"Stalingrad turning point": the Ministry of Defense declassified the documents of the offensive operation "Uranus"

Exactly 79 years ago, on November 19, 1942, Operation Uranus began, within the framework of which the troops of the Southwestern and Don fronts surrounded a grouping of German fascist troops near Stalingrad. On the eve of this date, the Russian Ministry of Defense published declassified documents related to this operation on its website.

New multimedia section titled: "Stalingrad turning point. The battle that changed the course of the Great War" appeared on the official website of the Ministry of Defense. In this section, visitors can familiarize themselves with declassified documents from the funds of the Central Archives of the Ministry of Defense, see photographs of those years, read summaries and even the full text of the ultimatum prepared by the command of the Don Front for the command of the German group back in January 1943 and handed to Commander Friedrich Paulus much later. The text is presented in two languages.

The section is devoted to the final episode of the Battle of Stalingrad - the defeat of the Nazi group and the capture of the commander, Field Marshal Paulus

- says the website of the Ministry of Defense.

Note that this project is far from the first, the Ministry of Defense constantly publishes documents from its archives as they are declassified. On the website of the military department, you can familiarize yourself with many previously unknown documents if you visit the relevant sections on various episodes of the Great Patriotic War.

As previously stated in the Ministry of Defense, the publication of archival funds allows you to save historical the truth about the events of those years and to resist the falsification of history undertaken by the collective West in an attempt not only to diminish the role of the Soviet army in defeating fascism, but also to attribute to it the role of the aggressor who "occupied" Europe.

Comments

[Vasily Onischuk]

This is a good and right thing to do. It is necessary to declassify documents and introduce them into circulation for a wide range of readers. Too many falsifiers and other evil spirits have spread around the theme of the Great Patriotic War. Moreover, it would be okay abroad, the West will never forgive us for the victory in that War. Their homes, inside the country, spread like cockroaches.

[Proxima]

This battle is still to be studied and re-studied! Undoubtedly The Battle of Stalingrad is the number one battle in the history of the world in terms of aggregate indicators.! And the dynamics and drama of the battle generally goes off scale beyond reasonable limits. If some alternative historian came up with such a battle, then all the venerable military historians would say at once: this cannot be in principle! How did it happen? Yesterday, the emaciated soldiers fought bravely, clinging to every stone and every wall, and today blows have been delivered so strong that the 300-thousandth Wehrmacht group is surrounded and what a group !!! Incredible, but it was!

[Vasily Onischuk]

Undoubted courage, skill and heroism of soldiers and commanders. Who fought to the last and no matter what. Well, the brilliant work of the headquarters, the military and political leadership, the commanders of the fronts. Who managed to prepare and carry out such a large-scale operation. And the main thing is to do it secretly. The Germans, until the very last moment, had no idea of ​​anything like that. It didn’t even occur to them that something threatened Paulus’s group.

[lucul]

And the main thing is to do it secretly. The Germans, until the very last moment, had no idea of ​​anything like that. It didn’t even occur to them that something threatened Paulus’s group.

This suggests that the agents of German intelligence in the USSR were eliminated by 1942.
Hence the surprise.

[Shurik70]

Quote: Vasily Onischuk

This is a good and right thing to do.

Correct is correct.
But why wait 70 years?
How could the declassification of these data in 1972, for example, harm the USSR?
Then many of the participants in that battle were still alive, not to mention their children.
But they did not live to see this moment.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Vasily Onischuk

Their homes, inside the country, spread like cockroaches.

And so that these "cockroaches" have someone to beat with slippers, you need to work with young people, it is right to place accents in the study of native history ...

[NDR-791]

Quote: Doccor18

you need to work with young people, correctly emphasize the accents in the study of native history ...

We can do this at home with our children. My daughter’s history teacher at school was sent “for retraining” in the middle of the school year (I don’t remember the exact year, it was about 7-8 years ago). He returned thoughtful ... thought and thought, and then in the lesson said: "So I will not teach you, I will teach as I was taught at school." And the uncle is not young. And that's what they tried to rub in at that retraining? How to do "Kolya s Urengoy" at school ???

[Doccor18]

Quote: NDR-791

that's what they tried to rub in on him at that retraining? How to do "Kolya s Urengoy" at school ???

And why be surprised when the battles at Guadalcanal and El-Alamein in the textbooks go one line with Kursk and Stalingrad ...

[lucul]

And that's what they tried to rub in at that retraining? How to do "Kolya s Urengoy" at school ???

