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Ukraine has simplified the acquisition of citizenship for politically persecuted citizens of the "aggressor state"

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Ukraine has simplified the acquisition of Ukrainian citizenship for some categories of persons, including those "persecuted by Russia." The corresponding decision was made by the Verkhovna Rada.


The Ukrainian parliament in the first reading, by a majority vote, approved a bill providing for a simplified procedure for obtaining Ukrainian citizenship for several categories of foreign citizens. According to the new law, any foreigner who fought in the Donbas or who is "persecuted in Russia" for political reasons can become a citizen of Ukraine.

In more detail, then the simplified procedure is allowed: foreigners serving in the Armed Forces of Ukraine under a contract or previously serving there, who took part in hostilities in the Donbass, as well as having outstanding services to Ukraine. A separate line is the former citizens of Russia who fled to Ukraine for political reasons. True, the law does not contain the word "Russia", it directly says that these are citizens of "the aggressor state or the occupying state recognized by the Verkhovna Rada."

The law was adopted in pursuance of the 2019 decree of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, and was supposed to counterbalance the decree of Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the simplified granting of Russian citizenship to citizens of the people's republics of Donbass, as well as Ukraine. Earlier in Kiev, they promised to give an answer "to the distribution" of Russian passports to "citizens of Ukraine" in the Donbass.
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  1. Sauron80
    Sauron80 3 November 2021 13: 37
    +23
    The cesspool will gratefully accept the slop from the "aggressor country" - news of the day laughing
    1. 210ox
      210ox 3 November 2021 13: 48
      +20
      Just great. It remains only to start spreading rot dogs, bulls and Co. The air will be cleaner
      1. Luminman
        Luminman 3 November 2021 14: 17
        +4
        It remains only to start spreading rot dogs, bulls and Co.

        Better to hand them picks and shovels and send them to the Komi Republic - hammer the ice
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 3 November 2021 14: 27
        +6
        Quote: 210ox
        It remains only to start spreading rot dogs, bulls and Co.

        Do not forget Svanidze!
        1. SKVichyakow
          SKVichyakow 3 November 2021 14: 42
          +4
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Quote: 210ox
          It remains only to start spreading rot dogs, bulls and Co.

          Do not forget Svanidze!

          Better than Nikulin A. He surnames NIKULIN.
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 3 November 2021 15: 03
            -2
            Quote: SKVichyakow
            Better than Nikulin A. He surnames NIKULIN.

            "Do not make yourself an idol"
            1. SKVichyakow
              SKVichyakow 3 November 2021 16: 53
              +3
              Is it too pompous, Mauritius?
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 3 November 2021 22: 17
                -2
                This law is nothing more than providing Zelensky with loyal voters in the upcoming elections.
                1. SKVichyakow
                  SKVichyakow 4 November 2021 20: 13
                  0
                  And how many loyal people do you think will be after the adoption of this law? Do we have so many people willing to move to Ukraine?
                  1. Vladimir Mashkov
                    Vladimir Mashkov 4 November 2021 20: 28
                    +1
                    Vishnyakov
                    You, like those that minus me, misunderstand. Yes, there are few people from Russia who want to become citizens of Ukraine (although some also write on VO that Ukraine is much better than Putin's Russia). But there are still many countries of the near and not so foreign countries. For example, I have Uzbeks, Turkmen, Vietnamese, Crimean Tatars, Armenians and Azerbaijanis in my neighbors. Almost all of them are already citizens of Ukraine.
                    1. SKVichyakow
                      SKVichyakow 4 November 2021 20: 34
                      -2
                      And when did they come in large numbers? I think until 2014.
                      1. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 4 November 2021 21: 12
                        +1
                        You are wrong. On the contrary, mainly after 2014. Some recently.
                      2. SKVichyakow
                        SKVichyakow 4 November 2021 21: 43
                        -2
                        It can be seen with them, even worse.
                      3. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 4 November 2021 21: 47
                        +1
                        Probably, as anyone. But many have recently developed a frenzied craving for Europe ... laughing
                      4. SKVichyakow
                        SKVichyakow 4 November 2021 21: 49
                        -2
                        That is, you are like a secret hole in the fence. Traffic.
                      5. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 4 November 2021 21: 52
                        0
                        Me not. My friends and I have a constant vector from birth. It is NOT necessary to consider Ukraine, its population as a single whole, like the Banderaites. smile
                      6. SKVichyakow
                        SKVichyakow 4 November 2021 21: 53
                        -1
                        I didn't mean you, but Ukraine. As for what is happening in Ukraine, I know not by hearsay.
                      7. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 4 November 2021 22: 02
                        +2
                        Bandera and the current government of Ukraine are NOT Ukraine. They are a minority. Although they carried out, with the help of the West, a coup d'état, they seized power. Unfortunately, the majority of the population is passive. Although against the Bandera. And the leaders have been eliminated, they are in prison, they have emigrated. And the SBU is closely monitoring the situation.
                      8. Nexcom
                        Nexcom 5 November 2021 18: 28
                        0
                        Is everything really so harsh in / on in terms of tracking?
                      9. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 5 November 2021 19: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Nexcom
                        Is everything really so harsh in / on in terms of tracking?

