"There will be no growth in transit": Gazprom refused to buy out additional capacities of the Ukrainian GTS for the next year

Russian Gazprom does not intend to increase gas transit to Europe through the Ukrainian GTS in the next year, 2022. This follows from data provided by the Hungarian trading platform RBP.

According to available data, the Ukrainian company "GTS Operator of Ukraine" has put up for auction additional capacities for pumping gas through the Ukrainian gas transportation system for three quarters of 2022. In Kiev, Gazprom was offered to buy an additional volume of up to 9,8 million cubic meters. m per day through the Sudzha station and up to 5,2 million cubic meters of gas per day through the Sokhranovka station, but the Russian company ignored the offer.

Thus, Gazprom is still booking only the capacities it needs under a long-term contract with Ukraine for pumping 40 billion cubic meters of gas per year, i.e. approximately 109,5 million cubic meters per day.

According to the GSA Platform, the Russian company also refused to book additional capacities for pumping gas through Poland via the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline for the first three quarters of next year. Gas prices in Europe are kept at $ 800 per thousand cubic meters.

On the eve of Kiev, they complained that Moscow again reduced the transit of gas through the Ukrainian territory. According to the Ukrainian GTS Operator, since November 1, Gazprom has reduced pumping to 57 million cubic meters of gas per day, this is the second decrease in the volume of pumped gas in autumn, although the Russian company still pays for 109 million cubic meters per day. For the first time, Moscow has reduced the pumping rate since October 1, dropping it to 86 million cubic meters, now it has "dropped" to 57. At the same time, Gazprom is fulfilling its contractual obligations.

Comments

[rocket757]

"There will be no growth in transit": Gazprom refused to buy out additional capacities of the Ukrainian GTS for the next year

What is this, reports from the "front" ???
What do they want to assure or convince us of?
In the fact that one particular tower won at the top, and in this it will now go in the spirit of ... someone's wishes there?
And we will wait and see what happens in the end, what happens and how.

[Victor Tsenin]

Well, taking into account the realities, it would be great if the brand would hold, i.e. no additional volumes, coal and electricity.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Victor Tsenin

those. no additional volumes, coal and electricity.

We and Belarusians have already refused

[Victor Tsenin]

I know, so the key word is to keep your brand)
From Saratov?

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Victor Tsenin

From Saratov?

No. Mom comes from the Saratov region

[Vladimir Mashkov]

I don’t understand ... And what, now for the American "six" - the "Great Ukrainian" authorities of Ukraine - Russian gas is not despicable, harmful, smelly and aggressive? Are they already whining, asking?

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

Are they already whining, asking?

They call it "And we are for sho?"

[tralflot1832]

Good evening, like there in Kharkov. Like 40 km to Belgorod.

[tralflot1832]

I apologize !!!

[Vladimir Mashkov]

If you are for me, then it's okay. It happens.

[Ros 56]

So it's one thing to show off to punch and freeze your ass completely.

[VALERIK_097]

I agree with coal, but three days ago VO was already talking about concluding an agreement for the supply of 2 million MW (0,9 from Belarus and 1,1 from Russia) of electricity to Ukraine. for CHP. It's a bad situation however.

[Seryoga64]

Just yesterday I read in the News on VO that both we and the Belarusians refused with one wording, "We don't have enough ourselves."

[VALERIK_097]

https://youtu.be/HaXIlaPFEvs

[VALERIK_097]

Article on VO: Kiev: Russia stopped supplying thermal coal to Ukraine
October 29 2021

[VALERIK_097]

In short, there is an information war - I went to dig on the corporate websites, who did not sell what to whom))))

[27091965]

Quote: VALERIK_097

In short, there is an information war - I went to dig on the corporate websites, who did not sell what to whom))))

You can look at Bloomberg, they write that the US coal mining companies have already sold all of their planned coal production for 2022. Therefore, Russia's refusal to supply coal is quite logical. It will be difficult for Ukraine to find coal at an affordable price.

[bayard]

Quote: 27091965i

It will be difficult for Ukraine to find coal at an affordable price.

We have China disappearing without coal !!! It seems that even Donetsk coal went there.
They pay more.

[27091965]

Quote: bayard

We have China disappearing without coal !!! It seems that even Donetsk coal went there.
They pay more

You are right, but China is getting out of this situation, although winter has not yet arrived.

