"Interception of missiles in 90% of cases": In Germany, they talked about the tests of Israeli-made KAZ on Leopard 2 tanks

The Federal Ministry of Defense of Germany told about the successful tests of the active protection complex (KAZ) Trophy of Israeli production, which were installed on the German tanks Leopard 2. The Israeli Defense Ministry clarified that this project appeared thanks to an agreement with the German defense department, signed at the beginning of last year.

It is reported by the Israeli newspaper Globes.

Testing of protective equipment was carried out jointly by its developer, Rafael (Israel) and the German company Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW), which produces armored vehicles.

The tests tested not only the anti-missile system itself, but also its effectiveness when installed on German Leopard 2 tanks. During the test, it turned out that the interception of enemy missiles was successful in 90 percent of cases. The Bundeswehr believes that this is an acceptable figure, but it can "be increased." True, it is not entirely clear due to what and by whom.

In addition, the installed equipment has shown its effectiveness in determining the location from which a shot was fired at the tank, according to the Israeli press.

What specific ammunition was used in tests against Leopard 2 tanks is not reported. A video with specific footage about KAZ testing was also not published.

It is known that it is precisely such complexes that the Israeli military installs on their Merkava Mark 4 tanks. Trophy systems were also sold to the US Army and installed on a number of Abrams tanks.

Comments

[svp67]

During the audit, it turned out that the interception of enemy missiles was successful in 90 percent of cases.

And regarding the interception of BOPS, what is the percentage?

True, it is not entirely clear due to what and by whom exactly.

Well, for example, due to new software, as a result of which the reliability of information about approaching missiles will be increased

[Finches]

Only two nations know how to make tanks for war: the Germans and the Russians! Others know how to make tanks for sale! Jews stand apart, they are the only ones who know how to make tanks exclusively against Masulman!

[svp67]

Quote: Finches

Only two nations know how to make tanks for war: the Germans and the Russians! Others know how to make tanks for sale! Jews stand apart, they are the only ones who know how to make tanks exclusively against Masulman!

If you knew how many Jews there are among Russian designers of tanks ... you wouldn't say so

[atalef]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Finches

Only two nations know how to make tanks for war: the Germans and the Russians! Others know how to make tanks for sale! Jews stand apart, they are the only ones who know how to make tanks exclusively against Masulman!

If you knew how many Jews there are among Russian designers of tanks ... you wouldn't say so

Do you know, can you give me a link?

[svp67]

Quote: atalef

Do you know, can you give me a link?

Well, you just need to remember the name Zaltsman, and ask your mother-in-law in Kiev about the rest, they know everything there for sure

[rocket757]

Quote: svp67

Quote: atalef

Do you know, can you give me a link?

Well, you just need to remember the name Zaltsman, and ask your mother-in-law in Kiev about the rest, they know everything there for sure

Zaltsman was the head, the organizer of the production ... nearby, but not the designer.
Oh yes, he was still a SOVIET high-level manager, as they would say now.
There are, undoubtedly, merits, but ... however, among the designers and other technical workers, there were plenty of his fellow tribesmen, this fact should not be ignored!
But among the creators, general designers of tanks ... I do not know such.
However, they were all SOVIET PEOPLE, made their own contribution to the creation of the power of the Country of Soviets, and that says it all.

[atalef]

Quote: rocket757

Quote: svp67

Quote: atalef

Do you know, can you give me a link?

Well, you just need to remember the name Zaltsman, and ask your mother-in-law in Kiev about the rest, they know everything there for sure

Zaltsman was the head, the organizer of the production ... nearby, but not the designer.
Oh yes, he was still a SOVIET high-level manager, as they would say now.
There are, undoubtedly, merits, but ... however, among the designers and other technical workers, there were plenty of his fellow tribesmen, this fact should not be ignored!
But among the creators, general designers of tanks ... I do not know such.
However, they were all SOVIET PEOPLE, made their own contribution to the creation of the power of the Country of Soviets, and that says it all.

The conversation was about tank building in Israel, where there were a lot of * Russians * - so I asked for the facts.
And in response, silence

[svp67]

Quote: atalef

The conversation was about tank building in Israel, where there were a lot of * Russians * - so I asked for the facts.
And in response, silence

Excuse me, but when and who in general remembered tank building in Israel? Answer this question and you will receive an answer to your own and even a mother-in-law in Kiev is not needed

[My doctor]

Quote: atalef

The conversation was about tank building in Israel, where there were a lot of * Russians * - so I asked for the facts.
And in response, silence

Uh?