                        I suppose - yes, although, of course, I do not have exact data: the SBU does not notify me. The fact that I communicate with you is NOT evidence that it is not harsh. I know a lot of people who have suffered. Someone was warned and he was completely silent, who after conversations ran away, emigrated, and some were imprisoned. The neighbor opposite was imprisoned, served more than a year, was released - and immediately left for the DPR. He won the contract and is now in the Crimea. A lot of our people left for the LPR. I don’t know how and where they are now.
                      10. Nexcom
                        Nexcom 5 November 2021 19: 28
                        +1
                        clear ... pressure for the worldview and the expression of their thoughts. it remains to officially revive the political police and the analogy with something will be almost complete. although if its functions are performed by the SBU ...
                      11. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 5 November 2021 19: 53
                        0
                        Exactly. The SBU performs these very functions. And the analogy with something was noted a long time ago. And you, I apologize, are from deep taiga with no connection with civilization or from strict confinement that nothing do not know? smile
                      12. Nexcom
                        Nexcom 5 November 2021 19: 56
                        -1
                        I'm from the Urals. I was born and live here. and know about total surveillance somewhere out there in / on not according to my work profile. in science I work. in the University. spectroscopist.

                        PS spy mania in my opinion here.
                      13. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 5 November 2021 20: 03
                        -1
                        Eh, to get to the Urals and to your university ... smile
                        All the best and every success in spectroscopy! hi
                      14. Nexcom
                        Nexcom 5 November 2021 20: 10
                        +1
                        Ural Federal University. In Ekaterinburg. Come on a guided tour. I do not mind.

                        Well, all the best to you too. hi
                      15. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 5 November 2021 20: 51
                        -1
                        Thanks for the invitation. Maybe when it will work out. Moreover, my relatives live in Eburg. smile
                      16. Nexcom
                        Nexcom 5 November 2021 20: 55
                        -1
                        really? Well, so what.
                        I lived in the city for 51 years. and now I live.

                        why are you calling him Eburg?
                        that's what blacks call Johannesburg.
                      17. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 5 November 2021 21: 04
                        0
                        That's it, the communication session, Mr. or Pan "Yekaterinburg" is over. You DO NOT even know how residents "your his" cities call him! You are pierced, sir! laughing laughing laughing
                      18. Nexcom
                        Nexcom 5 November 2021 21: 05
                        -1
                        you are sick with suspicion. I really am from Yekaterinburg.
                        and we don't call it that.

                        Threat until at least minus. pofik.
                        Well, you can even come up with such a fic, me, a Russian, is called a pan, they doubt that I am from Russia, and in my hometown. fool internet paranoia, sancze the word. that's for sure, all the best.
                      19. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 4 November 2021 22: 07
                        -1
                        Curious to know what your "firsthand" means. You are shy here - you can also in a personal. smile
                      20. SKVichyakow
                        SKVichyakow 4 November 2021 22: 28
                        -3
                        Curiosity is not a vice, and not a source of knowledge ...
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 3 November 2021 15: 13
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        It remains only to start spreading rot dogs, bulls and Co. The air will be cleaner

        Well, finally it happened! At least someone will take "bilge and fecal waters" from the ship - Russia.
    2. Hypertension
      Hypertension 3 November 2021 13: 49
      -2
      Quote: Sauron80
      The cesspool will gratefully accept the slop from the "aggressor country" - news of the day

      There is no need to scoff. Are you aware that Russia is constantly making it easier to obtain Russian citizenship? Kyrgyz, Tajiks, Uzbeks. Except for the Russians from the former republics (not counting the LDNR - and thanks for that). Someone is invited to go through a couple of circles of bureaucratic hell. More than once or twice it has been written about it.
      I'm not even talking about the amnesty for 300 thousand guest workers from Central Asia.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 November 2021 14: 04
        +5
        Quote: Hyperion
        There is no need to scoff. Are you aware that Russia is constantly making it easier to obtain Russian citizenship? Kyrgyz, Tajiks, Uzbeks? Except for Russians from the former republics. Someone is invited to go through a couple of circles of bureaucratic hell.

        I looked in Yandex. Nothing but a couple of blatant stories could be found. And the circumstances are murky. Either they lost the documents, then the wrong ones were submitted, and everything in a similar spirit. Maybe someone is dark, maybe officials were asking for a bribe.
        But I did not find such a thing to specifically delay obtaining citizenship for the Russians, and to make it easier for all Tajiks. Bad looking, probably.
        Wipe my insecurities to dust with your crushing evidence? Oh please! Thanks.
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 3 November 2021 14: 27
          -6
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Nothing but a couple of blatant stories could be found.

          You are not enough ?!
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          But so that especially for the Russians they delayed obtaining citizenship

          I do not mean to specifically. But a bureaucratic machine does not work without lubrication. Russians from the CIS republics do not have a lot of such "grease". For objective reasons - no one will allow them to significant (monetary) positions.
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Wipe my insecurities to dust with your crushing evidence?

          Your uncertainty will be erased into dust by the diasporas of Central Asians and Caucasians. Once, on a wonderful day. On this "beautiful" day (perhaps the last one for you), you leave the house and realize that your life and your property do not belong to you. Why? But because you are "unfaithful", and Allah created the Earth for those who worship Him.
          One two Three...
          Just three steps to Russia: how to obtain Russian citizenship for a Tajik.
          https://tj.sputniknews.ru/20141203/1013448244.html
          But everything is much easier if you "grease" it. Russian officials are ready to meet ...
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 3 November 2021 14: 40
            +4
            I do not mean to specifically.

            Here is your comment
            Are you aware that Russia is constantly making it easier to obtain Russian citizenship? Kyrgyz, Tajiks, Uzbeks. Except Russians from the former republics (not counting the LDNR - and thanks for that).

            Did I misunderstand it? Did you mean something completely different? Or is ordinary bribery a part of the general anti-Russian policy of the current government?
            1. Hypertension
              Hypertension 3 November 2021 15: 05
              -1
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Did I misunderstand it? Did you mean something completely different?

