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In the European Commission: Cessation of gas transit to Europe through Belarus will become a new type of hybrid attack from Minsk

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The countries of the European Union are responding to threats from Alexander Lukashenko to cut off the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline in the event of the introduction of another sanctions package against Belarus. Let us remind that on the eve the President of the Republic of Belarus, having called the European politicians threatening Minsk “generally headless”, reminded that Belarus can take retaliatory measures against the EU countries. One of such measures is the possible blocking of gas transit through the Belarusian GTS.


Reacting to the words of Alexander Lukashenko, the press secretary of the European Commission Dana Spinant, who was the first to announce possible sanctions against Minsk for the migration crisis on the Polish border, announced literally the following:

We will not let ourselves be intimidated.

Meanwhile, the Polish press quotes the opinion of Tomasz Pavlushko, an expert at the Sobieski (Sobieski) Institute. He says that "Belarus will not gain anything from the shutdown of the gas pipeline with Russian gas." From a publication in Wirtualna Polska:

Belarus will lose even more from this. After all, this will hit the interests of Russia.

Pavlushko notes that in this case, Russia will not receive a significant part of its income.

Pavlushko:

I doubt that the Russian president will dare to take such a step and give Lukashenka the opportunity to shut off the gas pipeline. Moreover, Russia will then have an additional argument to switch to pumping gas through the "Nord Stream-2", and for Belarus this may mean the loss of transit as such.

At the same time, the operator Gascade reported that during Thursday the volume of Russian gas transit to Europe via the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline decreased again, and significantly. The decrease was 33%. Against this background, gas prices in Europe increased by about 2% per day. Now the EU is wondering whether this is somehow connected with the threats from the Belarusian president or not.

Dana Spinant:

Gas is an important energy resource for the EU. It cannot be used in geopolitical squabbles. The cessation of gas transit to Europe through Belarus will become a new type of hybrid attack from Minsk.
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  1. riwas
    riwas 12 November 2021 07: 52
    +10
    The countries of the European Union are responding to threats from Alexander Lukashenko to cut off the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline in the event of the introduction of another sanctions package against Belarus.

    After the launch of the SP-2, a partial reduction in transit through Belarus is quite realistic.
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 12 November 2021 08: 18
      +6
      Quote: riwas
      After the launch of the SP-2, a partial reduction in transit through Belarus is quite realistic.

      He already sometimes works in reverse mode from Germany to Poland, which, like Ukraine, also trades with VIRTUAL reverse.

      But with a decrease in real pumping to Europe, the Poles have to really pump from Germany

      Europeans, of course, look generally ridiculous: they can impose sanctions, but nothing can be done against them. fool
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 12 November 2021 08: 53
        +6
        And this is due to the fact that Russia, instead of voicing its position from the official rostrum of the UN or collecting an international briefing after each unfounded accusation from the West, and clearly voicing its position and accusations against "Western partners", released only "Zakharova on Twitter "and only for the Russian-speaking audience, while the Russian Foreign Ministry and officials sat with languages ​​stuffed in one place, or Lavrov, at best, mumbled something incomprehensible, God forbid," the partners will be offended. " But it was necessary to bring partners to justice for any slightest lie and slander, up to the court. So we are reaping the fruits of such a "foreign policy" - now any word of Russia is perceived with irony or not at all, since it is not supported by anything, in terms of legal force. All sorts of military weapons pokatushki-trinkets partners in general give a damn about, on the contrary, they take them with pleasure in order to once again show you see Russia, some kind of saber-rattling, aggressive and all that, so we are talking the truth about aggressive Russia. Unfortunately, during all this time Russia has not been able to gain any weight and significant representation in international legal and arbitration structures, or create its own similar, alternative, recognized in the world structures. Russia is toothless in the international arena in terms of its legal protection and no "Caliber" and "Poseidon" here will help it.
      2. Machito
        Machito 12 November 2021 08: 54
        0
        Old Man is handsome. General Frost will quickly clear the brains of the Euro-fascist scumbags.
        1. Deck
          Deck 12 November 2021 09: 05
          +3
          This "handsome" will now be quickly cleaned with a brush by the evil uncles from Gazprom without money!
          1. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 12 November 2021 12: 31
            +9
            Quote: Deck
            This "handsome" will now be quickly cleaned with a brush by the evil uncles from Gazprom without money!

            They won't clean anything.
            Lukashenka just gave the Europeans an argument in favor of the fastest certification of the SP-2.
            Perhaps with the filing of Gazprom. hi
        2. prior
          prior 12 November 2021 10: 36
          +5
          Everyone uses the weapon they own.
          European sanctions against Belarus means it is possible, but no retaliatory ones ?!
          No, gentlemen, cannibals. It's time for you to taste "hot".
          The President of Belarus, unrecognized by you, but recognized by his people, said everything correctly.
          Deserve - rake.
          That would be more, and Putin put you with cancer for your Russophobia!
          angry
          1. Black5Raven
            Black5Raven 12 November 2021 14: 22
            -2
            Quote: prior
            but recognized by his people

            Well, well, United Russia knows better
          2. Harry.km
            Harry.km 12 November 2021 16: 47
            +1
            Quote: prior
            European sanctions against Belarus means it is possible, but no retaliatory ones ?!


