A retired US Navy submarine officer spoke about the possible circumstances of the collision of the Connecticut nuclear submarine with an underwater rock

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Collisions between ships and underwater objects are rare. However, the stars converged last month, and a US Navy attack submarine collided with such an object in the South China Sea.

The US Navy has launched an investigation into the incident. As a result, the following was established: the Seawolf-class attack nuclear submarine Connecticut touched an unknown underwater rock (it was allegedly not on naval maps). At least, this is what the country's defense officials told reporters.



As a result of the collision, the submarine was damaged (ballast tanks in the front of the nuclear submarine were damaged, as well as the submarine's pipelines), and eleven crew members were injured. The submarine, on its own, on the surface, arrived at the base of the island of Guam.

We will remind, "Connecticut" - one of the nuclear submarines of the US Navy. These submarines were designed to hunt Soviet submarines in the deep waters of the world's oceans. At the same time, they have been modernized many times. But how did a state-of-the-art $ XNUMX billion submarine manage to crash into an underwater rock? Journalists talked about this with former US Navy submariner Brian Clarke. He spoke about the possible circumstances of such a collision.

Such cases are extremely rare.

Brian Clark, a retired submarine officer, veteran of the US Navy and military expert at the Hudson Institute, told interviewers.

According to him, the military always carefully plans all operations at sea, including studying the routes of the upcoming patrol. The bottom relief is studied in a special way.

According to Clarke, during the preparation of any launch of a warship at sea, it is provided with the most detailed maps of the water area along which the course is plotted. For submarines, the sequence of their actions, the depth of diving, is also scrupulously planned. In this case, the possible risks and the likelihood of encountering underwater objects, for example, with the same underwater rock or with a pile of cargo containers, must be taken into account. For obvious reasons, divers try to stay away from poorly explored areas of the water area. But sometimes there are unforeseen circumstances that force sailors to change plans. Also, as noted by a retired American submarine officer, gaps and inaccuracies in maps occur. And all this can lead to emergencies.

The South China Sea is a difficult area for submarine operations, because it is relatively shallow, and this increases both the risk of detection and destruction by the enemy, and the risk of collision with various submarine, so to speak, obstacles.

Making the life of the submariners even more difficult is that it is the maps of the South China Sea that, as it turns out, contain inaccuracies or incomplete data, the expert said.

If a submarine tries not to draw attention to itself and act unnoticed, then it will most likely stay at the very bottom and not use equipment with which divers could find, say, an underwater mine or a mountain. The use of active sonar instantly gives the boat position.

As Clarke notes, the divers probably had no idea that the same underwater rock could appear on their way.

Clark:

If you have something along your course that does not emit reflected noise, such as an underwater mountain (not irradiated by sonar), you will not know about it until you collide with an object. The crew could use an echo sounder to help establish the depth directly below the submarine. But if the obstacle is right on the course, the echo sounder does not give information.

According to Clark, such a mountain (rock) can suddenly grow in front of the submarine, and the echo sounder will not be able to warn of a possible collision with it. A retired US Navy officer noted that the problems faced by submarine crews often do not depend on the quality of the onboard equipment of these ships. Divers try to prevent such incidents, but working conditions in the water column do not always allow this to be achieved.

On October 2, the Connecticut nuclear submarine crashed into an underwater rock, according to an official report from the United States Naval Institute (USNI), and this mountain was absent as a marker on the maps of the area and in navigation systems. China continues to demand that the United States provide specific coordinates of the place where this happened. In this regard, the United States remains silent, stating only that no radiation leakage occurred during the incident in the South China Sea.
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  1. -5
    3 November 2021 17: 26
    With what speed did the boat really go to "cripple"? After all, it was not plywood, but at low speed the sonar, which had been blown away from the collision, would have "seen" the rock! !!!
    1. +14
      3 November 2021 17: 30
      Quote: Thrifty
      With what speed did the boat really go to "cripple"? After all, it was not plywood, but at low speed the sonar, which had been blown away from the collision, would have "seen" the rock! !!!

      At any speed of the submarine, the underwater rock (if the reason is really in it) remains a rock ... If they flew "like crazy", they could have stayed there at all
      1. -6
        3 November 2021 17: 51
        Alexey, at low speed they would have detected this rock with sonar. It means that either the sonar was faulty, or the operator on it was just a bird from the woodpecker family, or there was complete indifference, and the safe movement mode, taking into account the difficult terrain and shallow depths, was simply ignored ...
        1. +1
          3 November 2021 18: 16
          This means that either the sonar was faulty, or the operator on it was just a bird from the woodpecker family, or there was complete indifference, and the safe movement mode, taking into account the difficult terrain and shallow depths, was simply ignored.

          Yes, they crashed either into a submarine or into another vessel. The rock option is for the public.
        2. +4
          4 November 2021 04: 27
          Quote: Thrifty
          the mode of safe movement, taking into account the difficult terrain and shallow depths, was simply ignored.