Quote: svp67

If you knew how many Jews there are among Russian designers of tanks ... you wouldn't say so

This is not about the designers of Jewish tanks. And about the fact that among the designers of Russian tanks were Jews

[Shahno]

Why, Kotin Joseph is the chief designer, Baran Yakov is the deputy chief designer, Vikhman Yakov is the deputy chief designer .. This is who was specifically engaged in the design of tanks ...

[svp67]

Quote: rocket757

Zaltsman was the head, the organizer of the production ... nearby, but not the designer.

To it can be added Major General Khaim Rubinchik, director of the Krasnoe Sormovo shipyard, which produced the T-34 throughout the war.
And into the account that they are not designers ... so I disagree. Only excellent knowledge of materiel allowed them to establish mass production.

[Shahno]

Yes ... But there is still a difference. For example, Kuznetsov N. D, I would undoubtedly refer to the chief designers .... But let's turn our gaze to the painful, Mask and Rogozin would not take it.
Ps. In general, I am familiar with the activities of Zaltsman. A bright figure, a People's Commissar, but not a Designer. Although I personally did not know, unlike NK, I may be mistaken ... If you were to cite his scientific publications, I would, of course, ponder.

[Shahno]

The guys who pass by here, you have an education, that is, to minus.
You look like Gen. You cannot distinguish a constructor from a production organizer ... but all the same.
For this, well, at least an MBA, Phd of Engineering ... and 20 years of work.

[atalef]

Quote: svp67

Quote: atalef

Do you know, can you give me a link?

Well, you just need to remember the name Zaltsman, and ask your mother-in-law in Kiev about the rest, they know everything there for sure

I did not remember, specify who it is and then, you here crucified about many.
Therefore, please, a reference.
And without flooding, pliz

[svp67]

Quote: atalef

I didn't remember

Then what to talk to you about ...

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: svp67

Quote: atalef

Do you know, can you give me a link?

Well, you just need to remember the name Zaltsman, and ask your mother-in-law in Kiev about the rest, they know everything there for sure

Well this is history. And of course there were Joseph Yakovlevich Kotin and Lev Izraelivich Gorlitsky and Semyon Aleksandrovich Ginzburg.

[Flooding]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

there were, of course, Joseph Yakovlevich Kotin and Lev Izraelivich Gorlitsky and Semyon Aleksandrovich Ginzburg.

"On March 10 (old style - February 26), 1908, in the city of Pavlograd, Yekaterinoslav province (now - Dnepropetrovsk region of Ukraine), the fifth child was born in the family of the worker Yakov Antonovich Kotin - a boy who was named Joseph in honor of his great-grandfather from the mother's side of Sofia Stanislavovna. The boy's ancestor, a Russified Pole, settled in the outskirts of Pavlograd on the banks of the Volchya River at the beginning of the XNUMXth century, during the period of settlement of the lower Dnieper steppes. "

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Flood

Quote: Aron Zaavi

there were, of course, Joseph Yakovlevich Kotin and Lev Izraelivich Gorlitsky and Semyon Aleksandrovich Ginzburg.

"On March 10 (old style - February 26), 1908, in the city of Pavlograd, Yekaterinoslav province (now - Dnepropetrovsk region of Ukraine), the fifth child was born in the family of the worker Yakov Antonovich Kotin - a boy who was named Joseph in honor of his great-grandfather from the mother's side of Sofia Stanislavovna. The boy's ancestor, a Russified Pole, settled in the outskirts of Pavlograd on the banks of the Volchya River at the beginning of the XNUMXth century, during the period of settlement of the lower Dnieper steppes. "

Born on February 26 (March 10), 1908 in Pavlograd, Yekaterinoslavskaya province (now Dnepropetrovsk region, Ukraine), into a Jewish family, was the fifth child in the family (the other 4 girls); in childhood he bore the name Zelik.

[Flooding]

I know one thing for sure: one of us is right))

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Flood

I know one thing for sure: one of us is right))

One-to-one.