            Well, in general, stopping the pumping of gas is also a sanction against Russia ... Something like this ... That is, the dad, in his anger, is already completely confusing the banks. I would have said that in response to the sanctions the EEC recognizes the Crimea! Then, I would support his decision. And then he himself created the problem himself trying to solve it and at our expense too ... He is already tired of this approach.
            1. Kerensky
              Kerensky 12 November 2021 17: 14
              -1
              Well, in general, stopping gas pumping is also a sanction against Russia ... Something like this ...

              Not this way. The gas pumped to Europe is not yet European. It is stored in European UGS facilities, but belongs to Gazprom, which pays for storage. And it becomes European when it is bought at auction. It is not profitable for Gazprom to keep a lot of gas in Europe - it has to pay for the "warehouse". It is more convenient to "bring up" as you parse.
              Of course, not all gas is like that - Gazprom fulfills its obligations under long-term contracts. But it also has a reserve that can be used to fulfill long-term contracts or put up for auction as "surplus". And this gas is already in place in Europe.
              1. Harry.km
                Harry.km 12 November 2021 17: 51
                0
                Quote: Kerensky
                Not this way.


                And what's wrong?
                Quote: Kerensky
                The gas pumped to Europe is not yet European. It is stored in European UGS facilities, but belongs to Gazprom, which pays for storage.

                And where did I write the opposite? I am writing that if the daddy threatens to stop the pumping of gas, then this will also hit the interests of Russia, since Russian gas runs through the pipe and we get money for it ...

                Once again: If dad started talking about a strategic partner and common interests, then it would not be someone else's gas that would squeeze, but the Crimea was recognized as Russian!
                1. bayard
                  bayard 13 November 2021 01: 45
                  +1
                  Quote: Harry.km
                  I write that if the daddy threatens to stop the gas pumping,

                  He not only threatens, but also REDUCED pumping by 33%, immediately after the statement. yes

                  Quote: Harry.km
                  then it will hit the interests of Russia,

                  Why would that be ??? belay
                  Russian gas in Germany immediately went up by 2%. wink
                  And the volume of gas sold strictly corresponds to ALL the concluded contracts. yes
                  Quote: Harry.km
                  since Russian gas runs through the pipe and we get a little money for it ...

                  For Russia and Gazprom today WHERE is more important than the earliest certification and the start of operation of the SP-2.
                  ... And even ... not "the fastest", because while the SP-2 is not in operation, gas prices in Europe are simply horse-drawn, and this is a super-profit in Gazprom's wallet and tax revenues. yes
                  Have you not noticed how many times in recent months there have been accidents on the Russian pipelines ... accidents ... stops for repair and maintenance ... filling their own gas storage facilities to the very eyeballs?
                  WHAT was this done for?
                  And in order to select as much gas as possible from gas storage facilities in Europe.
                  And the smaller the reserves of our (!) Gas in Europe, the HIGHER the price of gas in Europe.
                  The MORE is the profit of Gazprom and the RF budget.
                  All the more the pressure on the crazy childless politicians in Europe from the European (especially German) business, which simply gets up and suffers colossal losses so that the damned perverts do not interfere with the launch of SP-2, which is exactly what business needs. European business.
                  Quote: Harry.km
                  Once again: If dad spoke about a strategic partner and common interests, then it would not be someone else's gas

                  What's the difference lol to announce the next preventive maintenance on the gas pipeline, or to let the Old Man show off. bully
                  And in order to even less doubt the consistency of such actions, Russian bombers fly over Belarus, Russian paratroopers land, sudden checks are carried out with deployment in Belarus. bully soldier
                  What do you think, if the Old Man was a freak of gag, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation would arrange such a show circus?
                  The old man is now doing everything in relation to the EU that the Russian Federation, for various reasons, cannot do with its hands.
                  And Luka got the cheapest gas for that! good
                  Therefore, its fertilizers and other derivatives from its gas-fired industry will receive the same super-profits as the Russian ones.
                  And everyone is GOOD. bully
                  And the European perverts staged a spanking for themselves.
                  Isn't it wonderful?
                  hi
                  1. Osipov9391
                    Osipov9391 13 November 2021 03: 48
                    0
                    Now some politicians here write that if the West pushes Ukraine to seize Donbass, then the latter will become part of Russia if it carries out a peacekeeping operation. And Ukraine seems to cross out this problem for itself. Even so, deleting it.
                    But, the position of Russia will greatly worsen. And why ? And because for the United States and NATO, this is simply the best reason to deploy their elite units, air bases, offensive weapons, etc. in Kherson, Poltava, Kharkov and elsewhere.
                    Then the front line will be already near Belgorod and Kursk, which will further increase the risk of war between Russia and the alliance.
                    So half measures cannot be dispensed with. Even if Donbass peacefully becomes part of Russia.
                    The United States already has plans to create 5-6 large air bases on the territory of Ukraine. In the near future.
                    And the USA and NATO had the same plans for Crimea in 2013 ...
                    1. bayard
                      bayard 13 November 2021 04: 19
                      +1
                      Quote: Osipov9391
                      write that if the West pushes Ukraine to seize Donbass, then the latter will become part of Russia if it carries out a peacekeeping operation.