"....On Friday, the NDRC (National Development and Reform Commission of the People's Republic of China) reported that China's coal reserves rose to more than 100 million tons, up 25 million tons from the end of September, as the average daily supply recently exceeded consumption by 2 million tons. "October 29, 2021

[bayard]

China is not so naive as to calm it down. For winter is indeed coming.
Or do you think that after the incident Donbass will supply Ukraine with cheap coal?
You do not strain too much, time will tell who is right and what will be.

[210ox]

There, besides coal, there is a lot of interesting things that can be blocked. For example ammonia to Odessa.

[barin]

In short, boycott the Nazi regime

[Seryoga64]

Who is he and why should I believe him?

[210ox]

Today Belarus has started supplying electricity to Ukraine. There is a contract for emergency supplies.

[tralflot1832]

What happened in Ukraine in under the emergency assistance agreement Belarus will supply Ukraine with 500 megawatts within 7 hours. From 14 to 21 hours. What went wrong there?

[Seryoga64]

Quote: tralflot1832

What went off there?

I have no idea. I just heard from you

[tralflot1832]

The news has just slipped through, and the Avior won't tell you honestly.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: tralflot1832

The news has slipped through now

I didn't turn on the TV at all today.

[tralflot1832]

I have it covered with dust (TV), we turn it on only for New Year. Enough of the news.

[Seryoga64]

I usually watch the news, in the morning and in the evening

[tralflot1832]

Now at least I figured out the capacity, 500 megawatts in 7 hours from Belarus. So our 2200 megawatts purchased on October 27, Ukraine has already used up. Until the morning Ukraine has to do something, otherwise tomorrow they will again beg.

[Seryoga64]

The auction was still talked about yesterday. There it seems like ours and Belarusians together refused to participate in it.

, otherwise tomorrow they will again beg.

And they are no strangers. In the beginning they will throw mud at you, they beg for you

[tralflot1832]

Now I have also found a Belarusian confirmation of the refusal, but it is somehow muddy there, on November 4, 400 megawatts may be thrown out at the auction, I think the Balts will win with their euros.

[Seryoga64]

Yesterday it was kind of like Belarusians offered them e-mail not so long ago. energy. The Sumerians proudly refused, so they remembered

[svoroponov]

One of the units of the nuclear power plant has emergency shutdown

[Shket53]

Belarusians 500 MW. at Kiev's request for emergency energy assistance, they will be sold, a short-term agreement has already been signed between Kiev and Minsk on the provision of urgent energy assistance ... by the way, Kiev also turned to the Slovaks, i.e. Bratislava ... they did not think of a debt, they sent Kiev in the forest, they say they themselves do not have enough

[rocket757]

Quote: Victor Tsenin

Well, taking into account the realities, it would be great if the brand would hold, i.e. no additional volumes, coal and electricity.

On someone else's misfortune, you WILL NOT BUILD your own happiness !!!
This has never been done by anyone.

[1976AG]

That is, they consider us enemies, try to do nasty things wherever possible, and we have to give them food and drink?

[rocket757]

Do you cook and feed them? When, where, tell everyone ...

[1976AG]

Quote: rocket757

Do you cook and feed them? When, where, tell everyone ...

Is it not enough to supply energy carriers at prices below market prices? If you do not see this, buy from your friends with a fictional reverse and do not ask us to drop the price for you. And then shout that Russia is an enemy, Russian invaders, but as there is not enough electricity or gas, so immediately run to us. Isn't that enough?

[rocket757]

It's funny when they are puffing up, trying to prove something, like arguing about the taste of bananas with the one who ate them ...

[1976AG]

Well, don't be funny)

[rocket757]

I have already smiled, I will not chase you.

[1976AG]

You also ran ???

[rocket757]

Ha, ha ... "together" we are doing nonsense, lying on the couch, though.
Add your final word of victory and be done with that.

[mitroha]

It's so interesting to watch how the old account changes shoes,

[rocket757]

Who are you looking for, digger? Found a lot, already ...

[Alex Justice]

On someone else's misfortune, you WILL NOT BUILD your own happiness !!!
This has never been done by anyone.

America kills all rivals or chokes with sanctions and is happy.

[rocket757]

No problem. It remains to get over there and scoop up their happiness with a full spoon.
Everyone has a choice.

