The Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation demanded a daily report on the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome

Russian Prosecutor General Igor Krasnov held a meeting in the Amur Region with the participation of senior officials on the observance of the rule of law in the course of construction work on space objects. As a result, the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation demanded a daily report on the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome, where the meeting was held.

This was reported by the press service of the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation.

Krasnov noted that it is necessary to monitor compliance with the rule of law when carrying out work at this strategic facility every day. This task was entrusted to the management of the state corporation "Roscosmos" and other organizations responsible for the implementation of the project.

The Prosecutor General noted that from the very beginning of the construction of the cosmodrome, he was accompanied by many problems with the law, which, despite the punishment of the guilty, have not yet been eradicated. To solve them, you will need to use a whole range of measures, increase the level of responsibility of performers and conduct continuous monitoring.

A presidential decree on the start of construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome was issued in 2007, and work began in 2012. Although the first missile launch was carried out in 2016, construction work is still ongoing. All this time, the implementation of the project has been accompanied by corruption scandals.

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[svp67]

As a result, the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation demanded a daily report on the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome, where the meeting was held.

The next stage is an HOURLY report, then a minute-by-minute and a second ... Who was punished for these "freaks" and how much? Maybe it would be necessary to dig "deeper" already ...

[AlcUz]

Right from the depths and started. They can't get to the surface ...

[210ox]

Yes, you have to dig up.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: 210ox

Yes, you have to dig up.

The main thing in investigative actions is not to get out on ourselves.

[tralflot1832]

I saw the video of how the launch pad was being built, they showed it to the whole country. The Uzbeks were loading concrete from the mixer with shovels. And there thousands of cubes need to be laid. And what the robot patrol is doing there, maybe you need to add something else besides the cameras.

[Volos]

Instead of Uzbeks, the solution in Vostochny has to be kneaded by "effective managers" from Roscosmos for ten years now, who, while occupying high positions and receiving salaries from the country's budget, have not been able or did not want to organize construction and installation work.

[210ox]

They should also demand a daily report from the FIU .... I can imagine what kind of work awaits the prosecutor's office. Isn't it easier to start against the wall?

[Wedmak]

Isn't it easier to start against the wall?

Not ... we have a veto on this matter. I propose to take away EVERYTHING in favor of the state from such figures, with proven theft. Including the property of close relatives, who are so fond of rewriting their "income". Give them a minimum living space, a wolf ticket for civil service and goodbye. And, well, you can also put a "thief" label on them through the media.

[tralflot1832]

The decree was signed today, the money of corrupt officials should be transferred to the FIU.

[AUL]

Quote: tralflot1832

transfer the money of corrupt officials to the FIU.

So, they will have to carry money back from home to work?

[Lisa90]

I totally agree with you! Then the wife and mother-in-law will exclude the entire cerebellum. Do not take, do not carry, do not steal !!))

[Alf]

Quote: Lisa90

I totally agree with you! Then the wife and mother-in-law will exclude the entire cerebellum. Do not take, do not carry, do not steal !!))

Yeah, they will be hammering in a couple - Masha's husband earns how much, and Tanya has a rest every year in Europe, and changes geldings ...

[Volos]

the whole procedure for dealing with officials - thieves and saboteurs was perfectly worked out during the Soviet era:
- confiscation of property;
- forced labor camp for 10-15 years;
- lifelong restriction in rights with the prohibition to hold government posts and positions;
- expulsion for the 101st km.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: 210ox

They should also demand a daily report from the FIU .... I can imagine what kind of work awaits the prosecutor's office. Isn't it easier to start against the wall?

It is not easier to introduce into the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation an article on the complete confiscation of property from the perpetrator of corruption and his entourage.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: SKVichyakow

It is not easier to introduce into the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation an article on the complete confiscation of property from the perpetrator of corruption and his entourage.

First, you need to enter into the Criminal Code an article that the Criminal Code applies to everyone. In the meantime, there is a caste of special favorites ... You introduce any articles into it, there will be exactly zero sense.

[210ox]

You see the downsides .. Yeah, I didn't like the surroundings. Or maybe guilty.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: 210ox

They should also demand a daily report from the FIU .... I can imagine what kind of work awaits the prosecutor's office. Isn't it easier to start against the wall?

This is to what extent corruption and bribery have reached in construction, where a bunch of papers on purchases and expenditure of materials, construction estimates, technical supervision and a bunch of inspectors are drawn up, that the PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE should now recheck everything ?!
Isn't it time to send the lured leadership from there to the taiga, for manual assembly of dead wood and felling ?!