                      I am afraid that this will be a reason to close the issue of Ukraine as such.
                      "It will lose its statehood" - this means that the Russian lands will return to historical Russia, and only Hungarian and Romanian pieces will fall off from it - those that Stalin removed from the invaders as punishment.
                      Will Poland break off Galicia?
                      I would think about it very seriously.
                      Why Poland?
                      And if Poland, then what to do in the East German lands, what did Stalin give her?
                      Leave ?
                      For what merits?
                      Why are they to Russia?
                      Yes, at least for a complete denazification.
                      And if, nevertheless, a decision is made to cede these lands to Poland, Chervona Rus (!) ... then at least there will be where to expel all these "speakers of the Ukrainian language and identity" who have been resettled from Galicia in the historical Little Russia and Novorossia since the 80s ... And also Slobozhanshchina.
                      But the Ukrainian question will be closed forever and there will be no bases.
                      Do you think the US and NATO will rush to the rescue?
                      In winter?
                      By killing the European economy and freezing its population?
                      Indeed, in extreme cases, gas-liquefying capacities in Ust-Luga can be multiplied. smile
                      And sell gas carriers on the spot market.
                      Already, Gazprom is collecting a package of orders for such supplies, incl. in Latin America, prices are higher there.
                      And the contracts are long-term.
                      And the cost of the constructed gas pipeline can pay off already this winter. lol
                      The price conjuncture contributes to this.

                      But the emergence of the MRBM in Europe is already serious.
                      For this, the price cannot be reduced in ANY way.
                      We use this money to build a fleet and deploy missiles in Cuba.
                      "Bad pays twice."
                      "And the greedy one - three times."
                      Let them pay - for the 4th energy package, for the MRBM in Europe, for sanctions and "non-recognition of Crimea", for the war in Donbass, for their ships in the Black Sea, for Vitka Bout in their prison ... for Navalny's shorts and Skripal's cat. .. for all .
                      Debt good turn deserves another .

                      So Zelensky today has nowhere to run ... and the oligarchs conspired to hunt him down.
                      And what's a poor pianist to do?
                      Is that like in his film about "300 Jews" ... give up?
                      So Comrade Katz suggests.
                      1. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 13 November 2021 14: 56
                        +1
                        MRBMs in Europe (Poland and Romania) already exist or may be tomorrow.
                        This is the latest modification of the SM-3 anti-missile.
                        It is very easy to convert it into an offensive one by rebooting the computer and replacing
                        head part.
                        We are talking about a compact nuclear charge of low power, possibly penetrating
                        underground and exploded there with the aim of seismic waves to destroy the command post.
                        All the developers of our strategic missiles keep repeating this. And this has been known for a long time.
                        Why did the States come to our border with their "missile defense" which, according to its intended purpose, will not do anything in a massive missile attack, simply because of its small numbers.
                        But here's how the offensive means of the first strike is the very thing.
                      2. bayard
                        bayard 13 November 2021 17: 07
                        +1
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        This is the latest modification of the SM-3 anti-missile.

                        Any missile defense system can be used to strike ground targets, this is an axiom. And a low-power nuclear warhead can probably be installed on it ... The question is that the SM-3 is a direct hit missile, there is no warhead there. This means that the installation of such a warhead will reduce the range and speed of such a missile. If you make such a warhead penetrating, then it should become even heavier - without this in any way, strength cannot be ensured. And that means again - a reduction in range and flight characteristics.
                        But you can.
                        Or you can simply install it in the Tomahawk cells.
                        But the main benefit from these missile defense position areas in Europe is their radar stations, which scan the air and outer space over the Russian Federation for thousands of kilometers. And precisely for the sake of such control of the European part of the Russian Federation, it was possible to puff into the ears of the allies about anti-missiles and about increasing their security.
                        But the threat that a classic-type MRBM may soon appear in Europe, for the sake of which they abolished the INF Treaty, is already more serious. This is no longer a surrogate, but a quite serious threat, against which the deployment of the S-500 and the previously unheard-of S-550 began.
                        Still, the best answer is the mirror threat.
                      3. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 13 November 2021 17: 39
                        +1
                        That is, the conversion of interceptor missiles into medium-range missiles is this handicraft?
                        But when developing them, this is laid down. In general, they were all created on the basis of attack missiles. There, some kind of anti-ship missile served as a prototype.
                      4. bayard
                        bayard 13 November 2021 17: 54
                        +1
                        Any missile defense system is much more complicated and more expensive than its modern anti-ship missile system, because it must hit a high-speed target in three-dimensional space, as opposed to hitting a stationary or slow-moving (ship) target on a conventional plane. Therefore, outdated missiles are often used as anti-ship missiles and for striking ground targets. When hitting stationary targets on the ground, their range can be 2 - 2,5 times higher than their range as a missile defense system.

                        Therefore, making a conventional MRBM is much easier than a missile defense system, but its warhead will be much more powerful, and the guidance system will be simpler.
                  2. www3
                    www3 13 November 2021 22: 33
                    -1
                    something the author -> author -> the author modestly kept silent that Miller issued a tweet stating that the pumping through the Ukrainian gas transport system was increased according to possible losses through Yamal-Europe. You can close it along with transit losses.))
                    peramogue she is so peramogue ....))
                    1. bayard
                      bayard 14 November 2021 00: 12
                      0
                      Quote: www3
                      the author modestly kept silent that Miller tweeted