No, it's just that according to the new methods, each student is a “personality” and now he needs to be “begged” to assimilate knowledge, and not to put knowledge in the subcortex of the brain in any way as before.
How many children do you know who will want to learn on their own, without being forced by adults? )))

[Vasily Onischuk]

The main thing is that this work should be just work. Thoughtful and competent. Not simple formalism. Or by memorization. Otherwise, we will get the opposite effect as a result.

[Proxima]

Quote: Doccor18

need to work with young people

This is how our state "works" in full. "The Story of a Real Man" is removed from the program, and "works" by Solzhenitsyn are introduced. How do you call it? - no censorship epithets!

[Doccor18]

By yourself, by yourself. Start with your ...
And about textbooks and methods, I can’t censor ...

[den3080]

How much harm did this total Soviet classification of everything and everyone do?
I mean well-known historical events.
Nothing less than this secrecy made it possible to raise the head of the Bandera Nazi reptile, for example.
Hundreds and thousands of (literally) historians around the world had to rely on a rather short official Soviet lubok ... and the funny thing is that the main motive for such classification among the Soviet party bosses was one and ridiculously simple - "whatever happens."

[203-K]

... How much harm did this total Soviet classification of everything and everyone do?
I mean well-known historical events.

This did not cause any particular harm, because specialists could get access to almost most of the documents, except for those that required admission from the special services. And for the rest of history lovers it is difficult even now to figure out what these or those orders, directives, orders and other documents meant. Even on this forum, some authors are spreading outright disinformation about the war, either out of delusion or on the basis of pre-paid "ideas". In addition, there is a danger that the original documents will be processed in Photoshop, their essence will be changed and stuffed outside Russia, which will harm it. This is easy to predict, knowing the fate of the Mitrokhin archive or the Yakovlevsky leak of some materials abroad, which the late Ilyukhin warned about.

[den3080]

Yes, the point is not that specialists (with admission) had the opportunity to get acquainted with documents and write some dissertations, reports for a narrow circle of limited people
To the masses, as they say, this was not communicated properly.
Hence the falsifications built on facts torn out of the fabric and the meaning of events.
The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact is one of the most striking examples.
Well, many wanted to inscribe themselves personally in history beautifully, so that for centuries. Brezhnev with his "Malaya Zemlya", as the team of specialists tried there ... with tolerances, pulling the owl onto the globe.

[203-K]

... Brezhnev with his "Malaya Zemlya", as the team of specialists tried there ... with tolerances, pulling the owl onto the globe.

With regard to Brezhnev, I think that the idea of ​​"Malaya Zemlya" and other books did not belong to him personally, but most likely to Suslov and his entourage from the Central Committee. So Brezhnev did a disservice not only by writing this book, but also by praising his military leadership talents beyond measure. Although as a combat general and a participant in the Victory Parade, he commands respect from any normal person.

[den3080]

Quote: 203-K

... Brezhnev with his "Malaya Zemlya", as the team of specialists tried there ... with tolerances, pulling the owl onto the globe.

With regard to Brezhnev, I think that the idea of ​​"Malaya Zemlya" and other books did not belong to him personally, but most likely to Suslov and his entourage from the Central Committee. So Brezhnev did a disservice not only by writing this book, but also by praising his military leadership talents beyond measure. Although as a combat general and a participant in the Victory Parade, he commands respect from any normal person.

Come on. This is the fruit of the activities of the entire deceitful propaganda communist system.
One might think that Brezhnev did not like the iconostasis, which his comrades and associates in the party hung on him.

disgrace so and so if on a sober
did not fight for so many "combat general"

[203-K]

Brezhnev, you might think, did not like the iconostasis that was hung on him

What about the modern iconostases of the Polkodites who have not fought a day? And it’s not at all a modest question - if you were summoned to the Kremlin and presented with a government award for exposing the Brezhnev cult and criticizing the Soviet system, would you refuse?

[den3080]

I don’t know about the current commanders.

And the combat (really) awards of L.I. Brezhnev are known.
They are worthy of a dispute. And of course respect for that.
But the fact is that the rest, a much larger part, were hung on him much later. Including all of his Heroes of the Soviet Union, for example.
And for this they faked history, wrote false books, shot false films and received salaries / bonuses for this work, as well as orders / medals and promotion on the career / nomenclature ladder.