              Consider the fact that Russia does not make it easier for Russians to obtain citizenship.
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Or is ordinary bribery a part of the general anti-Russian policy of the current government?

              This is how it works under current conditions.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 3 November 2021 15: 19
                +2
                Quote: Hyperion
                Consider the fact that Russia does not make it easier for Russians to obtain citizenship.

                Those who have not received do not know what bureaucracy is. I took Tongan citizenship and I don't have a headache.
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 3 November 2021 19: 03
          0
          For the first month of stay, you need to have time to go through, translate, collect and submit all certificates and documents, a valid reason (work, at the place of birth, etc.), subject to the corresponding official temporary registration - to receive a TRP - consideration of 2 months. And the period of stay is 90 days, many do not have time to receive documents. They leave, arrive in 90 days or issue an annual patent (with taxes paid for the year) for work, in the same 1st month of arrival, so as not to leave.
          Upon receipt of the RVP, official re-registration on the basis of the RVP at the place permitted in the RVP. After 8 months, all documents, translations, grounds and certificates for obtaining a Residence Permit (residence permit) are submitted again. Consideration for 6 months, if all the letters and norms of the documents are met, they are redone 2-3 times (they do not take it at a time, you need to redo them). Moreover, every 1 months from the date of receipt of the RVP, it must be confirmed.
          After obtaining a residence permit, you can register where you plan to live and draw up other documents. After 6 months or within 3 years, you need to prepare documents, translations, certificates (there are already fewer of them than the early ones, but still enough) to apply for a passport. If they accept it 2-3 times in 2-3 months there will be permission, within 14 days apply for receipt and after a month receive and register. Make out the rest with him.
          Notarized (local notaries) translations of passport, birth certificate, marriage / divorce certificate,
          Health certificates - passing a medical commission in the presence of the same translations
          Translation about cd education or a certificate of the exam in Russian language proficiency (we passed t to school after 90 years) so dk are handed over by those who do not have a certificate of completion of their cf education
          Therefore, with this, advance will not work.
          And the statement
          Now, in order to come from there, you need to have an invitation from the employer or from relatives. To give permission for an invitation, you need to submit documents for permission to give this invitation - free living space, tax-confirmed ability to support an invitee, etc. In this case, office. temporary registration is provided by the inviting party. But here is the trick - daddy's square, and here permission may not be issued. The ex-wife is not legally related.
          You have three options for the right to receive - family reunification (relatives with your apartment and an invitation to enter, registration by invitation), the right to the place of birth (to look for someone who will hand over an apartment with Moscow registration and for registration - a patent and an invitation to work in Moscow) and for work (apt and registration is provided by the employer with a tax report, the availability of an opportunity to give payment from which the tax will be charged and which will not be lower than what is necessary for living in terms of the migration issue and not a minimum of living, and not everyone goes to this)
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      2. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 3 November 2021 14: 04
        -1
        there is a huge population decline in Russia
        1. 210ox
          210ox 3 November 2021 14: 21
          +3
          Everyone rushed to Vukraina? What is the article about? And the reasons for the decline are clear to everyone. And yes, from Asia it is necessary to give less citizenship. If only the experts are irreplaceable. I've only seen such people from Russians
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 3 November 2021 14: 28
            -1
            this decline is replaced by gaster
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 3 November 2021 15: 21
            0
            Quote: 210ox
            Everyone rushed to Vukraina?

            Any African citizenship is better, even though people are not ashamed to look in the eyes at the airport.
        2. Hypertension
          Hypertension 3 November 2021 14: 29
          +1
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          there is a huge population decline in Russia

          With the influx of Ravshans and Dzhamshuts, it will only bloom! Isn't it, Nastya?
        3. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 3 November 2021 19: 16
          0
          That is, everyone is running to the Ukrainian soap? Chi sho?
      3. Wedmak
        Wedmak 3 November 2021 15: 41
        -1
        Don't lie about the circles of hell. I received a passport exactly according to the terms indicated in the documents on the issuance of citizenship. Even a little faster, for about a week. There was no hell. For the Russians who lived in the republics at the time of the collapse of the USSR, everything turns out pretty quickly and according to a simplified scheme.
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 3 November 2021 15: 54
          -2
          Quote: Wedmak
          Don't lie about the circles of hell. I received my passport exactly according to the terms that were indicated in the documents for the issuance of citizenship.

          If you knew how much faster you can get citizenship by greasing the FMS, you would cry.
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 3 November 2021 16: 27
            +1
            I prefer not to seduce government officials. In order not to swear at bribery in structures later ...
            1. Hypertension
              Hypertension 3 November 2021 16: 34
              0
              Quote: Wedmak
              I prefer not to seduce government officials.

              Then - in the order of the general queue, if you please ... Among the "former compatriots" ... For the FMS, both Denis and Dilshod - one field of a berry - are applicants for citizenship. If this suits you, then you are a great internationalist and just a good person. With which I congratulate you!
          2. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 3 November 2021 19: 17
            -2
            Quote: Hyperion
            If you knew how much faster you can get citizenship by greasing the FMS, you would cry.
            So you broke the law? A man without principles and honor? am
            1. Hypertension
              Hypertension 3 November 2021 21: 02
              0
              Quote: 30 vis
              So you broke the law? A man without principles and honor?

              How did you decide that I was writing about myself? A person without adequate reading comprehension?
          3. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 4 November 2021 08: 55
            -3
            Quote: Hyperion
            Quote: Wedmak
            Don't lie about the circles of hell. I received my passport exactly according to the terms that were indicated in the documents for the issuance of citizenship.