                      To date, Gazprom has reduced the daily volume of pumping through Yamal-Europe by 40% wink due to inexpediency. yes
                      And this is even without the participation of Batka.
                      And only as much is pumped through the Ukrainian gas transportation system as specified in the contract. yes
                      But SP-1 is working at full capacity. It is understandable - it is cheaper, more reliable and will not be stolen this way.
                      Yes, and in the gas storage facilities of Gazprom in Europe there is still enough gas - from there they get the supply volumes.
                      In Europe, of course, they would like Gazprom to fill these storage facilities to the brim ... only the owner knows better in which of the pockets to store the gas. It is now more convenient to store it in Russian gas storage facilities. yes
                      And the fact that in Europe prices are growing due to panic, that gas is decreasing in storage facilities on their territory ... so this is their problem. bully They gave up long-term contracts and oil pricing schemes, right?
                      Refused. yes
                      4th energy package imposed on Gazprom?
                      Imposed. yes
                      Have you decided to buy gas at spot prices?
                      Decided . yes
                      Well, who is to blame for whom?
                      Where are the molecules of freedom?
                      Where are the alternative suppliers?
                      In Southeast Asia and South America - where prices are higher and legislation is easier.
                      So Gazprom, as it builds its gas-liquefying capacities on the Baltic coast, will immediately be lucky, according to the laws of the market, to those who pay more and make fewer claims with their "totalitarian gas".
                      You ask, "What about the constructed pipe?"
                      I will answer - there are half of the risks on Western partners, the payback period is spelled out ... 20 years, if I am not mistaken ... And these loans will pay off in the coming months with superprofits from prices that have skyrocketed through no fault of ours. yes
                      "But what about Old Man without transit?" - you ask again?
                      Yes, great !
                      He now receives gas at a price 7 to 10 times lower than the world price. For his chemical and energy industries, this is just Paradise. smile
                      Now he will more than cover all possible losses on the fertilizers that have risen in price alone.
                      Even if he keeps his word and turns off the valve.
                      How else to raise rabid dogs?
                      Only hunger and a stick.
                      And isolation.
                      From totalitarian energy resources.
                      Moreover, they (Poland, Ukraine, the Baltic states and everyone who will join them in a round dance) arranged such isolation for themselves.
                      There is no coal in Ukraine ... smile
                      And who is to blame for her?
                      And coal this year has risen in price by 3,5 - 4 times ... wink
                      And with the beginning of the heating season and against the background of the energy crisis in the EU and China, it may continue to rise in price. yes
                      Green energy is a harsh thing ... hungry and cold ...
                      No, you can, of course, again compose fines for Gazprom ...
                      Can . yes
                      But this will not add gas to Europe, but it will certainly increase prices.
                      Well, Biden does not have gas for them - all went to China.
                      ... Unless he throws his little bit repeat
                      It's not for nothing that they have already nicknamed it "Vintage Gas Generator".
                      But this will clearly not be enough.
                      bully hi
          3. CAT BAIYUN
            CAT BAIYUN 12 November 2021 16: 55
            +1
            No, gentlemen, cannibals.

            Here is the name "cannibals" well, very to the point and in the case reflects the essence of euro-slippers.
            The transit is unlikely to be closed ... But the phrase about the shutdown of transit has already influenced spot prices. So everything is framed. If you don't know where to hit, hit it on your pocket.
    2. Vend
      Vend 12 November 2021 09: 08
      +9
      How to arrange a color revolution in Belarus is normal, but as a response from Belarus, it is unacceptable laughing Double standards in action
  2. alex neym_2
    alex neym_2 12 November 2021 07: 53
    +4
    So the second point of tension with the onshore gas pipelines has appeared! So, the launch of the SP-2 is not far off.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 12 November 2021 14: 46
      +3
      Brussels' corridor of opportunities is constantly narrowing.
      And it is right. It's good! bully
  3. Labrador
    Labrador 12 November 2021 07: 55
    +23
    European Commission spokesman Dana Spinant: "Gas is an important energy resource for the EU. It cannot be used in geopolitical squabbles."

    It’s clear: we will sanction you, and you don’t offend us. We impose sanctions in your interests. fool
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 12 November 2021 07: 57
    +7
    In the European Commission: Cessation of gas transit to Europe through Belarus will become a new type of hybrid attack from Minsk
    ... And what should Lukashenka do ???
    So to put things in order at their border, FOR THE BEGINNING! And deal with all the legal aspects of that "performance - a tragedy" !!!
    In such a case, it is necessary to check and recheck everything more thoroughly, to "break the wood" always has time !!!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 12 November 2021 08: 20
      0
      hi hello, Victor! Now we hear European:
      And what about us? ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 November 2021 08: 26
        0
        Hi Dmitry soldier
        Quote: Reptiloid
        Now we hear European:

        Exactly. And the most difficult thing in all this is that there are NOT MANY who, in the issue of cooperation with Russia, adhered to the position of common sense, will now be "hounded and driven", as ... they themselves must understand who.
        This is not good for both us and them ... but the mainstream does not care, but ours can, can lose ... lose.
        Moreover, the CASE arose through the fault of a specific "collective farmer" who did not know what he was thinking and twiddled his tail before anyone knew.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 12 November 2021 09: 36
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          . soldier CASE arose through the fault of a specific "collective farmer" who did not know what he was thinking about and twiddled his tail in front of whom.