          It was a Chinese lighthouse!
          The main issue here is not about sonars and modes; what did you do! in the South China Sea? It is for China, like the Black Sea was for the USSR.
          1. +2
            4 November 2021 21: 38
            What we have? The American submarine ran into a mysterious sandbank / rock and the Americans categorically refuse to name the place of the accident. What does it mean? Just what they got in restricted area! What they never do not recognize and do not make public the place of the accident!
          2. 0
            6 November 2021 16: 34
            In international waters, whatever!
      2. 0
        4 November 2021 07: 41
        Quote: Volodin
        Quote: Thrifty
        With what speed did the boat really go to "cripple"? After all, it was not plywood, but at low speed the sonar, which had been blown away from the collision, would have "seen" the rock! !!!

        At any speed of the submarine, the underwater rock (if the reason is really in it) remains a rock ... If they flew "like crazy", they could have stayed there at all

        Well, something like that happened, apparently.
    2. +12
      3 November 2021 18: 35
      China continues to demand that the United States provide specific coordinates of the place where this happened. The United States is silent about this,

      It's not clear why you need to keep silent about the rock? request
    3. 0
      3 November 2021 21: 51
      No, just in fact, the US nuclear submarine turned out to be blind balls, maybe the crew was still under consciousness-altering substances, it was now in vogue with their personnel.
    4. +4
      4 November 2021 00: 32
      The article says that sonar is not always turned on for a job that does not work, since it unmasks the boat.
      1. -2
        4 November 2021 18: 46
        But this is brilliant - there is no war with anyone, but we confidently go blind because we are afraid that we will be discovered because of the included sonar - Logic.
        1. +2
          4 November 2021 21: 44
          There is no war, there is no need to swim under water at all - Logic. :)
  2. +5
    3 November 2021 17: 46
    A retired US Navy submarine officer spoke about the possible circumstances of the collision of the Connecticut nuclear submarine with an underwater rock
    Can a Paganel medal be instituted? If yes, then I the founder winked lol ... I just have no money for this action. The times of great geographical discoveries are not over!
  3. +1
    3 November 2021 17: 49
    Again trulling and whistling on the topic ...
    Where is the photo of the damage? Where are the boat maneuvers and coordinates?
    1. +2
      3 November 2021 18: 11
      Quote: Serge-667
      Again trulling and whistling on the topic ...

      Yes, an empty whistle of a retirement.
      1. +3
        3 November 2021 18: 37
        Quote: Serge-667
        Again trulling and whistling on the topic ...

        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        Yes, an empty whistle of a retirement.

        Because the retiree has no responsibility.
        1. +3
          3 November 2021 19: 54
          Quote: Terenin
          Because the retiree has no responsibility.

          Well, the tongue can be pressed down with forceps, there in the USA it is easy and everyone is used to it
          In general, the South China Sea has become a kind of Bermuda triangular for the United States, which often they have such funny things there ... The Chinese are still entertainers and inventors and then they are always silent ..))))
          And the Amers are clearly hiding something, they are shy))))
          1. +3
            4 November 2021 03: 27
            But how did a state-of-the-art $ XNUMX billion submarine manage to crash into an underwater rock?

            I am not a submariner, and not a sailor, but ... the feeling is that submariners have been walking on maps, radar stations, detection stations, etc. for a long time.
            And suddenly the "blind" Americans ... belay A couple of years ago I read that out of twenty-five English instructors in the maintenance of nuclear ballistic missiles at APK-TWELVE used drugs, and nine of them "smoked" until the last moment .... THIS IS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS!
            1. +2
              4 November 2021 11: 59
              Quote: Cutter
              A couple of years ago I read that out of twenty-five English instructors in the maintenance of nuclear ballistic missiles at APK-TWELVE used drugs, and nine of them "smoked" until the last moment .... THIS IS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS

              A version worthy of discussion hi ..I also read takuyu old, only already in mines with nuclear weapons, where they constantly lost something and the smell of cannabis stood ..
  4. 0
    3 November 2021 18: 11
    If you have something along your course that does not emit reflected noise, such as an underwater mountain (not irradiated by sonar), you will not know about it until you collide with an object. The crew could use an echo sounder to help establish the depth directly below the submarine. But if the obstacle is right on the course, the echo sounder does not give information.

    I remembered the wonderful Soviet film "Listen in the Compartments" about the passage of our boat to the Bagryanaya Bay through an underwater crevice. I don’t think the film is not based on real events, and our sailors will have a better Faberge ... hi
    1. +3
      4 November 2021 00: 39
      You won't ask anymore. The film's director died on October 24, 2021 from the coronavirus.
      hi
      1. +3
        4 November 2021 12: 13
        Quote: Avior
        You won't ask anymore. The film's director died on October 24, 2021 from the coronavirus.
        hi

