Israel prepares to launch a huge hot air balloon for military purposes

After completing the final tests, Israel is preparing to launch a huge balloon that will be used for military purposes. With its help, it will be possible to carry out early detection of threats from the air, in particular, missiles and UAVs.

This was reported by The Times of Israel with reference to the Israeli Ministry of Defense.

The balloon will be equipped with the latest radar equipment and other means of early detection.

The new anti-missile and air defense system was named Tel Shamayam, which means "Heavenly (God's) dew." It is assumed that it will strengthen the already existing complex of Israel's air defense systems. Its main advantage is that the observation sensors will be located at a high altitude. This will allow early detection of airborne threats.

The system will be an important component in strengthening our capabilities to protect the country's borders from various threats and will allow us to create a more accurate and wider picture of air surveillance.

- the commander of the Israeli Air Force, Major General Amikam Norkin, described the "Heavenly Dew".

The balloon to be launched has a length of more than 100 m and a height of a 9-10-storey building, taking into account the tail.

The balloon will operate in the north of the country, since it is there that the greatest danger of a strike on Israeli territory by Iranian missiles and drones, as they say in the IDF command. The Israeli military fears that UAVs and cruise missiles made or developed in the Islamic Republic will flood the Middle East in the coming years. They will pose a much greater threat to Israel than the relatively primitive missiles currently used by the enemy.

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[tralflot1832]

An annoying balloon for Palestinians? Winnie the Pooh, Piglet and the wrong bees come to mind!

[Flooding]

Quote: tralflot1832

Winnie the Pooh, Piglet (boar Pyatak) and the wrong bees immediately come to mind!

and me Bumbarash

[tralflot1832]

Also not bad, in the subject!

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: tralflot1832

Also not bad, in the subject!

But this is something else.

[tralflot1832]

You know, we do not care deeply about your balloon, I hope it is filled with hydrogen, not gel.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: tralflot1832

You know we don't give a damn about your ball,

Of course I know, but despite this, in every topic about Israel, and recently there are too many of them, you will definitely be noted.
If you noticed, I am not commenting on topics that do not concern Israel.
And my comments are just to balance those fakes that they write.

[tralflot1832]

I apologize for the form of submitting my personal opinion.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: tralflot1832

I apologize for the form of submitting my personal opinion

Thank you!
This is a worthy act, as well as a personal opinion that is expressed in a non-offensive manner.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Flood

and me Bumbarash

"Like an Archangel I hang
And I see the whole picture "

[poquello]

Quote: Seryoga64

Quote: Flood

and me Bumbarash

"Like an Archangel I hang
And I see the whole picture "

that's why they start it up to send a response more accurately

[Seryoga64]

Quote: poquello

that's why they start it up to send a response more accurately

These are the words from the song from the movie "Bumbarash"

[atalef]

Quote: poquello

Quote: Seryoga64

Quote: Flood

and me Bumbarash

"Like an Archangel I hang
And I see the whole picture "

that's why they start it up to send a response more accurately

Actually, they have been running for a long time.
I personally observed it a couple of times.
Maybe this one is just especially big?
By the way, the translation is not entirely clear, Tel Shamayim is, in theory, a heavenly hill.
Dew - Tal

[poquello]

Quote: atalef

Actually, they have been running for a long time.

))))) Oh! I don’t know! actually about the tasks, in order to see something below - you need to climb somewhere higher, those are either launch points or cruise missiles or the like

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: atalef

Actually, they have been running for a long time.
I personally observed it a couple of times.
Maybe this one is just especially big?

Does it hang high enough? The scoundrels will not shoot him from something? And, as far as I understand in aeronautics (from the word "not a fig"), probably, it is on a rigid frame. So a couple of holes shouldn't hurt him too much?

[indy424]

but what about the old Germanic ones, doesn't it remind?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: indy424

but what about the old Germanic ones, doesn't it remind?

Come on, a patched siskin proudly blows over the Arab peaceful hut))

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Krasnodar

over a peaceful Arab hut, a patched siskin proudly blows

Something you misinterpreted Yoshu!