[Cosm22]

I can not believe it.
Do they continue to steal under Dmitry Olegovich? Under the most effective head of Roscosmos?
Oh no no no...
Here are the radishes. Such a rosy picture of the department after an unprecedented film show is spoiled.

[alystan]

Why deeper, higher is necessary, higher!

[210ox]

So after all it is possible to fill up itself with the "piece of land"

[YOUR]

To fulfill the requirements, introduce the position of auditors, then controllers for auditors, controllers for supervising auditors .................................. And nothing has changed.

[mole]

Quote: YOUR

To fulfill the requirements, introduce the position of auditors, then controllers for auditors, controllers for supervising auditors .................................. And nothing has changed.

Create the appearance of work ?!

[Anachoret]

Then it will be something like this))
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[Polite Moose]

Quote: Anchorite

Then it will be something like this))

- Comrade Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation! Allow me to report ?!
- See the safe open? And report there.

[slipped]

Quote: svp67

Following its results, the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation demanded a daily report on the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome,

Well, she wants to. As well as without their supervision.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: svp67

Maybe it would be necessary to dig "deeper" already ...

everything is already stolen.
On November 6, 2007, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on the construction of a cosmodrome. In 2010, a Memorial Sign was laid to commemorate the start of work.
...
Over 140 criminal cases were initiated on the facts of violations during the construction of the cosmodrome, the damage amounted to more than 10 billion rubles.

Until the efficiency of absorption of funds is brought to the level of Gazprom Arena, they will not calm down
Initially, the construction costing 6,7 billion rubles ...
On June 19, 2017, the vice-governor of St. Petersburg Igor Albin announced that the final cost of the stadium was 43 billion rubles. But the real cost is probably higher. So, the head of the St. Petersburg branch of the anti-corruption center "Transparency International" Dmitry Sukharev, back in January 2017, spoke about the amount of more than 50 billion

up to 1 rubles east is still far

[Alf]

Quote: svp67

Maybe it would be necessary to dig "deeper" already ...

[venik]

Quote: svp67

Whom and how much were punished for these "freaks"? Maybe it would be necessary to dig "deeper" already ...

========
It's clear. You read the last paragraph! A penultimate? No? And there it says: "...many problems with the law, which, despite punishment of the guilty, still not eradicated... ... ".
Unfortunately, greed and bribery are vices that are not easy to eradicate - even under the threat of the death penalty, many individuals denounced by the "right to sign" and to dispose of funds cannot resist the desire to "make money at public expense"! Look, in China for how many years (in my opinion more than a hundred!) Bribe-takers and corrupt officials have been publicly shot, but they still will not end up ...

[den3080]

Quote: svp67

As a result, the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation demanded a daily report on the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome, where the meeting was held.

The next stage is an HOURLY report, then a minute-by-minute and a second ... Who was punished for these "freaks" and how much? Maybe it would be necessary to dig "deeper" already ...

And they will still steal.
Maybe not deeper, but higher "dig"?

[seregin-s1]

12 years in a general regime colony and a fine of one and a half million rubles was assigned to the main person involved in the case - the former head of Dalspetsstroy, Yuri Khrizman. 7 years old - to his subordinate, the former chief accountant of the enterprise, Vladimir Ashikhmin, for abuse during the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome. In favor of the state corporation Roscosmos, 5 billion 162 million 970 thousand rubles were collected from Yuri Khrizman and Vladimir Ashikhmin.

[seregin-s1]

Mikhail Khrizman was sentenced to 5 years and 6 months in prison. And Viktor Chudov was assigned 6 years in prison.

[seregin-s1]

In June 2016, Ostrovsky was found guilty by the Gagarinsky Court of Moscow and sentenced to five years in prison in a general regime colony and a fine of 800 thousand rubles. On March 19, 2019, the Gagarin court sentenced Ostrovsky to seven years in prison.

[seregin-s1]

According to the investigation, Ermolaev, who held office in 2004-2014, was involved in the theft of more than 404 million rubles allocated for the construction of Vostochny. Together with him in the case are former acting. the head of Dalspetsstroy Andrey Zakharov, as well as the general directors of TsNIIMTSEN LLC and Gosnormative LLC Olga Zugaeva and Sergey Polivanov.

[seregin-s1]

On April 5, 2015, a criminal case was initiated against Sergei Terentyev, the general director of Stroyindustriya-S, one of the Vostochny contractors. On April 6, he was taken into custody.

