The Russian military has developed a system of protection against group drone attacks

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The emergence of new unmanned aerial vehicles and methods of their use makes us look for ways to protect and counter UAVs. Along with systems and means of neutralizing single drones there are other developments that provide for the fight against a group attack.

A new complex of protection against drones was developed at the Combined Arms Academy of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. It is designed to protect important objects and is a dome-type fence capable of destroying drones using electricity discharges. The new development has already been patented.



As follows from the description of the patent, the basis of protection is made up of two mesh domes, capable of operating in the modes of repulsion and destruction of drones. In the first case, the system simply does not allow the UAV to enter the object without damaging them, in the second, it neutralizes. The complex automatically determines the number of UAVs, their trajectories and other parameters, after which protection is activated.

The system includes: UAV detection and video surveillance devices, energy conversion devices and power supplies, as well as an automated operator station.

According to the developers, the system is designed to protect critical facilities such as nuclear power plants, oil storage facilities, etc. from a group attack by drones, when the use of traditional methods of countering UAVs is ineffective.

Other details about the new anti-UAV system are not given, whether the development will receive further development with subsequent adoption, time will tell.
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  1. +6
    11 November 2021 11: 39
    Barrage type of balloons, chtol?

    Pzhalte - network.
    Nothing sensible will come of it without programmable shells for MZA
    1. +3
      11 November 2021 11: 57
      Didn't think about birds?
      And on the other hand, to breed eagles, falcons. The goal (s) up to 5 kg are clearly within their power
      1. +12
        11 November 2021 12: 00
        Quote: knn54
        Theirs is what.


        And the monuments generally hate them)
    2. +2
      11 November 2021 12: 14
      And it's better like this:
  2. +12
    11 November 2021 11: 41
    Nothing is clear, but very interesting!
    1. +2
      11 November 2021 13: 41
      Quote: Tavi
      Nothing is clear, but very interesting!

      We have such devices, but we will not show them to you!
  3. +5
    11 November 2021 11: 43
    capable of destroying drones with electric discharges
  4. +7
    11 November 2021 11: 43
    The air around the laser beam is ionized; under certain conditions, this can be used to apply voltage along the beam.
    This is what I fantasize about. While at home, the charge is not far away.
    1. +10
      11 November 2021 11: 49
      Quote: APASUS
      While at home, the charge cannot be applied far
      You are there, experiment more carefully at home.
      1. +4
        11 November 2021 11: 52
        Quote: Tavi
        You are there, experiment more carefully at home.

        I’m not quite wooden to the waist. Home conditions imply the absence of certain equipment and time, of course, it’s more of a hobby.
        1. 0
          11 November 2021 23: 58
          Quote: APASUS
          I'm kind of not quite waist-deep wooden.

          This is just understandable - you write somehow. Or did you mean the bottom part? feel
      2. +5
        11 November 2021 12: 06
        Quote: Tavi
        You are there, experiment more carefully at home.

        So you can burn the whole village.
    2. +11
      11 November 2021 12: 11
      Quote: APASUS
      While at home, the charge cannot be applied far

      Crap! Samodelkin ... lol
      And then we are perplexed: and why are our entrances exploding? belay
      (And what does GAZ have to do with it,
      when "there are such people in the Soviet country!")
      1. +6
        11 November 2021 12: 20
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Crap! Samodelkin ...

        - Such experiments, dear Alexander Sergeevich, should be done with the permission of only the relevant authorities! (C)
    3. +8
      11 November 2021 12: 24
      "A cute girl named Rita
      she scratched her ass with a piece of dynamite.
      The explosion sounded on Zhdanov Street -
      feet in Medvedkovo, priest in Chertanovo ".
    4. +2
      11 November 2021 12: 36
      The air around the laser beam is ionized; under certain conditions, this can be used to apply voltage along the beam.
      This is what I fantasize about. While at home, the charge is not far away.
      wait, they will knock on you soon wink good
    5. +1
      11 November 2021 13: 17
      You would have changed Ivan Vasilyevich's profession !!!
    6. 0
      11 November 2021 22: 48
      Quote: APASUS
      The air around the laser beam is ionized; under certain conditions, this can be used to apply voltage along the beam.
      This is what I fantasize about. While at home, the charge is not far away.

      how many volts do you give?
  5. -2
    11 November 2021 11: 50
    The mesh dome will constantly hang over the power plant, the base?
    Or will it be revealed before the drone raid?
    1. +3
      11 November 2021 11: 54
      Why are you interested in?
      1. -2
        11 November 2021 12: 46
        I hint that the idea is delusional in any form. laughing
        1. +3
          11 November 2021 12: 49
          so this is not a base to protect, but dangerous production facilities from a group attack by drones, when the APPLICATION of traditional methods of countering UAVs is ineffective - the text says
    2. +1
      11 November 2021 13: 30
      Here it is enough to look at the author, the Combined Arms Academy of the RF Armed Forces, to understand that someone urgently needs a dissertation! And Rospatent, by the big secret, does not patent an operating model or invention, but a paper with its description, which is sent to it. If the paper is framed correctly and the description is trustworthy, then there are no questions about whether its implementation is possible and where the invention is physically located. So go ahead, comrades! To new inventions!
      1. 0
        11 November 2021 13: 34
        Quote: Modya
        And Rospatent, by the big secret, will not patent a working model or invention, but a paper with its description

        Do you know the term of the patent and the amount in which it will result?
  6. -1
    11 November 2021 11: 52
    whether the development will receive further development with subsequent adoption into service, time will tell.

