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The shelling of the school in Buynaksk was due to the artilleryman’s mistake

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The fall of the ammunition into the territory of the boarding school in Buynaksk was due to the error of the platoon commander. This is the result of the pre-investigation check carried out by the Main Military Investigation Department of the Investigative Committee of Russia.

It has been established that in 5 hours 20 minutes 13 September 2012, the commander of the mortar confused the main direction of fire by transferring the command to the platoon commander. This led to a change in the direction of firing at 800 meters, notes Interfax. The division of the Ministry of Defense carried out the adjustment of the fire, and the school is located on the outskirts of the city.

As a result, three 120-mm mortar mines fell on the territory of the boarding school №3 in Buynaksk, located on Forest Street. One of the fallen shells exploded, the second is not. At that time there were employees of the educational institution and children in the orphanage. By luck, no one was hurt, but the high-voltage cable was damaged and all the windows from the first to the third floor were broken in the building of the boarding school.

The incident occurred in the course of a counterterrorist operation in September in the Buinaksk region, held from 5. Military personnel of the military unit 63354 were involved in the special operation.
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  1. Nevsky
    Nevsky 15 September 2012 17: 53
    +4
    It’s good that everything worked out. Such mistakes can be expensive even in the difficult situation in the Caucasus.
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 15 September 2012 18: 11
      +4
      Quote: Nevsky
      It’s good that everything worked out. Such mistakes can be expensive even in the difficult situation in the Caucasus.

      I agree! Thank God that no one was hurt! This is the most important thing, and the glasses will be inserted ....... yes
    2. beech
      beech 15 September 2012 21: 24
      -1
      such a commander under the tribunal !!!
      1. carbofo
        carbofo 15 September 2012 21: 38
        +1
        beech,
        So it will be so, only the meaning of punishment should be reduced to increasing the responsibility of soldiers and commanders.
        And not in punishment as such
        1. beech
          beech 16 September 2012 09: 52
          0
          let them learn better materiel !!!! And if a miracle did not happen, and someone thread suffered, worse, died !!! Tribunal, no doubt and questions!
      2. crazyrom
        crazyrom 17 September 2012 06: 40
        0
        Quote: beech
        such a commander under the tribunal !!!


        There are soldier mistakes, but what genius did you think of building a school near the training ground? we are not Japan where there is no place, we have such a huge country and managed to build a school where mines could fall (or a training ground where there was already a school).
    3. 53-Sciborskiy
      53-Sciborskiy 16 September 2012 14: 43
      0
      "As a result, three 120-mm mortar mines fell on the territory of boarding school No. 3 in Buinaksk, located on Lesnaya Street. One of the shells that fell exploded, the other did not." Hence the question involuntarily arises: "Where did the third shell go?" This is not so important, but still.
  2. fern
    fern 15 September 2012 17: 58
    +4
    Hmm .. not only that such a mistake, but also the shells do not explode.
    1. beech
      beech 16 September 2012 09: 53
      0
      I'm not special, but it seems to me that the shells should be training. No?
      1. fern
        fern 16 September 2012 10: 49
        0
        Well, I don’t even know. But then they fired. Of course, in this case it’s even good that the shell did not explode. But suddenly what will happen, what will we fight if every second shell does not explode, and every third disappears altogether unknown where?
  3. Deniska999
    Deniska999 15 September 2012 17: 59
    +1
    Thank God that everything is fine, but we must be careful.
  4. Yarbay
    Yarbay 15 September 2012 18: 00
    +11
    ** As a result, three 120-mm mortar mines fell on the territory of boarding school No. 3 in Buinaksk, located on Lesnaya Street. One of the fallen shells exploded, the second isn’t. ** - slander, and what happened to the third ???
    1. Nevsky
      Nevsky 15 September 2012 18: 02
      +9
      The third went through the papers feel
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 September 2012 18: 07
      +5
      Quote: Yarbay
      slander, and what happened to the third ??

      And whether there was a third, or so far the threads cannot, where they fell. The question is, they got so caught that they shoot anywhere.
    3. Brother Sarych
      Brother Sarych 15 September 2012 18: 49
      +3
      And the third someone traded for such panties here - see Popandopulo, Wedding in Robin
    4. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 15 September 2012 19: 04
      +1
      Yeah, where is the third?
      And here is a jamb:
      "The fall of ammunition on the territory of the boarding school in Buinaksk was due to a mistake by the platoon commander."
      "It has been established that at 5 hours on September 20, 13, when the command was given to the platoon commander, the mortar commander confused the main direction of fire."
      Who is the extreme? Platoon commander or mortar commander?
      1. 76rtbr
        76rtbr 15 September 2012 23: 44
        0
        5 hours 20 minutes Sep 13 ............- it is not clear in the morning that they shot
    5. Dmitry23RUS
      Dmitry23RUS 16 September 2012 01: 39
      0
      This is a mystery .... (he was stolen by high school students to collect the bomb and make an attack against the evil Russian) somehow. this is the first thing that came to mind.
    6. wax
      wax 16 September 2012 07: 37
      0
      The third drowned.
  5. Victor
    Victor 15 September 2012 18: 09
    +7
    Until now, we have been shooting mines of the war years and the first post-war years. They were made darkness and a small box. Accordingly, fuses, too. Unfortunately, similar cases in artillery have happened and will happen, especially if the artillery commander and his crew are young and inexperienced. Yes, and with the old people there is such a good thing. The goniometer ring is not put in place and you will receive a plop please. Therefore, combat training should go every day, not weakening, bringing skills to automatism. Thank God everything worked out and the children are alive.
    1. Dmitry23RUS
      Dmitry23RUS 16 September 2012 01: 44
      -2
      Victor,
      Quote: Victor

      Until now, we have been shooting mines of the war years and the first post-war years. They were made darkness and a small box. Accordingly, fuses, too. Unfortunately, similar cases in artillery have happened and will happen, especially if the artillery commander and his crew are young and inexperienced. Yes, and with the old people there is such a good thing. The goniometer ring is not put in place and you will receive a plop please. Therefore, combat training should go every day, not weakening, bringing skills to automatism. Thank God everything worked out and the children are alive.