[Krasnodar]

Accused of anti-Semitism if I publish the original

[Lionnvrsk]

You?? Anti-Semitism ??
Well, then it would be necessary from him something sublime, like- Man is a ball and the soul is a thread! Although it is possible to alter the other line - And the heavens kiss
proudly victim of the sawn-off ...

[Krasnodar]

Well, anything can be
My favorite:
The best view of this city is if you sit in
bomber
Well, but seriously, his strongest verse, in my opinion:
Everyone before God
naked.
Pathetic
naked
and wretched.
In every music
Bach,
in each of us
God.
For eternity -
gods.
Frailty -
the lot of bulls ...
God will become
us
by the twilight of the gods.
And you have to risk the sky
and maybe,
out of place.
More than once us
crucified
and then they will say:
decay.
And we will win from the wounds.
Then we will be hungry for gifts ...
Everyone has their own
Temple.
And to each his own coffin.
Stupid fool,
steal,
pray!
Be alone
like a finger! ..
... Like bulls -
whip,
eternal to the gods
cross.

[Iris]

Der Stürmer resembles in style - however, there were more professional artists.

[barin]

We have already mentioned the use of such devices in service in other countries. I remember that there were identified shortcomings that limited the mass use

[Vladimir_2U]

Really healthy by today's standards, especially for a tethered balloon.

[Alien From]

What would be the broads if Winnie the Pooh hits him ...

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Alien From

What would be the broads if Winnie the Pooh hits him ...

This is not Hindenburg, this is Katznelson (just kidding). For a long time, hydrogen has not been used for aeronautics, a helium-hydrogen mixture is in progress, but it is explosion-proof and fireproof.

[Alien From]

A little humor will not hurt in our difficult time)))

[sen]

Really healthy by today's standards, especially for a tethered balloon.

So they have less.
Balloon system TAOS. A similar system is used by the Americans on the border with Mexico. The system is relatively cheap and efficient.
TTX of a helium balloon: volume 285 m3; lifting height 300 m; linear size 16 m (there are devices 32 m long).
The control station is located in the trailer.
Payload: weight 35 kg; diameter 300 mm; height 400 mm; azimuth viewing area circular; accuracy of determining coordinates in azimuth ± 2 °; viewing area in the vertical plane from +25 to -110 °.
The device is equipped with a thermal imaging system of the front view. Operating range - the long-wavelength part of the IR spectrum; field of view: narrow 1,7 x 1,3 °; average 5,1 x 3,9 °; wide 24 x 18 °. The system includes a mini cooler.
The optical system has a field of view of 1,5 x 1,2 °, a focal length of 24-240 mm, an optical magnification of 1:10.
The payload along with the information sensors of day and night observation includes a system for diagnosing the state of the platform and monitoring its position over a given geographical area.
The only cable is used for mooring a tethered balloon, powering the platform and two-way communication. The video signal is transmitted via fiber optic communication, which avoids signal distortion due to electromagnetic interference.
The multi-sensor payload consists of high resolution CCD and FLIR sensors. In addition, radar, a laser range finder and a laser target illumination system can be placed on a balloon.
TAOS optical and infrared equipment is gyro-stabilized along two axes and is controlled by the operator in azimuth and vertical plane with the help of a joystick.
The device can operate normally at wind speeds up to 20,5 m / s.
The deployment time of the balloon is 45 minutes.
In addition, Israel has almost created two mini-balloon systems for use at altitudes of 100-200 m, respectively, with payloads of up to 26 kg and up to 4 kg.

[ABC-schutze]

It is high time. A very promising direction ...

True, in the case of Israel and its "microscopic" airspace, in a real war with the slightest "advanced" opponents, this novelty will not make the difference ...

But to scare the Palestinians, other insurgents and "paramilitaris", and to look after them, is quite fine ...

[Seryoga64]

Quote: ABC-schütze

A very promising direction.

And everything is new, this is well forgotten old

[ABC-schutze]

Only now, the possible range of tasks, solved with the help of this "well-forgotten", is expanding by an order of magnitude.