    But in the media soon there will be news from the category: NATO generals are in a panic, Russian scientists have learned to massively destroy UAVs wassat
  7. +1
    11 November 2021 11: 53
    As follows from the description of the patent, the basis of protection is made up of two mesh domes, capable of operating in the modes of repulsion and destruction of drones. In the first case, the system simply does not allow the UAV to enter the object without damaging them, in the second, it neutralizes.

    Imagine a conductive mesh dome at Two! a layer covering the nuclear power plant. Tin !.
  8. -2
    11 November 2021 12: 03
    Here in Israel there is an iron one, and we will have a wire dome! good
  9. +1
    11 November 2021 12: 19
    Such a tool (protection from hordes of mini and microcopters, drones) has long been invented, it is called a plasma cloud. Proposed by a German engineer, at the end of World War II, to defend against Anglo-Saxon aircraft. Create a cloud of coal dust in the path of her flight and then detonate it. A cloud, in the volume of several cubic kilometers, would blow the planes to smithereens. The allies were lucky, the Germans did not have time to implement: the Soviets took Berlin and the Fuhrer. It is not clear why barreled anti-aircraft guns that shoot shrapnel are not used against the Turkish "Bayraktars"? For Soviet "hundredths", with PUAZO and SON-4, such drones are a very easy target. And in the mines of Donetsk there were a lot of these guns. By the way, you can create a "plasma cloud" in the sky and "Buratino" ("Solntsepek"), with a slight modification.
  10. +4
    11 November 2021 12: 43
    To begin with, you need to burn out that territory with all the contents from where and from whom these UAVs do not want to anymore and do not even think about something like that!
    1. +2
      11 November 2021 12: 52
      yes, this is for the protection of civilian objects, you will burn cities
  11. +1
    11 November 2021 12: 51
    In the competition of solutions for protection against drones, the winner will be determined as in the competition of Santa Claus from an anecdote: only not the one who brings the corkscrew first, but whose proposed solution will be the cheapest with equal efficiency. It's trite, of course, but you can't argue against it. And at the academy ... dreamers.
  12. +2
    11 November 2021 12: 57
    Well, seriously, given that a swarm can consist of UAVs of completely different sizes, costs, speed and armament capabilities, then only 2 directions are really visible.
    Or a swarm too.
    Either EMP weapon.
    1. 0
      11 November 2021 18: 20
      There is a third option - the creation of a 30-millimeter pair equipped with a mini radar with optical channels, a computer aiming system operating in an automated mode and projectiles with programmable fuses, installation on a special towed cart - and it will be much more effective than these awnings, since drones and quadcopters can carry mines from grenade launchers and even being guided by projectiles themselves is one such shot at this dome and cover system.
      1. 0
        15 November 2021 13: 25
        There is a third option - the creation of a 30-millimeter twin, equipped with a mini radar with optical channels, a computer aiming system operating in an automated mode and projectiles with programmable fuses

        As soon as they can print a UAV with a size of 10 cm completely on a printer, this decision will become meaningless. The UAV will become cheaper than the projectile. A large enough swarm will simply overwhelm any radar. I'm not saying that the spark cannot fend off an attack from all sides at the same time.
  13. +2
    11 November 2021 13: 42
    There are many similar developments now.
    The projectile, being developed at the Snezhinsk nuclear center, contains a body with a set of projectile blocks arranged in series along the projectile axis, each of which contains explosives and striking elements - weights connected by flexible connecting cutting elements. Under the influence of explosives, not far from the target, the weights are fired in pairs and stretch the connecting elements behind them, from which the cutting network is formed.


    https://nplus1.ru/news/2021/11/03/net
    And Igor Esakov, Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences, Deputy Director of the Moscow Radio Engineering Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences, where especially powerful sources of radio emission have been developed for decades, believes that the future belongs to radio frequency weapons.
    Radio frequency weapons are based on a very simple principle that has been known for a long time: radio waves are directed to the target area with such a flux density that the inductive currents they cause disable the electronics. At the moment, it is most convenient to do this in the microwave range, with a wavelength of the order of centimeters. Actually, a microwave gun is a quite apt name for such systems.