[Invoce]

Question: what do you mean?
There will be no transit - 100%! It was not in vain that the GDP stated that Russia did not undertake the obligation to support Ukraine. It meant that if we are in a state of "war" according to the odious Ukrainians, then there is no need to count on the fact that Russia will pay for the shelling of Donbass, supply diesel fuel for such armored personnel carriers fighting in Donbass, etc. Very soon there will be no Transit at all. There will be payment under the contract for guaranteed transit through an unclaimed pipe ... until 2024, and then ... time will tell

[WIKI]

Quote: Invoce

Very soon there will be no Transit at all.

Quote: Invoce

and then ... time will tell

[Kurare]

Quote: Invoce

There will be no transit - 100%!

There will just be a transit, but only in the volume as stated in the contract and not a single cm³ more! In economics, this is called the "Italian Strike".
PS: there was information that coal supplies from Russia are also canceled, and in the case of a request for the supply of electricity from Russia / Belarus, the answer will be the same! As in the song by Vysotsky "Hunt for wolves": "... they are driven cheerfully to the numbers."

[private person]

Very soon there will be no Transit at all.

The guarantor clearly said that transit will continue after 2024 HO, taking into account the volume of economic feasibility.

[carstorm 11]

It's even worse) Transit profitability is clear and specific figures. A pipe that, even with gunpowder, passed 70+ already now in fact pumps two times less. What happens to capacities that are not used?)

[hagen]

Quote: carstorm 11

What happens to capacities that are not used?)

From the Kursk region, two main lines enter Ukraine, one in three pipes 56,56 and 48 inches, the second - 48 and 56 inches. Some of this has already been stopped, something is in progress. Of the entire bouquet, one pipe will be left and the volume of pumping will be regulated by pressure. All business ... Over time, the COP will be taken apart by "cannibals", the unused power will come to a state of complete disrepair. And if they cannot keep gas in empty pipes, then they will simply rust and become suitable only for ferrous metal. The current state is somehow not announced by the current owners. Obviously afraid of total disgrace. With the current level of relations between Ukraine and Russia, there is hardly an investor who would risk investing in the modernization of this pipe. It's easier to build a new pipeline ... In addition to the above, there are several other trunk pipelines - Soyuz, Progress, etc. The situation is similar there.

[Alex Justice]

From the Kursk region, two main lines enter Ukraine, one in three pipes 56,56 and 48 inches, the second - 48 and 56 inches.

Even in Australia, only the metric system is used.

[hagen]

Quote: Alex Justice

Even in Australia, only the metric system is used.

It's just that such a map was at hand. I didn't bother with the translation, and it's so clear ...

[Alien From]

These guys will still remember the oblique wench with a kind word. Winter Is Coming.

[Victor Tsenin]

Not an argument at all, for all the years everything necessary has flowed like a river. I really hope that now, some understanding has changed and the way it was will no longer be.

[bar]

Quote: Invoce

There will be no transit - 100%! It was not in vain that the GDP stated that Russia did not undertake the obligation to support Ukraine.

Some kind of transit will remain all early. Not all gas buyers in Europe can get it through the north / south streams. Though the same Moldova with the PMR.

[Looking for]

Exactly so, these are reports from the front. The front of the "gas confrontation" And rest assured. These reports "hit the anti-Russian Kiev regime much more efficiently than the maneuvers of the Russian Armed Forces.

[Piramidon]

Quote: rocket757

What is this, reports from the "front" ???

How do you want? After all, according to these idiots, Russia is at war with Ukraine.

[rocket757]

Well, they don’t ... take a lot of care of their country, people, but they do a lot of defending the interes of a foreign, overseas owner ... they harm us. What's next?
Many harm us no less, hurt us, VERY PAINFUL ... and WHAT was done, how the villains were punished ???
If everything is CLEAR to you and to many others, then it is not clear and disgusting to me to look at all this.

[kytx]

Well, yes. these are the reports from the front
There is a "gas war"
Russian Federation represented by Gazprom unscrews handles for Ukraine and partners
And rightly so
They are there at G 20 are going to zero CO2050 emissions by 2
Who is this nonsense for?

[rocket757]

I don't care about Geyrop, absolutely ... there is only an enemy spirit hovering. They are even trying to turn the right thing to save our planet from pollution in their favor ... i.e. their commercial interests in the first line.
But they hope that by freezing the residents of the neighboring, former brotherly, what can be achieved ??? Brotherly love and respect? I doubt it very much.
The question, now, is much more difficult ... it cannot be solved by swoop!
Now I'm not only offended for the state, now it's worse, I'm ashamed that here, and in many other places, they will rejoice that this is happening ...