            If you knew how much faster can you get citizenship by greasing the FMS - would cry.

            Is this your experience? Obviously yours. Or did you hold a candle? So ! What is it about
            1. Hypertension
              Hypertension 4 November 2021 10: 53
              0
              Quote: 30 vis
              Is this your experience? Obviously yours. Or did you hold a candle? So ! What is it about

              And the option that my acquaintances told me this, you do not consider?
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 4 November 2021 13: 11
                0
                Quote: Hyperion
                Quote: 30 vis
                Is this your experience? Obviously yours. Or did you hold a candle? So ! What is it about

                And the option that my acquaintances told me this, you do not consider?

                Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are! Axiom.
                1. Hypertension
                  Hypertension 5 November 2021 00: 25
                  -1
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are!

                  Again you are not reading carefully. I wrote somewhere that a friend told me about it? Or is any acquaintance already your friend for you? There are all sorts of acquaintances. Voluntary and involuntary, good and bad. And the acquaintance who informed me personally did not do anything like that.
                  So do not waste words in vain.
                  1. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 5 November 2021 07: 36
                    0
                    Quote: Hyperion
                    There are all sorts of acquaintances. Voluntary and involuntary, good and bad. And the acquaintance who informed me personally did not do anything like that.

                    In a word, collecting gossip OBS (one grandmother said) and submitting them as reliable information. In simple terms - nonsense.
                    1. Hypertension
                      Hypertension 5 November 2021 10: 11
                      0
                      Quote: 30 vis
                      In simple terms - nonsense.

                      Well, of course. Nonsense ... "In fact" there is no corruption in Russia, the diasporas do not excuse and push their own. And everyone receives citizenship strictly according to the law, and the FMS workers live on the same salary. It is in such a wonderful, invented world that you apparently exist.
                      1. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 5 November 2021 10: 20
                        0
                        I was not present at the extortion of bribes, I did not give, and there are various rumors. Naturally, there is corruption, extortion and theft. But in comparison with the corruption in the state in which I lived for 23, 5 years about Russia, you can say no! In Sevastopol, even the police are not afraid, which could not be said about the ukr. We have different experiences with you. Therefore, the perception is different. hi
                      2. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 5 November 2021 10: 28
                        0
                        Quote: 30 vis
                        where I lived for 23, 5 years

                        Because of your odd punctuation, I'm not entirely sure: did you mean 23 and a half years?
                        Quote: 30 vis
                        We have different experiences with you. Therefore, the perception is different.

                        That is, that is ... You are probably one of those who - if it's better than in Ukraine - it means it's already good. You can relax and live well ...
                      3. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 5 November 2021 10: 36
                        0
                        Yes 23.5 years. No . I am one of those who appreciate the present and want a better future. No maidans, overthrows. shocks. Evolution is called ... You are one of the fighters against the "Putin regime". This is our main difference ... And, yes, I live, enjoy life, here and now. There will be no other.
                      4. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 5 November 2021 10: 52
                        0
                        Quote: 30 vis
                        Evolution is called ...

                        Evolution is good. The only pity is that in Russia, throughout history, nothing similar in this regard has been observed ...
                        Quote: 30 vis
                        a better future. No maidans, overthrows. shocks.

                        Without positive demographics, with optimized medicine, with more and more stratification of society ...
                        Quote: 30 vis
                        You are one of the fighters against the "Putin regime".

                        Not true. I'm just not very good at the cult of personality, and "regime" is a complicated thing. He depends on all the people in the state. Starting from Putin, and ending with the neighbor's drunk Uncle Vasya. Therefore - what kind of "fighter" I am? A simple spectator with his humble opinion. hi
                      5. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 5 November 2021 13: 19
                        0
                        Every opinion is valuable. And in our country, anyone speaks and whatever comes to mind. The cult of personality .. don't tell me. I agree about medicine. the stratification of society has always been. There were not very rich cleaning ladies and there were super duper rich trade workers. snickering and swaggering, as well as high desks inaccessible to mere mortals. workers .. .. Unfortunately - the "Era of Justice" by the Soviet science fiction writer Ivan Efremov did not come. It's a pity .
                      6. Hypertension
                        Hypertension 5 November 2021 15: 11
                        0
                        The stratification has always been true. But you also need to know when to stop. Especially against the background of the slogans "we are all in the same boat" and "long live the day of national unity."
                        In Russia, the 1% of the super-rich keep up to 56% of all money: Experts sound the alarm over inequality.
                        Russians are irritated by the fact that the source of wealth for the Russian elite is the extraction of natural resources, and not achievements in the intellectual and high-tech spheres.
                      7. Xnumx vis
                        Xnumx vis 5 November 2021 15: 16
                        0
                        Okay ! Figs with them. We will live and help our friends. And then time will tell.
      4. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 5 November 2021 13: 35
        0
        As given, and you can pick it up. Fortunately, there are already cases.
    3. Finches
      Finches 3 November 2021 13: 56
      +4
      Turning blooming Ukraine into a stinking garbage dump in 30 years - this must be born a Ukrainian! laughing
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 3 November 2021 15: 32
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Turning blooming Ukraine into a stinking garbage dump in 30 years - this must be born a Ukrainian!