    https://www.gazeta.ru/science/2021/11/03_a_14167171.shtml
    1. -2
      11 November 2021 14: 58
      I drove my Moskvich for 35 years to Crimea, Rum and Copper Pipes,
      having only the old, shabby, without a cover, "Atlas of the USSR roads"
      and always got to the right place. On a drum forest fields, mud and snow.
      A healthy piece of iron under the hood, 4 candles sticking out of it,
      one wire from the trampler, one tube with gasoline. ALL! Does not work
      gasoline pump-plastic bottle under the hood and a million more notions for
      all occasions. What jeepies and glonasas? What is the suppression of frequencies?
      On the one hand, they pee with boiling water from Poseidon, who will dive into
      100500 m, will run up to 100500 m, rush at such a speed 100500 km
      and will arrive directly in downtown Florida. On the other hand, they say that they will suppress
      three frequencies and the UAV will fly back to the dacha of its President.
      Why would this UAV do anything other than a memory card and a portrait of the target?
      At worst, if some kind of correction is needed, then I'm still in 1973 in the navy
      yuzal SDB (Shark, Ruff). Submarine USSR, being on the other side of the ball
      (it is clear where?) with their help, compressed messages were "shot" on the air
      (analog !!!) duration 02-04 sec. And by the way, they received in the same way
      COMBAT teams! So it's 1973! - analog, as much as 0,2 sec, swap frequencies at random
      the law. And now? All ball in optics, all space in satellites, private range
      mastered for tens of GHz, there is no need to talk about performance.
      They can't scare away pigeons from railway stations, GENERAL academicians ...
  14. 0
    11 November 2021 19: 13
    The best defense against UAVs is the destruction of their home base.

    And Balloons are cheaper than an electric dome. With modern technologies, they can lift the nylon net by 6 km
    1. +1
      11 November 2021 19: 48
      The network is not suitable for a swarm of UAVs, it will be violated by the very first UAV and at best there will be a gap in it, and at worst it will fall to the ground.

      Rather, there is something like a network of lasers installed on the masts and the action of the beam is limited to another mast.
      In general, like in action movies, a laser network in storage)
      1. 0
        12 November 2021 10: 18
        Lasers, of course, are a great idea, but technologically it is difficult and so far expensive.
        If the network breaks, then it is cheap nylon or nylon, besides, you can attach various devices to it that strike in addition.
        Now the material can be made very durable, withstanding up to 2 tons.
        1. 0
          12 November 2021 15: 57
          And the laser grid does not have to constantly operate, it is enough to install not expensive sensors that include a laser for destruction. Organize everything in a plane and not use radars. Rejection of goods on a conveyor belt operates on this principle.
          1. 0
            15 November 2021 09: 47
            Dear "login_off", this sounds great, but the laser on the pipeline has a low power density and a low to medium frequency range.
            One of the important factors of a laser is the power density - the ratio of the radiation flux to the area perpendicular
            surface.

            For cutting metal or other material. you need a solid power.
            It is possible to create a laser so that it makes a hole in 2 mm, although it will require a lot of watts, but technology has not yet reached this level for the "laser network" to cut the drone.

            And the nylon network is raised by 5-6 km, for example at night or according to the radar data that a foreign aircraft is approaching and it (the network), together with the short-range air defense system, is a cheap and effective response to the threat of nuclear power plants, etc. right now.
            1. 0
              15 November 2021 14: 43
              The size of the cell does not have to be done with a square in kilometers, you can do with a few hundred meters.
              It is not necessary to make a constantly working laser, it is enough to turn it on in a short period of time.
              The movement of the laser is horizontal, the sight is not necessarily accurate.
              You can always turn it off.

              With a nylon network, a problem may arise, birds, it is not so quick to remove, it is not easy to install, the wind blows, rain, snow. More problems.

              Although the laser will require more power during precipitation and fog, now this is not a problem for a couple of hundred meters (not kilometers)
              1. 0
                15 November 2021 19: 13
                For the protection of a nuclear power plant, a chemical enterprise and the like, in conditions where an attack is possible, birds are not the most important factor, birds are not so bad as to fly into an obstacle, the network does not have to be invisible and not have markers, but birds do not fly at a height at night 1 km and more :)

                AZ (aerostatic barrage was already used during the war years, but it is obvious that there were few planes shot down by it, and they were their majority, but they raised them at night and often.
                During the Second World War, the main task was to drive the enemy higher and not give sighting
                bombing and shelling and it worked, now another task, but in a similar one - only high-tech UAVs can rise above 6 km, but even there they are very clearly visible on the radar.
                Place, for example, 10-20 km from the object, but with the obligatory presence of air defense systems.
                Allowing an enemy drone to reach an object "a couple of hundred meters" is tantamount to failure .... if it has an OBE.

                So, today (and tomorrow) it is impossible without echeloned defense, and AZ will only add problems to the enemy and at the same time it is very cheap for us.
  15. 0
    11 November 2021 22: 26
    Since the network will stand "under the open sky", I recommend making it galvanized to protect it from atmospheric precipitation. This will increase its service life.
    1. 0
      12 November 2021 10: 23
      Do you think that nylon should be galvanized? :))
      In addition, they should be placed only 20 km from important facilities, such as nuclear power plants, chemical plants and dams ... and not along the front.