        Rest in peace to him and eternal memory hi The Stalinist generation of creators and builders is leaving, but the memory of them is forever in our souls and their creations.
        It seems that this covid is mowing down our elderly in order to quickly erase the memory of the Great Social State of the USSR!
        Some tiktoks and bloggers, prankers are now more alive than all living things negative .. They are not in danger, because, there is no soul or brain ..
        And the US nuclear submarine will now constantly collide with reefs, etc. Let the navigation be updated and not become impudent when cornering and overtaking
  5. +2
    3 November 2021 18: 16
    My personal assumptions our Amber (GUGI) is engaged in mapping the seabed, off the coast of a potential enemy. What kind of Internet cable, this is a side activity. These maps are expensive, like he was in the South China Sea during his trip around the world. I hope this rock and other surprises on the maps are with us marked.
  6. +10
    3 November 2021 18: 37
    And somewhere out there, in Kamchatka, in a solemn formation, the captain of the 1st rank of the Rock, Petr Ivanovich, was announced that he had been awarded the next military rank ...
    1. -6
      3 November 2021 19: 45
      ..and handing over a new cast-iron head
  7. +2
    3 November 2021 18: 44
    It is clear that the underwater object is called "Rock". But who knows how this "Rock" is spelled in Chinese? tongue
    1. +1
      3 November 2021 22: 50
      The crew of the "Rock" is presented to the Order of Kim Il Sung!
    2. +1
      4 November 2021 01: 51
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      It is clear that the underwater object is called "Rock"

      Rock. Very bad rock.
      1. +2
        4 November 2021 03: 47
        Hard Rock laughing Also say thank you. that Death Metal was not included
  8. +4
    3 November 2021 19: 00
    As Clarke notes, the divers probably had no idea that the same underwater rock could appear on their way.
    Come on, whistle! The most technologically advanced, the best crew, etc. - "If the mountain does not go to Mohammed, then Mohammed goes to the mountain" or vice versa.
    1. 0
      4 November 2021 03: 48
      Quote: Vladimir61
      "If the mountain does not go to Mohammed, then Mohammed goes to the mountain."

      Here - "teach the fool to pray to God. He will break his forehead."
  9. +5
    3 November 2021 20: 48
    somewhere, someone said that the Yusovites had the most accurate maps of the seas, but in nature, like in the film "Volga-Volga" ....- "this is the first!" laughing
  10. +3
    4 November 2021 01: 32
    Quote: Nikolay Sayenko
    somewhere, someone said that the Yusovites had the most accurate maps of the seas, but in nature, like in the film "Volga-Volga" ....- "this is the first!" laughing

    So there will be a second!
  11. +1
    4 November 2021 07: 39
    China continues to demand from the United States to provide specific coordinates of the place where this happened. In this regard, the United States is silent ...

    So there is something to hide. So we got somewhere in the Chinese "vegetable garden", which has its own surprises for such curious.
    And the clumsy excuse about the "rock" reminds Zadorny's anecdote about the Spanish lighthouse.
    1. 0
      4 November 2021 11: 12
      Well, God himself ordered them to demand. All the same, the nearest water area, a nuclear facility, and in general the sea is SOUTH CHINESE, not North American :)
  12. +1
    4 November 2021 12: 05
    Quote: Terenin
    China continues to demand that the United States provide specific coordinates of the place where this happened. The United States is silent about this,

    It's not clear why you need to keep silent about the rock? request

    And here I see the reason: the boat has lost part of the skin on this rock. If you tell the Chinese the exact location, they will look in the water area for parts of a secret coating that reduces acoustic signature (well, you never know what else could fall off). Even if they do not find or do not draw real conclusions, it is still a risk from the enemy's reconnaissance.

    Moreover, such messages create a precedent. So far, the Americans position themselves as tough cowboys who do not report and do not make excuses.
    And then they will tell you ... Maybe they will inform too much about patrol routes, combat missions of boats - therefore they will issue duty phrases until they stop talking about the incident in the world press.
  13. +1
    4 November 2021 17: 47
    What are they coming up with? Everyone knows that the boat crashed into a sperm whale, who dined and decided to rest. Let them say thank you that he did not bite the boat in half. Then there would be a shout that it was the Russians who put the atomic-powered scissors there.
  14. 0
    4 November 2021 19: 10
    OBS!
    And we are discussing here.
  15. 0
    5 November 2021 16: 16
    Since the captain of the new, top-secret Chinese nuclear submarine "Skala" did not get in touch for several days, the PRC began to demand the exact coordinates of the incident from the United States. But here's the thing: with all the desire, the United States will not be able to indicate the exact coordinates, because, as it turned out, the globe that they used as navigation equipment turned out to be inaccurate ...
  16. 0
    15 November 2021 01: 19
    Conspiracy, in which there is no smoke without fire.
    On October 2, the Connecticut nuclear submarine, as a result of the influence of a third force, was forced to interrupt the task of transporting nuclear devices and return to base. The situation should be viewed as a warning to the United States about the prohibition of the use and redeployment of nuclear potential. In anticipation of the possible use of nuclear weapons in the United States during the approaching civil war and the split of the United States of America, the normal solution would be to transfer nuclear weapons to storage in Russia, in which the control of the political leadership over the nuclear potential is secured.
    The situation is not something new, since since 1962 the use of nuclear weapons has been practically blocked by a third force, several times of inexplicable failure of equipment related to nuclear weapons have been recorded. The exception is the first, practically experimental use of nuclear weapons. Listen to more details in the video.