[svp67]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

And of course there were

and also ... Chernyak B.A., Mitnik A.Ya., Shpaykhler A.I., Schwarzburg M.B., and the designer of tank diesel engines Vikhman Yakov Efimovich

[rocket757]

Well, there is no reason to argue. There were many talented people in the Soviet Union, MANY NATIONALITIES !!!
However, people of opposite inclinations do not have a national attachment !!!

[Bad_gr]

Quote: svp67

And regarding the interception of BOPS, what is the percentage?

I think 0%.
For your information:

Interception speed of KAZ "Trophy" ---------------- 250 m / s,
--------------------------- KAZ "Arena" --------------- 70-700 m / s

The muzzle velocity of the APCR projectile ---------- 1715 m / s,
The muzzle velocity of the ZBK-14 cumulative projectile - 905 m / s.
ATGM "Attack" has a speed ---------------------------------550m / s.
RPG-29 "Vampire" rocket speed ---------------------------255 m / s
9M113 "Competition" - rocket speed --------------------------208 m / s

The basic version of the Israeli KAZ Trophy, developed for the Merkava tanks, weighs 771 kilograms. The mass of the Russian "Arena" reaches 1300 kilograms ...

[voyaka uh]

Trophy was not designed to intercept OBPS.
He is against RPG grenades and ATGMs.
Most of the losses of tanks are from them.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Bad_gr

Interception speed of KAZ "Trophy" ---------------- 250 m / s,

Is there a link to the original source? Or from a finger?

[Bad_gr]

Quote: And Us Rat

Is there a link to the original source? Or from a finger?

Well, as far as my imagination was enough, I composed the whole post.
But seriously:
information is pulled from various sources.
About the limitation of 250m / sec - it looks quite reliable, since mortars with a charge to counteract incoming enemy ammunition are induced mechanically (which cannot be fast) and only after that the shooting is carried out, moreover, they need to hit the incoming ammunition.
At our "Arena", an ammunition (submunition?) Is fired, which is initially aimed at the desired sector, and, from top to bottom, it knocks down the enemy's incoming ammunition with fragments. No fine-tuning is required, which means everything happens faster.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Bad_gr

About the limitation of 250m / s - it looks quite reliable

Why not 350? Or not 120? What is the "credibility" of your numbers based on? On a spherical horse in a vacuum?

Quote: Bad_gr

Well, how long was my fantasy

Closest to the truth.

Quote: Bad_gr

At our own "Arena"

Generally not interested at the moment, the article is not about her.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: And Us Rat

Why not 350? Or not 120?

Because in the article I read, it was precisely "250 m / s" that was indicated for the "Trophy".
If you have other information, I would like to hear the numbers, not your rantings.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Bad_gr

Because in the article I read, it was precisely "250 m / s" that was indicated for the "Trophy".

Which brings us back to my first question, is there a link? Or at least the title and name of the author?

Quote: Bad_gr

If you have other information, I would like to hear the numbers

And it is not in the public domain, I specifically checked a number of sources that have at least some accreditation from the manufacturer, ANYWHERE are there any numbers related to the speed of targets. So, with a probability of 99.999% you are replicating someone's baseless fantasies.

https://www.rafael.co.il/worlds/land/trophy-aps/

[Bad_gr]

Quote: And Us Rat

.... is there a link? Or at least the title and name of the author?

There is no link. I didn't think it would be so important, and I just copied the data for myself. This figure does not contradict my ideas of how KAZ Trophy works.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Bad_gr

This figure does not contradict my idea of ​​how KAZ Trophy works.

This is demagoguery.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: And Us Rat

This is demagoguery.

Let's get back to the beginning.
From the data I found on the Internet, I collected a table and published it in my message.
You, besides your reasoning and doubts, did not provide anything.
And which of us is a demagogue?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Bad_gr

From the data I found on the Internet, I collected a table and published it in my message.

But so nothing and without confirming its reliability.

Quote: Bad_gr

You, besides your reasoning and doubts, did not provide anything.

What was I supposed to present? Am I throwing myself with unverifiable numbers?

Quote: Bad_gr

Let's get back to the beginning.

Let's go back. So are you eating reliable evidence of your numbers, or not?

Quote: Bad_gr

And which of us is a demagogue?