[seregin-s1]

On April 29, 2016, the court found Nesterenko guilty of fraud and sentenced him to three years in prison.

[seregin-s1]

On April 16, 2015, a criminal case was opened against the former director of TMK Viktor Grebnev. He was sentenced to a five-year suspended sentence with a two-year probationary period. In addition, a fine of 200 thousand rubles was imposed on him.

[seregin-s1]

Mikhail Gelman was sentenced to six years and three months in prison and deprived of the right to hold certain positions for a period of three years.

[seregin-s1]

On May 3, 2018, the 94th garrison military court in Moscow sentenced Deniskin to 7,5 years in prison, Yartsev to seven years, and Shkadin to six and a half years in prison.

[seregin-s1]

Evgeny Nefedov was sentenced to seven years in prison, Andrei Golub - to 6,5 years. In addition, each was fined 5,95 million rubles.

[seregin-s1]

Degtyarev was sentenced to eight years in a strict regime colony and 1,5 million rubles in a fine, Degtyarev - to 4,5 years with a fine of 1 million rubles, Bazankov received six years and 1 million rubles in a fine, Matuev - 5,5 years and 1 million rubles fine.

[seregin-s1]

Since June 17, 2017, the Dzerzhinsky District Court of St. Petersburg has been considering the case of Nikolai Balantsev, Ivan Loktev, Pavel Bartosh

[Volos]

Mikhail Gelman was sentenced to six years and three months in prison and deprived of the right to hold certain positions for a period of three years.

why not for life?

[ghby]

Quote: svp67

The next stage is an HOURLY report, then a minute-by-minute and a second ... Who was punished for these "freaks" and how much? Maybe it would be necessary to dig "deeper" already ...

Cohn's law
For bureaucrats, the flow of paper is the more abundant, the more time is spent on reporting less and less work. A steady state is achieved when you spend all of your time reporting on doing nothing.

[Wedmak]

I had to do this first. They knew that they would steal ... Such volumes, how not to put on a flat to your beloved?

[Pandiurin]

Quote: Wedmak

I had to do this first. They knew that they would steal ... Such volumes, how not to put on a flat to your beloved?

Construction, has always stolen, steal and will steal. In any country.
But here, apparently, they were cut off at the end. The money was plundered but not built, so that more money would be allocated for the continuation of construction in order to plunder again.

But the daily reporting, violation of the rule of law, is most likely due to the fact that they were greatly thrown with the wages of the workers and now no one wants to build.

Deadlines are flying, costs are growing.

[mole]

In Tatarstan, during the preparation for the Universiade, all spending of funds was taken under the strictest controlat the beginning... Indicatively they whipped the "villains", after which they only monitored.
But for inspection by the President of the Russian Federation, all objects either functioned or were at 99,99 percent of readiness!

[Blackthrope]

Monitor the observance of the rule of law Every day ... And before that the supervisors und law enforcement officers were on guard for a day / three or at the "requests of workers"?
Found a job for the unemployed ...

[Crowe]

Monitor the observance of the rule of law Every day ... And before that the supervisors und law enforcement officers were on guard for a day / three or at the "requests of workers"?

Indeed ... we will work when they say that we need to control the crooks every day and give them a hand?

[Alex Justice]

We have retired ministers for just a thousand stolen dollars. Now the Minister of Immigration is on trial for illegally issued visas.

[prior]

construction work is still ongoing

They are building, but why are they building ?!
Apparently, the Prosecutor General's Office had something to do ...

[Flooding]

Quote: prior

They are building, but why are they building ?!

Cosmodrome is a complex of structures, equipment and land plots designed for receiving, storing, assembling, testing, preparing for launch and launching a launch vehicle (LV) from a spacecraft, as well as for monitoring the launch of a launch vehicle at the launch site.

"Great Russian Encyclopedia"

[prior]

Is there a program for the development of astronautics?
Who, where, on what, why?

[Wedmak]

There is. But we won't tell you. Joke ... The Roscosmos website has everything written down. Luna-25 has entered the home stretch. Soon the start of another Angara, if I remember correctly, "Prichal" is leaving for the ISS next week. Allocated another 1,3 billion (like this amount) for space exploration and implementation of programs. Something there promised about the imminent tests of the accelerator with a return wing.

[prior]

Over the past few years, from the space achievements, only the breakdown of the toilet in the American segment, and the hole in the case of our module ...