      Here I am tormented by one question. that you all regret children who hate Russians? angry they do not mind your children, then why are you so tolerant ??? Or do not look around ?? Forgot how they shot our guys in the back and cut our women ?? Russian, why are you ??? o_o fool
  6. snek
    snek 15 September 2012 18: 14
    +2
    This led to a change in the direction of fire by 800 meters, Interfax notes. A division of the Ministry of Defense carried out fire adjustments, and the school is located on the outskirts of the city.

    That is, to shoot at targets located less than a kilometer from the school - this is normal ...
  7. iSpoiler
    iSpoiler 15 September 2012 18: 28
    0
    This is fucking comrades ...
    no words, it's just kapets ..
    damn there people could die ..
    for such things tear off the head off.
  8. Brother Sarych
    Brother Sarych 15 September 2012 18: 51
    +1
    Well, well done - what else can you say? Indeed, it remains only to rejoice. that everything worked out ...
  9. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 15 September 2012 18: 57
    0
    God saved ...
  10. Evil Tatar
    Evil Tatar 15 September 2012 20: 07
    -5
    This is all a lie ...
    This is concealing from Moscow an attempt to carry out a terrorist act ...
    And again school!
    Moreover, the terrorist was part of the Russian military unit.

    It could be both a spotter - an officer, as well as a radio operator transmitting coordinates from the NP, and a gunner ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 September 2012 20: 14
      +1
      Quote: Angry Tatar

      And again school!
      Moreover, the terrorist was part of the Russian military unit.

      Oh e-mayo, where did the data come from or rumors about the involvement of the FSB in the bombings of houses in Moscow, the farther the farther.
  11. Beck
    Beck 15 September 2012 20: 19
    +1
    I don’t understand. Either there is a mistake on the site, or in the news of Interfax, or again the military are giving civilians noodles.

    How to understand?

    "It was established that at 5 am on September 20, 13, when transmitting the command to the commander of the VZVODA, the MORTAR commander confused the main direction of fire."

    As far as I understand, the direction of the fire should be set by the platoon commander, not the mortar commander. And the platoon commander should give digital data for horizontal and vertical interference. The mortar commander must execute the command of the platoon commander and report to - ready to fire. And at the command of the platoon commander, open fire.
    1. Vladimir 70
      Vladimir 70 15 September 2012 21: 12
      +2
      As far as I understand, the direction of the fire should be set by the platoon commander, not the mortar commander. And the platoon commander should give digital data for horizontal and vertical interference. The mortar commander must execute the command of the platoon commander and report to - ready to fire. And at the command of the platoon commander, open fire.
      Everything is correctly written in the article (almost). The platoon leader provides data for the firing of the entire fire platoon (or battery). Each gun (mortar) commander makes calculations for his gun regarding the main direction of fire and reports to the com. platoon. The platoon leader controls and, if correctly, says "YES". The soldier confused HE firing, and the platoon leader did not check the calculation.
      1. Beck
        Beck 15 September 2012 22: 42
        0
        To Vladimir.

        Thanks for clarifying.
  12. afire
    afire 15 September 2012 21: 35
    0
    the mere fact that they started upsets near the school should deprive the rank of such a commander, peacetime-children-school, but he really needs to tear off his head for such gouging
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 15 September 2012 22: 43
      0
      What are the teachings?
      The incident occurred during the counter-terrorist operation that took place on September 5 in Buinaksk region.
  13. Dinver
    Dinver 15 September 2012 23: 10
    +1
    A lot of pathos and words, but in fact the usual army crucifix ... which we always had enough ...
  14. cobra66
    cobra66 15 September 2012 23: 54
    0
    It is necessary to take into account such errors and locate polygons away from settlements
  15. GHG
    GHG 16 September 2012 02: 59
    +1
    Consider that they were shooting in the city ... what is 800 meters? Is the calculation also good, that there is no spatial orientation? It is clear that the order needs to be executed ... BUT ... there are no brains at all, or one hemisphere is missing? Even from a closed position, you can yes and you need to know in which direction you are shooting, in short everyone is to blame, now it worked out, and tomorrow?
  16. genad2
    genad2 16 September 2012 10: 23
    0
    There are mistakes ... bullyThe error of the gunner.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 16 September 2012 13: 31
      0
      Without a tattoo, it would be better.
  17. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 16 September 2012 12: 42
    0
    "... This led to a change in the direction of fire by 800 meters," And if the projectile fell 800 meters from the school, it would be normal! So them! Beat your own so that strangers are afraid! am
  18. SlavaS
    SlavaS 16 September 2012 22: 47
    0
    small funnel for 120mm.