You apparently do not understand this term. Or would you like to give an example of a SPECIFIC demagogic technique that I used? With its name in Latin?

Quote: Bad_gr

This figure does not contradict my idea of ​​how KAZ Trophy works.

And here is a good example of weak casuistry. Let me remind you that you have not been able to substantiate what your "ideas" are based on, except for fantasies.

[verdict]

And also to know how many immigrants from the Soviet Union left for Israel and raised there the scientific sphere of tank building (and not only) of Israel, which they now use so well !!!

[verdict]

Offended Jews pass by)))

[I am not a robot]

and what's wrong with this, among the German designers there were other nationalities, probably there were also Jews

[neri73-r]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Finches

Only two nations know how to make tanks for war: the Germans and the Russians! Others know how to make tanks for sale! Jews stand apart, they are the only ones who know how to make tanks exclusively against Masulman!

If you knew how many Jews there are among Russian designers of tanks ... you wouldn't say so

They are Russian (Soviet) Jews.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Finches

Only two nations know how to make tanks for war: the Germans and the Russians!

And the Sumerians?
They even have children of 15 years old know how to make tanks.

[merkava-2bet]

As usual, just to blurt out crap.

[Aaron Zawi]

It is known that it is precisely such complexes that the Israeli military installs on their Merkava Mark 4 tanks. Trophy systems were also sold to the US Army and installed on a number of Abrams tanks.

By the way, Trophy is already being tried in Korea and Great Britain.

[kytx]

Something the Saudis were unhappy with Leopard 2 in Libya, unlike Leclerc

[svp67]

Quote: kytx

Something the Saudis were unhappy with Leopard 2 in Libya, unlike Leclerc

So, it is enough to compare the losses of this and that equipment, both combat and technical

[kytx]

So compare
Leclerc lost none
Leo several pieces irrevocably
Incidentally, our BMP3, they were also unhappy when it came to the real OBD well, then the inability to apply played a role

[sash-sash]

American-made tanks have the highest results of wars after World War II.
Yes, of course they lie ... and the Arab-Israeli wars are invented, and the wars in the Gulf ... are slandered.

[svp67]

Quote: sash-sash

and the Arab-Israeli wars - invented

And how did the American tanks distinguish themselves there? Enlighten

Quote: sash-sash

Yes, of course they lie ... and the Arab-Israeli wars are invented, and the wars in the Gulf ... are slandered.

And the Vietnam War? Indo-Pakistani?

[sash-sash]

And what were the Jewish tankers fighting on? We look in "anal" -
537 "Magakh" (М48 / 60), including at least 345 "Magakh-3" (М48А1 and М48А2С, upgraded to the level of М48А3, including 105-mm gun), 50 "Magah-6" (М60) and 100 " Magah-6 Aleph "(М60А1); it's only on "Doomsday"
As for Viet Nam, what kind of tank "battles" were there adequate to the term?
Hindus with Pakistan - hell knows, was not interested. hope indians are better

[svp67]

Quote: sash-sash

And what were the Jewish tankers fighting on? We look in "anal" -

The composition of the Israeli tank fleet on October 6, 1973 was as follows:
1009 Shot (Centurion, all with 105mm guns), including 787 Shot Kal and 222 Shot Meteor;
537 "Magakh" (М48 / 60), including at least 345 "Magakh-3" (М48А1 and М48А2С, upgraded to the level of М48А3, including 105-mm gun), 50 "Magah-6" (М60) and 100 " Magah-6 Aleph "(М60А1);
146 "Tiran-4/5" (T-54/55, most or all with 105mm guns);
341 "Sherman" M50 and M51 (75-mm and 105-mm guns, respectively).
So which tanks did the Israelis have more? And with what tanks did they stop the Syrians?

[sash-sash]

According to your figures, there are 978 American-made cars.
"We already choked cats - choked, choked-choked"

[svp67]

Quote: sash-sash

According to your figures, there are 978 American-made cars.
"We already choked cats - choked, choked-choked"

And nevertheless, the "hero" of that war was "Centurion"

[sash-sash]

You can't argue with that! But FOR ALL the post-war period, American cars "filled" the most. Although without a global number. The score was well added by the Gulf War.

[svp67]

Quote: sash-sash

But FOR ALL the post-war period, American cars "filled" the most.