          The Poles climbed into the bottle, and the actions of S.G.L. quite understandable --- he still wanted to live in peace and friendship with all his neighbors, about which he repeatedly spoke, and his neighbors considered him illegitimate. Yes and negative Poles am intolerant of steel, not according to EU rules. Although with refugees --- he is in vain, in my opinion, in any case, an extra burden for his country
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 12 November 2021 09: 55
            -1
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Although with refugees --- he is in vain, in my opinion, in any case, an extra burden for his country

            Such a mess only plays into the hands of our common enemies !!! And, to a greater extent, it was the "chairman of the collective farm" that suited him, because, judging by the events, he DOES NOT RATE to a serious politician, from any side.
            Honestly, I didn’t treat him well before, but he didn’t arrange such a setup for himself and others because of his great mind! HOW MUCH CAN YOU ENDURE THIS, LOOK AT IT ???
            After all, he clearly spied on the Sultan and wanted what he wanted! And instead of the babosiks, he will be thrown in all over the face ... by the way, first of all, the citizens will get it !!! Yes, and it will fall on us!
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 12 November 2021 10: 10
              +4
              If he knows that Russia will help, then he leads accordingly. But --- This year's parade was held on May 9 and on November 7 they have an official holiday. And I like their films about the Second World War.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 12 November 2021 10: 19
                -2
                So take a look, a versatile leader.
                But only when the versatility spreads beyond the limits of reason, you can, after all, lose the main line.
                Is this permissible?
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 12 November 2021 10: 31
                  0
                  Well, yes, the multi-vector approach did not help, was not considered legitimate and began to destabilize.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 12 November 2021 10: 56
                    +1
                    And who could sit on several chairs endlessly?
                    Everyone ended up the same in the end.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 12 November 2021 12: 16
                      +1
                      Quote: rocket757
                      ...... ended up the same.

                      Well, yes! Between the chairs on the floor
              2. prior
                prior 12 November 2021 10: 57
                +3
                But why do you call the desire of a Central European country, Belarus, to have good-neighborly relations with other European and not only European countries, multi-vector?
                Is Russia one-vector?
                Lukashenka was elected to defend the interests of which country?
                This is how he can and how he can defend them, even if someone in Russia or Gazprom does not like it.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 12 November 2021 12: 23
                  -1
                  Quote: prior
                  But why do you call the desire of a Central European country, Belarus, to have good-neighborly relations with other European and not only European countries, multi-vector?

                  How did it help him?
                  So it is very likely that his stretching ... almost reached the point of rupture. And who helped him then, supported him?
                  In short, he wants to stand in a rasp, a flag between the buns ...
                  1. prior
                    prior 12 November 2021 13: 05
                    -2
                    I don’t know him.
                    But he did not set up the Palaces according to Praskovey either.
                    Airuses and supersonic aircraft are not being developed for him.
                    Friends and acquaintances of the oligarchs he has not count, for not having such.
                    He did not send children abroad.
                    As for me, a successful collective farm chairman is better than a person who promised not to raise the retirement age or change the constitution as its guarantor.
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 12 November 2021 13: 27
                      +1
                      "The collective farm is a voluntary matter," they elected their chairman, NO questions, although there are enough oddities ... but this is not our business.
                      For the rest, incl. to you listed ... this is also not our business.
                      There are questions on other positions, but this is "higher mathematics" and we were obviously not invited there ... to discuss or advise!
                      That's just the opinion, the attitude, our / mine, is and will not change, because there is nothing for him to change.
                      But, this is precisely a private opinion that does not interest anyone.
                      1. prior
                        prior 12 November 2021 13: 49
                        +1
                        It is often more difficult to answer than to ask.
                        To the question how many will be twice two, in addition to the well-known, there is also such an answer - how much do you need?
                        hi
                      2. rocket757
                        rocket757 12 November 2021 13: 56
                        +1
                        It is very useful to know how much you need!
                        But alas, as many people as there are, there will be so many different answers, most likely.
                        Neither mathematics nor logic will help here.
                    2. Black5Raven
                      Black5Raven 12 November 2021 14: 27
                      -2
                      Quote: prior
                      But he did not set up the Palaces according to Praskovey either.

                      In Belarus alone, this kolkhoz king has SIXTEEN OFFICIAL residences. Apart from the "palaces of justice and court" where people are also not allowed. Apart from the residences in Sochi and the Arabs.
                      1. prior
                        prior 12 November 2021 14: 33
                        -1
                        For so many years, only sixteen ?! belay
                        Even somehow inconvenient .. No.
                        Well, what can I say, modesty adorns a person.
                    3. www3
                      www3 13 November 2021 22: 49
                      -1
                      the impression that you still have the only source of information is the newspaper "Pravda"))
  5. YOUR
    YOUR 12 November 2021 08: 05
    +6
    Interesting what. Those. when they start to shit, it's okay, as soon as they weren't even answered, but only threatened with an answer, immediately screaming, and we are for what
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 12 November 2021 08: 11
      +1
      Quote: YOUR
      when they start to shit, this is normal, as soon as they were not even answered, but only threatened with an answer, immediately into a scream, and then for what

      Hybrid attack, you say? And you do not meddle where you are not asked. We decided to scare you with your "hamster"! )))
    2. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 12 November 2021 08: 17
      +3
      Have you got used to imposing sanctions against Russia, then against Belarus. Is Europe untouchable? That again, there are only hegemons around us?
  6. zwlad
    zwlad 12 November 2021 08: 14
    +4
    At the same time, the operator Gascade reported that during Thursday the volume of Russian gas transit to Europe via the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline decreased again, and significantly. The decrease was 33%. Against this background, gas prices in Europe increased by about 2% per day. Now the EU is wondering whether this is somehow connected with the threats from the Belarusian president or not.