[Kurare]

At the same time, Gazprom is fulfilling its contractual obligations.

While in the summer in Ukraine "galloped", Gazprom pumped more than the average monthly level. Now that they have come to their senses and realized that there will not be enough gas, Gazprom has reduced pumping.
Most importantly, stealing (virtual reverse) will not work, since European recipients have counted everything to the last cm³.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Kurare

Most importantly, stealing (virtual reverse) will not work, since European recipients have counted everything to the last cm³.

Well, Duc, at current prices, more than $ 750 per 1000 m3 has to be counted, and then godfather, matchmaker, brother, companion, and they love money!

[tralflot1832]

In order for Gazprom to buy additional transit capacity from Ukraine, it needs to sell gas to someone in Europe, while Europe does not want to buy gas for $ 800 from Gazprom, it will buy it from its own.

[private person]

And Europe does not want to buy gas for $ 800 from Gazprom, it will buy from its own.

Who? And how much? For $ 1800? The same Russian gas but already from dealers.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

But really, who exactly are these OWN?

[tralflot1832]

Gazprom has only 40% of the European gas market. And most of all in the gain from gas prices Norway they do not have contractual gas like we do, they sold less than Gazprom, but have already stepped over $ 12 billion in profit.

[private person]

Norway they do not have contractual gas like we do, they sold less than Gazprom, but they have already stepped over $ 12 billion in profit.

That's the joke Gazprom enters into long-term contracts and has nothing from a jump in prices towards an increase in prices, and all the "snacks" have others. But on the other hand, they beat themselves in the chest, shouting that we are reliable suppliers.

[tralflot1832]

Yes, Gazprom is an honest supplier, but it is so attached to the European gas distribution system, with a good income.

[Looking for]

And you have a lot of "yours" then.?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: tralflot1832

In order for Gazprom to buy additional transit capacity from Ukraine, it needs to sell gas to someone in Europe.

What for? Ukraine has drawn up the contract in such a way that for additional gas volumes in excess of those stipulated in the contract, Gazprom will have to pay an increased transit tariff. Apparently, she strongly hoped that the SP-2 would not be completed and Russia would have to drive more gas in order to fulfill its obligations, and therefore Ukraine would chop up more babos. However, the dill did not grow together and outwitted themselves. Volumes have fallen, although Ukraine will receive exactly as much money as it would have received under the contract at 100% utilization. Ze offers a 50% discount not for contract transit, but for gas supplies in excess of the contract, but does Gazprom need it?

Quote: tralflot1832

And Europe does not want to buy gas for $ 800 from Gazprom, it will buy from its own.

It is as if Gazprom does not have a principled position, or not Gazprom. America bought LNG from Gazprom and transported it both to Europe and to its own market. Now Europe generally buys exchange gas, which has not even been produced yet, which suggests that this entire energy crisis is man-made and speculators are not making money very well. The question is which of the Europeans are in cahoots and milk Europe.

[tralflot1832]

As far as I know, Europe is ordering a gas delivery point from Gazprom, after November 8 we will see that there is such silence on the gas market.

[Vladyka Ecumenical]

I have not heard the finer news for a long time.

[prior]

If problems really start in Europe due to gas shortages, they will certify SP-2 on December 31, and December 32, and December 33, regardless of any Ukraine. These are the Europeans.
Their lace panties are much closer to the pope than the panties of the Ukrainians.

[kytx]

Excellent comrade!

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

***
Terrible thunderstorms raced
Victory came all round.
Wipe away the harsh tears
A sleeve pierced in battles.

Harsh years go
Fight for the freedom of the country!
Others come for them
They will be difficult too ...
***

[Piramidon]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

***
Terrible thunderstorms raced
Victory came all round.
Wipe away the harsh tears
A sleeve pierced in battles.

Harsh years go
Fight for the freedom of the country!
Others come for them
They will be difficult too ...
***

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

Harsh years go
Fight for the freedom of the country!
Others come for them
They will be difficult too ...

And then footage of a winter blizzard follows in a dark, de-energized city.

[Seryoga64]

On the eve in Kiev, they complained that Moscow again reduced gas transit through the Ukrainian territory.