Again, a big doubt ... Our tank often had to fight against each other, so it is unlikely that anyone here will tell the exact figure

[sash-sash]

yes, this question is hardly possible to clarify ...

[Krasnodar]

Quote: svp67

Quote: sash-sash

and the Arab-Israeli wars - invented

And how did the American tanks distinguish themselves there? Enlighten

Quote: sash-sash

Yes, of course they lie ... and the Arab-Israeli wars are invented, and the wars in the Gulf ... are slandered.

And the Vietnam War? Indo-Pakistani?

In the Vietnamese "northerners" they used them (against the Americans) limitedly and only PT 76. In the Indo-Pakistani - yes, the Indians of the Pak were cut into T-55s.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Finches

Only two nations know how to make tanks for war: the Germans and the Russians!

Maybe so, but you forgot that the tank also comes with a crew. Arabs in Russian tanks - how would it be softer and more inoffensive ... about anything ... The Arab-Israeli wars, in general, have clearly shown this.

[bovi]

and vice versa is also true; boys from different civilizations in those tanks were ...

[Hypertension]

Quote: bovi

and vice versa is also true

Right.

Quote: bovi

boys from different civilizations in those tanks were ...

Boys, of course. Not girls? Some boys are in tanks, others are in headquarters. All wars from the beginning of the emergence of human society have been started by boys. It is only in our time that girls meet in the army ...

[bovi]

I’m more about the fact that if they are conscripts, then they are a complete product of society (and the relations of production that exist in it). Reservists in Israel can be at the training camp at forty, there, of course, is a different life experience. But in general, the qualities of an Arab soldier are predetermined by social development and it is difficult to assess it without contact with both. There is too much "notion in general" bias when comparing sides in the Israeli wars.

[Hypertension]

Quote: bovi

if they are conscripts, then they are absolutely a product of society

As well as the grown-ups at the headquarters.

Quote: bovi

But in general, the qualities of an Arab soldier are predetermined by social development and it is difficult to assess it without contact with both.

Yes, easy: the Arabs missed, having superiority in technology and personnel - the rating is "unsatisfactory."

[bovi]

Andrey, forgive me for correcting persistently again. As a Soviet person, I constantly wondered what I was and what they were when I found myself in a new environment. The easiest way to understand this was through an analysis of the history of industrial relations in the family - where and by whom and how the ancestors worked. Two chelas doing the same job. Soviet people are looking for their place in common work. And the Arabian people can only represent their brothers in society. But it does not mean that the "Arab" is the "Arab" brother automatically, rather it is a hierarchy of relations who is forced to accept whom. All this has nothing to do with the circumstances of the activity, but determines the willingness to cooperate in essence, and not at the superficial level "brother, how can you, of course we are together."
I will not pretend that I fully understand what was in their heads, but it is enough to continue the already indicated line: people from a culture with less developed production relations and the masses are not suitable for functioning adequately conceived in the technology of a more developed society. Personally and individually, there can be pleasant exceptions.

[Hypertension]

It seems to me that all your text can be fit into one phrase, authored by the Jews: "Arabs are good warriors, but bad soldiers."

[Shket53]

I don’t know why you were slapped with 14 minuses ... but you’re right ... only Russia and Germany can make tanks for war .... uh ... well, also Israel (although never a Jew) .... there our former ones (or maybe sent ones, it was not for nothing that Vysotsky sang "and there are half our people") ... I think a part of our tank school was brought there. Sincerely

[Maz]

A question to Voyaka, how many anti-missiles are there in this Israeli KAZ, which sides are oriented in the package, how many packages, and how is the reloading process going on? Where is the transportable stock located? And how many spare charges are there on the tank?

[merkava-2bet]

There are films on YouTube, as well as the Dressed in Armor website, where I posted several photos of the Merkava-4Mam tank with the improved KAZ Vetrovka.

[merkava-2bet]

KAZ Needle Porcupine is already being shot down by BOPS, and KAZ Vetrovka was originally against WG and ATGM and only against them and not kinetics.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: svp67

And regarding the interception of BOPS, what is the percentage?

And the analogs of the "Hook" were hardly used

And with the roof-fighters, like the Trophy, are they doing?