    So think now, whether it is worth yapping in the direction of the dad or it is cheaper to be silent.
    Correctly someone wrote - Russophobia should be expensive.
  7. Genak
    Genak 12 November 2021 08: 16
    +1
    Open Joint Stock Company Gazprom Transgaz Belarus is a 100% subsidiary of PJSC Gazprom.
    European officials have long been degraded, they make many statements relying on their meager mind, the main thing is to fart loudly under loud applause, lacking knowledge and competence.
    1. Machito
      Machito 12 November 2021 08: 57
      -1
      The gas pipeline could be accidentally blown up. For example Bandera.
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 12 November 2021 09: 08
        +1
        Quote: Bearded
        The gas pipeline could be accidentally blown up. For example Bandera.

        Then dad will not have to threaten, they will step on the song by themselves. And over the edge more than they drive, they will not drive. Only SP-2 will be launched faster.
  8. Seld
    Seld 12 November 2021 08: 17
    -2
    Sanctions...
    "This is a new word in science and technology! Ugh at you again! ..." K.F. "Ivan Vasilievich ..."
    I remember: the Ostankino tower caught fire - on the forums everyone immediately became specialists in radio communications; "Kursk" drowned - all the submariners at once; the war in Georgia - all strategists of the level of Napoleon. Not less.
    Now - sanctions. Forums react accordingly.
    Okay! A question for experts in the field of sanctions and macro / micro economies: list, pzhlsta, at least 10 sanctions against, for example, the Russian Federation, which dramatically, fatally, changed your previously very well-fed life. Here, straight, with specific examples, pzhlsta; like: I wore Armani and Kazal before the sanctions, and now I crawl through the garbage in rags.
    Sanctions ... For the Republic of Belarus, in my personal opinion, there are no sanctions that could shatter the economy of the country named after Butler. So there was an economic muddle of this state. This is how the geopolitical situation of this republic was formed. But this topic is not for the forum. In principle, probably not for my level. What is really there. I will not hide.
  9. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 12 November 2021 08: 19
    0
    Whoever takes a pack of migrants will receive .... But they will not take it. We will turn off the gas. BGGG)
  10. Kronos
    Kronos 12 November 2021 08: 23
    -3
    You might think Belarus is a gas-producing country with a GDP similar to that of China. Lukashenka banally uses his "elder brother" throwing up ideas. After all, his mentality is at the level of the text from the "interception"
    President Lukashenko has proven to be a tough nut to crack.
  11. Yulian
    Yulian 12 November 2021 08: 39
    -7
    And after the gas, Father can declare a war to the West and Russia will fight for it ?!
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 12 November 2021 08: 44
    -3
    What kind of patience does it take to communicate with these half-witted Gay Europeans? Putin, Lavrov and other comrades need to pass 3 liters of milk a day as harmful. Personally, I would not have been enough for half an hour, so I would have given in the face for nonsense and slander.
  13. Nexcom
    Nexcom 12 November 2021 08: 56
    0
    I wrote yesterday in another thread, I reported the news - on Euronews, Ursulka announced that the EU had prepared a draft of a new package of sanctions on Belarus for provocations with migrants on the Polish border. I have no doubt that if Batko also tightens the valve in return for them, they will whine even more trenchantly, and even after additional sanctions they will not rust. The old man simply has nowhere else to go - the second chair was pulled out, he has to snap back. Ours are still silent and are not yet commenting on Batkin's bites.
  14. askort154
    askort154 12 November 2021 09: 00
    0
    He will cut off the gas. fool The blackmailer decided to play internationally, not thinking to whose mill he was pouring water. The United States fought against SP-2 for two years, imposing sanctions on everyone, convincing the EU that with the help of SP-2 Russia would blackmail the EU in its political interests.
    To which Putin has repeatedly stated that both the USSR and Russia never used such methods, even during the period of exacerbations. Oil and gas were supplied to Europe without breaking contracts.
    And this "blackmailer" got out with his method of "bending over Europe". And this is at the moment when the last step remained before the launch of the SP-2. And this step is the certification of the SP-2, which the opponents of the SP-2 are still trying to stop. And it was at this stage that Lukashenka decided to "bend Europe", to show how "tough" he became after signing an alliance with Russia, making an adventure with "refugees" and "cutting off the gas". Now Putin is trying to fix something, he spoke with Merkel twice, but they have not yet found a way out of the situation.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 12 November 2021 09: 11
      0
      so he promised not to fasten SP2, he seems to have promised to fasten Yamal. these are different pipes. or not?
      1. askort154
        askort154 12 November 2021 09: 21
        +1
        Nexcom so he promised not to fasten SP2, he seems to have promised to fasten Yamal. these are different pipes. or not?