Plus they refused to sell them coal.
It looks like the economic blockade has begun
By the way, the Belarusians also sent them by the forest

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Seryoga64

By the way, the Belarusians also sent them by the forest

So it seems like Lukashenka offered them "in Slavic" to help with EE, no?

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

So it seems like Lukashenka offered them "in Slavic" to help with EE, no?

Nooo, everything. After all, they also threw a lot of mean things to him

[boris epstein]

Maybe I would like to, but all the free capacities of the Ostrovets NPP were bought by Lithuania before Ukraine ...

[HAM]

Back in early October, I assumed that the Europeans would spit on "European solidarity" and start saving themselves, every man for himself ..... and so it turns out ... And how did the Lithuanians find fault with "authoritarian" electricity from Belarus ... and the same Moldavia, it's hot - they've grown wiser ...

[boris epstein]

And now Latvia and Estonia are complaining that they also want to buy electricity from Russia, but Lithuania intercepted it. Here is just a question for Estonians and Latvians: have they tried to buy electricity from the Leningrad and Pskov regions? After all, BRELL has not yet been turned off.

[HAM]

It turns out that Lithuania fooled all its "partners", together with Ukraine .... Labuses do not need competitors ....

[boris epstein]

A bit wrong. Latvia and Estonia could buy electricity directly from Russia from the Leningrad and Pskov regions through a single energy bridge Belarus-Russia-Estonia-Lithuania-Latvia. They wanted to cut off from this ring and get electricity from Europe. But it is long and expensive, another frequency (we have 50 hertz, in Europe - 60 hertz). We need to rebuild everything, build new high-voltage power lines. But Europe has halved the financing of the Balts. Now they are no longer up to the construction of power lines and not to the transition to supply from Europe. But they behave like Moldova before negotiations on gas. Well, the result will be the same. Gas for Moldova was 214, the contract was not renewed on time, now they will pay 450 and pay off debt for previous deliveries.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Boris Epstein

But it is long and expensive, another frequency (we have 50 hertz, in Europe - 60 hertz).

Austria ------------- 230V 50Hz
Albania ------------ 220V 50Hz
Belarus ----------- 230 V (formerly 220 V) 50 Hz
Belgium ------------- 230V 50Hz
Bulgaria ----------- 230 V 50 Hz
Bosnia -------------- 220V 50Hz
UK - 230V 50Hz
Hungary ------------- 230 V (formerly 220 V) 50 Hz
Germany ---------- 230V (formerly 220V) 50Hz
Greece -------------- 230V (formerly 220V) 50Hz
Denmark --------------- 230V 50Hz
Israel ------------ 230V 50Hz
Iceland ---------- 230V 50Hz
Cyprus ----------------- 240V 50Hz
DPRK ---------------- 220V 50Hz
Latvia -------------- 230 V (formerly 220 V) 50 Hz
Lithuania ---------------- 230 V (formerly 220 V) 50 Hz
Romania ----------- 230 V (formerly 220 V) 50 Hz
Serbia ------------- 230 V (formerly 220 V) 50 Hz
Syria --------------- 220V 50Hz
Slovakia ---------- 230 V 50 Hz
Slovenia --------- 230 V 50 Hz
Turkey ------------- 230V 50Hz
France ---------- 230V (formerly 220V) 50Hz
Czech Republic -------------- 230V 50Hz
........................
etc.

Worldwide, mostly 50 Hz. This is in America 60 Hz and countries where her influence was great

[kytx]

It's nice to see a person in the subject
I'm not a security officer. I am weak.
But at least I'll grab the top

[bairat]

Hertz are the same, but there must still be synchronization of the sinusoid. Consider a half shift of the wave as short.

[kytx]

Yes, with a break, finally the drawing is going on. Instead of a sinusoid at the output of the bp, a square wave of irregular shape.
And nothing like that. Works!

And now the power supply is mainly 230-250V
Abroad more with local hemorrhagic outlets

[rocket757]

With alternating current, another snag, PHASE SYNCHRONIZATION !!! Here and there 50 Hz, but without synchronization in any way.
Those. connect two non-synchronized networks, really get a big badabum
There used to be synchronization stations on the border with Finland, we sold electricity to them ...