Especially if, to begin with, we have in mind the USC Sever with its area of ​​responsibility. And the peculiarities of the theater ...

[Seryoga64]

Quote: ABC-schütze

expands by an order of magnitude.

And that's how it should be. Progress does not stand still

[Krasnodar]

Quote: ABC-schütze

It is high time. A very promising direction ...

True, in the case of Israel and its "microscopic" airspace, in a real war with the slightest "advanced" opponents, this novelty will not make the difference ...

But to scare the Palestinians, other insurgents and "paramilitaris", and to look after them, is quite fine ...

So against the Iranians with their proxies and hanging

[spectr]

If they are planning a strike on Iran, then everything is logical. It is necessary to set up additional means of control at the section of the border, where a response may follow. It is interesting to know the truth to what extent they want to exercise this control. An acquaintance of mine traveled to those lands and said that Israel had the most powerful intelligence there. Americans are small children compared to them and are more PR than they really can.
Now, if I'm right, it turns out that the military conflict with Iran was planned several years ago. And Israel is actively knocking out money for this case from the United States.

[Krasnodar]

Natanyahu was supposed to attack Iran even under Obama, but gave the back.
To what extent? By all possible methods, with the size and density of the country's population, there are no other options, in principle
CIA - Mossad - in my very unprofessional opinion, there are enough idiots everywhere, it's just that the Israelis specialize in the Middle East, so they are more focused. Americans work all over the world, a bloated apparatus that burdens the control of the counter.
Israel knocks out money for the war from everyone it can, primarily from the United States, of course))

[rocket757]

Israel prepares to launch a huge hot air balloon for military purposes

... To create a completely reliable balloon / airship, the problem is less than the problem of controlling it or keeping it securely in place, always, at any time.
Everything depends very much on the weather.

[YOUR]

For that, the visibility is excellent. No closing angles, will detect low-altitude targets at long ranges. We have been working on the same project for a long time, but as always, the devils are at school, then the boilers are being revised.

[spirit]

They would still have a military option to hang) with a couple of missiles to instantly suppress the launch points of artisanal missiles. Hanging an ash-tree high, for a long time, why not a Domoklov sword?))

[YOUR]

Also, some kind of project was to use the airship as a launch pad for launching space rockets. But the project did not go further.

[rocket757]

Everything depends on the weather ... the enemy will learn / will use this factor and all business.
In general, it can work, but it is limited.

[YOUR]

It's not up to us to decide, them. Let them think. And what kind of wind there is, whether this device can be used or not, I personally do not know, most likely you. BUT! The use of this balloon is many times more profitable in comparison with the AWACS aircraft. It can be on duty for a very long time, the device is uninhabited, the crew is on the ground. It is used not as the main radar, but as an additional one to the existing ones. There are many pluses.
If you remember the history, then the German airship carried out flights across the ocean to America and there were storms, winds and nothing to cope with.

[ycuce234-san]

If you remember the history, then the German airship carried out flights across the ocean to America and there were storms, winds and nothing to cope with.

By the way, this has not been repeated for a long time. Training sailboats go, yachtsmen go (in order to advertise companies or promote YouTube channels), and airship builders for some reason do not want to do this ... Although it is very easy to put advertisements on the sides of such a pepelaz. And for the sake of safety, you can send an unmanned aerial vehicle with souvenirs up for auction on such a flight.

[YOUR]

Apparently because the cost of an airship capable of overcoming the ocean is like Abramovich's yacht.

[ycuce234-san]

OceanSky on Airlander-10 is going to take rich tourists to the Pole.
They will ask for 1,25 million rubles. for a place - but this is an extra charge for elitism.
By the way, it is inexpensive, at the price of a very used budget car brand.

[YOUR]

Interesting infa. I looked through the read. Perhaps you underestimated the cost by three times

the cost of a separate comfortable double cabin is $ 55- $ 65 thousand, while the airship is designed for groups of 16 people. The first flights are scheduled for the coming years, according to some estimates no later than 2023.

[ycuce234-san]

This means that the demand has become even higher, apparently. But the flight range is quite suitable for travel to Latin and North America, in Alaska.