        Who cares. All pipes go to Europe from Russia with Russian gas.
        It is Russia that fulfills its obligations on contractual supplies, and not Lukashenka, who, using the Ukrainian method, decided to blackmail on gas transit. hi
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 12 November 2021 09: 42
          +1
          All pipes go to Europe from Russia with Russian gas.
          It is Russia that fulfills its contractual obligations, not Lukashenka


          That's for sure. In the European Commission, voices are already heard that this is a joint blackmail of Moscow and Minsk. Moreover, Moscow is silent and does not declare anything. In short, for the sake of momentary benefit, according to the certification of SP 2, your rulers risk their reputation and new sanctions. And with Belarus it is completely bad - either take it right away and unite there or take this collective farm chief to hell. It spoils your reputation in the eyes of Belarusian citizens as well. It won't be an hour to turn them into number two Ukrainians ...
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 12 November 2021 11: 08
            +1
            Quote: Keyser Soze
            That's for sure. In the European Commission, voices are already heard that this is a joint blackmail of Moscow and Minsk. Moreover, Moscow is silent and does not declare anything. In short, for the sake of momentary benefit, according to the certification of SP 2, your rulers risk their reputation and new sanctions.

            Come on, come on. One might think the European Commission used to be an ardent supporter of Moscow and the SP-2, but now "its voices were heard." If Moscow fulfills its contractual obligations in full, how will this affect its reputation? The volumes of gas that will fall out as a result of the shutdown of the valve in Minsk will be supplied through the Turkish Stream, SP-1 and the Ukrainian gas transportation system through which the transit volumes in recent days reached a maximum of 109 million cubic meters per day out of 109.2 million provided for in the contract). And why not test the possibility of redirecting gas flows along other routes, especially when there is a suitable reason to slap Europe on the nose in the same test mode?
            1. Keyser soze
              Keyser soze 12 November 2021 12: 39
              -1
              You might think the European Commission used to be an ardent supporter of Moscow and SP-2,


              No, it wasn't. And it won't. But I said it in a different sense - the European Commission is sooooo slowly swinging and taking decisions. And he is very careful with his language. Everything is diplomatic and cultural there. And this blockhead binds you in a direct confrontation, moreover, in the language of an unfinished Selyuk. Do you want this?
              And about slap Europe on the nose - well, slap. And what is the goal?
              While you are clapping sales of cars on diesel, in the EU, for the first time in history, they fell under the sales of electric cars. The EU has begun to say it will pour more money into the green transition because dependence on imports is unacceptable. What what and money in Europe in bulk, so high prices will not frighten anyone.
              And second, do not think that inflation will not affect you either. Everything that you buy in the EU and in the world will rise in price significantly and your oil hucksters will pull you on high fuel prices (and from there on all goods) and even with great pleasure. Everyone needs yachts ... laughing
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 12 November 2021 13: 31
                +1
                Quote: Keyser Soze
                I said this in a different sense - the European Commission is sooooo slowly swinging and taking decisions. And he is very careful with his language. Everything is diplomatic and cultural there.
                It is in vain that you give the European Commission the authority to speak on behalf of Europe, since it is one of the "dolls" on Washington's hand, and therefore it broadcasts exactly what it is recommended from there, often to the detriment of Europe's interests.
                Quote: Keyser Soze
                And about slap Europe on the nose - well, slap. And what is the goal?
                They have a "pre-president" of Belarus S. Tikhanovskaya hanging around there. Let her decide this issue lol And if they cannot, they can directly appeal to Lukashenka, thereby confirming his legitimacy.
                Quote: Keyser Soze
                While you are clapping, sales of diesel cars in the EU, for the first time in history, fell under the sales of electric cars. The EU has begun to say it will pour more money into the green transition because dependence on imports is unacceptable.

                Blessed is he who believes. Green energy is certainly not bad, but it strongly depends on weather conditions (in winter the windmills were frozen, there was no wind in the summer) and if it somehow cope with household needs, it will definitely not pull the industry out. The fact that the world will eventually move from an internal combustion engine to batteries is inevitable, but this is an element of the evolution of the automotive industry, like the transition from steam boilers to internal combustion engines, but the need for diesel fuel and gasoline will still remain for at least 100-150 years, for the same army in any country.
                Quote: Keyser Soze
                What what and money in Europe in bulk, so high prices will not frighten anyone.
                The national debt of the euro area has exceeded GDP and by the end of 2021 will amount to 102,3%, in other words, Europe is already idling. The ongoing pandemic and the infusion of empty babos into the economy will not make Europe richer.
                Quote: Keyser Soze
                And second, do not think that inflation will not affect you either. Everything that you buy in the EU and in the world will rise in price significantly
                No, I do not think that inflation will not affect Russia, moreover, we all observe it online. And the fact that goods are becoming more expensive, so this scourge whistles not only over Russia. There have been times worse.
                Quote: Keyser Soze
                and your oil hucksters will pull you on high fuel prices and even with great pleasure.

                Well, as a matter of fact, the rise in fuel prices is observed in the United States and Great Britain, and therefore the hucksters are the same everywhere, without being burdened with a high sense of patriotism and are an international in making a profit.
                Quote: Keyser Soze
                Everyone needs yachts ...

                Even though I'm not a huckster, I don't need her for nothing yes hi
    2. Victor Leningradets
      Victor Leningradets 12 November 2021 09: 37
      0
      To grovel in front of the buyer is the wrong marketing!
      The correct one is to block the Belarusian transit, and to destroy the Ukrainian GTS.
      Volens-Nolens will have to SP-2 and certify (within a day) and launch all the threads at full capacity. The South Stream is also promising.
      Quote from the movie "Red Square":
      Machine gunner Karpushonok (by the way, Belarusian):
      "He is not only an honor to us ... He will bow to us at our feet!"
  15. ioan-e
    ioan-e 12 November 2021 09: 07
    +1
    I would like to know, is the right to hybrid and other attacks somehow assigned only to the West? How they put pressure on all fronts, this is normal, but we are even denied the right to defend ourselves! In other matters, what am I talking about? A reliable guarantee of Western loyalty is a powerful military base in each of the European capitals!
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 12 November 2021 09: 14
      0
      Vooot. That's right - only they have the right to decide who is right and who is punished. This and zadolbalo - nowhere else. A sort of bearers of the ultimate truth.
      1. ioan-e
        ioan-e 12 November 2021 10: 28
        0
        Quote: Nexcom
        A sort of bearers of the ultimate truth.