        No wonder how they became "Europeans" and the transformation began, but it has not ended yet.
    4. 1976AG
      1976AG 3 November 2021 14: 12
      +2
      Even here they can’t decide whether the state is an aggressor or an occupier.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 3 November 2021 14: 28
        -2
        Already decided. The state-supplier of unnecessary trash.
        1. Cottodraton
          Cottodraton 5 November 2021 13: 36
          0
          Why trash? Such people rule there. All their own, on the contrary
          1. 210ox
            210ox 5 November 2021 18: 08
            0
            It’s interesting, what are the Gaidars doing now. I don't think hohltpapira's cream is skimmed
      2. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 3 November 2021 14: 30
        -1
        Quote: 1976AG
        the state is an aggressor or occupier.

        They would write right away, "agrookkupant" lol
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 3 November 2021 15: 46
        +1
        Quote: 1976AG
        Even here they can’t decide whether the state is an aggressor or an occupier.

        If the occupier, then how can you give it to the occupiers, and even in the occupied territory, to issue an "independent passport". But the "achressor" is the one who is aggressive, swears obscenities, does not give money, the gas is shut off. This can be given such a ksiva, as Petrosakharny solemnly handed over to Mishik, I even let out a tear from emotion (or maybe from laughter).
    5. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 3 November 2021 14: 16
      0
      It would be nice to send all the local slops (which whine like they feel bad in the Russian Federation) with deprivation of Russian citizenship, let them slurp their village kratia laughing
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 3 November 2021 14: 25
        0
        Quote: Incvizitor
        It would be nice to send all the local slops (which whine like they feel bad in the Russian Federation) with deprivation of Russian citizenship, let them slurp their village kratia laughing

        Then you have to start with a circle of friends.
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 3 November 2021 14: 32
          +2
          The circle of enemies is also not to be forgotten there, the contingent is no better.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 3 November 2021 16: 05
            0
            Quote: Incvizitor
            The circle of enemies is also not to be forgotten there, the contingent is no better.

            Completion of the transpolar highway.
          2. lis-ik
            lis-ik 3 November 2021 17: 08
            0
            Quote: Incvizitor
            The circle of enemies is also not to be forgotten there, the contingent is no better.

            I agree, although with such "friends" and enemies are not necessary.
      2. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 3 November 2021 14: 33
        -1
        Quote: Incvizitor
        It would be nice to have all the local slops (which whine like they feel bad in the Russian Federation)

        "It would be necessary to collect them all
        In one big herd
        And the atomic bomb
        Wipe out"
        Song from the USSR
    6. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 3 November 2021 14: 25
      +1
      Quote: Sauron80
      The cesspool will gratefully accept the slop from the "aggressor country" - news of the day laughing
      good And this should be welcomed. When there is a temptation to slip away without giving out, then the slop will rush out earlier and more. If only those and those did not change their minds. repeat
    7. Vend
      Vend 3 November 2021 14: 42
      0
      Quote: Sauron80
      The cesspool will gratefully accept the slop from the "aggressor country" - news of the day laughing

      It is necessary to send such trains of the world to Ukraine, let them remain there for life laughing
    8. Graz
      Graz 3 November 2021 16: 20
      0
      with obtaining a Ukrainian passport with the following wording. I think it is necessary to deprive a person of Russian citizenship and block his entry into our country, as they say, she died so died
  2. Alexga
    Alexga 3 November 2021 13: 38
    0
    What kind of injustice ?! Why were the fugitives from Belarus thrown ?!
    1. svp67
      svp67 3 November 2021 13: 48
      +2
      Quote: AlexGa
      What kind of injustice ?! Why were the fugitives from Belarus thrown ?!

      It's not time yet ... while you urgently sell electricity to them, it's stupid to exacerbate relations
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 3 November 2021 14: 04
        -1
        Well, you are the main trade partner for Ukraine, however, at the same time, you are an aggressor country. Here you have a multi-vector approach, to which Lukashenka is still a long way off.
        1. svp67
          svp67 3 November 2021 14: 24
          +2
          Quote: AlexGa
          Well, you are the main trade partner for Ukraine,

          No, the information is OUTDATE, now in this place they have China
          The trade balance at the end of 2020 is negative and amounts to $ 5 billion.
          Among the countries that imported the most to Ukraine:
          - China - $ 8,3 billion;
          - Germany - $ 5,1 billion;
          - Russia - $ 4,6 billion.
          Ukraine, in turn, exported most of all to the following countries:
          - China - by $ 7,1 billion;
          - Poland - by $ 3,3 billion;
          - Russia - $ 2,7 billion.
          1. Alexga
            Alexga 3 November 2021 14: 40
            -1
            Yes, you cited data for 2020, there is data for the first half of 21, there are China, the Russian Federation, and all the rest. China has increased its trade turnover by a third in 20 years.
            1. svp67
              svp67 3 November 2021 14: 46
              +2
              Quote: AlexGa
              there is China, Russia, and all the rest.

              But again, Russia is not the first, but in general for 2020
              Quote: AlexGa
              there is data for the first half of 21 years

              Please
              According to the results of the first quarter of 2021, China is Ukraine's largest foreign trade partner. The share of the Chinese state in the country's foreign turnover in the form of exports and imports of goods and services was 13%. The second place is occupied by Poland - 6,9%. The third place belongs to Germany - 6,5%. Russia closes the four with 6,1%. This is evidenced by the data of the State Statistics Service of Ukraine.
              According to the State Statistics Service, China occupies the first place in the foreign trade turnover of Ukraine - 13,0%, 4 million US dollars. This is followed by Poland - 290,4%, $ 6,9 million. Germany is in third place - 2%, $ 263,9 million.
              The fourth place belongs to Russia - 6,1%, $ 2 million.
              1. Alexga
                Alexga 3 November 2021 15: 03
                0
                Okay - okay, I don’t dispute your numbers, the question is more that those countries for Ukraine are not occupiers in their understanding, but they are "at war" with Russia. The other day I had a very meaningful conversation with one far from stupid resident, that is, they all believe there that the Russian Federation is very dependent on Ukraine. It's funny, of course, but they are completely sure of this there.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 3 November 2021 15: 14
                  0
                  Quote: AlexGa
                  I do not dispute your numbers

                  They are not mine, these are the figures of the Ukrainian statistical authorities
                  Quote: AlexGa
                  for Ukraine, they are not invaders in their understanding, but they are "at war" with Russia.