I don’t need awards.
... I'm sorry for the state (s)

[Gardamir]

As I remember now, in the 80s, they also pulled everything out of the archives, now it turned out to be a lie.
That such a secret suddenly needs to be declassified. It seems that under the Soviet regime, nothing was hidden about the Battle of Stalingrad.

[A. Privalov]

The Ministry of Defense declassified the documents of the offensive operation "Uranus"

From whom have they kept secret for so many years? From whom and what were they hiding?
Today's youth do not even understand what it is about.
Why weren't these documents discovered 10, 20 or 30 years ago?

[carstorm 11]

The dosage of information and its submission in portions makes it possible not to blur the topic. A common practice that is hundreds of years old. Store information and get it at the right time.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: carstorm 11

The dosage of information and its submission in portions makes it possible not to blur the topic. Store information and get it at the right time.

Yes, the reason is serious. For almost 80 years they concealed, so as not to blur ...

[carstorm 11]

Regular. They open it. Just in parts.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: carstorm 11

Regular. They open it. Just in parts.

True, hidden for years or partially revealed, is worse than deception.
Example: the report of the prosecutor's office in 1948 about 28 Panfilov's men.

[carstorm 11]

Well this is your opinion.

[Avior]

Truth in parts is not true, but manipulation.

[carstorm 11]

Information is a means. So it was and will be.

[Avior]

Honesty is the best policy.
It is logical, according to your approaches, to write honestly on papers declassified according to this principle - "This is not true, this is a means."

[Hunter 2]

Just a nightmare! (The censorship did not miss the word) Why did they wait so long? The docks had to be taken out of the secret the day before yesterday! There is something wrong with the archives.

[UA3QHP]

Just a nightmare! (The censorship did not miss the word) Why did they wait so long? The docks had to be taken out of the secret the day before yesterday! There is something wrong with the archives.

These are the features of the archiving system.
They classified the document, put it in the archive, it lies there and does not ask for it.
And in order to declassify the document, you need to write a bunch of justification papers, carry out the work, but there are not enough people. Here on the top the pointer will come and run to declassify. If it doesn’t come, it will lie there.

[Vasily Onischuk]

Under the Union, they did not want to offend the Socialist countries. The same Hungarians with the Romanians under the same Stalingrad, after all, "noted".

[Avior]

There has been no union for 30 years, Hungarians and Romanians have been in NATO for a long time, and the documents are still classified.
Not that, it turns out, the problem was and is to declassify.

[Konnick]

Quote: Gardamir

That such a secret suddenly needs to be declassified. It seems that under the Soviet regime, nothing was hidden about the Battle of Stalingrad.

It was necessary to declassify earlier documents, what the Ministry of Defense has declassified has already been studied up and down, I agree. Even Operation Monastery.

Probably, Stalin conceived the defeat at Stalingrad back in January 42, when he gave instructions to build such railways as the Volga Rockada and the Kizlyar-Astrakhan line. He understood Germany's need for resources after the failure of the Blitzkrieg and realized that it would not be possible to defeat the Wehrmacht with a conventional offensive, the industry of Europe working for Hitler could not be surpassed. And the resources Germany needed were in the southern direction.

At the beginning of the summer of 1942, the Supreme Commander-in-Chief I.V. Stalin instructs the General Staff to sketch out a major offensive in the Stalingrad area. On Stalin's instructions, the idea of ​​the Stalingrad offensive operation was developed by Colonel Potapov, a senior officer of the Operations Directorate of the General Staff, later Lieutenant General. Attempts to liberate Crimea in February were unsuccessful, and Manstein's preventive operation "Hunting for Bustards" in May ended with the defeat of the Crimean Front, and even an attempt to divert forces with the Kharkov operation failed. Stalin was greatly annoyed by the failure of the Crimean operation, because his idea to involve German troops at Stalingrad and in the steppe of the Ciscaucasia with a further strike by our troops on Rostov-on-Don from Stalingrad with blocking almost the entire southern group of the Wehrmacht could no longer take place.

But after the failures in the Crimea and the Kharkov operation distracting from the Crimea, our troops were allowed to retreat to Stalingrad, especially not offering resistance in order to stretch the front and create the preconditions for a large encirclement of German troops, especially since the Rokada was ready for Stalingrad in August, and our industry could already provide the required number of tanks and aircraft for a major offensive. The defeat at Stalingrad took place, but not to the extent that it was originally conceived with access to the Sea of ​​Azov, and even if Crimea were ours.