        And also propagandists of all sorts of perversions! hi
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 12 November 2021 10: 30
          0
          they have it already the norm. this is not accepted by us. and thank God.
          1. ioan-e
            ioan-e 12 November 2021 10: 31
            0
            Quote: Nexcom
            they have it already the norm. this is not accepted by us. and thank God.

            Exactly!
      2. lucul
        lucul 12 November 2021 11: 33
        -5
        Vooot. That's right - only they have the right to decide who is right and who is punished. This and zadolbalo - nowhere else. A sort of bearers of the ultimate truth.

        God's chosen ones)))
        That's what ideology does to people)))
  16. Nafanya from the sofa
    Nafanya from the sofa 12 November 2021 09: 39
    +1
    The Belarusian "pipe" belongs to "OJSC" Gazprom transgaz Belarus "- a subsidiary of" Gazprom "", i.e. Russia.
    Batko decided to dispose of other people's property? Or maybe he decided to "throw" Gazprom and nationalize Beltransgaz?
    Oh well. Svetka the Cutlet may have a chance.
  17. askort154
    askort154 12 November 2021 09: 42
    +1
    Victor Leningradets To grovel in front of the buyer is the wrong marketing!

    Look not at the level of stall trade, but at strategic contracts between states. And Luka has nothing to do with Russian contracts, even after the signing of the union agreement. He did not "bent" Europe, he created problems for both Belarus and Russia. Is it really not clear.
    1. lucul
      lucul 12 November 2021 11: 38
      -5
      Look not at the level of stall trade, but at strategic contracts between states

      Well, look.
      Greta Thunberg should give Lukashenka a medal - as an ardent supporter of decarbonization in the world.
      If Lukashenka turns off the gas for them, then the Europeans should be happy, after all, Lukashenka will rid Europe of "dirty" Russian gas and speed up their transition to kosher green energy, no? ))))
  18. grassyknollgunner
    grassyknollgunner 12 November 2021 09: 45
    -1
    Dad, don't be silly! fool
  19. fa2998
    fa2998 12 November 2021 10: 27
    0
    Quote: zwlad
    - Russophobia should be expensive.

    Russophobia is when Russian gas is cut off for the sake of their own purposes. This "marshal" does not get out of the Kremlin, he begs for loans and benefits, so he even thought of a financial sabotage towards Russia. If consumers are left without gas, they will immediately run to court, and they will be right! And compensation will fall on the shoulders of Russia (Gazprom). hi
  20. pytar
    pytar 12 November 2021 11: 53
    -1

    The game that Lukashenka started is fraught with great losses for Russia! Both material and image!

    The countries of the European Union are responding to threats from Alexander Lukashenko to cut off the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline in the event of the introduction of another sanctions package against Belarus.


    Opponents of energy cooperation with Russia receive weighty arguments!
    1.Russia is billed as a partner that cannot be counted on!
    2.Gas supplies from Russia are dependent on third parties using the reket to achieve their local goals! / do you think the current rally conducted by Lukashenka does not resemble the Ukrainian one a few years ago? /
    3. There are suspicions that VVP is behind Lukashenka, that is, he is an accomplice of provocation with migrants! Some believe that VVP is thus from the hands of Lukashenka himself, wants to get Belarus, which is falling into the abyss, and also to push through the certification of SP2. In fact, it is not known how much the GDP controls Lukashenka, there are really many questions here!
    As a result of Lukashenka's provocative actions, supporters of diversification of gas supplies in Europe will receive powerful support. Alternative design projects, competitive with Russian ones, will attract attention and funding.
    1. pytar
      pytar 12 November 2021 18: 56
      0
      The Kremlin reacted to Lukashenka's threats to suspend gas transit.
      Alexander Lukashenko's statement on the possible suspension of gas transit to Europe was not coordinated with the Kremlin. This statement was made by the press secretary of the Russian President D. Peskov. He also stated that Russia will fulfill its obligations to supply gas to Europe. “Russia was, is and will be a country that fulfills all obligations to provide European consumers with gas and to fulfill contractual obligations. The reliability of Russia as a supplier and as a partner under current and future contracts is beyond question ", - he said.
      https://www.rbc.ru/politics/12/11/2021/618e3de89a79476b4f7e22ad

      Gazprom "chilled" the self-forgotten dictator:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDXMQLI3DfA
  21. Kerensky
    Kerensky 12 November 2021 17: 30
    +2
    Gas is an important energy resource for the EU. It cannot be used in geopolitical squabbles.

    Well, from here one step to: "Gas belongs to all mankind, regardless of the country in which it is produced!"
    True, the Arabs can be against ...
  22. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 12 November 2021 20: 18
    0
    As I understand it, these geyrowings are the easiest to translate into Russian, like "but what for us? !!!" laughing
  23. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 13 November 2021 11: 15
    0
    But father is a hybrid otakue.