                  Yes, only with Russia WITHIN YOURSELF ...
                  Quote: AlexGa
                  The other day I had a very meaningful conversation with one far from stupid resident, that is, they all believe there that the Russian Federation is very dependent on Ukraine. It's funny, of course, but they are completely sure of this there.

                  And what do you want, there it is pouring into the ears from each "iron" ... I looked at their "box" for a couple of hours, so I was just shocked by that information. No matter what happens, no matter how bad, one must immediately blame Russia for everything.
                  I even remember a case when a woman in a car did not let pedestrians pass, knocked them down and screamed at the police under the camera that there is nothing to spread the rules of the "aggressor country" to her ... Both laughter and sin
                  1. Alexga
                    Alexga 3 November 2021 16: 41
                    +1
                    And what do you want, there it is pouring into the ears from each "iron" ... I looked at their "box" for a couple of hours, so I was just shocked by that information. No matter what happens, no matter how bad, one must immediately blame Russia for everything.

                    And this has a result in that society .. Even the grandmothers who bring and sell sunflower seeds in Minsk's Komarovka say: "It's nice and quiet here. You are lucky, Russia did not attack you!" And these are grannies from the Chernihiv region. And modern 40-year-old male representatives say these things. Russia is afraid of us, it needs trade with us and our gas transmission network, they handed out Russian passports to people in ORDLO (I apologize for this term, I am writing literally), but they are not able to protect them. And if they poke their heads at us, the West will destroy them with sanctions. Moreover, we were armed. We will burn tanks with Javilins, ground forces with Bayraktars, and from missiles we will have an Iron Dome. And in general, our military registration and enlistment offices are bursting with the influx of volunteers into the ATO zone. This is the opinion of that part of the population that is now in force in Ukraine. They have motivation and so far they are not afraid of anything. But now they can only be pacified by force. As far as a military conflict is not far, it is clear, but they will not immediately scatter from fear, yet. In my opinion, they should be closed within their own borders, stop all trade and let them boil in their own juice. Let them look for the guilty among themselves, gnaw at plenty. The West needs this audience for its Russophobia and as a sales market. Not humane, but something like that.
      2. Sheridan
        Sheridan 3 November 2021 14: 16
        -2
        Well, give dad ksivu "Honorary Ukrainian". He was slobbering about some kind of farm in Ukraine. This is up to 33 Wagnerians.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 3 November 2021 14: 40
      0
      They are noticed in Poland and Lithuania.
  3. svp67
    svp67 3 November 2021 13: 39
    +4
    Ukraine has simplified the acquisition of Ukrainian citizenship for some categories of persons, including those "persecuted by Russia." The corresponding decision was made by the Verkhovna Rada.
    All right ... now the people will trample ... negative
    1. major071
      major071 3 November 2021 13: 43
      +12
      If your spouse is menacing
      Forbidden to take a bottle
      Threatened with a frying pan
      Or with a rolling pin "for 100 grams"
      Threaten her to leave
      To Kharkov or even Kiev
      Fortunately, there is now citizenship
      Distribute to whomever they want.
      In the declaration, mark
      Like, they are pursuing, satraps
      Do not give a breath of freedom
      Or maybe a sip
      And then you will be given a passport
      With a coat of arms strange on the cover
      But vodka can be
      You will be free to drink
      wink drinks
      1. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 3 November 2021 14: 36
        +1
        Quote: major071
        But vodka can be
        You will be free to drink

        And speak Russian? lol
  4. Aleksandre
    Aleksandre 3 November 2021 13: 41
    +3
    Hmm, of course life situations can be different ... But such that you would have to run in / on? wassat
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 3 November 2021 13: 59
      +4
      Mmm, the Gaidar washed away ... I thought it would be like an indelible Georgian bear, but something went wrong and now nothing and no one is aloud about her. And as practice shows, those who escaped are sometimes shot there, and not at random, like Babchenko, but really, like Voronenkova. Well, apparently it depends on how loud the name of the victim can sound. hiPashinsky or whatever, there was such an actor in Russia, a restless, unnecessary shadow wanders around. This is also a variant of fate.
      1. Aleksandre
        Aleksandre 3 November 2021 14: 05
        +3
        Quote: VORON538
        Pashinsky or whatever, there was such an actor in Russia, a restless, unnecessary shadow wanders around. This is also a variant of fate.