[YOUR]

Maybe it fits, but maybe not. What is there to fly from Sweden to the Pole.
At the expense of demand, these airships are not yet available. All these assumptions may be in 2023.

[ycuce234-san]

Airlander 10 in unmanned mode in the air can be up to 2 weeks.
Therefore, he can do part of the way in drift, using the general atmospheric planetary circulation of the atmosphere.
In general, people fly alone over the ocean, and almost on gliders - Solar Impulse flew 8000 km above the water. It's just that yachtsmen are more accustomed to aviators in this role.
https://habr.com/ru/post/396407/

[YOUR]

To be honest, I do not quite understand what you are writing about.
Well, they are building, well, maybe they will carry tourists, so what?

[ycuce234-san]

Initially, I noticed that it is not clear why they stopped using airships for such record flights.
Are rich athletes and extreme sportsmen extinct? - not at all.
There are plenty of world-class yachtsmen and yacht yachts and training and reconstruction sailing yachts feel great.
Firms order or sponsor advertising record sea crossings or flights.
Even the airship builders have not died out and rivet all kinds of flying radars and just tourist airships.
But airships for transatlantic flights and advertising extreme expeditions for some reason ceased to be used - here is a certain mystery. Themselves, these devices are still produced and available for rent or purchase.

[yfast]

Or maybe 10 small ones, but 3 rubles each? You can only raise the antenna. To lower it into the wind.

[svp67]

This is a long-awaited solution and I am glad that it has finally been developed. The only question is to ensure the safety of flying aircraft, especially peaceful ones.

[igor67]

Quote: svp67

This is a long-awaited solution and I am glad that it has finally been developed. The only question is to ensure the safety of flying aircraft, especially peaceful ones.

They have been used for a long time, but probably smaller, they weigh themselves such white ones, I've been watching for 30 years

[svp67]

Quote: igor67

They have been used for a long time, but probably smaller, they weigh themselves such white ones, I've been watching for 30 years

We also have such Oko systems periodically flying over the city, but they are not for airspace control. Such a balloon can be used as an object replacement for AWACS, an unmanned ...

[Wanderer_GO]

No comment.

[askort154]

Israel prepares to launch a huge hot air balloon for military purposes

I am surprised at the Jews. All of Israel can be seen even from the Golan Heights. And balloons are a utopia that has been confirmed more than once.
A banal cut of funds. Recent cases are an example of this. So in the United States, the widely advertised "forward-looking radar, reconnaissance" balloon, worth 3 billion, 74 meters in length, fell off the "leash", having flown about 300 km, caught on electrical wires, and crashed in the state of Merlin in 2015 ...
The same fate befell the English derezable Airlender 10.
There were many similar developments in the USSR and in Russia.
But until now they have not been realized. Except balloons
defending Moscow in the Second World War.

[indy424]

it is in your world. and in the usual way, this kind of balloons, only smaller, have been working perfectly in the south of the country for decades.

[Cowbra]

which means "Heavenly (God's) dew"

Piss in the eye - all of them are God's dew

[A. Privalov]

It turned out to be quite a nice device.

[askort154]

A. Privalov Quite a nice device turned out

Why is it for a micro-state, 450x90 km in size? ?
And second, why is A. Privalov not at the training camp of Israel's reservists? Not a patriot, or does he not live there?

[A. Privalov]

Quote: askort154

Why is it for a micro-state, 450x90 km in size? ?
And second, why is A. Privalov not at the training camp of Israel's reservists? Not a patriot, or does not live there

It seems that everything is written quite clearly in the article. Or have you just read the title?
It is the world's largest tracking and alerting platform for aerial threats, including ballistic missiles.

The balloon, equipped with appropriate locators and sensors, will hover at high altitudes, tracking all potential airborne threats over long distances and in all directions. According to the Ministry of Defense, it will become an important part of the Israeli multilayer air defense along with the Iron Dome, David's Sling and Strela missile defense systems.