[Cowbra]

Yes, only one question - WHAT missiles? I remember ours checked RPGs and SPG shots ... He's also a grenade launcher - and specifically a different result. Again, Fagot and Attack have two times different speeds - but will your KAZ miss

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Cowbra

Yes, only one question - WHAT missiles? I remember ours checked RPGs and SPG shots ... He's also a grenade launcher - and specifically a different result. Again, Fagot and Attack have two times different speeds - but will your KAZ miss

There is no perfect weapon. And any KAZ and any missile defense system can be overcome. The question is in the outfit of forces required for this.

[spirit]

Well, for me, the main clientele of Kaz is ATGM and RPG, in conditional local and regional conflicts, here it increases survivability at times. When Bops and air-based ATGMs come into play here, Kazs on tanks will definitely not play a decisive role, so countering them is relegated to the background

[Cowbra]

And I would say that apparently. namely ATGM, but they are also different. So the question is - from whom are they protecting, from which ATGMs?
In short, only real combat use will show whether there is any sense in the KAZ at all. Nifiga has not been applied yet

[atalef]

Quote: Cowbra

And I would say that apparently. namely ATGM, but they are also different. So the question is - from whom are they protecting, from which ATGMs?
In short, only real combat use will show whether there is any sense in the KAZ at all. Nifiga has not been applied yet

They have been used more than once, there are even videos on the Internet.
Against RPGs and Cornets.

[voyaka uh]

"Is there any sense in KAZ at all. So far, no nifiga has been used" ///
---
There were three cases of combat use.
In Gaza.
One intercept RPG grenade.
And two ATGM interceptions in urban environments.

[Cowbra]

Quote: voyaka uh

And two ATGM interceptions in urban environments.

Those. I strongly suspect, old generations, such as ATGM Baby, which is 5 times slower than Attack, and RPG flies at the same speed, kompren woo? Now we take real databases, which the Germans can face ... Trample on chasing even the same Houthis as part of Nata, but they have fresher, well, or also a question, even a slow Javelin flies two or three times faster than an RPG - will it be shot down? So for now, nothing is clear. Although, they say, Cornet - he also gives 300 m / s ...

[voyaka uh]

In Gaza, one of the downed ATGMs was Kornet.
The second is unclear. But not Baby.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Cowbra

Those. strongly suspect, old generations, such as ATGM Baby, which is 5 times slower

where there, the Arabs with Panzerfaust smacked, They do not have babies yet.
here is a photo of the shelling of the Merkava in gas

[merkava-2bet]

At KAZ Vetrovka, the principle of destroying incoming WGs and ATGMs is detonating ammunition on a launcher on the principle of a multi-nuclear "Cumulative core", all other types of KAZs are throwing or shooting ammunition and then detonating. This method has pros and cons, plus or less dependence of KAZ on speed approaching enemy missiles, since the speed of the multi-core is more than 2000m / s, it is minus-hard to destroy the BOPS.

[Seryoga64]

however, it can "be increased." True, it is not entirely clear due to what and by whom exactly.

How incomprehensible it is.
Chinese Blocks

[stone]

The source is not 90 percent. More than 90 percent! As always, to embellish a little about your own, about someone else's - on the contrary, to belittle

[kytx]

"What specific ammunition was used in tests against Leopard 2 tanks is not reported."

But they kept silent about the most interesting :(

[sash-sash]

The Bundeswehr believes that this is an acceptable figure, but it can "be increased." True, it is not entirely clear due to what and by whom exactly.

The last phrase "strange" is an attempt to raise doubts about the engineering talents of the Germans and Israelis. Generally speaking, it is stupid and funny.

[pytar]

During the audit, it turned out that the interception of enemy missiles was successful in 90 percent of cases. The Bundeswehr believes that this is an acceptable figure, but it can "be increased." True, it is not entirely clear due to what and by whom exactly.

Obviously, not only I was amused by the given passage! The author vserioz believes that the developers should share with everyone how they intend to improve the efficiency of the system?

[tralflot1832]

KAZ is good, they want to destroy the tank by all available means. For example, KAZ is completely ineffective against anti-tank mines. The Germans will not let you lie, on the Kursk Bulge the main losses of the Eliphants are anti-tank mines. Although the Eliphant himself was not killed.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: tralflot1832

KAZ is good, they want to destroy the tank by all available means. For example, KAZ is completely ineffective against anti-tank mines. The Germans will not let you lie, on the Kursk Bulge the main losses of the Eliphants are anti-tank mines. Although the Eliphant himself was not killed.