[moscowp]

It was supposed to start when the water and electricity were cut off to the Crimea. Didn't start then, won't start now

[Seryoga64]

Quote: moscowp

Didn't start then, won't start now

Already started
In the delivery of e-mail energy was denied, coal was denied, well, it is the same with gas

[moscowp]

We will see…

[Seryoga64]

Quote: moscowp

We will see…

Well, of course. Time will show

[tralflot1832]

Found today, if the hryvnia is converted into rubles, 1 kW / h costs 9,2 rubles, but it is not clear for production or for the population. I would not say that it is expensive.

[Avior]

Since October 1, the price of electricity in Ukraine for the majority of the population has dropped significantly and for 1 kWh is 1,44 UAH, which is 3,9 rubles.

[tralflot1832]

What kind of office is this "Market Operator" she gave yesterday such a price for November 1, 3,4 grams per kilowatt hour. Your price is for October 1.

[purple]

This is Avior .. a famous dreamer, he has a paradise in Ukraine ... not like the damned Muscovites

[tralflot1832]

We are damned Muscovites, we can easily check his words, but we do not turn on cards !!!

[Brturin]

Alexey, the question is that a communal apartment is not one e / en. And the question is with her - that is, if less than 250 kW. per month then it became cheaper, but if you already pay 251 in full (and if you are not lucky and there is an electric stove in the house) - this time, secondly - there are still three tariffs left - gas, mountains. water and heating ... it's kind of modest about them ... (chuch a little lower one when the others bite ...) ... and now try to turn on some heater and the whole discount ...

[AML]

It seems to you that it has become cheaper. Take a calculator and it turns out that the price has risen by 17 kopecks. It seems a little, but a pretty penny to a pretty penny.

[Avior]

Give a link, we will read your version

[Brturin]

In Ukraine, prices for heating, hot water and electricity will change .... From October 1, 2021, heating tariffs in Ukraine will increase by up to 40%, depending on the locality. This is stated in the decree of the Cabinet of Ministers No. 859 of August 11, 2021.

You brought the power supply, what about the rest ...

[Avior]

What they wrote about, then I brought
In fact, it turned out that electricity for the overwhelming majority of the population is two times cheaper than the above price, and moreover, it turned out that it is cheaper than in many Russian cities.
And the tariff for it dropped right at the moment when, according to the views of some of the VO readers, everything there freezes and falls apart.
I see that some of the audience from these numbers is not sausage minuses ...
Let's not interfere, people still have shock and cognitive dissonance.

[Avior]

I do not know what you are writing about and where you got it. Give me a link
Here are the official data, they are as I wrote
https://index.minfin.com.ua/tariff/electric/
Electricity for the population has really fallen in price since October 1 in Ukraine, and at least until spring

the validity period of these tariffs is set until 30.04.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX.

Further revision is possible.
I understand that the information that electricity in Ukraine has become cheaper for the population does not fit into the stories that it will freeze in and fall apart, but the reality is as it is, what can you do

[Nastia makarova]

about 9 rubles now costs

[Avior]

Give a link, we will read, where for the population for 9 rubles

[Nastia makarova]

in the Krasnodar Territory is 5.88 in the afternoon

[Avior]

In Ukraine, electricity is cheaper - 3,9 rubles for the majority of the population.
It's not entirely clear what for 9 rubles?

[Nastia makarova]

1.68 gr is 4,5 rubles and it was more expensive

[Avior]

with a consumption of up to 250 kilowatts, the price in Ukraine fell to 1,44 hryvnia (3,8-3,9 rubles). that's 80 percent of the population.
1,68 left for consumption over 250 kilowatts

[Nastia makarova]

It’s very strange that it’s cheaper, energy resources have risen in price, coal and gas and electricity have decreased, again from the budget, lardy Akhmetov was paid

[Avior]

fell in price from October 1, at least until spring
Gas for the population is also fixed in price until the spring of next year, it has not risen in price

[Nastia makarova]

that's very strange when everyone gets more expensive

[Nastia makarova]

gas in Ukraine 9 gr or 27 rubles

[Avior]

for gas yes, you are right, (not 27, but 24 rubles,) but we discussed electricity

[Looking for]

you do not advertise the agitation of the Ukrainian ministries. but the real accounts of ordinary citizens.

[Avior]

The real bill of ordinary citizens is the price of one kilowatt - hour multiplied by the number of kilowatt-hours of electricity consumption.

[Avior]

These disadvantages to a post with numbers, which are easily verified in five minutes, clearly show how many people are on the thread who have fallen out of reality and do not want to return to it. It's sad what to say ...