[Glory1974]

after failures in the Crimea and the Kharkov operation distracting from the Crimea, our troops were allowed to retreat to Stalingrad, especially not offering resistance in order to stretch the front and create the preconditions for a large encirclement of German troops

It resembles the main technique of karate - exhausting the enemy by flight.
In fact, I think there was no strategy in flight, and this is how the retreat of the troops could be characterized.
After numerous setbacks, 1942 was the most difficult year for the Red Army. The pre-war part of the army has been defeated, a new one has not yet been built. My teacher, a war veteran, at the academy spoke about the retreat across the steppes to Stalingrad in exactly this way: “We ran, ran in the literal sense of the word, overcoming 50 km a day. I was saved only by the fact that I was an athlete. But I barely survived this race. "

[Xlor]

Quote: Doccor18

And why be surprised when the battles at Guadalcanal and El-Alamein in the textbooks go one line with Kursk and Stalingrad ...

On "Echo of Moscow" Rommel's defeat in North Africa was generally called the greatest victory in WWII, which completely changed its course ...

[Konnick]

Quote: A. Privalov

True, hidden for years or partially revealed, is worse than deception.
Example: the report of the prosecutor's office in 1948 about 28 Panfilov's men

The truth about the Battle of Stalingrad was not only hushed up, but the role of Stalin was belittled for understandable reasons and the role of performers was exalted ...

[Konnick]

Quote: glory1974

My teacher, a war veteran, at the academy spoke about the retreat across the steppes to Stalingrad in exactly this way: “We ran, ran in the literal sense of the word, overcoming 50 km a day. only the fact that I was an athlete saved me. But I barely survived this race. "

And this despite the famous order 227, isn't it strange? The fact of the matter is that an order was given, without delaying the enemy in the bare steppe, to advance to the Volga and Don lines in accelerated marches. And this order was, among other things, for misinformation of the German command, like everything is bad with us, they took the bait, although some Wehrmacht generals warned of the danger of stretching the front and the forced use of the troops of the satallites on the stretched flanks. You only confirm that the Germans were lured to Stalingrad. Moreover, fresh armies marched towards Stalingrad along the Volga Rokad.

[Avior]

... go to the Volga and Don borders

The Volga and Don regions are far from the same thing.
If the Donskiys would not have affected Stalingrad.

[Konnick]

If the Donskiys would not have affected Stalingrad.

See the city of Serafimovich which river stands on. There were the Don borders.

[Avior]

The Don borders were in front of the city of Stalingrad, not after. If our task was to retreat to the water line, they would not have reached the Volga

[Alex Justice]

Rzhev is still classified. The heirs of Zhukov and Konev do not want to open the archives.

[Avior]

The partisans are still tightly classified. Only a few documents are brought to light.

[Andrey VOV]

You are wrong, the archives for Rzhev are open

[Vladimir Mashkov]

My late father-in-law was heroic when closing the ring under the command of Rokossovsky and Malinovsky for a whole month as a machine gunner. Then he was taken to the Urals with a serious wound.

[dub0vitsky]

Quote: 203-K

... How much harm did this total Soviet classification of everything and everyone do?
I mean well-known historical events.

This did not cause any particular harm, because specialists could get access to almost most of the documents, except for those that required admission from the special services. And for the rest of history lovers it is difficult even now to figure out what these or those orders, directives, orders and other documents meant. Even on this forum, some authors are spreading outright disinformation about the war, either out of delusion or on the basis of pre-paid "ideas". In addition, there is a danger that the original documents will be processed in Photoshop, their essence will be changed and stuffed outside Russia, which will harm it. This is easy to predict, knowing the fate of the Mitrokhin archive or the Yakovlevsky leak of some materials abroad, which the late Ilyukhin warned about.

You write nonsense. Experts know. Yes, don't give a damn about them. The main thing is that the people know, then these creatures, like Bandera or Kolya from Urengoy (for me they are equal) will not be either in reality or in memory. Such a long concealment of the truth involuntarily gives rise to the suspicion that we ourselves, somewhere, have blinded or crossed the line, hence the silence. Or "friends", such as Ukrainians, Romanians. Bulgarians, we do not want to bring them to the people's court. "Normandy" buzzed all ears. Three hundred Frenchmen are on our side. And the hundreds of thousands defending Berlin and the Reich Chancellery? Were they not? Just to deceive, in the name of even knows what goals, the whole people. Look how they behave now, "WINNERS". And if we knew all about them, we would treat them accordingly, without the pink syrup, you see, they would be more modest, they would know that it would not work to walk in front of us like roosters.