provides state export credit of up to $ 11,38 billionto be used by the Bangladeshi side in 2017-2024

Bangladesh will spend part of the $ 1 billion loan taken from Russia for the purchase of 16 Yak-130

[alystan]

And what do we / you care about who and what will pay for something?
And then, much more fragments were "chipped" from British India than you might imagine. Actually, almost all the smaller states to the East belonged to India, as well as Ceylon and the Maldives. Thanks to the small-haired people who "skillfully left" their former colony, thereby provoking a bloody fratricidal war with a large number of victims (according to various estimates, from 0,5 to 1,0 million dead) and up to 12 million refugees. The worst thing is that this wound is still bleeding thanks to the post-colonial policy of the WB.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: alystan

And what do we / you care about that

that

small-haired who "skillfully left" from their former colony

The British did this wherever they had to leave their colonies (except the Angla-Saxon ones) ... the same Kuwait was once the 16th province of Iraq, and modern Belize (where the British now have WB) was once part of Honduras .. ..
The British are doing everything right, constantly using the ancient principle of "divide and rule", this is still better than what the RSFSR / USSR did by giving their lands to the artificially created republics of the Union, losing these lands and the population along with them forever ...

[svp67]

Quote: Thrifty

Bangladesh, what will these pay?

India will give you to get to know this Chinese tank more closely ...
But here's the turret-mounted MZ ... that's what our T-72/90 and T-80 series tanks really need when modernizing them.

[Mountain shooter]

Tank straight from WWII. Armor, weapons, weight even less. But it is in demand!
And what name they came up with - Mountain Tank ... Good brand, "corrupt" ...

[hohol95]

A similar "mountain" tank was the "Type 62" with an 85 mm gun.
And in Bangladesh there were up to 40 units.
Their service is over, and there are no other options in the world.
Only a Chinese tank.

[donavi49]

You will find a tank in WWII with 1000 automatic horses and good reverse gear? And 30 horses per ton.
AZ for long shells in the niche of the conveyor-type tower.
Perfect observation devices with thermal imagers. That will allow, in theory, to detect and shoot first.
Communication and tactical link. Well, all these American cartoons about how a battalion commander controls his tanks on a tablet, knowing everything about each one, work here too.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: donavi49

You will find a tank in WWII with 1000 automatic horses and good reverse gear? And 30 horses per ton.
AZ for long projectiles in the niche of the conveyor-type tower

Why exaggerate? There were no such "nishtyaks" then ... However, not 70 tons ...

[cat Rusich]

The article reads "The developer claims that the tank is excellent for service in mountainous terrain..."
Bangladesh is located in lowland, in the delta of the river Ganges and the river. Brahmaputra, there is more needed amphibious tank - 10090 sq. km of water surface.
Yes, there is a mountain in Bangladesh. Chittagong (Lushai Mountains) on the southeastern border with India and Myanmar. Highest point - mountain Reng Tlang - 957m.

[alystan]

And Bangladesh is more often than others in the region flooded, so maybe a lighter tank is also a good solution for constantly wet soil, along with a floating version.

[ycuce234-san]

Quote: cat Rusich

there rather a floating tank is needed - 10090 sq. km of water surface

And they have. They first of all bought amphibious tanks from the Chinese and now they have bought more equipment with heavier equipment, apparently already on the basis of their bridges. In general, their work with swamps is similar to the American Vietnamese - a combination of boats, helicopters.
Therefore, it is more logical to offer them something like self-propelled tank landing barges - they will now suddenly discover that some of their new non-floating tanks are most conveniently transported along swampy off-road, not on wheels, but along rivers and sea. Well, or develop a multi-axle trawl-swamp vehicle for sale ...

[cat Rusich]

Quote: ycuce234-san

Therefore, it is more logical to offer them something like self-propelled tank landing barges - they will now suddenly discover that some of their new non-floating tanks are most conveniently transported along swampy off-road, not on wheels, but along rivers and sea. Well, or develop a multi-axle trawl-swamp vehicle for sale ...

MDKVP Bison
Now Bangladesh will have to buy at least 10 "Bison" for free transportation of the purchased tanks within the country.

[ycuce234-san]

Rather, they are waiting for a new project of a new inexpensive boat like the LCM-6 - it is more useful for them inside on a very shallow river network. And in different versions - from radio reconnaissance to technical equipment.
Well, eternally wet swamps do not allow digging in and allow the use of any exotic - the usual shells and mines will simply sink in the mud without bursting, as in WWI, but you can use flamethrowers about volumetric explosions - in an ordinary dry forest, from a grandiose fire that began you can not carry your own legs.

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[the same doctor]

To be honest, I do not understand the problems with "mountain" tanks and vehicles. For warriors, fuel consumption is not critical. Put an electrically driven turbine on any car outside the armor, in the back, between the air filters, and there you have a mountain tank. According to my estimates, a power of about 500 W is required for every hundred kilowatts of maximum engine power: not critical. The generator will need 10 kW more powerful. The thin air cooling system can boil ... You may need to make a stronger intake manifold.
But at the same time, there are a lot of opportunities that open up when implementing such a solution, especially for carburetor engines.

[zwlad]

A weak cannon, as it seems to me for modern times.

[donavi49]

L7 is legendary. Chinese clones of Israeli crowbars pierce the T-72b in the forehead without k5. There is a rocket. There is a land mine with remote detonation. It is quite a normal tool for such a platform. If they had put 125 mm, then the platform would have grown fat. Apparently fit into the rigid weight dimensions.