These are losses from enemy opposition. And the bulk of Ferdinand's losses at the Kursk Bulge was from the engine failure - in the memoirs of German tankers this is described by several authors - in 1943 the engine was not bluntly modified for such a machine.

[tralflot1832]

Of the 21 recognized destruction of the Ferdinands (by the Germans), 8 were blown up by mines. Yes, there were cases of a bomb with a PE 2 in the wheelhouse, or a 203 mm projectile in the commander's hatch.

[Krasnodar]

Once again, these are losses from enemy countermeasures.

[Block_Byte]

And we have grates on the side and on top ))

[Klingon]

And how will this KAZ behave against homing elements with a shock core? I mean the cluster filling of ammunition from tornadoes, for example

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Klingon

And how will this KAZ behave against homing elements with a shock core? I mean the cluster filling of ammunition from tornadoes, for example

Such garbage will simply demolish the KAZ and everything on the surface of the tank.

[Mavrikiy]

The Bundeswehr believes that this is an acceptable figure, but it can "Can be increased". True, it is not entirely clear due to what ... specifically.

With ease. Use ATGMs with the transmission of commands by wire (the speed is lower, the effectiveness of protection is higher )

[Yang yangov]

in this case, a counter with Germany, the Israeldefense website, referring to the German website ES&T, reported that it was a small deal, for 43 million euros, for the supply of 23-25 ​​KAZ Trophy kits for 30 million euros and ammunition for them for 13 million euros. Delivery time - 2023. However, on the ES&T website itself, in an article dated February 1, 2021, we are talking about 23 KAZ kits, ammunition and services worth 40 million euros, the delivery time is named the same. KMW received a separate BAAINBw contract for 80 million euros for the integration of KAZ Trophy on Leopard 2 tanks, and it is said that the German government will transfer 17 Leopard 2A6A3 tanks to KMW and one test vehicle turret (Leopard 2 VT-ETB), and after the installation of the KAZ turret will be installed on new KMW Leopard 2A7 chassis equipped with a more powerful auxiliary power unit.

The new 18 tanks obtained in this way (an experimental vehicle and a company set of 17 tanks), which, according to the KMW press release, were previously designated Leopard 2A7A1, will be delivered to the Bundeswehr in 2024-2025.

[Yang yangov]

Leopard 2A7A1 now on bridges - only disassembled? Leopard 2A7 + weighs 67,5 tons.

[Block_Byte]

May our rockets not penetrate our gratings from the side and from above.
Lattices are the surest power!

[Analkara]

During the audit, it turned out that the interception of enemy missiles was successful in 90 percent of cases.

You shouldn't dwell on this so much, because this is a PR of cut-off technologies through verbal diarrhea.

[Eraser]

And can someone from the knowledgeable explain what will happen to the KAZ antenna unit, mounted on the tower, if a pair of bullets of, say, .338LM caliber hits it?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Eraser

And can someone from the knowledgeable explain what will happen to the KAZ antenna unit, mounted on the tower, if a pair of bullets of, say, .338LM caliber hits it?

12,7 mm will surely damage them, from 7,62, it seems, are protected

[Eraser]

I am trying to figure out what kind of radio-transparent material can reliably close such a box at least from a B-32 from the SVD, and I just ask for a daw. Imagination is lacking. Or is the antenna itself bulletproof?

[Krasnodar]

I read that it is protected from bullets / shrapnel

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Eraser

Or is the antenna itself bulletproof?

The canvas itself is AFAR. And even if part of the transmitting and receiving modules is damaged, it continues to perform its functions.

[Oleg Olkha]

"... The trials included various scenarios to challenge the system with over 90% of attacks on the tanks intercepted while the location of the source of fire was also accurately detected." More than 90% ... https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-rafaels-protection-system-installed-on-german-army-tanks-1001389515

[Graz]

hmm, the Germans seemed to have their own developed KAZ, which did not grow together to see

[Block_Byte]

Against our grilles and the visor does not channel.
We are power - grids are power !!!
We can repeat - take Berlin!