        Pashinin. And after all, he was a very good actor, he watched the Storm Gate with him, for a war film he was not bad at all, and with a share of patriotism without pathos.
        1. VORON538
          VORON538 3 November 2021 14: 13
          +1
          Oh, right, Pashinin (well, at least not Pashinyan). Unfortunately, he was. And he went out all with his own settler and hatred of Russia. hiAt the moment, he and Porechenkov are on opposite sides of the front line, although he played well in that film. hi Apparently, the role turned out to be fatal at some point and the vodka did its job in reality. wink
        2. beeper
          beeper 3 November 2021 14: 17
          0
          He spoiled "Thunderstorm Gates" with his presence - it was not necessary to give Pashinin the role of a military officer, his own "eyes" could see what kind of person he was ... - after all, this is no theatrical make-up, "role-playing behavior on the stage" and "patriotic rhetoric "do not hide, no matter how you try! negative
          That is why in the punitive ukroband, who "tested him in action" in the Donbass, there was such disdain for this cowardly "notorious" insignificance with sadistic inclinations! wassat
          1. Aleksandre
            Aleksandre 3 November 2021 14: 22
            -1
            Quote: pishchak
            He spoiled the "Thunderstorm Gates" with his presence - it was not necessary to give Pashinin the role of a military officer, his own "eyes" could see what kind of person ...

            Oh, yes you see a prophet. Hindsight is strong. Why did they not sound the alarm at the time of the release of this mini-series, that is, ten years before Pashin's fireplace-out?
            1. beeper
              beeper 3 November 2021 15: 56
              0
              Alexander, just a great experience of working with people, including in extreme situations.
              Volens-nolens gains "intuition", a kind of ability to "read a person by the eyes", instinctively, instantly, determine who "with whom to go to reconnaissance", and on whom you cannot rely - will let you down in business - "not a fighter". winked I think that many of our readers themselves are well aware of this "elusive sensation", which is often confirmed when tested for lice.
              If you, Alexander, write to me this way about the "prophet and the hind mind", then, apparently, you did NOT have to be yourself in situations when a lot depended on the correct choice of this or that person "for the task", health and even the lives of those entrusted to you of people.
              And "to sound the alarm" (what kind of "alarm", Sasha ??!) From the fact that in the movie a positive hero is played by a "potential scoundrel", so how can you "cheer" on all such "flexible" actors ?! This time!
              And secondly, the director liked him too, and in his "victim's eyes" you did not see anything like that, did not "read" it. Why and for what purpose would someone like that "unreadable" prove something ?! smile
              After all, everyone comes and arrives at their own time (and some do not even have to face until their death), often through their own income! And it's good if everything ends well!
              I can only say that in extreme situations I have never made a mistake in people, my "chuyka" has NOT let me down, and I have NOT let anyone down, I have NOT betrayed, I have NOT tried to cheat, and I have NOT walked over people's heads!
              As you are to people, so are people to you! The first is to demand from yourself much stricter and more than you are going to demand from
              others and then everything will work out! yes
              I don’t watch modern Russian (American and other "a la Hollywood") films "about the war" - "The Storm Gates" were still nothing, but after watching the "masterpiece" Bondarchukov's "9th company", it cut off! negative
              1. Aleksandre
                Aleksandre 3 November 2021 16: 11
                0
                Quote: pishchak
                I can only say that in extreme situations I have never made a mistake in people, my "chuyka" has NOT let me down, and I have NOT let anyone down, I have NOT betrayed, I have NOT tried to cheat, and I have NOT walked over people's heads!

                How little meaning, how many words ... Apparently behind their wall you did not notice that this is an actor on the set, and not a certain person in extreme conditions. And what he played there at a certain moment with so disliked "uncomfortable eyes" let him remain on his conscience.
                I don’t watch modern Russian (American and other "a la Hollywood") films "about the war" - "The Storm Gates" were still nothing, but after watching the "masterpiece" Bondarchukov's "9th company", it cut off! negative

                There is an obvious temporal paradox: since the 9th company came out earlier than the Stormy Gates, then, according to your statement, you could not watch Stormy Gates, in principle laughing
                And with Kokorin, I somehow accidentally met in the hall, not such a starry comrade, normal, although in life it is even worse)
                1. beeper
                  beeper 3 November 2021 16: 26
                  0
                  Alexander, everything is simple - "Thunderstorm Gates" looked before "9th company". yes
        3. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 3 November 2021 14: 40
          0
          Quote: Aleksandre
          Pashinin. And he was a very good actor,

          It was a shock to me when I found out that he had gone to fight against the LPNR
          For some reason, after the film "Stormy Gates" I considered him a citizen of the Russian Federation request
          1. Aleksandre
            Aleksandre 3 November 2021 15: 52
            +1
            Quote: Seryoga64
            It was a shock to me when I found out that he had gone to fight against the LPNR
            For some reason, after the film "Stormy Gates" I considered him a citizen of the Russian Federation request

            If I am not mistaken, he had both Ukrainian and Russian citizenship.
            And if so, then his choice, no matter how crooked it is, is his right. I also want to note that for his decision he was not afraid to sacrifice a rather successful acting career, unlike many other "pats-reots" who choose where it is tastier and fatter.
            1. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 3 November 2021 16: 10
              0
              Quote: Aleksandre
              that he was not afraid to sacrifice a rather successful acting career for his decision,

              But now he tells everyone that he made a mistake
              1. Aleksandre
                Aleksandre 3 November 2021 16: 12
                0
                Quote: Seryoga64
                But now he tells everyone that he made a mistake

                Well, at least he understood that, it means not to obsess over the meaning of the brain.
                Unfortunately, many mistakes are made only once.
                1. Seryoga64
                  Seryoga64 3 November 2021 16: 18
                  -1
                  Quote: Aleksandre
                  Unfortunately, many mistakes are made only once.

                  Only now the outskirts are constantly jumping on a rake
      2. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 3 November 2021 14: 37
        +2
        Quote: VORON538
        , the restless-unnecessary shadow wanders.