I am 67 years old, I have long been no longer a reservist, but as a citizen taking an active position, I participate in exercises as much as I can - at the signal of an air raid I open a house bomb shelter, make sure that the entry and evacuation routes are clear, I replenish the first-aid kit, etc. etc.

[askort154]

A. Privalov ...It seems that everything is written quite clearly in the article. Or have you just read the title?

If you have read my comments to the article, then there I have already written about the futility of balloons at the present time. Both the USA and England were convinced of this. These are not my conclusions.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: askort154

If you have read my comments to the article, then there I have already written about the prospects of balloons at the present time. Both the USA and England were convinced of this. These are not my conclusions.

You see, I have no reason not to trust the Defense Ministry's R&D department who designed and built this device in cooperation with the Air Force and the Aircraft Concern. These guys never disappointed me.
I don’t know why and how the United States and the Britons used something similar, but I can only once again wish our specialists success in their venture.

[askort154]

A. Privalov ....I am 67 years old, I have long been no longer a reservist, but as a citizen who takes an active position, I participate in the exercises as much as possible - upon an air raid signal, I open the house bomb shelter, make sure that the entry and evacuation routes are clear, replenish the first-aid kit, etc.

It's clear. I sincerely sympathize with you. Fleeing from Russia in order to hide in a house bomb shelter in old age is a clear mistake of youth.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: askort154

I sincerely sympathize with you. Fleeing from Russia in order to hide in a house bomb shelter in old age is a clear mistake of youth.

He doesn't care where to hide, and when he left he was promised good grubs ...

[Raphael]

And to you, as for other people's grubs, they are not taken away from you. It seems that some have a grudge against the Jews for leaving Russia.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Refael

And to you what to other people's grubs, not yours are taken away.

Yes, everything is in order with grub in the Russian Federation ...

It seems that some have a grudge against the Jews for leaving Russia.

Have they gone to Paradise? In the Russian Federation, people in

house bomb shelter

do not jump ... like let it jump ...

[Raphael]

I think he doesn't need your sentiments. You cannot live someone else's life, for someone the conditional letter A is an error, but for someone the same conditional letter A is an achievement.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: askort154

It's clear. I sincerely sympathize with you. Fleeing from Russia in order to hide in a house bomb shelter in old age is a clear mistake of youth.

Past, namesake, by ...
You know, in other times, I myself would have spoken with you about this, but not today.
In the morning, I received another sad news - another classmate of mine passed away, and a couple of weeks ago, my mother's student died. She led a class that is a year older than me.
Mom is here with me. She has already gone 92, may the Almighty prolong her years ...

The graduates of our school have a kind of "School Committee" headed by the former head of the city archive of the registry office. He keeps a very sad memorial book.
So, out of 35 of my classmates in 1971, 26 remained, 1970 - 21 out of 33, 1969 - this class was unlucky - exactly half. Many of them did not even make it to pensions ...
No, my dear, I'd rather be here at 67, sitting surrounded by children and grandchildren on a pretty decent pension, volunteering to participate in exercises than to scour in search of a borsch set and cheaper medicines and think about how to make ends meet freezing ends in Khrushchev's panel kopeck piece.
In a word, you stay there, all the best, good mood and health to you.
Save you, L-rd.

[Krasnodar]

It's clear. I sincerely sympathize with you. Fleeing from Russia in order to hide in a house bomb shelter in old age is a clear mistake of youth. crying hi

You become even more aware of your mistake when you see a large number of Israeli pensioners sitting all day in cafes and restaurants. And the prices bite, by Russian standards

[bk0010]

Here, take a look:

[Skipper]

Good luck! Such a huge bogey hanging in the sky is a very easy target for anything ... even for simple artillery.

[atari]

In fact, such airships are built from many individual cells with a huge supply of lift. For a long time already more than one big ball. Shooting it down is not at all easy ... When I served in Lebanon in the late 90s, we had one blown off by such a wind ... a couple of planes shot it down for several hours. In order for it to fall, it must be torn to shreds ...

[Teador]

Quote: tralflot1832

You know, we do not care deeply about your balloon, I hope it is filled with hydrogen, not gel.