[Wedmak]

You have a bad memory, what to say ... it is not entirely clear how much is meant by "several years", but still. You overslept: the withdrawal and docking of the Nauka module to the ISS, launches of the new Angara launch vehicle, the flight of the film crew (not so-so achievement in my opinion, but still an interesting experiment), work on the Nuclon project tug, transfer of Vostochny to naphthyl (also a lot of work), OneWeb satellite launches, Spectra launches, the largest series of accident-free launches.

[prior]

The difference in understanding of what achievements in space are, is fundamentally different between you and me. It happens.

[Wedmak]

Let me ask you, what is your understanding?

[prior]

For example, the Soviet program Energia-Buran.
There is a launch complex, a booster rocket, a space reentry vehicle, and delivery vehicles to Baikonur, and the main thing is the result, not the investigation of the Prosecutor General's Office.

[Wedmak]

What is fundamentally different about the current program? Vostochny cosmodrome, Angara launch vehicle, the project of reentry steps on the wing, Orel PTC, flights to the Moon. The result is still in the process, you have the opportunity to observe in real time.

[prior]

What is fundamentally different is the process where the work of the Prosecutor General's Office can be monitored in real time.

[slipped]

Quote: prior

where the work of the Prosecutor General's Office can be monitored in real time.

You are not observing well, the Prosecutor General's Office did not reveal any violations.

[slipped]

Quote: prior

For example, the Soviet program Energia-Buran.
There is a launch complex, a booster rocket, a space reentry vehicle, and delivery vehicles to Baikonur, and the main thing is the result, not the investigation of the Prosecutor General's Office.

These are the ruins at Baikonur, belonging to Kazakhstan, what? Maybe the Prosecutor General's Office should do this?

[Vadim237]

That is, the Radioastron Telescope Spectrum RG is not an achievement.

[Flooding]

Quote: prior

Is there a program for the development of astronautics?
Who, where, on what, why?

"Basic provisions of the Fundamentals of the State Policy of the Russian Federation in the field of space activities for the period up to 2030 and beyond"
from 2013 year

https://legalacts.ru/doc/osnovnye-polozhenija-osnov-gosudarstvennoi-politiki-rossiiskoi-federatsii/

"Fundamentals of state policy in the field of using the results of space activities in the interests of modernizing the economy of the Russian Federation and the development of its regions for the period up to 2030"
from 2014 year

https://www.garant.ru/products/ipo/prime/doc/70484388/

"The main provisions of the Federal Space Program 2016-2025"

https://www.roscosmos.ru/22347/


State program "Space activities of Russia"

The state program contains information of limited access!

http://government.ru/rugovclassifier/868/events/

[Wedmak]

They are building, but why are they building ?!

There will actually be several launching tables there. As you can imagine, a huge amount of work. This is at Mask under the rocket a flimsy stool and a pipe with tanks the length of a high-rise building, we build more reliably.

[Asad]

So maybe ,, stools ,, and would be enough?

[Wedmak]

I don't think so ... With our weather conditions ...

[Volos]

And the fact that they found voids under the launch pad speaks of formally conducted geotechnical studies before the development of design documentation.

[aleksr2005]

CORRUPTION EATS THE COUNTRY. IT IS SHE TO FIND OUT THE COUNTRY, AND NOT THE WESTERN PARTNERS!

[Crowe]

“Remember, gentlemen, corruption will ruin this country.
Man from Boulevard des Capucines ©

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Interestingly, the money was immediately allocated for the entire volume or in small tranches. If they ate right away, then this is a direct expanse for theft, what is the loss of several tens of millions out of hundreds of billions of rubles. We must always give in parts for the construction of large facilities and check the spending of money. Then select the next part, small volumes are easier to control.

[Carat]

The Prosecutor General noted that from the very beginning of the construction of the cosmodrome, he was accompanied by many problems with the law, which, despite the punishment of the guiltyare still not eradicated.

I don’t remember that Rogozin was imprisoned.

[Pandiurin]

Quote: Carat

The Prosecutor General noted that from the very beginning of the construction of the cosmodrome, he was accompanied by many problems with the law, which, despite the punishment of the guiltyare still not eradicated.

I don’t remember that Rogozin was imprisoned.

Most likely there is a local construction mafia, when they still have to build a cosmodrome, so they turn their luck to the fullest. Because for the locals, this will never happen again in such a volume in their lives.

[Carat]

Quote: Pandiurin

Most likely there is a local construction mafia, when they still have to build a cosmodrome, so they turn their luck to the fullest. Because for the locals, this will never happen again in such a volume in their lives.