        And whines that there is not enough money
  5. Boromir1941
    Boromir1941 3 November 2021 13: 45
    +1
    mm, all the rabble to themselves. cool
  6. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 3 November 2021 13: 50
    +3
    Insanity grew stronger. Ukraine is turning into a state of outcasts and traitors. Not surprising, given the personality of their Mazepa.
    1. HAM
      HAM 3 November 2021 14: 29
      0
      Doesn't it resemble a country across the ocean? There the same, at one time, merged ...
  7. Tagan
    Tagan 3 November 2021 13: 52
    +3
    This is just some kind of holiday!
    As I understand it, with this bill, Ukraine declares itself a settler with its own hand.
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 3 November 2021 14: 01
      +2
      Cesspool. hi
  8. beeper
    beeper 3 November 2021 14: 02
    +1
    Any international "nepotribu", any crooks, swindlers and criminals hiding from criminal punishment, inveterate sadists and murderers, and so it is already simplified to obtain ukrozhdeniya, take, for example, the same Georgian war criminal Miha Sahak!
    How much easier it is ?! winked
  9. YOUR
    YOUR 3 November 2021 14: 03
    +1
    There are crowds on the borders with Ukraine. And everyone is shouting to me to me, give me speed.
    If only Ksyusha had knocked the horse over there, she was running around in a wreath and in an embroidered shirt.
  10. Xlor
    Xlor 3 November 2021 14: 13
    -1
    Everything floats to Ukraine ... but - Kiselev (who is Yevgeny), Gaidar (who is Maria), Saakashvili, the journalists of Echo of Moscow and much, much more ...
  11. Silver Fox
    Silver Fox 3 November 2021 14: 19
    0
    What's the point of running there for traitors or liberals. It's easier to go to London or the USA. In Ukraine, they will say Putin ordered more.
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 3 November 2021 14: 20
    0
    Now rabble from all over the world will be drawn to fight in the Donbass. Whether they will fight or not, they will receive citizenship for sure. And what will Ukraine itself gain from this? Now the barmaley from Syria will rush there
  13. askort154
    askort154 3 November 2021 14: 25
    +2
    Our Duma needs to adopt an amendment to the Criminal Code on the measure of punishment, instead of a strict regime colony - sending to a permanent place of residence, to Ukraine. crying
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 3 November 2021 20: 01
      0
      How cruel you are ... lol
      This is very inhumane. Can give all the same a chance for re-education, at least one?
  14. Berg berg
    Berg berg 3 November 2021 14: 26
    0
    Hooray ! Finally, there will be a place where liberals and the fifth column will be squeezed out of Great Russia! )
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 3 November 2021 20: 06
      0
      Hmm, they probably won’t bother, and here’s why.

      Here, in Russia, they are who. They are the opposition! Fighters for democratic values. It's cool (for them).
      And there? And there they will be ordinary Euro-Sumerians among thousands of themselves-like Skakuas. It turns out sadly .... (for them)
  15. Prisoner
    Prisoner 3 November 2021 14: 31
    +1
    what Your own garbage is not enough, have you decided to clean up ours too? Well, the flag in hand.
  16. UVB
    UVB 3 November 2021 14: 31
    +1
    It would be better to simplify the procedure for renouncing this citizenship. For residents of the LDNR, especially those who have received passports of the Russian Federation, this is practically unrealistic.
  17. Yang yangov
    Yang yangov 3 November 2021 14: 34
    +7
    I think it is necessary to introduce an article for theft in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. send as punishment in / to Ukraine .. I think they will stop stealing.
  18. Vlad69
    Vlad69 3 November 2021 15: 02
    0
    And that, the queue has already lined up. Can I borrow?
  19. Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 November 2021 15: 03
    -1
    Ha, and there are many who want to sell their homeland? It seems like there are different Pashinins, Gorbunovs and other riffraff squeaking.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 3 November 2021 15: 38
      0
      Gorbunov, it seems, was originally a citizen of Ukraine, he just worked in the Russian Federation.
  20. Cowbra
    Cowbra 3 November 2021 15: 44
    0
    Good news. A woman with a cart - and the wolves are fed (Voronenkov will confirm). And there are less trash in Russia
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 3 November 2021 16: 49
      0
      "Echo of Moscow" to send there in bulk
  21. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 4 November 2021 00: 07
    0
    I'm trying to get rid of Ukrainian citizenship, so banana. They are kept on a leash, even taking into account the receipt of at least many other citizenships of different countries.
    1. Chever
      Chever 4 November 2021 17: 06
      0
      Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
      I'm trying to get rid of Ukrainian citizenship, so banana. They are kept on a leash, even taking into account the receipt of at least how many other citizenships of different countries

      Are you Ukrainian and you are not allowed to withdraw your Ukrainian citizenship?
      1. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 5 November 2021 14: 17
        0
        I am Russian with a Ukrainian passport, but I have several other citizenships, including Russian.
        These ukr_upyrs do not allow to withdraw citizenship, in any way.
        1. Chever
          Chever 6 November 2021 03: 47
          0
          Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
          These ukr_upyrs do not allow to withdraw citizenship, in any way.

          Strange situation
          1. Sands Careers General
            Sands Careers General 6 November 2021 16: 27
            0
            Here I am about the same. The situation is not just strange, but frankly idiotic.
  22. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 4 November 2021 19: 33
    +1
    Take away from us Lesha Analny, Gozman, Venediktov, Nadezhdin, Akhedzhakova, Makarevich and other liberal trash.
  23. Borisych
    Borisych 5 November 2021 13: 26
    0
    The government is bad in Ukraine. Therefore, there is no state either. What kind of country can there be if there is not a president in it, then a gopnik.