[Klingon]

AZ of conveyor type? Something I'm watching BOPS is too long

[riwas]

The experience of Afghanistan shows that weapons with high elevation angles are needed in the mountains. The 57-mm "Derivation-Air Defense" will do, as well as the 120-mm self-propelled artillery gun 2S34 "Khosta", which can shoot guided mines "Gran".

[Lara Croft]

Bangladesh has already bought main tanks with Ukrainian engines from the PRC and got into a mess, as they say ...

Bangladesh purchased 44 Chinese tanks equipped with a 6TD-2 engine. Reportedly, during the operation of the tanks, problems arose with Ukrainian engines, and obtaining high-quality spare parts for repair is impossible due to the ban imposed by Ukraine on the re-export of 6TD-2 engines and spare parts to China by China.
According to some reports, the required power density is not provided, especially in operating conditions at medium altitudes.

https://topwar.ru/175570-armija-bangladesh-nedovolna-kitajskimi-tankami-s-ukrainskimi-dvigateljami.html
Another "joint" from NORINKO and Bangladesh will buy armored vehicles from Russian comrades ....

[donavi49]

Bangladesh maneuvers contracts in its favor - that is, in loans for 10-15 years. Xi is ready. But is ROE ready?

And in general, they do not jump off such a needle. Almost all purchases are from China.

And a little Sultan.

In Russia, only credit Yaks + Belarusian MiGs for a long time + Ukrainian MT-LB and BTR-80, but not enough and for a very long time, with a beekeeper.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: donavi49

Bangladesh maneuvers contracts in its favor - that is, in loans for 10-15 years. Xi is ready. But is ROE ready?

Well, I think ROE does not need to strive to sell to everyone on credit B and BT, the Russian Federation has no global plans in that region, unlike the PRC, and India can get angry, with neighboring Laos we have a stronger position ...

And in general, they do not jump off such a needle. Almost all purchases are from China.

That is true, however, the Bangladeshi comrades still do not want to "put their eggs in one basket," the purchase of the Yak-130 from the Russian Federation confirms this, and also that NORINCO cannot produce the entire range of V and VTs of the world level .... although for this "cockroach corner" and the Chinese B and BT will be enough ...

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Lara Croft

Bangladesh will buy armored vehicles from Russian comrades ...

Do we have something to offer them?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Do we have something to offer them?

So yes ... the former East Pakistan defended its independence thanks to Soviet weapons ... or does the Russian Federation not produce tanks, sau?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Lara Croft

or does the Russian Federation not produce tanks, self-propelled guns?

And what does it actually produce?
Which for example ?

[75 Sergey]

Octopus will not work?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: 75Sergey

Octopus will not work?

Octopus is an SPG.
Yes, the cannon is formally more powerful, but everything else is lighter. Armor, engine ... and it is sharpened mainly for parachute landing to the detriment of combat stability. That Bangladesh didn't give up. The only advantage is that it floats.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Octopus is an SPG.

"Thank you" comrade "mr" but kind and trusting members of the forum knew it without you ....

Bangladesh didn't give up.

Do you have access to the terms of reference of the Bangladesh Defense Ministry regarding the requirements for a light tank for the Bangladesh Army?

The only advantage is that it floats.

A good advantage in the presence of a large number of water obstacles in the country (see the picture of a good forum member cat Rusich), by the way it is incl. thanks to PT-76, Bangladesh ceased to be East Pakistan ...
There are mountain ranges only near the border with Myanmar (former Burma) ... with it, just not everything is in order, there are disputes about the territories, google it, in principle it could be guessed about it, and so why Bangladesh needed Chinese "mountain" tanks ....

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Lara Croft

There are mountain ranges only near the border with Myanmar (former Burma) ... with it, just not everything is in order

Well, you yourself answered about the terms of reference.

[75 Sergey]

The price of the issue in comparison with our Octopus and performance characteristics?

[Roman Efremov]

Bangladesh would be better off buying our line of amphibious vehicles - BMP-3 as the main combat vehicle, Octopus as a fire support vehicle, some short-range air defense on the BMP-3 chassis (Pine), ATGM on the same chassis (Chrysanthemum). However, perhaps I have a poor idea of ​​the nature of the local area - but it seemed to me that there are many swamps and rivers.

[ycuce234-san]

Quote: Roman Efremov

BMP-3 as the main combat vehicle

Rather, they would be interested in a platform boat with the ability to support the bottom with the bottom or piles. With this, you can even apply wheel art. They already have plenty of floating armor - only the Vietnamese have more, who also have swamps, swamps, swamps.

[Evgeny Seleznev]

It is not correct to call a light tank a mountain, this is a headline for the yellow press.

[waymag]

The dragon grows its teeth. On the mind, it would be necessary to strain ...

[Cats]

Such "light" tanks are 30-36t, and we can stamp them in the shortest possible time. Take the chassis from the T-54 \ 55 or T-62, install a new engine and transmission there, instead of the old tower - a new combat module with a cannon, at least 100mm, at least 115mm, at least 125mm (our designers have installed on an 18-ton chassis, will install and 30-ton) with an automatic loader and a modern MSA.

[Reserve buildbat]

A light tank as heavy as a T-64? Interesting movie I suspect the T-64 is more efficient.