SAME twenty years ago, they shouted about the UAVs of Israel

[Lara Croft]

..... the next militaristic preparations of Israeli Jews, I think the calculations of the "hasans" from among the working youth of Palestine will eliminate this LA ....

[Raphael]

"Working youth of Palestine"

[Oleg Olkha]

aTCOM, LP produces the largest Aerostats to date, varying from 12 meters to over 117 meters in length which can be assembled and deployed by minimal crew in mere hours, and operated from either land or vessels at sea

[Oleg Olkha]

"TCOM, LP produces the largest Aerostats to date, varying from 12 meters to over 117 meters in length which can be assembled and deployed by minimal crew in mere hours, and operated from either land or vessels at sea". Judging by the appearance, for the first time the company ordered the upper one, 117 meters, they write in the networks. With a nominal slave. an altitude of 3 km. low-flying CDs are visible from 200 km. at max. working altitude 4.6 km from 250 km. ("curvature of the earth") Max. the detection range of aircraft and missiles is several times greater and is due only to the IAI's AFAR Elta radar. For the slave. altitude 3 km. payload of at least 10 tons (for 74 meters from the specification -3.2 tons, and the volume and lifting force are proportional to the cubic power of the size ...) and for 4.6 km. the payload is half the size. The media indicate the place of deployment - "west of Lake Kinneret". A radar in a much smaller shell has been hovering over Dimona for 31 years already ...

[FrankyStein]

Will a handicraft kamikaze drone cope with such a goal?

[Shugali]

Israel prepares to launch a huge hot air balloon for military purposes

As I understand it, in which case the evacuation of the richest Jews to Australia is urgent heavy will be the load)))
No matter how it collapsed, somewhere in the Mariana Trench .. Look for them later !!!!

[gregor6549]

If my memory serves me, then somewhere in the mid-70s a draft of a surveillance radar on a tethered balloon came to our research institute for review. And although ddeya itself was not bad, especially in light of the need for early detection of low-flying targets of the "Ax" type, the project was not implemented due to a number of difficulties existing at that time (technical, operational, etc.). By now, many of those difficulties successfully overcome and there are no special reasons to return to the mentioned project. especially since the problem of detecting low-flying targets, including Toporov, anti-ship missiles, etc., has not gone anywhere, and there is still no reliable solution.
The same B1 bomber can "remember" its "bad habit" of flying at extremely low altitudes with a rounding of the terrain (which turned its crew inside out) and become a very dangerous type of air attack, despite the lack of stealth technologies, hypersound and other newfangled bells and whistles.
"Axes", by the way, also began to be underestimated for some reason, although their latest modifications with the GOS, coupled with a highly developed infrastructure for reconnaissance of targets and target designation, including space, can cause a lot of headaches for the air defense of both Russia and China, not to mention less advanced in terms of air defense countries.
The hope for MIG 31 fighters and their analogs with their ability to detect and intercept targets of the "Ax" type against the background of the Earth is rather shaky. and the number of such aircraft is much less than the number of "Axes", and a significant part of such MIGs is planned to be used as carriers of "Daggers". Yes, and it is possible to detect MIGs much earlier than they discover the Axes, and once discovered, bypass them.
The same applies to ground-based VHF radars. Yes. they are able to see Axes and others like them a little earlier than radars of the centimeter and decimeter range, but not much, and besides, the presence of such radars, their coordinates and operating modes are determined by the enemy's RTR long before the Axes' approach to the detection zones of these radars, which again gives the enemy the opportunity to adjust the trajectories of the Axes' flight.
But the radars installed on the balloon give the owners of such radars serious trump cards in the fight against "Axes" and similar SVN. Moreover, one balloon can be equipped with different-range radars, which further increases the likelihood of detection and stable tracking of "low-flying" aircraft. Such radars can be successfully used on ships. especially given the fact that Russia does not have deck-based AWACS and U.
Of course, in certain climatic conditions, the operation of such radars and their carriers (balloons) can cause considerable difficulties, but these difficulties are quite solvable.

[Freedim]

Quote: bk0010

Here, take a look:

(c) Petka, this is not a crattostat, but a conductor