And who controls the financial flows? Who is responsible for all construction control?

Krasnov noted that it should monitor compliance with the rule of law when working on this strategic site every day. This task was entrusted to the management of the state corporation "Roscosmos"

[APASUS]

Is there some kind of Chubais driving there and what will the prosecutor's office do for him? Enter at least a second control there

[Carat]

Quote: APASUS

Some kind of Chubais is driving there and what will the prosecutor's office do to him? Enter at least a second control there

Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Rogozin

[Sergej1972]

Rogozin has not held this position for a long time. He is the head of Roscosmos.

[Carat]

Well, I don't really follow the rearrangement of chess pieces in the government, but this does not change the essence.

Krasnov noted that it is necessary to monitor compliance with the rule of law when carrying out work at this strategic facility every day. This task was entrusted to the management of the state corporation "Roscosmos"

[Carat]

By the way. He was the head of Roscosmos even in his old position.

[slipped]

Quote: Carat

By the way. He was the head of Roscosmos even in his old position.

By the way, under Rogozin, the work began and launches from the cosmodrome were carried out, and today they have already become regular.

[sledak]

Remember how it was at the Comedy Club? Everything, Sleep Wife!
So in the East, everything Sleep Wife, sleep, the Prosecutor General's Office. Too late to rush. Previously, it was necessary to do this all, and not when everything, Sleep Wife.
Now you can assign a supervisory officer to each worker, or better by 2, in order to follow in 4 eyes, like a diver. And it will still be like seven nannies have a child without an eye.

[Wedmak]

Now you can assign a supervisory employee to each worker

So the problem there is not in the hard workers who honestly work, but in their bosses, who decided to put in their pocket what they were not supposed to be there.

[sledak]

Quote: Wedmak

Now you can assign a supervisory employee to each worker

So the problem there is not in the hard workers who honestly work, but in their bosses, who decided to put in their pocket what they were not supposed to be there.

I completely agree! In the context of my comment, it meant that everything is already, Sleep Wife, and the genka will report that now she is watching in 4 eyes, and the sense from this will be "0", because you need to know how much is supposed to "pour concrete" and how many, stupidly speaking, concrete trucks must arrive and drain the concrete, and before that you still need to know how many and what section of reinforcement you need to enter the excavation and how many cars of this reinforcement should arrive and unload on the site under protection and all to the last reinforcement in the excavation to be collected, and in the laboratory to give a certificate for each concrete truck that it is concrete of the required grade and not mixed with manure, but the prosecutor's office will not deal with this. Under Stalin, they were put up against the wall for such things, if they were identified.

[Asad]

In short, as in the wonderful film Beware of the Automobile. Steal! They steal a lot!

[Horus]

The tower of Tsialkovsky is next in line) Rather, it would have already been completed.

[Vadim237]

The second phase of the Eastern for Angara and Union 5 is promised to be completed by the end of 2023.

[Horus]

I would like to see ahead of time, it is clear what corruption is hindering, but one thing is good that this is no longer a project.

[Gardener91]

Eeeh ... Rogozin, Rogozin ...

[Maks1995]

In the 9th year (2021-2012), the Sharp-Eye Indian noticed that arrows from a quiver were stolen from him every day.

[Dkuznecov]

A rotten head complains of a smelling tail.

[faterdom]

I think this is a formidable PR-action of the prosecutor's office, they say, this is what we are!
But it would be more effective not to "control" by the second, but to the local prosecutor's office, in which these outrageous things have risen to the skies to allocate a specific volume of earthwork in cubic kilometers. They stole a lard under your "eye" - here's a shovel, a wheelbarrow and a cubic kilometer, or there to concrete ten square kilometers, to dig a canal - a running kilometer. For two lard - respectively two kilometers, some cubic, some square, some - running.

[Curt]

so that it has not yet been built?)))

[Karos]

They want their share of the feast))))))))))))))))))

[V means B]

Why haven't they built yet ???

[d1975]

Probably not the most suitable place chosen. Better probably Kolyma or Magadan. You read and wonder that this scheme is understandable and a no-brainer. Well, they just gave too much money for the cosmodrome. This is how we build everything. Even the heads of districts and local settlements. This is what liberalism is! I can't wait for the New Year's speech GDP!

[Reserve buildbat]

And as soon as in the USSR they built without minute-by-minute reports? And they stole several times less ... And they built it faster and cheaper ... These "scoops" did not understand anything in life ... (sarcasm)