[Looking for]

".. the ice has moved. gentlemen of the jury!"

[Andrey Moskvin]

Seryoga.
You have already written that both we and Belarusians refused them. Why are you duplicating?

[tralflot1832]

And I know where the electricity will be, in the Odessa region it is looped to the Transnistrian state district power station.

[Avior]

I'm afraid you misunderstand the word "loopback"
http://tren.info-tec.com.ua/index_ru.html
There will be no problems from Pridnestrovka GRES just because the power system is looped back

[tihonmarine]

On the eve in Kiev, they complained that Moscow again reduced gas transit through the Ukrainian territory.

... right here
KIEV, November 2 - RIA Novosti. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy approved a new package of sanctions against Russia - for organizing elections to the State Duma in Crimea. The corresponding decrees are published on the website of the head of state.
"To put into effect the decision of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine dated October 15, 2021" On the application of personal special economic and other restrictive measures. "

Well, what kind of gas, and what kind of business you can do with such "businessmen" from the leper colony.

[_TANKIST_]

Well, the price of gas or oil has no effect on the well-being of ordinary Russians, it affects the wallets of citizens with dual citizenship))) 0! ((((

[Tavi]

Enforcement to the implementation of the Minsk agreements.

[Cowbra]

Yes, they at the same time refused Polish transit, and - in general

In addition, Gazprom did not book the capacity of the Polish section of the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline for the first quarter of 2022. The auction offered 89 million cubic meters per day.
The company's long-term contract with Warsaw Gas expired last year, and for the 2020-2021 gas year, the company booked capacity through an auction. For the current gas year, the company also did not buy the capacity in advance.

RIA)

[tralflot1832]

Whoever makes a fool of whom, it turns out that Europe does not need our gas, since Gazprom refuses to use its capacities. If they do not want to buy, then Europe needs gas so much.

[Cowbra]

Out Caesar, out nihil
Which in translation from the ancient antique means - came-ate ... Uvi-idel ... SP-2
"They fought for the Motherland", as it is now fashionable to say, a remake

[purple]

Quote: Avior

https://index.minfin.com.ua/tariff/electric/

Well, chota rzhu .... chtoli so promote your site ??? Well, there is not such a large audience ... but I understand of course ... 10 ruble old ladies ... how is it in Ukrainian

[yfast]

Quote: Avior

Since October 1, the price of electricity in Ukraine for the majority of the population has dropped significantly and for 1 kWh is 1,44 UAH, which is 3,9 rubles.

Is this the price including shipping? Then we in Ukraine are ready to buy electricity.

[Rusticolus]

Is this the price including shipping?

Not, very likely that this is the cost of delivery only. And only in Ukraine itself, and even then not everywhere. And the energy itself is at a different rate. Which is by no means declining. And why should he decline? The chieftain has no money. The only hope is for Polish toilets.

[Avior]

this is the retail price for the population

[agoran]

Tex, to summarize:
- coal supplies from the Russian Federation have been discontinued
- there will be no electricity supplies from the Russian Federation
- gas transit will be reduced
-RZD stopped working with 404.
Next, what will happen?
Full embargo, border closure, visa regime, expulsion of diplomats.
The Sumerians really got the GDP.

[kytx]

Sumerians seem to get everyone, even their bosses

[mitroha]

Quote: Avior

how many people on the branch who have fallen out of reality and do not want to return to it. It's sad what to say ...

How do you behave ...

[Avior]

here you are on the list

how many people on the branch who have fallen out of reality and do not want to return to it. It's sad what to say ...

[mitroha]

That is, do not consider the option that you are outside of reality, since you have such a large list there?

[Avior]

I gave objective verifiable facts.

[AML]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

It’s very strange that it’s cheaper, energy resources have risen in price, coal and gas and electricity have decreased, again from the budget, lardy Akhmetov was paid

This is because they take a separate household in a vacuum. But if you turn to the real state, then an ass. Electricity, heating and gas prices have been increased for companies. Therefore, everything will rise in price automatically. No one will bake bread at a loss.

[AML]

Quote: tralflot1832

Whoever makes a fool of whom, it turns out that Europe does not need our gas, since Gazprom refuses to use its capacities. If they do not want to buy, then Europe needs gas so much.

It turns out that Ukraine has already tired everyone.